Poll of the Day > Swatting finally claimed a life

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MannerSaurus 12/29/17 6:12:08 PM #52:	Krazy_Kirby posted... OmegaTomHank posted... Livingston declined to comment on what triggered the officer to open fire and would not say whether Finch was armed. Hmm Well isnt that convenient. convenient that they want an investigation to decide, not public opinion. "The FBI finished investigating the FBI and found they did no wrong doing and are innocent." Oh, thank God. That's a relief. Let's go buy some ice cream. --- Ever since the day you left, my fate's been set unknown... How many years to walk this path alone? [...] So why'd you close your eyes... why can't I shut mine? <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:893085092] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaTomHank posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Livingston declined to comment on what triggered the officer to open fire and would not say whether Finch was armed.</quote> Hmm Well isnt that convenient.</quote> convenient that they want an investigation to decide, not public opinion.</quote> "The FBI finished investigating the FBI and found they did no wrong doing and are innocent." Oh, thank God. That's a relief. Let's go buy some ice cream.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 12/29/17 6:15:59 PM #53:	MannerSaurus posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... OmegaTomHank posted... Livingston declined to comment on what triggered the officer to open fire and would not say whether Finch was armed. Hmm Well isnt that convenient. convenient that they want an investigation to decide, not public opinion. "The FBI finished investigating the FBI and found they did no wrong doing and are innocent." Oh, thank God. That's a relief. Let's go buy some ice cream. yeah, because the fbi is one group, they dont have internal affairs or anything. they clearly all look the other way... "by the way, i was being sarcastic" --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:893085281] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaTomHank posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Livingston declined to comment on what triggered the officer to open fire and would not say whether Finch was armed.</quote> Hmm Well isnt that convenient.</quote> convenient that they want an investigation to decide, not public opinion.</quote> "The FBI finished investigating the FBI and found they did no wrong doing and are innocent." Oh, thank God. That's a relief. Let's go buy some ice cream.</quote> yeah, because the fbi is one group, they dont have internal affairs or anything. they clearly all look the other way... "by the way, i was being sarcastic"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkKirby2500 12/29/17 6:16:41 PM #54:	Mead posted... DarkKirby2500 posted... Mead posted... DarkKirby2500 posted... Why is swatting even possible? Police are supposed to need a warrant to enter your house, they're not allowed break in because someone accused you of something over the phone. If they have explicit reason to believe people are in danger they can legally enter a home to try and save them, which they should be able to do. In pretty much every case of swatting they broke into someone's ordinary house and arrested them based on an accusation made over the phone alone, I hardly call that explicit evidence that someone was in immediate danger or that anything suspicious was going on. Well it is evidence all the same regardless of your opinion. It just happens to be falsified evidence. Eyewitness testimony is generally regarded as the least reliable of any form of evidence, that said, if any accusation from anyone over the phone alone is regarded as an acceptable and sufficient reason for police to break and enter into someone's house when there is no evidence of wrongdoing at the scene and perform an armed arrest without an explanation than you basically don't have privacy rights and warrants are meaningless. --- The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. They're all complacent sheeple. Passion fights, but reason wins. <cite>DarkKirby2500 posted [p:893085318] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkKirby2500 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkKirby2500 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is swatting even possible? Police are supposed to need a warrant to enter your house, they're not allowed break in because someone accused you of something over the phone.</quote> If they have explicit reason to believe people are in danger they can legally enter a home to try and save them, which they should be able to do.</quote> In pretty much every case of swatting they broke into someone's ordinary house and arrested them based on an accusation made over the phone alone, I hardly call that explicit evidence that someone was in immediate danger or that anything suspicious was going on.</quote> Well it is evidence all the same regardless of your opinion. It just happens to be falsified evidence.</quote> Eyewitness testimony is generally regarded as the least reliable of any form of evidence, that said, if any accusation from anyone over the phone alone is regarded as an acceptable and sufficient reason for police to break and enter into someone's house when there is no evidence of wrongdoing at the scene and perform an armed arrest without an explanation than you basically don't have privacy rights and warrants are meaningless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/29/17 6:46:44 PM #55:	I'm the last to excuse the cops, but my theory is that when he opened the door, the cops were twitchy cause in the story it says they thought he had killed his dad and was holding his mom, sister and brother hostage. and they expected him to be armed. and I bet he made some kind of movement while standing in the doorway wondering what was going on, that the cops mistook for reaching for a gun. <cite>Zikten posted [p:893086854] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>I'm the last to excuse the cops, but my theory is that when he opened the door, the cops were twitchy cause in the story it says they thought he had killed his dad and was holding his mom, sister and brother hostage. and they expected him to be armed. and I bet he made some kind of movement while standing in the doorway wondering what was going on, that the cops mistook for reaching for a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 12/29/17 6:57:52 PM #56:	Zikten posted... I'm the last to excuse the cops, but my theory is that when he opened the door, the cops were twitchy cause in the story it says they thought he had killed his dad and was holding his mom, sister and brother hostage. and they expected him to be armed. and I bet he made some kind of movement while standing in the doorway wondering what was going on, that the cops mistook for reaching for a gun. I'm sure they thought he was extremely dangerous, which is why the guy who actually killed him should only get a few years of jail, not a life sentence / death penalty. But that's still inexcusable. There are plenty of situations that have nothing to do w/ swatting where an innocent person could be getting raided by the SWAT team. There have been cases where they simply got the wrong address. Not a malicious lie, but a simple error/mistake. We DO NOT WANT cops opening fire on sight of a suspect. Allowing it guarantees tragedies like this will needlessly happen. They should focus on taking cover first, and give at least a moment to assess the situation when there isn't a clear and obvious threat. They act like not immediately opening fire is akin to standing in the middle of the street w/ gun holstered politely waiting for the suspect to shoot them first. That's ridiculous, there's a sensible middle ground where they focus on being out of the potential line of fire and even training their guns on the suspect WITHOUT shooting the first fucking chance they get. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:893087473] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I'm the last to excuse the cops, but my theory is that when he opened the door, the cops were twitchy cause in the story it says they thought he had killed his dad and was holding his mom, sister and brother hostage. and they expected him to be armed. and I bet he made some kind of movement while standing in the doorway wondering what was going on, that the cops mistook for reaching for a gun.</quote> I'm sure they thought he was extremely dangerous, which is why the guy who actually killed him should only get a few years of jail, not a life sentence / death penalty. But that's still inexcusable. There are plenty of situations that have nothing to do w/ swatting where an innocent person could be getting raided by the SWAT team. There have been cases where they simply got the wrong address. Not a malicious lie, but a simple error/mistake. We DO NOT WANT cops opening fire on sight of a suspect. Allowing it guarantees tragedies like this will needlessly happen. They should focus on taking cover first, and give at least a moment to assess the situation when there isn't a clear and obvious threat. They act like not immediately opening fire is akin to standing in the middle of the street w/ gun holstered politely waiting for the suspect to shoot them first. That's ridiculous, there's a sensible middle ground where they focus on being out of the potential line of fire and even training their guns on the suspect WITHOUT shooting the first fucking chance they get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 7:00:20 PM #57:	Locke90 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Locke90 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Zikten posted... swat showed up at a 3rd guy's house and killed him when he opened the door Crack down on unprovoked police killings? I'd hope so. except this killing was provoked by the aforementioned idiots. the police are totally blameless. They shot an innocent guy for opening his door, they had no evidence the person at the door was even who was swatted, even on a real call a house can be occupied by more than one guy. They shot an innocent man who did nothing to warrant a violent response, and this was by officers who are meant to be actually trained on trigger discipline. considering the amount of idiots in this world who commit heinous acts against their fellow citizens even in the us where it seems that criminals are in an increasingly rampant arms race do you seriously blame the cops for shooting this poor bloke I certainly dont I blame the 2 idiots who made the false call. Yes, I can and do absolutely blame them. They took the job specifically to intercept violent criminals, they have been trained to deal with them, to not shoot civilians, and they're armored so if they're shot trying to save innocent people, they don't die too. If they shoot a guy for answering a door, they're obviously not suited for the job and were wildly negligent of their few responsibilities. Zikten posted... I'm the last to excuse the cops, but my theory is that when he opened the door, the cops were twitchy cause in the story it says they thought he had killed his dad and was holding his mom, sister and brother hostage. and they expected him to be armed. What kind of kindnapper answers the door? And who snap shoots at the start of a hostage situation? This is literally their job, they weren't civilians pulling vigilantism, they were specially trained professionals. Zikten posted... and I bet he made some kind of movement while standing in the doorway wondering what was going on, that the cops mistook for reaching for a gun. You know people have to move to physically open a door, right? Twitchy POS aren't remotely competent to work as SWAT and all that does is expand blame to the entire SWAT force for allowing this danger to society near a gun, let alone in a high stress situation. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893087611] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Locke90 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Locke90 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>swat showed up at a 3rd guy's house and killed him when he opened the door</quote> Crack down on unprovoked police killings? I'd hope so.</quote> except this killing was provoked by the aforementioned idiots. the police are totally blameless.</quote> They shot an innocent guy for opening his door, they had no evidence the person at the door was even who was swatted, even on a real call a house can be occupied by more than one guy. They shot an innocent man who did nothing to warrant a violent response, and this was by officers who are meant to be actually trained on trigger discipline.</quote> considering the amount of idiots in this world who commit heinous acts against their fellow citizens even in the us where it seems that criminals are in an increasingly rampant arms race do you seriously blame the cops for shooting this poor bloke I certainly dont I blame the 2 idiots who made the false call.</quote> Yes, I can and do absolutely blame them. They took the job specifically to intercept violent criminals, they have been trained to deal with them, to not shoot civilians, and they're armored so if they're shot trying to save innocent people, they don't die too. If they shoot a guy for answering a door, they're obviously not suited for the job and were wildly negligent of their few responsibilities. <cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I'm the last to excuse the cops, but my theory is that when he opened the door, the cops were twitchy cause in the story it says they thought he had killed his dad and was holding his mom, sister and brother hostage. and they expected him to be armed. </quote> What kind of kindnapper answers the door? And who snap shoots at the start of a hostage situation? This is literally their job, they weren't civilians pulling vigilantism, they were specially trained professionals. <cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>and I bet he made some kind of movement while standing in the doorway wondering what was going on, that the cops mistook for reaching for a gun.</quote> You know people have to move to physically open a door, right? Twitchy POS aren't remotely competent to work as SWAT and all that does is expand blame to the entire SWAT force for allowing this danger to society near a gun, let alone in a high stress situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 12/29/17 7:04:45 PM #58:	I like how the article blames gaming instead. "If shooter games lead to real-life death, its time to hit pause" <cite>dioxxys posted [p:893087842] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>I like how the article blames gaming instead. "If shooter games lead to real-life death, its time to hit pause"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 12/29/17 7:06:47 PM #59:	Smarkil posted... I too distrust the government. That's why I don't drink the water. I don't want to turn into a gay frog. lol <cite>dioxxys posted [p:893087966] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>I too distrust the government. That's why I don't drink the water. I don't want to turn into a gay frog.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 12/29/17 7:10:06 PM #60:	dioxxys posted... I like how the article blames gaming instead. "If shooter games lead to real-life death, its time to hit pause" That's a link to a different article on the same site related to this incident. But yeah, I saw that and it filled me w/ rage. The swatting thing has nothing to do w/ gaming. Some bastard can decide he wants to lie to law enforcement in order to use them as a tool to to terrorize and grievously injure you for any number of perceived slights, whether from gaming, road rage, office politics, boundary disputes w/ the neighbor, etc... <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:893088146] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote>I like how the article blames gaming instead. "If shooter games lead to real-life death, its time to hit pause"</quote> That's a link to a different article on the same site related to this incident. But yeah, I saw that and it filled me w/ rage. The swatting thing has nothing to do w/ gaming. Some bastard can decide he wants to lie to law enforcement in order to use them as a tool to to terrorize and grievously injure you for any number of perceived slights, whether from gaming, road rage, office politics, boundary disputes w/ the neighbor, etc...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joemodda 12/29/17 7:11:09 PM #61:	Well... now that I think about it, a "prank" like this was bound to go horribly wrong. All I need is a random address, some creativity, and a plausible scenario to provoke the police into doing a lot of harm for no good reason. Doubt anything can be done about it as well. --- Whatever the cost, whatever the effort! <cite>joemodda posted [p:893088197] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>Well... now that I think about it, a "prank" like this was bound to go horribly wrong. All I need is a random address, some creativity, and a plausible scenario to provoke the police into doing a lot of harm for no good reason. Doubt anything can be done about it as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/29/17 9:17:34 PM #62:	MannerSaurus posted... The guy that called should be tried for life in prison. The cop shot the guy for no reason too though. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:893094827] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>The guy that called should be tried for life in prison.</quote> The cop shot the guy for no reason too though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/29/17 9:23:24 PM #63:	"Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893095107] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>"Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 9:27:51 PM #64:	wwinterj25 posted... "Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised. For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893095320] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>"Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised.</quote> For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 12/29/17 9:28:13 PM #65:	wwinterj25 posted... "Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised. I'm also not surprised that the police claim that an unarmed man they mistakenly shot was "reaching for" an area a gun may be kept. It's called "cover your ass" and they do that shit all the time when they shoot someone they shouldn't have. Was the victim actually making such a motion? Don't know, but I for damn sure don't trust the police's statement, considering all the times such statements have been disproven by video evidence later on. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:893095337] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>"Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised.</quote> I'm also not surprised that the police claim that an unarmed man they mistakenly shot was "reaching for" an area a gun may be kept. It's called "cover your ass" and they do that shit all the time when they shoot someone they shouldn't have. Was the victim actually making such a motion? Don't know, but I for damn sure don't trust the police's statement, considering all the times such statements have been disproven by video evidence later on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rjsilverthorn 12/29/17 9:32:25 PM #67:	rjsilverthorn posted... "The person behind the account has claimed credit for a number of swatting hoaxes and other threats including one that led to the evacuation of the Dallas Convention Center earlier this month, a bomb threat at a Florida high school in November and the threat that caused the FCC to pause its net neutrality vote a couple of weeks ago." https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/29/alleged-swatting-hoax-death-father-of-two/ Also: "They also said, "Bomb threats are more fun and cooler than swats in my opinion and I should have just stuck to that. But I began making $ doing some swat requests." The person also noted that the thrill of such hoaxes "comes from having to hide from police via net connections." <cite>rjsilverthorn posted [p:893095558] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>rjsilverthorn posted...</cite> <quote>"The person behind the account has claimed credit for a number of swatting hoaxes and other threats including one that led to the evacuation of the Dallas Convention Center earlier this month, a bomb threat at a Florida high school in November and the threat that caused the FCC to pause its net neutrality vote a couple of weeks ago." https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/29/alleged-swatting-hoax-death-father-of-two/</quote> Also: "They also said, "Bomb threats are more fun and cooler than swats in my opinion and I should have just stuck to that. But I began making $ doing some swat requests." The person also noted that the thrill of such hoaxes "comes from having to hide from police via net connections."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 9:34:07 PM #68:	rjsilverthorn posted... I began making $ doing some swat requests Next level POS --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893095648] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>rjsilverthorn posted...</cite> <quote>I began making $ doing some swat requests</quote> Next level POS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 12/29/17 9:43:33 PM #69:	Kyuubi4269 posted... wwinterj25 posted... "Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised. For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm. If I'm holding someone at gun point that was breaking into my house or car, I will warn him to keep his hands above his head and visible at all times. If he makes a sudden movement towards his pockets or waistband, I will be firing into his chest until he stops. This is literally what I was taught in all self defense and tactical courses, including by cops in my town. If there is a gun pointed at you by a citizen or a cop, you don't do something stupid like reach for your waist band where tons of people carry a gun. I will warn them ahead of time that I'm going to shoot if they reach for their pockets. But I'm not going to risk me or my family being harmed because you suddenly got cocky and went for a gun. Your hand suddenly darts, my finger starts squeezing. Period. --- Ever since the day you left, my fate's been set unknown... How many years to walk this path alone? [...] So why'd you close your eyes... why can't I shut mine? <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:893096137] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>"Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later." Not surprised.</quote> For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm.</quote> If I'm holding someone at gun point that was breaking into my house or car, I will warn him to keep his hands above his head and visible at all times. If he makes a sudden movement towards his pockets or waistband, I will be firing into his chest until he stops. This is literally what I was taught in all self defense and tactical courses, including by cops in my town. If there is a gun pointed at you by a citizen or a cop, you don't do something stupid like reach for your waist band where tons of people carry a gun. I will warn them ahead of time that I'm going to shoot if they reach for their pockets. But I'm not going to risk me or my family being harmed because you suddenly got cocky and went for a gun. Your hand suddenly darts, my finger starts squeezing. Period.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 9:49:02 PM #70:	MannerSaurus posted... Your hand suddenly darts, my finger starts squeezing. Period. When people bust through your front door with guns pointed at you screaming in your face, somehow I doubt you'll dawdle putting your hands in the air. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893096431] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Your hand suddenly darts, my finger starts squeezing. Period.</quote> When people bust through your front door with guns pointed at you screaming in your face, somehow I doubt you'll dawdle putting your hands in the air.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/29/17 9:53:44 PM #71:	Kyuubi4269 posted... For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm. ... and the guy could have just done what he was told. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893096666] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm.</quote> ... and the guy could have just done what he was told.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 9:56:01 PM #72:	wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm. ... and the guy could have just done what he was told. Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893096770] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>For context, your hands typically rest below your waistband. He also had a gun already aimed, he could've waited a touch longer to see his non-existent firearm.</quote> ... and the guy could have just done what he was told.</quote> Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/29/17 10:00:07 PM #73:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband. Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893096964] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband.</quote> Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkynyrdRocker 12/29/17 10:00:36 PM #74:	wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband. Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't. You deal with yourself fine though <cite>SkynyrdRocker posted [p:893096992] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband.</quote> Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't.</quote> You deal with yourself fine though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/29/17 10:04:12 PM #75:	Not enough whit. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893097191] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>Not enough whit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 10:09:33 PM #76:	wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband. Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't. Every other false swatting incident doesn't end in death. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893097496] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Which is why I mentioned hand positioning. When you raise your hands from rest, you inherently reach at and past your waistband.</quote> Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't.</quote> Every other false swatting incident doesn't end in death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/29/17 10:13:48 PM #77:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Every other false swatting incident doesn't end in death. Perhaps but this one did for reasons already said. Up to you what conclusion you come up with. I'm just going on the only information we have. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893097721] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Every other false swatting incident doesn't end in death.</quote> Perhaps but this one did for reasons already said. Up to you what conclusion you come up with. I'm just going on the only information we have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 10:18:19 PM #78:	wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Every other false swatting incident doesn't end in death. Perhaps but this one did for reasons already said. Up to you what conclusion you come up with. I'm just going on the only information we have. If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893097948] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Every other false swatting incident doesn't end in death.</quote> Perhaps but this one did for reasons already said. Up to you what conclusion you come up with. I'm just going on the only information we have.</quote> If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 12/29/17 10:22:26 PM #79:	Dude was clearly trying to reach for a non-existent firearm to murder an entire swat team. Or the cop fucked up and is trying to cover his ass. <cite>Blighboy posted [p:893098145] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>Dude was clearly trying to reach for a non-existent firearm to murder an entire swat team. Or the cop fucked up and is trying to cover his ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/29/17 10:24:33 PM #80:	Kyuubi4269 posted... If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned. "He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893098266] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned.</quote> "He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 10:25:51 PM #81:	wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned. "He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess. Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893098336] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned.</quote> "He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess.</quote> Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/29/17 10:27:49 PM #82:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not. Nah only conspiracy theories on PotD should decide that. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893098427] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not.</quote> Nah only conspiracy theories on PotD should decide that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/29/17 10:35:16 PM #83:	wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not. Nah only conspiracy theories on PotD should decide that. Ya, it's a conspiracy that 'murican cops statistically kill over a thousand people a year and do an awful lot of violent and negligent actions every week. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893098796] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not.</quote> Nah only conspiracy theories on PotD should decide that.</quote> Ya, it's a conspiracy that 'murican cops statistically kill over a thousand people a year and do an awful lot of violent and negligent actions every week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/29/17 10:59:48 PM #84:	Swatting doesnt kill people Police kill people --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:893099950] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>Swatting doesnt kill people Police kill people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 12/29/17 11:01:05 PM #85:	Kyuubi4269 posted... wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned. "He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess. Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not. yeah, because all cops just look the other way when the shooting isn't justified... --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:893100005] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>If we took the killer and their allies' word on murder charges, none would be imprisoned.</quote> "He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess.</quote> Note "internal". I wish my group could decide if I commited crimes or not.</quote> yeah, because all cops just look the other way when the shooting isn't justified...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomak-54 12/29/17 11:27:24 PM #86:	What happened to the cop? What happened to the prank caller? I saw the video and it was legit sick --- Mele Kalikimaka is the thing to say on a bright Hawaiian Christmas day http://i.imgur.com/rNCkhGc.gif http://i.imgur.com/BRGmYpZ.gif <cite>Nomak-54 posted [p:893101066] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>What happened to the cop? What happened to the prank caller? I saw the video and it was legit sick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/29/17 11:29:57 PM #87:	Nomak-54 posted... What happened to the cop? What happened to the prank caller? I saw the video and it was legit sick I have not watched the video only read about the incident. the cop is on leave, like with every shooting. the prank caller is still free and shit talking on twitter this is supposedly him https://twitter.com/GoredTutor36 <cite>Zikten posted [p:893101173] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomak-54 posted...</cite> <quote>What happened to the cop? What happened to the prank caller? I saw the video and it was legit sick</quote> I have not watched the video only read about the incident. the cop is on leave, like with every shooting. the prank caller is still free and shit talking on twitter this is supposedly him https://twitter.com/GoredTutor36</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 12/29/17 11:43:35 PM #88:	OmegaTomHank posted... https://www.infowars.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4 --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNrfHP9W0AAQK_s.jpg:large <cite>Yellow posted [p:893101781] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaTomHank posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.infowars.com</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ferarri619 12/30/17 12:10:15 AM #89:	I've been more hesitant to game online this generation because of stuff like this. When I was an avid XBL gamer back in the early-mid 2000s, I saw how heated the hate speech and threats could get, and back then I had no doubt many people on there would cause serious harm had they met IRL, and definitely had the mental capacity to. Now they actually have the resources to act on them, which I find kind of terrifying. --- ~Nintendo 64. Get N or Get out. Coming Fall 1996~ <cite>Ferarri619 posted [p:893102969] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>I've been more hesitant to game online this generation because of stuff like this. When I was an avid XBL gamer back in the early-mid 2000s, I saw how heated the hate speech and threats could get, and back then I had no doubt many people on there would cause serious harm had they met IRL, and definitely had the mental capacity to. Now they actually have the resources to act on them, which I find kind of terrifying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/30/17 3:21:19 AM #90:	wwinterj25 posted... Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't. That's an oxymoron. wwinterj25 posted... "He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess. Absolutely nothing since they always get off anyway. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:893109321] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah I get the impression he wasn't doing what he was told so got shot for it. Sucks this situation happened at all but the cop isn't to blame. The hoax call and guy being dumb is. I feel bad for cops having to deal with stupid people. I know I couldn't.</quote> That's an oxymoron. <cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>"He has been placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation." Depends what this investigation brings up I guess.</quote> Absolutely nothing since they always get off anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil69Leo 12/30/17 3:29:08 AM #91:	OmegaDunce moar like. <cite>Lil69Leo posted [p:893109506] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>OmegaDunce moar like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 12/30/17 3:41:59 AM #92:	Mead posted... DarkKirby2500 posted... Why is swatting even possible? Police are supposed to need a warrant to enter your house, they're not allowed break in because someone accused you of something over the phone. If they have explicit reason to believe people are in danger they can legally enter a home to try and save them, which they should be able to do. Disagree <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:893109831] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkKirby2500 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is swatting even possible? Police are supposed to need a warrant to enter your house, they're not allowed break in because someone accused you of something over the phone.</quote> If they have explicit reason to believe people are in danger they can legally enter a home to try and save them, which they should be able to do.</quote> Disagree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/30/17 3:42:03 AM #93:	Hadn't somebody else been killed after a swatting prank? I didn't think this was the first one. Ferarri619 posted... I've been more hesitant to game online this generation because of stuff like this. When I was an avid XBL gamer back in the early-mid 2000s, I saw how heated the hate speech and threats could get, and back then I had no doubt many people on there would cause serious harm had they met IRL, and definitely had the mental capacity to. Now they actually have the resources to act on them, which I find kind of terrifying. Not really. They have to actually know where you live first and, in this case, the target deliberately provided a fake address. In general, you should maintain anonymity online. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:893109833] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>Hadn't somebody else been killed after a swatting prank? I didn't think this was the first one. <cite>Ferarri619 posted...</cite> <quote>I've been more hesitant to game online this generation because of stuff like this. When I was an avid XBL gamer back in the early-mid 2000s, I saw how heated the hate speech and threats could get, and back then I had no doubt many people on there would cause serious harm had they met IRL, and definitely had the mental capacity to. Now they actually have the resources to act on them, which I find kind of terrifying.</quote> Not really. They have to actually know where you live first and, in this case, the target deliberately provided a fake address. In general, you should maintain anonymity online.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LOLIAmAnAlt 12/30/17 3:55:52 AM #94:	Smarkil posted... Why the fuck are people still swatting? What kind of a fucking idiot do you have to be to do something like that? Could be kids that have just learned of it but not the aftermath details. Still should be prosecuted. --- lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll <cite>LOLIAmAnAlt posted [p:893110124] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Why the fuck are people still swatting? What kind of a fucking idiot do you have to be to do something like that?</quote> Could be kids that have just learned of it but not the aftermath details. Still should be prosecuted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LOLIAmAnAlt 12/30/17 3:57:17 AM #95:	Ferarri619 posted... I've been more hesitant to game online this generation because of stuff like this. When I was an avid XBL gamer back in the early-mid 2000s, I saw how heated the hate speech and threats could get, and back then I had no doubt many people on there would cause serious harm had they met IRL, and definitely had the mental capacity to. Now they actually have the resources to act on them, which I find kind of terrifying. Well if this article is anything. It does not matter if you game online or not. --- lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll <cite>LOLIAmAnAlt posted [p:893110151] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ferarri619 posted...</cite> <quote>I've been more hesitant to game online this generation because of stuff like this. When I was an avid XBL gamer back in the early-mid 2000s, I saw how heated the hate speech and threats could get, and back then I had no doubt many people on there would cause serious harm had they met IRL, and definitely had the mental capacity to. Now they actually have the resources to act on them, which I find kind of terrifying.</quote> Well if this article is anything. It does not matter if you game online or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 12/30/17 4:10:09 AM #96:	People need to chill out over video games I used to play online games, when people would get really pissed off and call me a "fucking f****" or something like that, I'd just agree with them, because they've already made a complete ass out of themselves at that point. I wish I still had a Hearthstone conversation. Some guy was really mad, so he friended me to chat. He told me I only won because I was lucky, and I was agreeing with him, but he was just so pissed off that he just kept raging at me, and then unfriended me. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNrfHP9W0AAQK_s.jpg:large <cite>Yellow posted [p:893110401] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>People need to chill out over video games I used to play online games, when people would get really pissed off and call me a "fucking f****" or something like that, I'd just agree with them, because they've already made a complete ass out of themselves at that point. I wish I still had a Hearthstone conversation. Some guy was really mad, so he friended me to chat. He told me I only won because I was lucky, and I was agreeing with him, but he was just so pissed off that he just kept raging at me, and then unfriended me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 12/30/17 4:32:15 AM #97:	those two should be publicly executed --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:893110800] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>those two should be publicly executed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoreRpgs 12/30/17 7:21:16 AM #98:	Execute them <cite>MoreRpgs posted [p:893113674] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>Execute them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/30/17 8:11:56 AM #99:	911 caller found and arrested http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/mobile/id6899 --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:893114584] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote>911 caller found and arrested http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/mobile/id6899</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 12/30/17 8:44:39 AM #100:	Mead posted... 911 caller found and arrested http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/mobile/id6899 The dumbass agreed to an online interview, admitted to making multiple false emergency calls, and thought he wouldn't be tracked down? Good fucking grief. Looking more like the police department will be able to defer to this Einstein as the ultimate blame for their misfire, which is unfortunate. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:893115350] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>911 caller found and arrested http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/mobile/id6899</quote> The dumbass agreed to an online interview, admitted to making multiple false emergency calls, and thought he wouldn't be tracked down? Good fucking grief. Looking more like the police department will be able to defer to this Einstein as the ultimate blame for their misfire, which is unfortunate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/30/17 9:12:02 AM #101:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Ya, it's a conspiracy that 'murican cops statistically kill over a thousand people a year and do an awful lot of violent and negligent actions every week. So this must mean all cops are automatically mass murderess right? My bad. Revelation34 posted... That's an oxymoron. shrugs Mead posted... 911 caller found and arrested http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/mobile/id6899 Yikes. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893116044] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Ya, it's a conspiracy that 'murican cops statistically kill over a thousand people a year and do an awful lot of violent and negligent actions every week.</quote> So this must mean all cops are automatically mass murderess right? My bad. <cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>That's an oxymoron.</quote> shrugs <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>911 caller found and arrested http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/mobile/id6899</quote> Yikes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/30/17 9:17:06 AM #102:	wwinterj25 posted... So this must mean all cops are automatically mass murderers right? My bad. Like I said, every other swatting incident *doesn't* end up with people getting killed. This one officer fucked up. The issue is that incompetent and malicious cops get protected by the society they joined. The police force has no good reason to let his actions effect the reputation of the police force further, particularly when they killed the only witness. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:893116160] in Swatting f... [t:76148827]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>So this must mean all cops are automatically mass murderers right? My bad. </quote> Like I said, every other swatting incident doesn't end up with people getting killed. This one officer fucked up. The issue is that incompetent and malicious cops get protected by the society they joined. The police force has no good reason to let his actions effect the reputation of the police force further, particularly when they killed the only witness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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