Poll of the Day > Facebook ditches "fake news" flag

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Andromicus 12/21/17 12:32:30 PM #1:	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42438750 Who knew morons would see people disputing their dumb beliefs as affirming them? <cite>Andromicus posted [p:892630314] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42438750 Who knew morons would see people disputing their dumb beliefs as affirming them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 12/21/17 1:04:50 PM #2:	holy shit that is EXACTLY what south park said they'd do --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:892631946] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote>holy shit that is EXACTLY what south park said they'd do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amuseum 12/21/17 1:37:08 PM #3:	The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. Regardless, this doesn't dismiss the fact that FB still has and always had a bias in selecting articles for flagging. they still think they are the ultimate arbiters of truth and opinions. It's one thing if FB themselves write news article, thus can pander their ideology as they see fit. However, they are merely a platform for other news sources. Thus this fake news identification is inherently partial and judgmental on opinions that oppose FB ideology. Which again anything that FB opposes will automatically be confirmation for values of opponents. Thus anything FB tries to curb 'truthiness' will at best be ineffective, at worst drive even more readers to flagged articles. --- Ergonomic keyboard layouts for Android https://goo.gl/KR1vK6 5-suited Draw Poker for Android http://goo.gl/KhmXi <cite>Amuseum posted [p:892633686] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote>The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. Regardless, this doesn't dismiss the fact that FB still has and always had a bias in selecting articles for flagging. they still think they are the ultimate arbiters of truth and opinions. It's one thing if FB themselves write news article, thus can pander their ideology as they see fit. However, they are merely a platform for other news sources. Thus this fake news identification is inherently partial and judgmental on opinions that oppose FB ideology. Which again anything that FB opposes will automatically be confirmation for values of opponents. Thus anything FB tries to curb 'truthiness' will at best be ineffective, at worst drive even more readers to flagged articles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/21/17 2:00:02 PM #4:	Amuseum posted... The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. This, tbh. The measure was almost exclusively partisan in nature and plays into a larger trend of traditionally left-leaning (or straight-up liberal) media outlets trying to delegitimize emerging, conservative media. Pretty much everybody understands that -- liberal or conservative -- so the conservatives weren't terribly likely to take the flag seriously. The general issue is that this model causes actual falsehoods to be ignored by over-policing on the conservative side while controversial claims on the other side aren't even checked. More so, the idea that people would trust Facebook parroting the "fact-checkers" they already distrust was laughable. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:892635017] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Amuseum posted...</cite> <quote>The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. </quote> This, tbh. The measure was almost exclusively partisan in nature and plays into a larger trend of traditionally left-leaning (or straight-up liberal) media outlets trying to delegitimize emerging, conservative media. Pretty much everybody understands that -- liberal or conservative -- so the conservatives weren't terribly likely to take the flag seriously. The general issue is that this model causes actual falsehoods to be ignored by over-policing on the conservative side while controversial claims on the other side aren't even checked. More so, the idea that people would trust Facebook parroting the "fact-checkers" they already distrust was laughable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 12/21/17 2:04:47 PM #5:	It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased <cite>Andromicus posted [p:892635313] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/21/17 2:07:48 PM #6:	Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:892635488] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 12/21/17 2:28:38 PM #7:	Amuseum posted... The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. Regardless, this doesn't dismiss the fact that FB still has and always had a bias in selecting articles for flagging. they still think they are the ultimate arbiters of truth and opinions. It's one thing if FB themselves write news article, thus can pander their ideology as they see fit. However, they are merely a platform for other news sources. Thus this fake news identification is inherently partial and judgmental on opinions that oppose FB ideology. Which again anything that FB opposes will automatically be confirmation for values of opponents. Thus anything FB tries to curb 'truthiness' will at best be ineffective, at worst drive even more readers to flagged articles. OMG r u the alt right??? --- AT&T U-Verse internet is TRASH. <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:892636712] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Amuseum posted...</cite> <quote>The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. Regardless, this doesn't dismiss the fact that FB still has and always had a bias in selecting articles for flagging. they still think they are the ultimate arbiters of truth and opinions. It's one thing if FB themselves write news article, thus can pander their ideology as they see fit. However, they are merely a platform for other news sources. Thus this fake news identification is inherently partial and judgmental on opinions that oppose FB ideology. Which again anything that FB opposes will automatically be confirmation for values of opponents. Thus anything FB tries to curb 'truthiness' will at best be ineffective, at worst drive even more readers to flagged articles.</quote> OMG r u the alt right???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 12/21/17 2:29:48 PM #8:	Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased Ive seen a LOT of really dumb liberal leaning stories --- AT&T U-Verse internet is TRASH. <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:892636785] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> Ive seen a LOT of really dumb liberal leaning stories</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 12/21/17 4:18:54 PM #9:	Andromicus posted... Who knew morons would see people disputing their dumb beliefs as affirming them? Would you actually trust facebook to use it responsibly? I would be quicker to think that a flagged post doesn't fit with their political ideology. Instead of displaying a warning icon in the news feed, it will instead "surface fact-checked articles" and display them next to disputed stories. Likewise I expect these fact-checked articles to have their own bias that does fit with facebook's political ideology. Critics say social networks should face regulation if they do not tackle the spread of misinformation and propaganda. Others say social networks shouldn't be treated so seriously nor thought of as a form of journalism. Really, who thinks of facebook as a news source? "What Facebook is trying to do is respond to pressure that it should be treated as a publisher, rather than a platform," said Tim Luckhurst, professor of journalism at the University of Kent. Isn't that the opposite of what people want? "I think that argument is dead. They are a publisher, so it is not enough to offer people a menu of other related stories. They didn't close this quote. "We have a generation of people that are so anti-establishment and sceptical of evidence-based news, we need regulation of the type imposed on broadcasters since they first emerged." Wait... People are anti-establishment, so the way to address that is more dictatorship over the exchange of ideas. That's going to backfire. Also, what a dumbass. Also, also, they misspelled skeptical in the article. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:892642680] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>Who knew morons would see people disputing their dumb beliefs as affirming them?</quote> Would you actually trust facebook to use it responsibly? I would be quicker to think that a flagged post doesn't fit with their political ideology. <quote>Instead of displaying a warning icon in the news feed, it will instead "surface fact-checked articles" and display them next to disputed stories.</quote> Likewise I expect these fact-checked articles to have their own bias that does fit with facebook's political ideology. <quote>Critics say social networks should face regulation if they do not tackle the spread of misinformation and propaganda.</quote> Others say social networks shouldn't be treated so seriously nor thought of as a form of journalism. Really, who thinks of facebook as a news source? <quote>"What Facebook is trying to do is respond to pressure that it should be treated as a publisher, rather than a platform," said Tim Luckhurst, professor of journalism at the University of Kent.</quote> Isn't that the opposite of what people want? <quote>"I think that argument is dead. They are a publisher, so it is not enough to offer people a menu of other related stories. </quote> They didn't close this quote. <quote>"We have a generation of people that are so anti-establishment and sceptical of evidence-based news, we need regulation of the type imposed on broadcasters since they first emerged."</quote> Wait... People are anti-establishment, so the way to address that is more dictatorship over the exchange of ideas. That's going to backfire. Also, what a dumbass. Also, also, they misspelled skeptical in the article.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightShift 12/21/17 5:19:10 PM #10:	Zeus posted... Amuseum posted... The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. This, tbh. The measure was almost exclusively partisan in nature and plays into a larger trend of traditionally left-leaning (or straight-up liberal) media outlets trying to delegitimize emerging, conservative media. Pretty much everybody understands that -- liberal or conservative -- so the conservatives weren't terribly likely to take the flag seriously. The general issue is that this model causes actual falsehoods to be ignored by over-policing on the conservative side while controversial claims on the other side aren't even checked. More so, the idea that people would trust Facebook parroting the "fact-checkers" they already distrust was laughable. Zeus posted... Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness. oh the irony --- #BikeLife <cite>NightShift posted [p:892645847] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Amuseum posted...</cite> <quote>The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. </quote> This, tbh. The measure was almost exclusively partisan in nature and plays into a larger trend of traditionally left-leaning (or straight-up liberal) media outlets trying to delegitimize emerging, conservative media. Pretty much everybody understands that -- liberal or conservative -- so the conservatives weren't terribly likely to take the flag seriously. The general issue is that this model causes actual falsehoods to be ignored by over-policing on the conservative side while controversial claims on the other side aren't even checked. More so, the idea that people would trust Facebook parroting the "fact-checkers" they already distrust was laughable.</quote> <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness.</quote> oh the irony</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 12/21/17 5:23:56 PM #11:	NightShift posted... oh the irony No you see he is counter biased which means he isn't biased <cite>Andromicus posted [p:892646134] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightShift posted...</cite> <quote>oh the irony</quote> No you see he is counter biased which means he isn't biased</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/21/17 7:05:05 PM #12:	NightShift posted... Zeus posted... Amuseum posted... The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. This, tbh. The measure was almost exclusively partisan in nature and plays into a larger trend of traditionally left-leaning (or straight-up liberal) media outlets trying to delegitimize emerging, conservative media. Pretty much everybody understands that -- liberal or conservative -- so the conservatives weren't terribly likely to take the flag seriously. The general issue is that this model causes actual falsehoods to be ignored by over-policing on the conservative side while controversial claims on the other side aren't even checked. More so, the idea that people would trust Facebook parroting the "fact-checkers" they already distrust was laughable. Zeus posted... Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness. oh the irony I like that you jumped on your other alt to defend your first alt. Classy. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:892651876] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightShift posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Amuseum posted...</cite> <quote>The original intent was to flag controversial conservative views. So obviously when conservatives see that "fake news " icon, they flock to Those articles, as easy identifiers for the type of news they prefer. </quote> This, tbh. The measure was almost exclusively partisan in nature and plays into a larger trend of traditionally left-leaning (or straight-up liberal) media outlets trying to delegitimize emerging, conservative media. Pretty much everybody understands that -- liberal or conservative -- so the conservatives weren't terribly likely to take the flag seriously. The general issue is that this model causes actual falsehoods to be ignored by over-policing on the conservative side while controversial claims on the other side aren't even checked. More so, the idea that people would trust Facebook parroting the "fact-checkers" they already distrust was laughable.</quote> <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness.</quote> oh the irony</quote> I like that you jumped on your other alt to defend your first alt. Classy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 12/21/17 7:08:24 PM #13:	Lol you really see enemies everywhere <cite>Andromicus posted [p:892652058] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote>Lol you really see enemies everywhere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 12/21/17 7:09:25 PM #14:	Zeus posted... Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness. Leftists seem to have a much greater tendency to take the media that caters to them as 100% gospel <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:892652113] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness.</quote> Leftists seem to have a much greater tendency to take the media that caters to them as 100% gospel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 12/21/17 7:11:53 PM #15:	OhhhJa posted... Zeus posted... Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness. Leftists seem to have a much greater tendency to take the media that caters to them as 100% gospel And conservatives believe anything a nut says if it goes against common sense <cite>Andromicus posted [p:892652252] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness.</quote> Leftists seem to have a much greater tendency to take the media that caters to them as 100% gospel</quote> And conservatives believe anything a nut says if it goes against common sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 12/21/17 7:13:51 PM #16:	Andromicus posted... OhhhJa posted... Zeus posted... Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness. Leftists seem to have a much greater tendency to take the media that caters to them as 100% gospel And conservatives believe anything a nut says if it goes against common sense I'll agree that there's definitely more nutjobs on the right but they're far more of an outlier than my scenario <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:892652362] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness.</quote> Leftists seem to have a much greater tendency to take the media that caters to them as 100% gospel</quote> And conservatives believe anything a nut says if it goes against common sense</quote> I'll agree that there's definitely more nutjobs on the right but they're far more of an outlier than my scenario</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/23/17 3:09:15 AM #17:	Andromicus posted... Lol you really see enemies everywhere No, I just see alts when two accounts created within a few days of each other and have sounded alike start agreeing with each other. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:892727072] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>Lol you really see enemies everywhere</quote> No, I just see alts when two accounts created within a few days of each other and have sounded alike start agreeing with each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 12/23/17 3:18:21 AM #18:	Zeus posted... Andromicus posted... It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:892727289] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>It's not Facebook's fault that an overwhelming amount of conservative leaning news sources are incredibly biased</quote> He says without the slightest touch of irony or self-awareness.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 12/23/17 4:30:58 AM #19:	Only an idiot gets their news from Facebook, ok? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:892728786] in Facebook d... [t:76122704]...</cite> <quote>Only an idiot gets their news from Facebook, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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