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yutterh
12/23/17 8:05:24 PM
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That if we find aliens GOD doesn't exist. Because they aren't in the bible.....now I am a Christian but I honestly feel Christians put way too much focus on the bible. Yeah it is an important text and it shows how GOD used to interact with us and ways people have dealt with him. Sure some stuff may be a little metaphorical but it isn't the end all be all. I feel people put the bible above GOD himself sometimes. Like they worship a book and not GOD.

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Lokarin
12/23/17 8:06:37 PM
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Remind this mindcuck that even if God is completely real and legit, that the Bible was likely written by self-serving priests looking to alter the stories slightly to give them the most power possible.

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minervo
12/23/17 8:11:20 PM
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yutterh posted...
That if we find aliens GOD doesn't exist. Because they aren't in the bible.....now I am a Christian but I honestly feel Christians put way too much focus on the bible. Yeah it is an important text and it shows how GOD used to interact with us and ways people have dealt with him. Sure some stuff may be a little metaphorical but it isn't the end all be all. I feel people put the bible above GOD himself sometimes. Like they worship a book and not GOD.

/endrant

The bible is the word of God. How can one get to know God if not through his word?

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
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Lokarin
12/23/17 8:25:19 PM
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Ya, according to John - who could be a fraud
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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/23/17 8:25:38 PM
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Your friend's god is too small. There are a lot of things which have already been discovered that were not in the bible. Yet people continue to believe.
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NightShift
12/23/17 8:27:54 PM
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whos god? wich god? what makes your god more real than anothers god? the evidence for them are equal in credibility. some of you belive in the same god but in different ways but claim the other is false. - an Alien probably
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yutterh
12/23/17 8:48:02 PM
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minervo posted...
yutterh posted...
That if we find aliens GOD doesn't exist. Because they aren't in the bible.....now I am a Christian but I honestly feel Christians put way too much focus on the bible. Yeah it is an important text and it shows how GOD used to interact with us and ways people have dealt with him. Sure some stuff may be a little metaphorical but it isn't the end all be all. I feel people put the bible above GOD himself sometimes. Like they worship a book and not GOD.

/endrant

The bible is the word of God. How can one get to know God if not through his word?

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."


Yes true, but GOD didn't put down every single detail about everything. So just because GOD didn't have us write down that aliens on other planets exist, doesn't mean that GOD doesn't exist. He just chose not to tell us. The notion that if GOD went against something in the bible or decided against something (like the rapture) people like my friend would consider GOD not real. Which is just silly to me. GOD is above all and GOD can choose to go a different course when he wants too. Just like how no christian follows the mosaic law.

Of course the bible shows how GOD interacted with others and how he explains things. You get a glimpse of GOD's character and personality. When i read the bible, you can feel GOD's shift of temperament and how he has come to see us. How he interacts with us. GOD is ever changing. But of course others won't agree with this because when people think of something perfect, they think it just stays the same. But i argue that GOD is perfect because he changes his ways, because he cares and loves us, and has come to understand his creation in a amazing way. Yes GOD is omnipotent but GOD lives in the now and GOD always has the final word.

The bible is his word but he is able to override it at anytime. He can always make a new covenant. My point is that people see the bible as set in stone, when it has much more meaning and purpose then taking everything literal and too the T no matter what. GOD is more then just words and I feel people really miss out on this fact, since they seem to worship the bible more then GOD.
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minervo
12/23/17 8:50:08 PM
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NightShift posted...
whos god? wich god? what makes your god more real than anothers god? the evidence for them are equal in credibility. some of you belive in the same god but in different ways but claim the other is false. - an Alien probably

I trust in Jesus' word moreso than my own thoughts as I am not holy and he is. Jesus is the saviour of mankind because he is blameless and his words are purer than anything else the world has to offer. If you just read what Jesus said and did, you might be impressed.
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ReggieTheReckless
12/23/17 8:50:59 PM
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The word of god

Walk the path of the word of god

The name of God!

... But in Latin, jehova starts with an I!

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LinkPizza
12/23/17 8:55:12 PM
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Don't a lot of religious based paintings allude to aliens being real. And stuff like that.

Also, I believe there was a Bible story(now removed from most Bibles) about Jesus fighting(and slaying) a dragon. Now, they never said dragon, but they did describe it. And it was most likely a dragon...
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yutterh
12/23/17 9:00:20 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Don't a lot of religious based paintings allude to aliens being real. And stuff like that.

Also, I believe there was a Bible story(now removed from most Bibles) about Jesus fighting(and slaying) a dragon. Now, they never said dragon, but they did describe it. And it was most likely a dragon...


Yeah, it's called the leviathan if i am remembering correctly. Also GOD describes it in the book of job (jobe). So yes, GOD made a dragon. Kind of crazy if you think about it lol I always wondered what happened to it.
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LinkPizza
12/23/17 9:02:09 PM
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yutterh posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Don't a lot of religious based paintings allude to aliens being real. And stuff like that.

Also, I believe there was a Bible story(now removed from most Bibles) about Jesus fighting(and slaying) a dragon. Now, they never said dragon, but they did describe it. And it was most likely a dragon...


Yeah, it's called the leviathan if i am remembering correctly. Also GOD describes it in the book of job (jobe). So yes, GOD made a dragon. Kind of crazy if you think about it lol I always wondered what happened to it.

Jesus apparently got rid of it.
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minervo
12/23/17 9:04:49 PM
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yutterh posted...
minervo posted...
yutterh posted...
That if we find aliens GOD doesn't exist. Because they aren't in the bible.....now I am a Christian but I honestly feel Christians put way too much focus on the bible. Yeah it is an important text and it shows how GOD used to interact with us and ways people have dealt with him. Sure some stuff may be a little metaphorical but it isn't the end all be all. I feel people put the bible above GOD himself sometimes. Like they worship a book and not GOD.

/endrant

The bible is the word of God. How can one get to know God if not through his word?

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."


Yes true, but GOD didn't put down every single detail about everything. So just because GOD didn't have us write down that aliens on other planets exist, doesn't mean that GOD doesn't exist. He just chose not to tell us. The notion that if GOD went against something in the bible or decided against something (like the rapture) people like my friend would consider GOD not real. Which is just silly to me. GOD is above all and GOD can choose to go a different course when he wants too. Just like how no christian follows the mosaic law.

Of course the bible shows how GOD interacted with others and how he explains things. You get a glimpse of GOD's character and personality. When i read the bible, you can feel GOD's shift of temperament and how he has come to see us. How he interacts with us. GOD is ever changing. But of course others won't agree with this because when people think of something perfect, they think it just stays the same. But i argue that GOD is perfect because he changes his ways, because he cares and loves us, and has come to understand his creation in a amazing way. Yes GOD is omnipotent but GOD lives in the now and GOD always has the final word.

The bible is his word but he is able to override it at anytime. He can always make a new covenant. My point is that people see the bible as set in stone, when it has much more meaning and purpose then taking everything literal and too the T no matter what. GOD is more then just words and I feel people really miss out on this fact, since they seem to worship the bible more then GOD.


From my understanding, God is the author of all life and stories. If he were to tell us everything he planned from the beginning, we would become the author and change everything ourselves. I believe God has spoken through his word all that will occur, and no other being can know these secrets. Without the bible, mankind would be doomed to annihilation and destruction but those destined to see the light in their journey towards holiness are the ones he has chosen to dwell with him for eternity; these are the ones who heed the lessons and warnings from the bible. Nothing worldly can last for eternity, but the spirit only dies when it is extinguished by sin and insanity.

God has always been righteous, that doesn't mean he has no right to be angry or disappointed with us. We were made in God's image not just physically but spiritually moreso, and the destruction and wrath he has poured out on certain people has always been justified. But I do agree that God is ever-changing, that's why it would be nice to hear from some real present-day prophets, of course they would be massively denounced by atheists.
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TallTamryu
12/23/17 9:58:02 PM
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Haha. Regardless of beliefs, the bible (and other forms of it) were written by humans on Earth. The viewpoints will be as such.

Even IF it was literally written by god and somehow not changed drastically over the years when reprinted, it wouldn't even need to talk about other planets. That's not something anyone for many many years would be able to understand.
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Lokarin
12/23/17 9:59:20 PM
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Even if it was literally written by god... the Council of Trent broke it
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solid_kush
12/23/17 10:08:33 PM
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Plot twist:

God spelled backwards is Dog.

There you have it folks, dogs are gods.
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SushiSquid
12/23/17 10:09:05 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Bible

Stop worrying about it so much. It's allegorical, not factual. It's meant to teach a lesson, not present real history and facts.
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Zeus
12/23/17 11:21:39 PM
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Look, I know Yahweh. He's the kind of guy who would leave aliens out of a sacred text.
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dedbus
12/23/17 11:46:42 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Remind this mindcuck that even if God is completely real and legit, that the Bible was likely written by self-serving priests looking to alter the stories slightly to give them the most power possible.

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Because that's what happened!


Even without that, have you ever tried to teach or train someone? They don't always get the message or the overall view of what you're trying to convey. On top of that, those people are the ones supposed to pass it on and so forth. Even with the best of intentions it would have become an age long game of telephone.
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Nightengale
12/23/17 11:47:01 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Also, I believe there was a Bible story(now removed from most Bibles) about Jesus fighting(and slaying) a dragon. Now, they never said dragon, but they did describe it. And it was most likely a dragon...

Funnily enough, that's not even the MOST metal thing in the Bible.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/24/17 12:36:32 AM
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god already doesn't exist, so...
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Yellow
12/24/17 12:50:46 AM
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"Rocks are alive. This is true, because this sentence is true."
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Lokarin
12/24/17 12:57:07 AM
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That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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minervo
12/24/17 1:16:48 AM
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Atheism is often based on a false conception of human autonomy; agnosticism as a way of life is a lazy flight from the ultimate question of existence and as all too often equivalent of practical atheism.
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Lokarin
12/24/17 2:07:20 AM
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minervo posted...
Atheism is often based on a false conception of human autonomy; agnosticism as a way of life is a lazy flight from the ultimate question of existence and as all too often equivalent of practical atheism.


agnosticism isn't a real thing, it's a word invented by the religious to religify agnostics. Atheism just means the lack of belief in gods and holds no other content of world view.
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LinkPizza
12/24/17 2:19:32 AM
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Nightengale posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Also, I believe there was a Bible story(now removed from most Bibles) about Jesus fighting(and slaying) a dragon. Now, they never said dragon, but they did describe it. And it was most likely a dragon...

Funnily enough, that's not even the MOST metal thing in the Bible.

Yeah. There's a lot of other stuff. I use to go to one of those private church schools. I don't remember much, but I do remember there was a lot of stuff that you don't normally hear about the bible.
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Third_Eye
12/24/17 5:28:41 AM
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-2017
-not realizing that theism/atheism are the same thing
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TigerTycoon
12/24/17 6:08:54 AM
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What if god is an alien.
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kind9
12/24/17 6:14:15 AM
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Lokarin posted...
minervo posted...
Atheism is often based on a false conception of human autonomy; agnosticism as a way of life is a lazy flight from the ultimate question of existence and as all too often equivalent of practical atheism.


agnosticism isn't a real thing, it's a word invented by the religious to religify agnostics. Atheism just means the lack of belief in gods and holds no other content of world view.

The term agnosticism was created by Aldous Huxley because all his peers had isms and he didn't.

Third_Eye posted...
-2017
-not realizing that theism/atheism are the same thing

They're literally opposite things.
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Cacciato
12/24/17 6:55:54 AM
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kind9 posted...
Lokarin posted...
minervo posted...
Atheism is often based on a false conception of human autonomy; agnosticism as a way of life is a lazy flight from the ultimate question of existence and as all too often equivalent of practical atheism.


agnosticism isn't a real thing, it's a word invented by the religious to religify agnostics. Atheism just means the lack of belief in gods and holds no other content of world view.

The term agnosticism was created by Aldous Huxley because all his peers had isms and he didn't.

Third_Eye posted...
-2017
-not realizing that theism/atheism are the same thing

They're literally opposite things.

Wikipedia says you have the wrong Huxley. How does that make you feel?
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kind9
12/24/17 7:00:09 AM
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Cacciato posted...
kind9 posted...
Lokarin posted...
minervo posted...
Atheism is often based on a false conception of human autonomy; agnosticism as a way of life is a lazy flight from the ultimate question of existence and as all too often equivalent of practical atheism.


agnosticism isn't a real thing, it's a word invented by the religious to religify agnostics. Atheism just means the lack of belief in gods and holds no other content of world view.

The term agnosticism was created by Aldous Huxley because all his peers had isms and he didn't.

Third_Eye posted...
-2017
-not realizing that theism/atheism are the same thing

They're literally opposite things.

Wikipedia says you have the wrong Huxley. How does that make you feel?

Hot and bothered.
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FatalAccident
12/24/17 9:11:04 AM
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Third_Eye posted...
-2017
-not realizing that theism/atheism are the same thing

where did you go to school?

these are literally the complete opposite of each other

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