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12/09/17 11:59:33 AM
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Protests/riots:
An Israeli army statement said what it called violent riots had broken out in about 30 locations across the West Bank and Gaza on Friday. The main disturbances in the West Bank were in Hebron, Al-Arroub, Tulkarm, Ramallah, Qalqilya and Nablus.

More than 300 people were injured across the West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem on Friday, 50 of whom needed hospital treatment, the Palestinian Authority's Ministry of Health said.


Air strikes in response to rocket fire:
The Israel Defense Forces said Israeli aircraft had targeted what it identified as four facilities belonging to Hamas -- the Palestinian Islamist group that controls Gaza -- early Saturday in response to rockets fired into southern Israel from Gaza.

The aircraft targeted two weapons manufacturing sites, a weapons warehouse and a military compound, according to an IDF news release.

The IDF said Israeli aircraft had also struck a Hamas training compound and ammunition warehouse in Gaza late on Friday.

One of the rockets fired from Gaza landed in the Israeli city of Sderot, according to the IDF. There was no mention of casualties.


International Condemnation of Trumps Embassy Decision:
Trump's decision Wednesday to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and commit to moving the US Embassy to the holy city has prompted international condemnation and sparked protests in countries around the globe, from Indonesia and Malaysia to Iraq, Jordan, Turkey and Egypt.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/09/middleeast/jerusalem-israel-palestinians-trump-intl/index.html

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Alucard188
12/09/17 12:01:10 PM
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ABSOLUTELY NO ONE saw this coming.

You're a fucking moron, Donald Trump.
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hortanz
12/09/17 12:02:13 PM
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how was trump supposed to know that a 180 on decades of policy and going against the advice of numerous experts on the geopolitical dynamics of the middle east would lead to this?
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--kresnik--
12/09/17 12:02:18 PM
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This is what Israel wanted and the past several presidents promised to do this, too. It was the right move to make.
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12/09/17 12:02:51 PM
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twitterfriends
12/09/17 12:03:04 PM
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How is that America First?

We would rather give Israel bombs than fix a ur crumbling infrastructure here at home.
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BLAKUboy
12/09/17 12:03:21 PM
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hortanz posted...
how was trump supposed to know that a 180 on decades of policy and going against the advice of numerous experts on the geopolitical dynamics of the middle east would lead to this?

But Trump knows the best people!
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Alucard188
12/09/17 12:03:39 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
This is what Israel wanted and the past several presidents promised to do this, too. It was the right move to make.


There's a reason why they always postponed the move.

Protip: This is the reason why.
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Fishy
12/09/17 12:03:52 PM
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I'm confused as to how this is a bad thing other the the religion of peace being decidedly unpeaceful about it
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hortanz
12/09/17 12:05:56 PM
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Fishy posted...
I'm confused as to how this is a bad thing other the the religion of peace being decidedly unpeaceful about it


I also don't understand why tossing a lit match into a pool of oil is such a bad thing, maybe someone should have cleaned up the oil in the first place smh
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12/09/17 12:08:51 PM
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hortanz posted...
Fishy posted...
I'm confused as to how this is a bad thing other the the religion of peace being decidedly unpeaceful about it


I also don't understand why tossing a lit match into a pool of oil is such a bad thing, maybe someone should have cleaned up the oil in the first place smh

And why does that job fall to the United States?
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12/09/17 12:09:47 PM
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I don't understand how (and I'm not arguing) so many liberals side with Palestine over Israel. I don't think everybody here has bothered to look at the facts.
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Alucard188
12/09/17 12:11:24 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
hortanz posted...
Fishy posted...
I'm confused as to how this is a bad thing other the the religion of peace being decidedly unpeaceful about it


I also don't understand why tossing a lit match into a pool of oil is such a bad thing, maybe someone should have cleaned up the oil in the first place smh

And why does that job fall to the United States?


He didn't say that it was the US's job to clean up the oil spill. The very least they can do is keep all sources of heat away from it, and maybe throw down a layer of sawdust to absorb some of the oil and keep it from burning down your garage.

--kresnik-- posted...
I don't understand how (and I'm not arguing) so many liberals side with Palestine over Israel. I don't think everybody here has bothered to look at the facts.


There's a tentative armistice over Jerusalem, and most of us don't want to upset the apple cart. Trump not only upset that cart with this declaration, but he threw a lit match on it and walked away. It's what he does. This result was expected as soon as he made the declaration.
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lilORANG
12/09/17 12:12:58 PM
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The new embassy will undoubtedly be a dangerous place to be. If anyone gets killed there it'll be a much bigger scandal than Benghazi.
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thronedfire2
12/09/17 12:14:33 PM
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Huh, I figured WW3 would have started with NK, not the Middle East
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12/09/17 12:15:15 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
I don't understand how (and I'm not arguing) so many liberals side with Palestine over Israel. I don't think everybody here has bothered to look at the facts.

I think they side with the Palestinians that are victims of what is basically Israeli enforced apartheid. Idk if anyone is actually declaring full support for one side over the other. But most conservatives will tell you that if you oppose anything Israel does at all, you're an anti Israel anti Semite. So the conversation gets muddied.
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--kresnik--
12/09/17 12:18:02 PM
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nicklebro posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
I don't understand how (and I'm not arguing) so many liberals side with Palestine over Israel. I don't think everybody here has bothered to look at the facts.

I think they side with the Palestinians that are victims of what is basically Israeli enforced apartheid. Idk if anyone is actually declaring full support for one side over the other. But most conservatives will tell you that if you oppose anything Israel does at all, you're an anti Israel anti Semite. So the conversation gets muddied.

I fucking HATE that. In some regards, I'm pro Israel, but I feel that WAY too much of our capital is finding its way to Israel and that needs to stop. Though nobody is allowed to bring it up
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Hexenherz
12/09/17 12:20:42 PM
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lmao how do you define "siding with Palestine over Israel"? That's such a generic statement.
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nicklebro
12/09/17 12:21:49 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
nicklebro posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
I don't understand how (and I'm not arguing) so many liberals side with Palestine over Israel. I don't think everybody here has bothered to look at the facts.

I think they side with the Palestinians that are victims of what is basically Israeli enforced apartheid. Idk if anyone is actually declaring full support for one side over the other. But most conservatives will tell you that if you oppose anything Israel does at all, you're an anti Israel anti Semite. So the conversation gets muddied.

I fucking HATE that. In some regards, I'm pro Israel, but I feel that WAY too much of our capital is finding its way to Israel and that needs to stop. Though nobody is allowed to bring it up

Yeah some things you're just never allowed to even talk about. Israel, guns, Obama being amazing.
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BLAKUboy
12/09/17 12:22:45 PM
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lilORANG posted...
The new embassy will undoubtedly be a dangerous place to be. If anyone gets killed there it'll be a much bigger scandal than Benghazi.

Agreed, which is why we need another 50 investigations into Benghazi!!
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Solar_Crimson
12/09/17 12:24:05 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
ABSOLUTELY NO ONE saw this coming.

You're a fucking moron, Donald Trump.

hortanz posted...
how was trump supposed to know that a 180 on decades of policy and going against the advice of numerous experts on the geopolitical dynamics of the middle east would lead to this?

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Vyrulisse
12/09/17 12:25:47 PM
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Appeasing Muslims never works. Appeasement in general never works so why continue the farce?

Why don't we blame the people actually committing the violence instead of on an announcement?
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nicklebro
12/09/17 12:31:13 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Appeasing Muslims never works. Appeasement in general never works so why continue the farce?

It isn't appeasement to maintain the status quo. Even if it was, why is appeasing Jews preferable to appeasing Muslims? Hell how do we even know appeasing Muslims won't work, when have we ever tried it? See how this has led to violence already? And for no tangible benefit.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/09/17 12:32:13 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
So...is the world going to realize that the religion of peace isn't that peaceful?

Or are we just going to circle jerk hating on Trump?

Because like it or not, millions of Muslims are angrily protesting and a lot of them are doing so violently.


Yes, they are... and it's trump's fault.
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nicklebro
12/09/17 12:40:13 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
GregShmedley posted...
So...is the world going to realize that the religion of peace isn't that peaceful?

Or are we just going to circle jerk hating on Trump?

Because like it or not, millions of Muslims are angrily protesting and a lot of them are doing so violently.


Yes, they are... and it's trump's fault.


No, it's the violent religious nutjobs' fault.

If anything, this just shows how poisonous religion is.

True that, fuck religion.

But Trump does have to accept the blame for this reaction since he handled it so poorly. Either that or he has to admit he's completely clueless when it comes to foreign relations.
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hortanz
12/09/17 12:41:35 PM
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nicklebro posted...
But Trump does have to accept the blame for this reaction since he handled it so poorly. Either that or he has to admit he's completely clueless when it comes to foreign relations.


he doesn't have to do either because his fanbase nor his party will hold him accountable and nothing will change
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yemmy
12/09/17 12:45:55 PM
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Awesome
12/09/17 12:46:24 PM
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trump is proving people right and wrong
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stoltenberg11
12/09/17 12:46:47 PM
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Awesome posted...
trump is proving people right and wrong

5D chess
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StucklnMyPants
12/09/17 12:48:10 PM
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What a world we live in when people start blaming a person for the actions of others.
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Hinakuluiau
12/09/17 12:54:38 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
What a world we live in when people start blaming a person for the actions of others.

Trump is not responsible for the actions that the rioters are doing, no. He is responsible for making the situation go from bad to worse for no benefit other than virtue signalling.
We know that there are people in both Israel and Palestine who want nothing more than the complete annihilation of the other. Trump's decision here set off a spark that gives an excuse to both sides to do even worse here.

You guys get caught up on how Trump isn't responsible for it, but if he hadn't done anything then the situation would not be unfolding the way it is. That is literally being responsible, because as the fucking president of the fucking United States, his words and actions don't have comparable analogies to the rest of us plebs because he actually carries weight.
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nicklebro
12/09/17 1:01:31 PM
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hortanz posted...
nicklebro posted...
But Trump does have to accept the blame for this reaction since he handled it so poorly. Either that or he has to admit he's completely clueless when it comes to foreign relations.


he doesn't have to do either because his fanbase nor his party will hold him accountable and nothing will change

You're right.

Hinakuluiau posted...
StucklnMyPants posted...
What a world we live in when people start blaming a person for the actions of others.

Trump is not responsible for the actions that the rioters are doing, no. He is responsible for making the situation go from bad to worse for no benefit other than virtue signalling.
We know that there are people in both Israel and Palestine who want nothing more than the complete annihilation of the other. Trump's decision here set off a spark that gives an excuse to both sides to do even worse here.

You guys get caught up on how Trump isn't responsible for it, but if he hadn't done anything then the situation would not be unfolding the way it is. That is literally being responsible, because as the fucking president of the fucking United States, his words and actions don't have comparable analogies to the rest of us plebs because he actually carries weight.

Yeah they're all so full of shit, like their king.
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creativerealms
12/09/17 1:06:46 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
This is what Israel wanted and the past several presidents promised to do this, too. It was the right move to make.

But not the right time to make it.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/09/17 1:42:00 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
GregShmedley posted...
So...is the world going to realize that the religion of peace isn't that peaceful?

Or are we just going to circle jerk hating on Trump?

Because like it or not, millions of Muslims are angrily protesting and a lot of them are doing so violently.


Yes, they are... and it's trump's fault.


No, it's the violent religious nutjobs' fault.

If anything, this just shows how poisonous religion is.


I agree. Religion is poisonous. Trump is also poisonous. I wish there was a way to magically make it so that religion and trump had never existed :/
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Kim Kusanagi
12/09/17 2:14:09 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
ABSOLUTELY NO ONE saw this coming.

You're a fucking moron, Donald Trump.


Yeah who would have known
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FLUFFYGERM
12/09/17 2:16:08 PM
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Wait so you guys think we should deny reality because terrorists will be upset otherwise? That's like saying we should all bend a knee to their religion, lest they blow us up or something.
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12/09/17 2:19:36 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
What a world we live in when people start blaming a person for the actions of others.

But at least half of the blame towards Bill, Bush, Obama and Hillary accounts for this.
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nicklebro
12/09/17 2:49:29 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Wait so you guys think we should deny reality because terrorists will be upset otherwise? That's like saying we should all bend a knee to their religion, lest they blow us up or something.

Wait, you're calling all Palestinians terrorists? Lol wow, bold move.
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_Goggalor_
12/09/17 2:50:19 PM
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Religion of peace.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/09/17 3:15:10 PM
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nicklebro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Wait so you guys think we should deny reality because terrorists will be upset otherwise? That's like saying we should all bend a knee to their religion, lest they blow us up or something.

Wait, you're calling all Palestinians terrorists? Lol wow, bold move.


Yeah, even Admiral has stated that calling all Palestinians terrorists would be absurd.
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Mal_Fet
12/09/17 3:21:17 PM
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Congress voted to move the embassy in 1995. Every president since had been delaying it every year; Trump only carried out what congress wanted to happen.

As for violence, there is literally no reason to be moved by what those people will and will not start killing each other over because the list is simply too long to feasibly avoid it. Maybe it's time for them to learn that they won't get their way anymore just because they're willing to blow themselves up over everything.
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Mal_Fet
12/09/17 3:22:45 PM
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FigureOfSpeech posted...
nicklebro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Wait so you guys think we should deny reality because terrorists will be upset otherwise? That's like saying we should all bend a knee to their religion, lest they blow us up or something.

Wait, you're calling all Palestinians terrorists? Lol wow, bold move.


Yeah, even Admiral has stated that calling all Palestinians terrorists would be absurd.

If people threaten violence over the US moving their embassy, they're terrorists. No fucking clue how you got "all Palestinians" out of that.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/09/17 3:29:24 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Congress voted to move the embassy in 1995. Every president since had been delaying it every year; Trump only carried out what congress wanted to happen.

As for violence, there is literally no reason to be moved by what those people will and will not start killing each other over because the list is simply too long to feasibly avoid it. Maybe it's time for them to learn that they won't get their way anymore just because they're willing to blow themselves up over everything.


Were you even alive in 1995?
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Mal_Fet
12/09/17 3:30:37 PM
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FigureOfSpeech posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Congress voted to move the embassy in 1995. Every president since had been delaying it every year; Trump only carried out what congress wanted to happen.

As for violence, there is literally no reason to be moved by what those people will and will not start killing each other over because the list is simply too long to feasibly avoid it. Maybe it's time for them to learn that they won't get their way anymore just because they're willing to blow themselves up over everything.


Were you even alive in 1995?

Yeah, were you?
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FigureOfSpeech
12/09/17 3:30:45 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
nicklebro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Wait so you guys think we should deny reality because terrorists will be upset otherwise? That's like saying we should all bend a knee to their religion, lest they blow us up or something.

Wait, you're calling all Palestinians terrorists? Lol wow, bold move.


Yeah, even Admiral has stated that calling all Palestinians terrorists would be absurd.

If people threaten violence over the US moving their embassy, they're terrorists. No fucking clue how you got "all Palestinians" out of that.


What do you mean by "you" in that post? Me? I didn't say it. Rofl. Lmao.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/09/17 3:31:20 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Congress voted to move the embassy in 1995. Every president since had been delaying it every year; Trump only carried out what congress wanted to happen.

As for violence, there is literally no reason to be moved by what those people will and will not start killing each other over because the list is simply too long to feasibly avoid it. Maybe it's time for them to learn that they won't get their way anymore just because they're willing to blow themselves up over everything.


Were you even alive in 1995?

Yeah, were you?


Most recent year I wasn't alive in was 1982.
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iamintents
12/09/17 3:32:22 PM
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what a fucking moron of a president
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metralo
12/09/17 3:33:04 PM
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>literally no reason to avoid senseless killing

yup, sounds like a trump supporter
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