Current Events > So, I hear SCOTUS is going to uphold the muslim ban

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Balrog0
12/04/17 4:39:49 PM
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http://www.abc15.com/news/national/supreme-court-allows-full-enforcement-of-trump-travel-ban

The Supreme Court is allowing the Trump administration to fully enforce a ban on travel to the United States by residents of six mostly Muslim countries.

The justices, with two dissenting votes, said Monday that the policy can take full effect even as legal challenges against it make their way through the courts. The action suggests the high court could uphold the latest version of the ban that Trump announced in September.

The ban applies to travelers from Chad, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria and Yemen. Lower courts had said people from those nations with a claim of a "bona fide" relationship with someone in the United States could not be kept out of the country. Grandparents, cousins and other relatives were among those courts said could not be excluded.

Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor would have left the lower court orders in place.

The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, will be holding arguments on the legality of the ban this week.

Both courts are dealing with the issue on an accelerated basis, and the Supreme Court noted it expects those courts to reach decisions "with appropriate dispatch."

Quick resolution by appellate courts would allow the Supreme Court to hear and decide the issue this term, by the end of June.

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Kaname_Madoka
12/04/17 4:40:17 PM
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Whenever I read SCOTUS i think scrotum. What does it even stand for?
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Kamala_Harris
12/04/17 4:41:06 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Whenever I read SCOTUS i think scrotum. What does it even stand for?


Supreme Court of the United States

you dummy >_>
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 4:41:07 PM
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Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.
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Kaname_Madoka
12/04/17 4:41:33 PM
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Kamala_Harris posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Whenever I read SCOTUS i think scrotum. What does it even stand for?


Supreme Court of the United States

you dummy >_>

I don't live in America so how would I know. But thanks
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Balrog0
12/04/17 4:42:48 PM
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-travel-ban-20171204-story.html
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Balrog0
12/04/17 4:44:12 PM
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basically, I was wrong, not quite that they upheld it
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/04/17 4:45:10 PM
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It's almost like something that was pretty clearly evidently outlined in the Constitution on the powers of the President is actual Constitutional . . .shhhhocking. Fucking partisan idiots. Been saying this for 6 months, this isn't the hill to die on. /repostfrompolitics
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REMercsChamp
12/04/17 4:46:16 PM
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I love how you unintelligently frame this as a muslim ban when it's actually a travel ban.

These countries happen to be mostly muslim. And what about the dozens of other muslim majority countries that weren't banned?
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Balrog0
12/04/17 4:47:05 PM
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unintelligent shitposting is what I do @REMercsChamp
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/04/17 4:48:58 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
I love how you unintelligently frame this as a muslim ban when it's actually a travel ban.


Has this not been the strategy for the last 8 months on this ban?
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Villain
12/04/17 4:50:12 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
I love how you unintelligently frame this as a muslim ban when it's actually a travel ban.

These countries happen to be mostly muslim. And what about the dozens of other muslim majority countries that weren't banned?


Too bad Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban huh
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frozenshock
12/04/17 4:51:00 PM
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The scrotum of the united states

Also known as the supreme court

It used to be an elegant dining room with candles and everything

Now it's a scrotum

How do you get from elegant dining room to scrotum
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Giant_Aspirin
12/04/17 4:51:51 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in
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KhlavicLanguage
12/04/17 4:52:09 PM
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That's a lot of genius-ass Iranian grad students who'll be studying (and largely settling) in countries other than this one, then. I'm glad the Trump administration and base have such a strong policy against educated high-earners coming here.
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frozenshock
12/04/17 4:52:23 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in


Well not those that have oil anyway
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KazumaKiryu
12/04/17 4:52:27 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in


Yep, those would all be good.
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frozenshock
12/04/17 4:53:16 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
That's a lot of genius-ass Iranian grad students who'll be studying (and largely settling) in countries other than this one, then. I'm glad the Trump administration and base have such a strong policy against educated high-earners coming here.


They don't give a poopie honestly. The only thing they care about is getting re-elected. If they burn the country to the ground they can just blame democrats
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/04/17 4:54:09 PM
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Villain posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
I love how you unintelligently frame this as a muslim ban when it's actually a travel ban.

These countries happen to be mostly muslim. And what about the dozens of other muslim majority countries that weren't banned?


Too bad Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban huh


And? His Order isn't a Muslim ban. Is any executive order unconstitutional because he campaigned on an unconstitutional promise or wouldn't only an order that fulfills that promise be unconstitutional?
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ChainedRedone
12/04/17 4:57:55 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
I love how you unintelligently frame this as a muslim ban when it's actually a travel ban.

These countries happen to be mostly muslim. And what about the dozens of other muslim majority countries that weren't banned?


Trump was just kidding when he said Muslim ban. Glad we agree he's unintelligent.
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Villain
12/04/17 4:57:59 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Villain posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
I love how you unintelligently frame this as a muslim ban when it's actually a travel ban.

These countries happen to be mostly muslim. And what about the dozens of other muslim majority countries that weren't banned?


Too bad Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban huh


And? His Order isn't a Muslim ban. Is any executive order unconstitutional because he campaigned on an unconstitutional promise or wouldn't only an order that fulfills that promise be unconstitutional?


The courts are interpreting it as one due to his previous statements. It isn't hard to see how they've come to this conclusion.
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P4wn4g3
12/04/17 5:17:25 PM
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So what's the legal process to set things to normal when all three branches are the bitch of the Republicans?
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_RETS_
12/04/17 5:19:24 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in


It's Obama's list of countries. Does Trump have business dealings in every single majority Muslim country not on the list?
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ChainedRedone
12/04/17 5:21:16 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in


It's Obama's list of countries. Does Trump have business dealings in every single majority Muslim country not on the list?


It's a silly copout to say, "Obama did the same thing!" Anyone who isn't braindead realizes he wants the majority of Muslim countries banned. He just had to settle for less because his intentions were unconstitutional.
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_RETS_
12/04/17 5:22:03 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in


It's Obama's list of countries. Does Trump have business dealings in every single majority Muslim country not on the list?


It's a silly copout to say, "Obama did the same thing!" Anyone who isn't braindead realizes he wants the majority of Muslim countries banned. He just had to settle for less because his intentions were unconstitutional.


Proof of anything you just said?
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ChainedRedone
12/04/17 5:24:19 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in


It's Obama's list of countries. Does Trump have business dealings in every single majority Muslim country not on the list?


It's a silly copout to say, "Obama did the same thing!" Anyone who isn't braindead realizes he wants the majority of Muslim countries banned. He just had to settle for less because his intentions were unconstitutional.


Proof of anything you just said?


The fact of the initial Muslim ban? Do you really need someone to spoon-feed you the obvious fact that he settled for less because his previous attempts were blocked?
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MLGSerperior111
12/04/17 5:25:15 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Whenever I read SCOTUS i think scrotum

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_RETS_
12/04/17 5:26:11 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Excellent, hope they add more countries to it too.


you mean like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan or the UAE? you know, the countries that actually fund radical Islamic terrorism?

just kidding, Trump would never ban a country he has business dealings in


It's Obama's list of countries. Does Trump have business dealings in every single majority Muslim country not on the list?


It's a silly copout to say, "Obama did the same thing!" Anyone who isn't braindead realizes he wants the majority of Muslim countries banned. He just had to settle for less because his intentions were unconstitutional.


Proof of anything you just said?


The fact of the initial Muslim ban? Do you really need someone to spoon-feed you the obvious fact that he settled for less because his previous attempts were blocked?


How many countries were on the initial list?
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ChainedRedone
12/04/17 5:28:28 PM
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Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.
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_RETS_
12/04/17 5:31:00 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?
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ChainedRedone
12/04/17 5:48:56 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?


The proof that he wants all Muslims banned are from his own words. "We need to stop Muslims from entering our countries until we can figure out what is going on"
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_RETS_
12/04/17 5:52:46 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?


The proof that he wants all Muslims banned are from his own words. "We need to stop Muslims from entering our countries until we can figure out what is going on"


Cool, then you should have no problem linking that.
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Villain
12/04/17 5:56:09 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxozK6Bpvk


Either you guys are trolling or are willfully stupid.
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CableZL
12/04/17 5:56:27 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?


The proof that he wants all Muslims banned are from his own words. "We need to stop Muslims from entering our countries until we can figure out what is going on"


Cool, then you should have no problem linking that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxozK6Bpvk


This is what he's referencing.
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Tmaster148
12/04/17 5:58:53 PM
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Is this the original ban or the one that was changed due to the courts?
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CableZL
12/04/17 5:59:13 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Is this the original ban or the one that was changed due to the courts?


It's the one that was changed.
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_RETS_
12/04/17 6:00:21 PM
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CableZL posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?


The proof that he wants all Muslims banned are from his own words. "We need to stop Muslims from entering our countries until we can figure out what is going on"


Cool, then you should have no problem linking that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxozK6Bpvk


This is what he's referencing.


Great, and where is the issue with reviewing immigration vetting standards and narrowing down from there?
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Tmaster148
12/04/17 6:01:06 PM
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CableZL posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Is this the original ban or the one that was changed due to the courts?


It's the one that was changed.


Then I'm not surprised, because I'm pretty sure the changes originated from SCOTUS to begin with.
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Howl
12/04/17 6:01:20 PM
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How many times is Trump gonna win? This guy is just too good man. Feels great.
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CableZL
12/04/17 6:02:46 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
Great, and where is the issue with reviewing immigration vetting standards and narrowing down from there?


I believe the argument from the lower courts is that Trump wasn't "reviewing immigration vetting standards and narrowing down from there," but just looking to ban Muslims, largely based on his repeated calls for a Muslim ban during his campaign.
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hockeybub89
12/04/17 6:04:15 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
CableZL posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?


The proof that he wants all Muslims banned are from his own words. "We need to stop Muslims from entering our countries until we can figure out what is going on"


Cool, then you should have no problem linking that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxozK6Bpvk


This is what he's referencing.


Great, and where is the issue with reviewing immigration vetting standards and narrowing down from there?

But we aren't reviewing the vetting standards of some of the biggest terrorist hotbeds in the world that have committed acts on US soil.
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_RETS_
12/04/17 6:05:18 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
CableZL posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?


The proof that he wants all Muslims banned are from his own words. "We need to stop Muslims from entering our countries until we can figure out what is going on"


Cool, then you should have no problem linking that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxozK6Bpvk


This is what he's referencing.


Great, and where is the issue with reviewing immigration vetting standards and narrowing down from there?

But we aren't reviewing the vetting standards of some of the biggest terrorist hotbeds in the world that have committed acts on US soil.


Because SA has been cooperative and has processes in place to account for their citizens.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/04/17 6:13:08 PM
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Imagine if any anti-gun legislation was struck down simply because the Dem campaigned on gun control, and a Judge interpreted that as "fuck the 2nd amendment".
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Howl
12/04/17 6:15:25 PM
#44:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Imagine if any anti-gun legislation was struck down simply because the Dem campaigned on gun control, and a Judge interpreted that as "fuck the 2nd amendment".


Well that would be the correct interpretation so I don't see how that would be a problem.
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ChainedRedone
12/04/17 7:02:28 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
CableZL posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Instead of having me spoon-feed you information, why don't you make a point. I don't see the relevance of that question anyway.


You said he wanted the majority of muslim countries banned and your "proof" of that was the initial ban proposal. So were the majority of Muslim countries on the initial ban?


The proof that he wants all Muslims banned are from his own words. "We need to stop Muslims from entering our countries until we can figure out what is going on"


Cool, then you should have no problem linking that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxozK6Bpvk


This is what he's referencing.


Great, and where is the issue with reviewing immigration vetting standards and narrowing down from there?


I never said that in itself is a problem. Try reading my posts again.
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Alucard188
12/04/17 7:03:46 PM
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SCOTUS sounds a lot like scrotum.
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The Great Muta 22
12/04/17 7:07:38 PM
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_RETS_ posted...

Because SA has been cooperative and has processes in place to account for their citizens


LMAO if you actually believe them. Jesus how big of a hack are you
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_RETS_
12/04/17 7:12:00 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...

Because SA has been cooperative and has processes in place to account for their citizens


LMAO if you actually believe them. Jesus how big of a hack are you


Processes vs. No processes. Was S.A. on Obama's list?
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The Great Muta 22
12/04/17 7:13:43 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...

Because SA has been cooperative and has processes in place to account for their citizens


LMAO if you actually believe them. Jesus how big of a hack are you


Processes vs. No processes. Was S.A. on Obama's list?


That has nothing to do with trusting or believing S.A.
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MaverickXeo
12/04/17 7:14:06 PM
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Villain posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
I love how you unintelligently frame this as a muslim ban when it's actually a travel ban.

These countries happen to be mostly muslim. And what about the dozens of other muslim majority countries that weren't banned?


Too bad Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban huh


He could be as bad as Trudeau, who welcomes ISIS fighters back with hopes they will 're-evaluate' their lives and leave the ISIS support behind...
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