Poll of the Day > Is, umm, LA on fire right now?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Reddit goin' nuts!
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Not all of LA, just where the Fresh Prince is from.
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on CNN i saw there are 4 seperate fires in california right now. it's pretty insane

Those videos are pretty fucking intense...it's been the worst year for wildfires I believe.
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California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxoD9zWY9Rg

RCtheWSBC posted...

Those videos are pretty fucking intense...it's been the worst year for wildfires I believe.

We need stricter fire control laws!
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Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

This. Farmers take 90% the water, waste half of it, then demand that the cities of millions cut their 10% use in half or face fines...
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aDirtyShisno posted...

Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

This. Farmers take 90% the water, waste half of it, then demand that the cities of millions cut their 10% use in half or face fines...

Damn vegans
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Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

we are having insane wind here. any place that has dry wind like this would be on fire right now.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

aDirtyShisno posted...

Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

This. Farmers take 90% the water, waste half of it, then demand that the cities of millions cut their 10% use in half or face fines...

Damn vegans

Many dairy producers in dry areas are are switching to things like almonds because as much water as those need to grow, dairy requires a lot more water.
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We're used to it.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

we are having insane wind here. any place that has dry wind like this would be on fire right now.

Californians are dumb.

Its like if people built their house on a swamp then complained that the swamp smelled like methane all the time.

Totally bourgeois.

Oh, and the earthquakes? YOU BUILT YOUR CITY ON/NEAR ONE OF THE LARGEST FAULT LINES IN THE WORLD WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING!?!?

Its like city folk don't understand nature doesn't care what you think, lol.
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bulbinking posted...

Oh, and the earthquakes? YOU BUILT YOUR CITY ON/NEAR ONE OF THE LARGEST FAULT LINES IN THE WORLD WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING!?!?

To be fair, people didnt know about fault lines when the city first started to be built
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bulbinking posted...

DirtBasedSoap posted...

Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

we are having insane wind here. any place that has dry wind like this would be on fire right now.

Californians are dumb.

Its like if people built their house on a swamp then complained that the swamp smelled like methane all the time.

Totally bourgeois.

Oh, and the earthquakes? YOU BUILT YOUR CITY ON/NEAR ONE OF THE LARGEST FAULT LINES IN THE WORLD WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING!?!?

Its like city folk don't understand nature doesn't care what you think, lol.

Ridiculous post of the day. Lol

Doctor Foxx posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

aDirtyShisno posted...

Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

This. Farmers take 90% the water, waste half of it, then demand that the cities of millions cut their 10% use in half or face fines...

Damn vegans

Many dairy producers in dry areas are are switching to things like almonds because as much water as those need to grow, dairy requires a lot more water.

Source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUR9mvTBeA

OmegaTomHank posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

aDirtyShisno posted...

Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

This. Farmers take 90% the water, waste half of it, then demand that the cities of millions cut their 10% use in half or face fines...

Damn vegans

Many dairy producers in dry areas are are switching to things like almonds because as much water as those need to grow, dairy requires a lot more water.

Source

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2015/oct/21/almond-milk-quite-good-for-you-very-bad-for-the-planet

Oh nooooo, it says the opposite thing!
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LA is always on fire. Nothing new. Next question.
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bulbinking posted...

DirtBasedSoap posted...

Zeus posted...

California is always on fire these days. The state's massive agricultural industry puts a tremendous strain on its water.

we are having insane wind here. any place that has dry wind like this would be on fire right now.

Californians are dumb.

Its like if people built their house on a swamp then complained that the swamp smelled like methane all the time.

Totally bourgeois.

Oh, and the earthquakes? YOU BUILT YOUR CITY ON/NEAR ONE OF THE LARGEST FAULT LINES IN THE WORLD WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING!?!?

Its like city folk don't understand nature doesn't care what you think, lol.

fuck you, youre dumb.
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jbomb1234 posted...

LA is always on fire. Nothing new. Next question.

no it isnt
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Lokarin posted...

Don't text and drive, brah!
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bulbinking posted...

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2015/oct/21/almond-milk-quite-good-for-you-very-bad-for-the-planet

Oh nooooo, it says the opposite thing!

And this says the opposite of that

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/food/2014/07/almond_milk_bad_for_environment_tom_philpott_and_mother_jones_are_wrong.html

Do almonds have an intense ecological footprint? Most of the concern about almonds effect on the environment has to do with the amount of water they require. According to Mother Jones, it takes 1.1 gallons of water to grow a single almond. Thats quite a bit, but not as much as it takes to grow a tomato (3.3 gallons) or a single walnut (4.9 gallons). Like many food crops, almonds make particularly heavy ecological demands on one particular part of the country: drought-stricken California. As Eric Holthaus recently discussed in Slate, 99 percent of U.S. almondsand almost 80 percent of the worlds almondsare grown in California, where they absorb an astounding 10 percent of the states total water supply each year. But as Holthaus points out, meat and dairythe dairy you might be drinking if you werent consuming almond milkrequire an order of magnitude more water to produce than almonds.

By weight almonds take about 4x the water required to produce them than dairy does.

However, commercial almond milk is only around 2% almonds by weight at most. Cow's milk is 100% no matter the volume. So it's still significantly less water required all around.

1 pound of almond milk needs only 8 almonds to produce (so 8 gallons of water plus another 2 cups for the milk). Cow's milk requires 90 gallons of fresh water for the same pound of product.



California produces a lot more dairy than almonds. Are almonds a water blight? Fuck yeah they are. What's worse is dairy, and livestock take over 50% of California's water usage each year for their feed alone. The actual amount including the water cows drink and water needed to clean up on farms is more on top of that.
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So the moral of the story is it would be good for the planet if you just stopped existing or starve to death.

Ya but, butter
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dedbus posted...

So the moral of the story is it would be good for the planet if you just stopped existing or starve to death.

Or at the very least cut back on the animal products in a big way. Since those are all by far the worst offenders out there for greenhouse gasses and water use.
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Bel air is French btw, meaning literally 'beautiful air'.
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Lokarin posted...

Ya but, butter

A pound of butter is equal to over 3 pounds of almonds for water required and off the charts worse for environmental pollution.

I loved butter but I gave that up
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It's not just food that we get from those animals tho

Almonds are only food

And that infographic is clearly biased.

We only get pork form pigs? Wrong
We only get hamburger meat from cows? Wrong
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Lokarin posted...

Ya but, butter

A pound of butter is equal to over 3 pounds of almonds for water required and off the charts worse for environmental pollution.

I loved butter but I gave that up

Well, I meant in response to the meat comment - I don't usually eat butter in general, I use mostly cheap margarine and very little in general unless i'm baking.
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Making me think of Fort Mac, but alot worse, as that was what 10,000 people for there, this is on the doorstep of over 10,000,000 people
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SmokeMassTree posted...

It's not just food that we get from those animals tho

Almonds are only food

What else do you get? Leather? No that's from specialty cows, primarily in India. Feedlot and dairy cattle byproduct ends up as food for pets, food for other livestock, and bone meal for growing.

Almonds have many uses with their by-products. Husks used to just be cheap cattle feed (so all that almond water usage went right back to cattle anyway). Now there's a lot more being done with them. And it's all significantly better for the environment. I've purchased nut shell cat litter before.

http://www.westernfarmpress.com/tree-nuts/research-focuses-alternate-uses-almond-byproducts

http://www.westernfarmpress.com/tree-nuts/8-facts-about-almonds-agriculture-and-drought

SmokeMassTree posted...

And that infographic is clearly biased.

We only get pork form pigs? Wrong
We only get hamburger meat from cows? Wrong

Please explain what else you get from them

That's per pound of meat, it doesn't necessarily need to be hamburger.

You don't just get almonds from almond trees, so what is your point

http://huffingtonpost.ca/entry/food-water-footprint_n_5952862
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SmokeMassTree posted...

We only get pork form pigs? Wrong

where else does pork come from ??

Doctor Foxx posted...

bulbinking posted...

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2015/oct/21/almond-milk-quite-good-for-you-very-bad-for-the-planet

Oh nooooo, it says the opposite thing!

And this says the opposite of that

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/food/2014/07/almond_milk_bad_for_environment_tom_philpott_and_mother_jones_are_wrong.html

Do almonds have an intense ecological footprint? Most of the concern about almonds effect on the environment has to do with the amount of water they require. According to Mother Jones, it takes 1.1 gallons of water to grow a single almond. Thats quite a bit, but not as much as it takes to grow a tomato (3.3 gallons) or a single walnut (4.9 gallons). Like many food crops, almonds make particularly heavy ecological demands on one particular part of the country: drought-stricken California. As Eric Holthaus recently discussed in Slate, 99 percent of U.S. almondsand almost 80 percent of the worlds almondsare grown in California, where they absorb an astounding 10 percent of the states total water supply each year. But as Holthaus points out, meat and dairythe dairy you might be drinking if you werent consuming almond milkrequire an order of magnitude more water to produce than almonds.

By weight almonds take about 4x the water required to produce them than dairy does.

However, commercial almond milk is only around 2% almonds by weight at most. Cow's milk is 100% no matter the volume. So it's still significantly less water required all around.

1 pound of almond milk needs only 8 almonds to produce (so 8 gallons of water plus another 2 cups for the milk). Cow's milk requires 90 gallons of fresh water for the same pound of product.



California produces a lot more dairy than almonds. Are almonds a water blight? Fuck yeah they are. What's worse is dairy, and livestock take over 50% of California's water usage each year for their feed alone. The actual amount including the water cows drink and water needed to clean up on farms is more on top of that.

Then why do we raise so much beef? It's a cowspiracy!
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Zeus posted...

Then why do we raise so much beef?

Cuz beef tastes a lot better than almonds
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Everything I've seen of those fires is intensely bad. This isn't even normal fire season.

Hoping everyone can stay safe
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Zeus posted...

Then why do we raise so much beef? It's a cowspiracy!

https://68.media.tumblr.com/9b9832c2484ea5f6887837b0d2f080f0/tumblr_nt68s5hONN1s2wio8o2_r1_500.gif

Doctor Foxx posted...

dedbus posted...

So the moral of the story is it would be good for the planet if you just stopped existing or starve to death.

Or at the very least cut back on the animal products in a big way. Since those are all by far the worst offenders out there for greenhouse gasses and water use.

Tell our fast food and casual chain dinining industry to cut back on animal products. I guarantee you americans arent stocking their shopping carts with slabs of meat from the butcher every week!
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Doctor Foxx posted...

dedbus posted...

So the moral of the story is it would be good for the planet if you just stopped existing or starve to death.

Or at the very least cut back on the animal products in a big way. Since those are all by far the worst offenders out there for greenhouse gasses and water use.

so what you're saying is we need to eat more meat, faster, to make less animals
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bulbinking posted...

Tell our fast food and casual chain dinining industry to cut back on animal products. I guarantee you americans arent stocking their shopping carts with slabs of meat from the butcher every week!

Haha what. Yeah they are. Average American consumes 120kg of meat a year and over 250kg dairy products (incidentally only about 1kg of almonds). Maybe not meat from the butcher, but their Walmart meat department or wherever they go for it. Americans overconsume these things on their own, at more than three times the global average for meat, not just through fast food.

fast food/casual dining is going that way. Takes time. Needs to happen to help protect areas fighting with drought while they deal with animal husbandry.

helIy posted...

so what you're saying is we need to eat more meat, faster, to make less animals

We could start by eating the humans that think this, or feeding them to fish

Then figure the rest out. It may be mostly sorted by then.

Anyway this guy got caught rescuing a scared animal from the fire aww


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that guy saving the rabbit breaks my heart. i grew up in Ventura county, too
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Dikitain posted...

Not all of LA, just where the Fresh Prince is from.

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Frisk posted...

Dikitain posted...

Not all of LA, just where the Fresh Prince is from.

Ventura isn't part of Los Angeles and the fire there is far worse than Bel-Air.
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bulbinking posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

dedbus posted...

So the moral of the story is it would be good for the planet if you just stopped existing or starve to death.

Or at the very least cut back on the animal products in a big way. Since those are all by far the worst offenders out there for greenhouse gasses and water use.

Tell our fast food and casual chain dinining industry to cut back on animal products. I guarantee you americans arent stocking their shopping carts with slabs of meat from the butcher every week!

Those nuggets and patties are already 50 percent particle board already.

DeltaBladeX posted...

severely underrated video
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Some say the end is near...some say we'll see Armageddon soon. Certainly hope we will, I sure could use a vacation from this bullshit, three ring, circus, sideshow, of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A. The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time, any fucking day.

Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bay
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