Poll of the Day > lex Luther is just batman if he were a villain

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helIy
12/08/17 3:59:38 AM
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nt
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Mead
12/08/17 4:00:27 AM
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no hes bald
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helIy
12/08/17 4:01:24 AM
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he's more streamlined
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kislev
12/08/17 4:31:08 AM
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Close ur account
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Foppe
12/08/17 4:32:41 AM
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Superboy made Lex bald.
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SmokeMassTree
12/08/17 7:09:06 AM
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I can get behind this
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EvilMegas
12/08/17 7:22:02 AM
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Lex Luthor is the embodiment of greed, batman is the embodiment of justice
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Gamechamp3k
12/08/17 8:14:16 AM
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Lex can't do any flippy kicks, though.
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Noop_Noop
12/08/17 9:19:15 AM
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Member infinie crisis? Member when the Justice league were the bad guys and lex Luther was the last superhero on earth? Member when the earth was being destroyed so he sent his newborn son to krypton?
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helIy
12/08/17 10:15:33 AM
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EvilMegas posted...
Lex Luthor is the embodiment of greed, batman is the embodiment of justice

batman is the embodiment of insanity.

anyways, they're the same except lex can't do flippy karate
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SusanGreenEyes
12/08/17 10:20:09 AM
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Isn't Batman really just a billionaire who tortures the mentally ill?
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EvilMegas
12/08/17 11:40:58 AM
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helIy posted...
EvilMegas posted...
Lex Luthor is the embodiment of greed, batman is the embodiment of justice

batman is the embodiment of insanity.

anyways, they're the same except lex can't do flippy karate

He thats also why he is the most pure form of justice. He has the ability and opportunities to kill the joker, but he always leaves it in the hands of the law. It's not his duty to kill, its Gothams.
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SunWuKung420
12/08/17 12:30:28 PM
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How can Batman fight superman but only throw a spear 5 feet?
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wolfy42
12/08/17 1:08:00 PM
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Real fight, batman vs superman.

Batman goes into hiding, superman doesn't even know a fight is coming.

Batman identifies the unique radioactive signature of Superman due to being from a different planet. He creates a bullet that when fired will seek out and hit that signature.

He makes it out of kryptonite.

He monitors the news, or creatures a scenerio where superman will appear.

He fires the bullet at superman, and kills him, or at least knocks him out in serious pain from the bullet...which is meant to open and spread out once it makes contact (causing little shards of krypto to move throughout his body.

He recovers the body and dumps it in a vat of lead, which he then dumps into the marianous trench.

No more superman.
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SunWuKung420
12/08/17 1:09:03 PM
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Silent bullets?
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Zeus
12/08/17 1:20:29 PM
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No, he's not, by any stretch. The fact that two characters are rich and intelligent doesn't automatically make parallels. If Batman was a villain, he'd probably be more like the Red Hood seen in Batman: Under the Red Hood where he'd create order by controlling crime and executing anybody who got out of line. Or he'd be a Punisher-style vigilante with fewer moral boundaries (ie, willing to kill cops).

wolfy42 posted...
Real fight, batman vs superman.

Batman goes into hiding, superman doesn't even know a fight is coming.

Batman identifies the unique radioactive signature of Superman due to being from a different planet. He creates a bullet that when fired will seek out and hit that signature.

He makes it out of kryptonite.

He monitors the news, or creatures a scenerio where superman will appear.

He fires the bullet at superman, and kills him, or at least knocks him out in serious pain from the bullet...which is meant to open and spread out once it makes contact (causing little shards of krypto to move throughout his body.

He recovers the body and dumps it in a vat of lead, which he then dumps into the marianous trench.

No more superman.


That or he feeds it to Superman in some sort of a dissolving capsule which shields the effects until they're in his body. Or he deploys a kryptonite mist to drain him of his power.

SunWuKung420 posted...
Silent bullets?


Doesn't really need it since Superman usually just lets bullets hit him. If he didn't realize there was something different about the bullet, he wouldn't move. Keep in mind that Superman has been shot with a kryptonite bullet before.
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helIy
12/08/17 2:14:10 PM
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Zeus posted...
The fact that two characters are rich and intelligent doesn't automatically make parallels.

lex is literally just a bald batman dude

supermans greatest villain is a a batless batman.
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Blightzkrieg
12/08/17 2:17:23 PM
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Sometimes writers draw specific parallels, but I'd hardly call that his default. Of course Batman's typical portrayal varies wildly as well.

BvS Batman is definitely a Lex Luthor parallel for instance (though strangely not to the Lex in that film).
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ernieforss
12/08/17 2:21:00 PM
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did you read Mark Millar's Nemesis.
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ParanoidObsessive
12/08/17 2:48:26 PM
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helIy posted...
lex Luther is just batman if he were a villain

In some ways Lex is technically the better person of the two. Lex's ideology (admittedly fueled by his own egotism and pride) is that humans are better than aliens and freaks. Batman's ideology is that someone murdered his parents decades ago, so now he has to go around beating the shit out of people. On some level, every single thug he beats up is just an echo of Joe Chill. Every single punch he throws is the punch he wishes he could have thrown that fateful night.

And if anything, Batman is WAY more cynical than Lex is. As far as we know, Lex never sits around thinking up contingency plans to murder his friends and loved ones if they ever go "bad".

Plus, Lex is a member of the Justice League at the moment, so he's technically a hero himself.



EvilMegas posted...
Lex Luthor is the embodiment of greed, batman is the embodiment of justice

Not really. Lex is more the embodiment of ego, while Batman is the embodiment of vengeance.

The thing to keep in mind about Batman is that he literally breaks the law with every single thing he does. He views himself as above the law in nearly every way, and his one concession to "justice" is his "I won't kill" rule (and even that could be more pragmatism than justice - ie, cops are far more likely to try and arrest a vigilante who kills than one who doesn't).

Like I alluded to above, Batman isn't a man dedicated to justice and upholding the law. He's a scared child lashing out because his parents are dead. In a way, he's reliving that night over and over again in his mind every time he puts the suit on, and every villain he beats the shit out of is a surrogate for the one person he can never really get revenge on.

Yes, he JUSTIFIES it in his own mind as "I have to make sure that no one else ever suffers the way I did" (which also isn't "justice" as a motivation, by the way), but ultimately, it's not about those people, or about protecting or defending or upholding the law. It's about little Bruce. It's ALWAYS been about little Bruce.



ernieforss posted...
did you read Mark Millar's Nemesis.

No one should ever read anything Mark Millar writes.


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ZiggiStardust
12/08/17 2:51:56 PM
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this is the dumbest thing i've read today, thanks tc, ok?
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EvilMegas
12/08/17 3:50:24 PM
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PO, come on. We both know Lex is always thinking of ways to kill everyone hes met.
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