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M0Foe
01/02/18 1:45:26 PM
#101:


pinky0926 posted...
She's right, though.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2017

TL;DR - Dunkirk is the only live-action film in the top 25 worldwide box office of 2017 to be originalnot an adaptation, remake or sequel.

How does this relate to superhero movies? Just keep rehashing the same old material. Give it a sequel, another sequel, a prequel, then a reboot, then introduce another side character and repeat again ad infinitum.

Superhero movies have taken over the box office. Outside of indie hipster theatres, Going to the cinemas these days is an exercise in choosing whether you want to see a marvel movie or a disney one.


dunkirk isn't original it's a remake of something that happened v ~v;
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Gamer99z
01/02/18 1:48:10 PM
#103:


M0Foe posted...
pinky0926 posted...
She's right, though.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2017

TL;DR - Dunkirk is the only live-action film in the top 25 worldwide box office of 2017 to be originalnot an adaptation, remake or sequel.

How does this relate to superhero movies? Just keep rehashing the same old material. Give it a sequel, another sequel, a prequel, then a reboot, then introduce another side character and repeat again ad infinitum.

Superhero movies have taken over the box office. Outside of indie hipster theatres, Going to the cinemas these days is an exercise in choosing whether you want to see a marvel movie or a disney one.


dunkirk isn't original it's a remake of something that happened v ~v;

Legit lol'd.
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Seitar
01/02/18 1:55:51 PM
#104:


refmon posted...
You know shes right when people hold MCU movies in a higher regard than popcorn flicks

Aren't stuff like MCU and X-Men the epitome of popcorn flicks?
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thanosibe
01/02/18 1:56:24 PM
#105:


M0Foe posted...
pinky0926 posted...
She's right, though.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2017

TL;DR - Dunkirk is the only live-action film in the top 25 worldwide box office of 2017 to be originalnot an adaptation, remake or sequel.

How does this relate to superhero movies? Just keep rehashing the same old material. Give it a sequel, another sequel, a prequel, then a reboot, then introduce another side character and repeat again ad infinitum.

Superhero movies have taken over the box office. Outside of indie hipster theatres, Going to the cinemas these days is an exercise in choosing whether you want to see a marvel movie or a disney one.


dunkirk isn't original it's a remake of something that happened v ~v;
This is either the greatest troll post ever or the greatest example of naivety.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/02/18 1:56:46 PM
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hyperpowder
01/02/18 2:01:25 PM
#107:


I knew this back when The Dark Knight reached top 10 in IMDBs top 250. People have awful taste in movies, and over hype average superhero movies.
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Santo3485
01/02/18 2:01:58 PM
#108:


drunkmuggle posted...
she's not wrong

This. Shes right. However Logan proved that you can indeed make thought provoking superhero movies, we just dont get enough movies like Logan.
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Veggeta_MAX
01/02/18 2:04:08 PM
#109:


The first Iron Man was written really well dunno whachall smoking
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RchHomieQuanChi
01/02/18 2:13:03 PM
#110:


Asherlee10 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
She's smug, but what she said is probably very accurate.


super hero movies are not wrecking the earth like fracking lol


I don't think she meant in a literal sense, at least that how I read it.

I read it as superhero movies (which could be any genre of movie that's just around to turn out profit) are damaging the movie-going environment like fracking is damaging the planet. It could be an irreversible setback.

I also love a lot of superhero movies, but I think her point is also that studios seem to value absurdly high profits over a combination of profits + good storytelling.


See, this would be a fair point but most of the superhero films coming out nowadays clearly have time, effort and passion put into them.
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Cleo_II
01/02/18 2:14:45 PM
#111:


drunkmuggle posted...
she's not wrong
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MangaFan462
01/02/18 2:14:55 PM
#112:


Shows and indie content is where the real money is right now.
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Jaded_Dragon
01/02/18 2:16:26 PM
#113:


Nah dawg. I don't like comicbook movies, they are garbage, so no one else should be able to like or enjoy them. You are a garbage tier human being if seeing childhood characters you loved on the big screen does it for you.

-2000's logic
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thanosibe
01/02/18 2:19:16 PM
#114:


GordonFreeGin posted...
thanosibe posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
thanosibe posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
She's smug, but what she said is probably very accurate.


super hero movies are not wrecking the earth like fracking lol


I don't think she meant in a literal sense, at least that how I read it.

I read it as superhero movies (which could be any genre of movie that's just around to turn out profit) are damaging the movie-going environment like fracking is damaging the planet. It could be an irreversible setback.

I also love a lot of superhero movies, but I think her point is also that studios seem to value absurdly high profits over a combination of profits + good storytelling.
Despite her astute point, it's also naive to think studios will do anything but produce films that make a profit. I may not care for the way superhero movies portray the characters I grew up reading, but I also don't expect Marvel to stop making movies if they are making massive profits.

I agree with her point. But I laugh at her expecting anything less than more and more superhero movies for as long as they profit Marvel/Disney.


I agree.

I just wish the major studios would figure out how to produce more good storytelling + profits. I think, in part, it relies on the marketing efforts too.
It also relies on the viewers' demands. Yeah sure it's easier to throw together Deadpool (my son just watch it this weekend, as I couldn't sit through more than five minutes at a time) with lines like "shit speckled muppet fart" than it is to come up with intelligent dialogue. But if the easy stuff is in demand, despite it's quality, then it's never going to stop. Much like McDonald's.

How old is your son? If he's just a babby, you should not have let him watch deadpool.

Also, deadpool is one of the few superhero movies grounded in a real story, regardless of how you feel about hookers.
He's 14. If he's seen the Alien films and Predator films and play Mature rated games (including Deadpool) I figured he could handle the movie without me having seen it.
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 2:24:12 PM
#116:


Shes so wrong its Not even funny. There was 6 super hero movies last year...

Every other genre had triple that amount.

Shes made because no one wants to see a movie with her old ugly **** in it
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 2:24:51 PM
#117:


@Cleo_II posted...
@drunkmuggle posted...
she's not wrong


There was SIX movies last year.

Shes wrong
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dave_is_slick
01/02/18 2:26:14 PM
#118:


thanosibe posted...
pinky0926 posted...
R0ttedHorror posted...
Shes right. Fuck even spielberg said this shit was happening back in like 2012. Yall are delusional if you dont think superhero and other franchises have oversaturrated the hollywood market. Everyone is tired of that dumb ass shit.


Seriously, fucking Antman.

I like Paul Rudd but Antman.
Can't be worse than the little bit of Deadpool I saw this weekend. Can it?!?

Deadpool is fucking hilarious dude.
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dave_is_slick
01/02/18 2:32:43 PM
#119:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
She's smug, but what she said is probably very accurate.


super hero movies are not wrecking the earth like fracking lol


I don't think she meant in a literal sense, at least that how I read it.

I read it as superhero movies (which could be any genre of movie that's just around to turn out profit) are damaging the movie-going environment like fracking is damaging the planet. It could be an irreversible setback.

I also love a lot of superhero movies, but I think her point is also that studios seem to value absurdly high profits over a combination of profits + good storytelling.


See, this would be a fair point but most of the superhero films coming out nowadays clearly have time, effort and passion put into them.

This too. Take out the Marvel things and Winter Soldier was clearly a political thriller first.
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 2:35:54 PM
#120:


Kain Dragoon posted...
literally joined that POS movie Elysium. She has no room to talk

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dave_is_slick
01/02/18 2:46:06 PM
#122:


Asherlee10 posted...
I'm not sure that they clearly have a lot of time, effort, and passion put into them.

Meaning..?
Because if they didn't, the MCU would've crashed and burned long ago. Infinity War wouldn't have the potential to be one of the biggest movies of all time.
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 2:46:31 PM
#123:


Asherlee10 posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
She's smug, but what she said is probably very accurate.


super hero movies are not wrecking the earth like fracking lol


I don't think she meant in a literal sense, at least that how I read it.

I read it as superhero movies (which could be any genre of movie that's just around to turn out profit) are damaging the movie-going environment like fracking is damaging the planet. It could be an irreversible setback.

I also love a lot of superhero movies, but I think her point is also that studios seem to value absurdly high profits over a combination of profits + good storytelling.


See, this would be a fair point but most of the superhero films coming out nowadays clearly have time, effort and passion put into them.


I'm not sure that they clearly have a lot of time, effort, and passion put into them. Some might, but it kind of the same old story retold a lot of times. And I don't think that all superhero movies should go away, but we have a serious problem of oversaturation right now.


@Asherlee10
So six movies in a year is oversaturation ? Lol

And no its def not the same old retold a lot of times..i mean using that ignorant logic you can say that about every romantic movie, every horror, & every action movie
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PostCrisisJ2
01/02/18 2:49:12 PM
#124:


thanosibe posted...
M0Foe posted...
pinky0926 posted...
She's right, though.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2017

TL;DR - Dunkirk is the only live-action film in the top 25 worldwide box office of 2017 to be originalnot an adaptation, remake or sequel.

How does this relate to superhero movies? Just keep rehashing the same old material. Give it a sequel, another sequel, a prequel, then a reboot, then introduce another side character and repeat again ad infinitum.

Superhero movies have taken over the box office. Outside of indie hipster theatres, Going to the cinemas these days is an exercise in choosing whether you want to see a marvel movie or a disney one.


dunkirk isn't original it's a remake of something that happened v ~v;
This is either the greatest troll post ever or the greatest example of naivety.


They be a troll, yo. They mostly post on the Politics board as a Trump fangirl, but lately they've just been sort of posting as an incoherent one.
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 2:52:36 PM
#125:


PostCrisisJ2 posted...
thanosibe posted...
M0Foe posted...
pinky0926 posted...
She's right, though.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2017

TL;DR - Dunkirk is the only live-action film in the top 25 worldwide box office of 2017 to be originalnot an adaptation, remake or sequel.

How does this relate to superhero movies? Just keep rehashing the same old material. Give it a sequel, another sequel, a prequel, then a reboot, then introduce another side character and repeat again ad infinitum.

Superhero movies have taken over the box office. Outside of indie hipster theatres, Going to the cinemas these days is an exercise in choosing whether you want to see a marvel movie or a disney one.


dunkirk isn't original it's a remake of something that happened v ~v;
This is either the greatest troll post ever or the greatest example of naivety.


They be a troll, yo. They mostly post on the Politics board as a Trump fangirl, but lately they've just been sort of posting as an incoherent one.


It was an obvious joke (i hope)
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dave_is_slick
01/02/18 2:55:11 PM
#127:


Asherlee10 posted...
Are you saying we are currently not oversatured with superhero movies in the box office the last several years?

I'm definitely saying it.
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thanosibe
01/02/18 2:56:39 PM
#128:


KingCrabCake posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
She's smug, but what she said is probably very accurate.


super hero movies are not wrecking the earth like fracking lol


I don't think she meant in a literal sense, at least that how I read it.

I read it as superhero movies (which could be any genre of movie that's just around to turn out profit) are damaging the movie-going environment like fracking is damaging the planet. It could be an irreversible setback.

I also love a lot of superhero movies, but I think her point is also that studios seem to value absurdly high profits over a combination of profits + good storytelling.


See, this would be a fair point but most of the superhero films coming out nowadays clearly have time, effort and passion put into them.


I'm not sure that they clearly have a lot of time, effort, and passion put into them. Some might, but it kind of the same old story retold a lot of times. And I don't think that all superhero movies should go away, but we have a serious problem of oversaturation right now.


@Asherlee10
So six movies in a year is oversaturation ? Lol

And no its def not the same old retold a lot of times..i mean using that ignorant logic you can say that about every romantic movie, every horror, & every action movie


This thing with Thanos in the MCU movies=Infinity Gauntlet (1991)
Avengers 2 Ultron Story=Avengers 54-58 (1968)
X-Men 2=God Loves Man Kills 1982
Punisher (2004)=Welcome Back Frank (2001)

There are definitely rehashing old story lines in some of the movies. Those that excel and are better, to me, seem to be the ones that take character(s) and tell a new story. Or at least the story is loosely based enough that it is it's own; like the first two Thor movies. That incorporate aspects of the comics but still make it their own. (I'd geek out to see Mangog in Thor on screen.)
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Balrog0
01/02/18 3:00:04 PM
#129:


pinky0926 posted...
Even going by the most basic opinion someone could have that ain't true. Of the top 50 here only 3 are superhero movies.

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003501243/

Look how many great movies on that list, and that's just the last 7 years.

By and large - excepting a few standout entries - superhero movies are like the background noise on mainstream radio. Most people find it enjoyable but few really love them by and large.


also, a lot of those that aren't super hero movies are sequels or remakes

so it seems to kind of cut against your argument that super hero movies are especially bad at this, or that they set the stage for the industry... But series like Fast and the Furious were already deep into their long, drawn out franchises by the time Marvel came around in film. Even the whole remake schtick reaches farther back than super hero movies -- remember Freaky Friday, Dawn of the Dead, even Charlie's Angels all had remakes back in the early 2000s

Overall I would say there are some legitimate points she makes, but they have nothing to do with super hero movies and much more to do with, like, globalization and monopsony power, consumer interest in film as entertainment and the attendant rise of Netflix/Redbox and other complicated economic reasons rather than the fact that companies are especially greedy or lazy or that consumers are especially boorish or whatever
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 3:00:42 PM
#131:


Asherlee10 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
She's smug, but what she said is probably very accurate.


super hero movies are not wrecking the earth like fracking lol


I don't think she meant in a literal sense, at least that how I read it.

I read it as superhero movies (which could be any genre of movie that's just around to turn out profit) are damaging the movie-going environment like fracking is damaging the planet. It could be an irreversible setback.

I also love a lot of superhero movies, but I think her point is also that studios seem to value absurdly high profits over a combination of profits + good storytelling.


See, this would be a fair point but most of the superhero films coming out nowadays clearly have time, effort and passion put into them.


I'm not sure that they clearly have a lot of time, effort, and passion put into them. Some might, but it kind of the same old story retold a lot of times. And I don't think that all superhero movies should go away, but we have a serious problem of oversaturation right now.


@Asherlee10
So six movies in a year is oversaturation ? Lol

And no its def not the same old retold a lot of times..i mean using that ignorant logic you can say that about every romantic movie, every horror, & every action movie


Are you saying we are currently not oversatured with superhero movies in the box office the last several years?


Compared to every other genre hell no.

Again 6 movies last year...six!

How many movies came out last year? A couple hundred? Lets just go with a nice round number of 600 movies released in the USA (There was 736 released in 2016) that means for every 100 films released there was ONE superhero movie...

Hardly oversaturation
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EverDownward
01/02/18 3:00:58 PM
#132:


drunkmuggle posted...
she's not wrong

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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 3:03:08 PM
#133:


Asherlee10 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Are you saying we are currently not oversatured with superhero movies in the box office the last several years?

I'm definitely saying it.


Look at the last 10 years here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_Marvel_Comics and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_DC_Comics

Also lol at this statement from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_superhero_films#DC_and_Marvel

As so many DC and Marvel comic books have been adapted into feature films, they have separate entries:


In the last 10 years how many action movies did we get? How many horror movies did we get? How many scifi movies? How many romantic movie? How about romantic comedies?

No when compared with other genres we are not getting over saturated at all
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 3:06:17 PM
#136:


Asherlee10 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Compared to every other genre hell no.

Again 6 movies last year...six!

How many movies came out last year? A couple hundred? Lets just go with a nice round number of 600 movies released in the USA (There was 736 released in 2016) that means for every 100 films released there was ONE superhero movie...

Hardly oversaturation


I think that's quite a bit coming out for major blockbuster films from 2 cinematic universes (Marvel and DC). And it isn't just superhero movies that's the problem. It's as pinky wrote too. It's remakes, reboots, sequels, etc.

Superhero films just seem to be the largest culprit.


Its actually 3. Fox. Marvel. Dc.

So no still wrong. 1 out of 100 movies isnt too much at all. Jodie is just an old woman who is mad no one wants to see any of her shitty drama movies
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 3:06:58 PM
#137:


Asherlee10 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Are you saying we are currently not oversatured with superhero movies in the box office the last several years?

I'm definitely saying it.


Look at the last 10 years here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_Marvel_Comics and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_DC_Comics

Also lol at this statement from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_superhero_films#DC_and_Marvel

As so many DC and Marvel comic books have been adapted into feature films, they have separate entries:


In the last 10 years how many action movies did we get? How many horror movies did we get? How many scifi movies? How many romantic movie? How about romantic comedies?

No when compared with other genres we are not getting over saturated at all


A superhero film is an action film. It's a subgenre that we are getting too much of right now. I'm not complaining about the genres of films. I'm complaining about specific subgenres and oversaturation.


She singled out superhero movies...not action movies

So again factually wrong.
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Knowledge_King
01/02/18 3:13:47 PM
#140:


pinky0926 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Those superhero movies have been the only good movies in like...forever. So she's wrong.


Even going by the most basic opinion someone could have that ain't true. Of the top 50 here only 3 are superhero movies.

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003501243/

Look how many great movies on that list, and that's just the last 7 years.

By and large - excepting a few standout entries - superhero movies are like the background noise on mainstream radio. Most people find it enjoyable but few really love them by and large.


I see like 2 great movies that aren't superhero movies.

Inception and...Social Network? Other than that, there's a bunch of OK to Good movies like Hidden Figures, Wolf of Wall Street, Skyfall, Argo, and Toy Story 3.

All the actual great ones are Superhero movies.

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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 3:13:56 PM
#141:


Asherlee10 posted...


At any given time there are multiple superhero films at the theater near me. I cannot say about any other subgenre. Further, most of the films in the theater at any given time are as pinky mentioned, remakes, reboots, sequels. This is the overall problem that we are experiencing in cinema.

For example, we literally have 12 X-Men movies in recent years. 12.


Again compared to any other genre they barely scratch the surface. So nope..factually wrong
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 3:15:18 PM
#142:


Asherlee10 posted...


I'm not Jodie Foster. I'm talking about what I think.


Okay and just like the old hag...you're also wrong
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ThanksUglyGod
01/02/18 3:16:12 PM
#143:


I'm so glad I make enough money to see more than one type of movie :)
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Butterfiles
01/02/18 3:18:02 PM
#144:


we're literally on our third spiderman franchise since 2002 and yall wanna ssay that isn't oversaturation
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MrBobGray
01/02/18 3:18:28 PM
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If movies were only made for the director to feel accomplished or self assured Hollywood would be even more of a shit show.
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KingCrabCake
01/02/18 3:21:30 PM
#146:


Butterfiles posted...
we're literally on our third spiderman franchise since 2002 and yall wanna ssay that isn't oversaturation


And how many fast n furious movies? Lol

How many scary movies?

How many SAWs?

Lmfao

Guys 6 movies in 1 year is too much...

Heres two dozen shitty horror flicks tho
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Veggeta_MAX
01/02/18 3:23:12 PM
#147:


Exactly I already said exclusively calling out Super Hero movies is not fair at all.
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PiOverlord
01/02/18 3:24:26 PM
#149:


Don't like it, don't watch it. Stop being pretentious when millions are loving movies more than ever.
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thanosibe
01/02/18 3:24:35 PM
#150:


Butterfiles posted...
we're literally on our third spiderman franchise since 2002 and yall wanna ssay that isn't oversaturation
This is the worst thing about superhero films. Which is also the worst thing about comics; retroactive continuity.
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