Current Events > Trump to declare Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel: not Tel Aviv

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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/01/trump-jerusalem-israel-capital-274462

President Donald Trump and his senior aides are preparing for a Wednesday announcement that the United States recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, according to a senior administration official.

The official said the specifics of the announcement are still in flux, adding that the White House is considering having Trump unveil the plan during a speech at the National Defense University in Washington.

The move, coupled with plans under consideration to eventually move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, could complicate efforts by Trumps son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner to restart peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Trump promised as a candidate to move the embassy, a longstanding concern of some American Jews and evangelical voters. He deferred taking such a step in June, signing a waiver in order to give Kushner time to work on his peace plan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem

Jerusalem is one of the key issues in the IsraeliPalestinian peace process. Both Israelis and the Palestinians want it as their capital.[5]

The United Nations General Assembly does not recognize Israel's proclamation of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which is, for example, reflected in the wording of General Assembly Resolution 63/30 of 2009 which states that "any actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration on the Holy City of Jerusalem are illegal and therefore null and void and have no validity whatsoever, and calls upon Israel to cease all such illegal and unilateral measures."[30]

Palestine isn't going to like this...
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i don't think that's up to him to decide
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@ROBANN_88 posted...

i don't think that's up to him to decide

who is it up to then?
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Trump is the best at politics.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Palestine isn't going to like this...

It will never stop baffling me how the people who claim to be supportive of oppressed minorities like women and LGBT people are generally in favor of Palestine over Israel.
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Well fuck, doesn't Aviv deserve to know?
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Fair, next
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Why is this good?
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emblem boy posted...

Why is this good?

Because Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
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emblem boy posted...

Why is this good?

It's good if you're a Zionist.
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Cool.
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Mal_Fet posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

Palestine isn't going to like this...

It will never stop baffling me how the people who claim to be supportive of oppressed minorities like women and LGBT people are generally in favor of Palestine over Israel.

Mal says something dumb; water is wet; sky blue etc etc
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Great news, back to it's rightful owner. Screw Palestine.
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Um... shouldn't we ask Israel first?

emblem boy posted...

Why is this good?

It's not really. In fact it will likely cause more harm than good

Can't wait for the next terrorist attack, then!

/angrysarcasm

What is this even accomplishing other than waving his dick around? Are we "reaffirming" our relationship with Israel, whom we basically have on a leash? Are we bridging political anxiety in the region? Are we ingratiating ourself to the international community? What the fuck is the end game? What is the reward?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Um... shouldn't we ask Israel first?

Israel says it is their Captial already.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Can't wait for the next terrorist attack, then!

Oh right because they've been holding back this whole time and needed another excuse . .
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Um... shouldn't we ask Israel first?

Israel says it is their Captial already.

Then what's the point of disagreeing?

Questionmarktarius posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Um... shouldn't we ask Israel first?

Israel says it is their Captial already.

Then what's the point of disagreeing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem

Jerusalem is one of the key issues in the IsraeliPalestinian peace process. Both Israelis and the Palestinians want it as their capital.[5]

The United Nations General Assembly does not recognize Israel's proclamation of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which is, for example, reflected in the wording of General Assembly Resolution 63/30 of 2009 which states that "any actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration on the Holy City of Jerusalem are illegal and therefore null and void and have no validity whatsoever, and calls upon Israel to cease all such illegal and unilateral measures."[30]

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So it's the UN being meddlesome dicks again. I see.

Pogo_Marimo posted...

whom we basically have on a leash?

From what I'm seeing it's more like Israel has us as a meatshield/diplomatic patsy.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Pogo_Marimo posted...

Can't wait for the next terrorist attack, then!

Oh right because they've been holding back this whole time and needed another excuse . .

Can you not see how shit like this is used to radicalize terrorists to act?
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Note: Most Americans, and most American Jews, oppose this
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Most-American-Jews-do-not-want-Trump-to-move-US-embassy-to-Jerusalem-survey-says-504997
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000159-f6e7-da98-a77d-f6f7cba90001
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Antifar posted...

Note: Most Americans, and most American Jews, oppose this
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Most-American-Jews-do-not-want-Trump-to-move-US-embassy-to-Jerusalem-survey-says-504997
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000159-f6e7-da98-a77d-f6f7cba90001

It's a dumb idea, mostly because it would be an easier target in Jerusalem.

Questionmarktarius posted...

So it's the UN being meddlesome dicks again. I see.

Go read up on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

So it's the UN being meddlesome dicks again. I see.

Go read up on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

I don't understand the lesson I'm supposed to learn. There doesn't seem to be any mention of Jerusalem.

Questionmarktarius posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

So it's the UN being meddlesome dicks again. I see.

Go read up on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

I don't understand the lesson I'm supposed to learn. There doesn't seem to be any mention of Jerusalem.

lol

Jerusalem is mentioned several times.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Jerusalem is mentioned several times.

...goddamn firefox control-f.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Antifar posted...

Note: Most Americans, and most American Jews, oppose this
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Most-American-Jews-do-not-want-Trump-to-move-US-embassy-to-Jerusalem-survey-says-504997
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000159-f6e7-da98-a77d-f6f7cba90001

It's a dumb idea, mostly because it would be an easier target in Jerusalem.

You know what it says to terrorists when we will give them what they want if they threaten to do enough violence? It will encourage them to continue threatening violence.

Perhaps what they need is a firm backhand when they use violence, and doing things they DON'T want in response. Perhaps that will encourage them to stop being violent assholes.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Can't wait for the next terrorist attack, then!

/angrysarcasm

What is this even accomplishing other than waving his dick around? Are we "reaffirming" our relationship with Israel, whom we basically have on a leash? Are we bridging political anxiety in the region? Are we ingratiating ourself to the international community? What the fuck is the end game? What is the reward?

I think youre looking too much into it. The big dumb idiot thinks swinging his dick around is whats been missing from delicate foreign situations.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Are we "reaffirming" our relationship with Israel, whom we basically have on a leash?

*cough* Other way around *cough*
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idk why the united states needs to be involved tbh. if israel wants to do this they should do it, if not they shouldn't
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Palestine wants all of Jerusalem plus all of what is Israel. Lol.
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Good.

masticatingman posted...

Palestine wants all of Jerusalem plus all of what is Israel. Lol.

I mean they literally used the UN to illegally occupy the land that most of them didn't even live in for generations. It's like how Americans displaced and murdered native Americans.
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gunplagirl posted...

masticatingman posted...

Palestine wants all of Jerusalem plus all of what is Israel. Lol.

I mean they literally used the UN to illegally occupy the land that most of them didn't even live in for generations. It's like how Americans displaced and murdered native Americans.

most land in the world has been taken from one group by another, this is nothing new. they legally own the land known as israel now and palestine seeks genocide so they aren't exactly a sympathetic lot
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ColdOne666 posted...

Great news, back to it's rightful owner. Screw Palestine.

Why are you Islamaphobic?
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End times flag
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andel posted...

gunplagirl posted...

masticatingman posted...

Palestine wants all of Jerusalem plus all of what is Israel. Lol.

I mean they literally used the UN to illegally occupy the land that most of them didn't even live in for generations. It's like how Americans displaced and murdered native Americans.

most land in the world has been taken from one group by another, this is nothing new. they legally own the land known as israel now and palestine seeks genocide so they aren't exactly a sympathetic lot

Except they acquire it through war or treaties, not by having other nations go in and do the dirty work for them. And then there's the whole wall thing and how Palestinians aren't allowed into holy places or most of the city if at all.

But hey, go ahead and say that their anger is unjustified when it happened in living memory. (Aka some of the literal displaced people still live) most just want their homes back or, you know, for their countrymen to not be forced into ghettos where there's missiles lobbed into it every few days and to actually have access to clean water and electricity on a reliable basis. The "genocide" spin is so totally wrong, it's a very limited portion of them and even then most don't act on it because there's still kids being arrested and killed for throwing pebbles at heavily armored tanks.

Meanwhile Israel has netanyahu literally calling for a genocide and given his position, and his approval ratings? Well.
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Jerusalem is the capital of Israel though
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Rob Cesternino posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Great news, back to it's rightful owner. Screw Palestine.

Why are you Islamaphobic?

He is pro Israel not anti Muslim

Palestine would just be same old same old for the Middle East. At least Israel contributes to the world in positive ways thru innovation. Gimme a break about stealing land - Islam spread almost entirely via conquering and stealing land. Ask the Iberian peninsula.
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CreekCo posted...

End times flag

Nah. I am pretty sure the sign of end times is peace in that area.
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gunplagirl posted...

andel posted...

gunplagirl posted...

masticatingman posted...

Palestine wants all of Jerusalem plus all of what is Israel. Lol.

I mean they literally used the UN to illegally occupy the land that most of them didn't even live in for generations. It's like how Americans displaced and murdered native Americans.

most land in the world has been taken from one group by another, this is nothing new. they legally own the land known as israel now and palestine seeks genocide so they aren't exactly a sympathetic lot

Except they acquire it through war or treaties, not by having other nations go in and do the dirty work for them. And then there's the whole wall thing and how Palestinians aren't allowed into holy places or most of the city if at all.

But hey, go ahead and say that their anger is unjustified when it happened in living memory. (Aka some of the literal displaced people still live) most just want their homes back or, you know, for their countrymen to not be forced into ghettos where there's missiles lobbed into it every few days and to actually have access to clean water and electricity on a reliable basis. The "genocide" spin is so totally wrong, it's a very limited portion of them and even then most don't act on it because there's still kids being arrested and killed for throwing pebbles at heavily armored tanks.

Meanwhile Israel has netanyahu literally calling for a genocide and given his position, and his approval ratings? Well.

palestine is synonymous with hamas, a terrorist organization. i do think israel is often too heavy handed but the entire region wants complete genocide of jewish people and israel is historically a nation of jewish people anyway.

you can be sympathetic to the plight of palestinians to a degree but they choose blatant terrorists to lead them and routinely launch rockets and the like at israel
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Can't wait for the next terrorist attack, then!

/angrysarcasm

What is this even accomplishing other than waving his dick around? Are we "reaffirming" our relationship with Israel, whom we basically have on a leash? Are we bridging political anxiety in the region? Are we ingratiating ourself to the international community? What the fuck is the end game? What is the reward?

Exactly nothing. Trump is from the "say things that give dumb people boners but otherwise do nothing" school of politics
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CarlGrimes posted...

CreekCo posted...

End times flag

Nah. I am pretty sure the sign of end times is peace in that area.

That happens too. It'll look like the world is about to end first then peace will come from there.
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