Board 8 > Final Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 35: So long Torment farming!

(+) Yeah! (+)

You just aren't worth it compared to our new Power Up Dungeon Dailies overlords...

List of B8 RW.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GTAEcEAjw57qTwXc71egRGDWQq_L1TrdNJdarRbYyJk/edit#gid=585371231

Enlir's spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16K1Zryyxrh7vdKVF1f7eRrUAOC5wuzvC3q2gFLch6LQ/edit#gid=938172420

MisterP's pdf:
http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf

Is there any banner ever again that has Ramza's BSB and Shout on it?

Cause if there is that is what he shouod draw on IMO.

Fenrir and Bismark down. pretty sure i wouldn't have been able to beat Bismark without Ashe. i actually used a magic team for Fenrir despite my maxed out Squall. got scared by the blink, and i have Edea with her BSB, and Serah with hastega/mag buff and both BSBs. i left Serah to buffing/debuffing while Raines used chain blizzaga and Edea used her commands.

Golem might be possible with what i have now. i have Cloud OSB, and BSBs for Cid, Luneth, Zack, Fujin and Alphinaud. unfortunately i lack a healer BSB with mag buff, like Selphie, Yuna or Mog, and i don't have OK BSB either, so it's kind of awkward to run magic parties. i used Sazh with BSB and Papalymo with SSB against Bismark, which i'm not sure would work against Golem with my far inferior wind dps compared to Ashe.
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Xuxon posted...

Fenrir and Bismark down. pretty sure i wouldn't have been able to beat Bismark without Ashe. i actually used a magic team for Fenrir despite my maxed out Squall. got scared by the blink, and i have Edea with her BSB, and Serah with hastega/mag buff and both BSBs. i left Serah to buffing/debuffing while Raines used chain blizzaga and Edea used her commands.

Golem might be possible with what i have now. i have Cloud OSB, and BSBs for Cid, Luneth, Zack, Fujin and Alphinaud. unfortunately i lack a healer BSB with mag buff, like Selphie, Yuna or Mog, and i don't have OK BSB either, so it's kind of awkward to run magic parties. i used Sazh with BSB and Papalymo with SSB against Bismark, which i'm not sure would work against Golem with my far inferior wind dps compared to Ashe.

I literally have the exact same relics you do for Golem (except I have Cloud USB instead of OSB and I also have Zack's CSB in addition to BSB), if you are able to beat that fucker Wind physical please tell me how. I've failed so much...

man you should easily be able to do golem with that. lifesiphon/wrath up for 2 bars each on Zack Cloud and battery, then drop the hammer with Zack CSB then BSB, Cloud USB x4 (or maybe even 3 would be enough).

for me, i think my best shot is something similar, but would probably need 3 bars each and 3 different attackers. Zack BSBx3, Cloud OSBx3, Cid H BSBx3. along with Eiko and Ramza. though i don't know if i can survive with only one healer.
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Xuxon posted...

man you should easily be able to do golem with that. lifesiphon/wrath up for 2 bars each on Zack Cloud and battery, then drop the hammer with Zack CSB then BSB, Cloud USB x4 (or maybe even 3 would be enough).

for me, i think my best shot is something similar, but would probably need 3 bars each and 3 different attackers. Zack BSBx3, Cloud OSBx3, Cid H BSBx3. along with Eiko and Ramza. though i don't know if i can survive with only one healer.

If I had anyway to survive him long enough that might do it. He just annihilates me so fucking quick. :(

Hey ChampionCloud you put the battle speed at 1 right <_<
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Lopen posted...

Hey ChampionCloud you put the battle speed at 1 right <_<

Yes.

I can 5 speed all the way up to 180, but I have to 1 speed all the really hard stuff.

I mean I'd assume so since you've been playing it so long but your woes seemed so close to Chris's that I had to ask.
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Lopen posted...

I mean I'd assume so since you've been playing it so long but your woes seemed so close to Chris's that I had to ask.

No, it's a fair question. I get it. And thx.

Tag
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To Chris's question in the previous topic, I think it's better to draw on the OK banner instead of waiting an extra month for the Ramza banner. Both are great, but you want to improve your team sooner so you can clear the events that come between now and the Tactics banner.
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Ugh I'm working overtime this week because of Christmas and I did the ultimates last night but I barely remember much about them except that Vaan with his USB murdered them, and the apocalypse+ spams status effects but it's a native realm for Larsa. Oh and Vayne came along to use a water attack on the King bomb.

I also got Reks' super off a 100 gem draw, at least I got some melee attack synergy armor for 12 now.

Also I still prefer torment farming over the new daily dungeons since it's more of a guaranteed win over the random low chance of magic pots, 3 orbs for 60 stamina vs 80 where you may not even get a single major orb. Half off Magicite is still tops but STUPID KEYSTONES.
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i mean obviously the 100 stamina daily is the one to do, not 80. i have like 2000 major orbs and i have hardly even done dailies for like the past year.
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If you run the orb daily your EV is supposedly like 25 stamina per major orb, so still a little worse than torments. But torments are WAY more of a pain to farm because of needing to use a drop monitor. I'm mostly planning on farming crystals now but there still are some orb types I want (mainly summon, because getting those to R5 is useful).
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When Geos or Ruby Dragon return, I might still farm them, depending on other needs.
Torments are open 7 days a week, the right daily is only open once a week.
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I'm actually kinda having trouble resisting this lucky draw. It's 11 USBs out of 32 relics and some of them are very good (Yuna, Eiko, Relm...)
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I don't have a single healer USB, so it is somewhat tempting. But, then I also have 12/32 dupes (including 2 of them already at 8*), so I feel like I should really skip.

Screw it, I'm pulling...

Whelp, 1/11 Mistilteinn dupe.
25 mythril down the drain.
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I still need the major orbs, especially with the earth version of guardbringer, 4-hit earth spellblade and Madeen coming up soon. (Gee now we need the stupid earth and holy orbs)

2/11

Selphie and Lenna supers. Two dupes. Not even decent stat sticks, fuck. Should have resisted.
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First LD is an easy skip, I'd be tempted on the second one if mythril wasn't so tight atm.
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Wellp

I could not resist, and probably used all my luck up.

3/11

Yuna USB
Rosa USB
Relm SSB
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Hamelin dupe (gonna be an 8 star now....)
Lenna Super
Relm USB. (Is this any good?)

man why did i pull on this shit

2/11
Aria BSB
Larsa SSB

at least i didn't get any of my already-at-8* dupes

ChampionCloud posted...

Relm USB. (Is this any good?)

literally my most wanted relic from this banner. instant heal + stoneskin and gives everyone in the party instant cast. if i ever take an aoe heal for a RW, that's the one i'm looking for. i guess Rosa's might be more useful to have overall, because she has wrath and Relm doesn't.
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Xuxon posted...

man why did i pull on this shit

2/11
Aria BSB
Larsa SSB

at least i didn't get any of my already-at-8* dupes

ChampionCloud posted...

Relm USB. (Is this any good?)

literally my most wanted relic from this banner. instant heal + stoneskin and gives everyone in the party instant cast. if i ever take an aoe heal for a RW, that's the one i'm looking for. i guess Rosa's might be more useful to have overall, because she has wrath and Relm doesn't.

It's better than Yuna's and Eiko's?

imo yes, outside of situations where you you absolutely need last stand, like that one crazy fight... Nemesis, i think?
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Kaxon posted...

If you run the orb daily your EV is supposedly like 25 stamina per major orb, so still a little worse than torments. But torments are WAY more of a pain to farm because of needing to use a drop monitor. I'm mostly planning on farming crystals now but there still are some orb types I want (mainly summon, because getting those to R5 is useful).

even major summons don't really seem worth it to me compared to crystals. i have Bahamut, Tiamat and Titan R3, could hone two of them to R4 right now if i wanted and have never even once felt compelled to use Ogopogo or Ultima Weapon. but i haven't made neo bahamut yet and don't have enough for valigarmanda R4.

if anything the only time i could see myself going for majors is dark/ice day. mostly just for dark. i haven't honed any ninja magic and all 3 of the magicites i have failed to beat are (or will be) weak to ninja magic. and for some reason they all use dark orbs as their primary.

though dark/ice crystals are needed for omega drive/SSS so idk.
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Xuxon posted...

imo yes, outside of situations where you you absolutely need last stand, like that one crazy fight... Nemesis, i think?

Ok. Thx. MKes me feel much better about my 25 mythril

1/11

Arc SSB

Fuck
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Xuxon posted...

even major summons don't really seem worth it to me compared to crystals. i have Bahamut, Tiamat and Titan R3, could hone two of them to R4 right now if i wanted and have never even once felt compelled to use Ogopogo or Ultima Weapon. but i haven't made neo bahamut yet and don't have enough for valigarmanda R4.

I have Alphinaud's USB which gives a % damage boost based on the hone level of the summon. But yeah, I'm still going to be prioritizing 6* summons over the 5* ones.

Summons are looking worse in comparison after the chain spells got buffed. 5* black magic gives you 4 hits but Valigarmanda only gives you 3. Anyone know if there's another summon buff coming?
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Healer lucky is an easy pass for me. Not a lot of interesting draws there. I think Yuna's Ultra and Vanille's Burst are the only ones I'd kinda want that I don't have. Minwu's SSB for +10 MND I guess. Have my top two of the set in Minwu's Ultra and Ovelia's Ultra.
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Had quite a few 5* dupes on the Lucky, but the number of 6* on the banner made me think it was worth the gamble. Only got 1/11, but it was Rosa USB! This is my first instaheal SB which should help immensely
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I'm dumb and I pulled on the healer draw. 1/11 duplicate Ovelia SSB. UGH
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i mean, it's 1/3 USBs and half price. the value's definitely there if you don't have any, and probably still if you only have one or two of them (especially if any of the BSBs would be useful). it just sucks when you swing and miss.
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Yeah I think it's better than the Burst one probably, which I will be drawing on

I just happen to be stacked on healing soul breaks. I probably have about half the relics on the banner, and it'd be the better half at that.
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Lopen posted...

Yeah I think it's better than the Burst one probably, which I will be drawing on

I just happen to be stacked on healing soul breaks. I probably have about half the relics on the banner, and it'd be the better half at that.

This is pretty much me
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1/11 Noel's. I know under every reasonable metric ever that should be a failure.... but fuck
it. I've tried to get a XIII sword for two years now and finally have one. I have no regrets.

3/11

Celes's Lightbringer (Maria's Song) (Holy Boost Sword)
Lann's Fritt Mirage (Channel Element: Fire) (Fire Boost Thrown)
And the real prize
Paine's Guise (Grand Storm) (WATER BOOST ARMOR yeahhh)

Very happy with this pull just from the gear end. Really wanted that Paine Armor to give to Tidus and/or Rikku.

Might actually use Celes once in a while though.
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I gave in to temptation on the medica banner, but lack of 6* relics makes this one a skip for me.
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3/10

Rydia BSB1
Reynn BSB
Barrett BSB

No dupes surprisingly! But nothing too great. Bablizz does have native Ice boost so Rinoa and Ace can use it (but not Lulu unfortunately) so not too bad.
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Tag
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so i've been thinking about the upcoming Earth banner and whether i could use Tifa as my primary earth damager, but it isn't looking good. seems like she can only do the basic en-element OSB combo. her only renewable source of en-earth is from her BSB1 which never returns, so she essentially has 25 seconds to get in as many OSBs as possible with entrusting. that's if i get the LMR and OSB. and the only earth boosting fist is Rude's BSB, also never returning. i could go for those BSBs in this lucky draw with about a 1% chance each of getting them (or the beginner banner lmao).

only other character i like for the earth role is Celes. she would require more relics to be optimal (USB, LMR, earth boosting sword and armor) and she's many months away but would at least be usable with just the USB. and bonus of going for her is she's usable with many elements. also if i get the earth gear but whiff on Celes herself then those dumb FFV characters can at least clear the earth-weak content for me. though i guess the same is true with the fest banner if i get Bartz gear.
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1/11 - Edward BSB dupe

Lol
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i wasn't going to pull on this but... well i did anyway. Kain BSB, which is one of the better things i could get since i have his OSB. between that and Ashe, lightning went from one of my weakest elements to one of my strongest.

(also Lenna BSB, which is just worse than the Penelo one i got the other day)
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2/11

Mog BSB
Garland BSB

sure ok
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This one I think I can actually skip. The grand prizes aren't as tempting as yesterday and I have waaay too many dupes. Hoping for a good pull on the 6* LD tonight!
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All I want for Christmas is Zidane's USB, or maybe Chicken Knife :P
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lots of USBs i want. Cloud, Sephiroth, Tidus, Zidane, Laguna, Relm, Eiko, Rosa, Vivi.

i guess that isn't many compared to the size of the pool
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Yeah there are a lot I want, those are just at the top of the list. Vivi, Cloud, and Terra are high on the list as well. Or pretty much any chain.
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2/11

Cid Highwind Viper Halberd BSB
Garnet Staff of Ramuh BSB

Not bad I suppose.
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nice, just had a perfect multiplayer team with someone else spamming meltdown, me with Squall for ice and Ashe for lightning. everyone else was non-elemental or a healer.

though it sucks that the barrier change happens before a doublecast can trigger. i guess i should have used Squall BSB commands instead of SSS to at least get non-elemental doublecasts.
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