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eston 11/29/17 11:34:20 AM #51:	Esrac posted... Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:891268081] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. </quote> There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newhopes 11/29/17 11:37:03 AM #52:	einegutePerson posted... BlkPopeIseem posted... There are those who believe looking at women should be punishable. Literally looking. Not glaring, not stalking, looking. As if men are expected to be peasants deemed unworthy to glance upon them. In a culture where women choose it's perfect. No need to reject the undesirables so they smoothly get what they want with less work. It's a form of oppressive indoctrination for selfish reasons similar to that abusive dictators. I wonder how white men would be judged if we took only the most extreme statements said by them and tried to judge an entire group of people based solely on these outrageous notions. You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you? <cite>Newhopes posted [p:891268211] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>einegutePerson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlkPopeIseem posted...</cite> <quote>There are those who believe looking at women should be punishable. Literally looking. Not glaring, not stalking, looking. As if men are expected to be peasants deemed unworthy to glance upon them. In a culture where women choose it's perfect. No need to reject the undesirables so they smoothly get what they want with less work. It's a form of oppressive indoctrination for selfish reasons similar to that abusive dictators.</quote> I wonder how white men would be judged if we took only the most extreme statements said by them and tried to judge an entire group of people based solely on these outrageous notions.</quote> You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/29/17 11:38:08 AM #53:	Howl posted... Esrac posted... I don't think he's referring to laws, so much as company policy. Well the laws about sexual harassment are literally what define what sexual harassment is legally so that's extremely relevant. They wrote that that way specifically because what one person considers acceptable may not be to another person. For example imagine that you are dating a co-worker and give her a hug before you go to your separate work stations. To your GF this is not considered as unwanted and therefore not sexual harassment. But the imagine doing that exact same thing to a woman on her first day, that may make her extremely uncomfortable and feel unwanted in that workplace and would therefore be sexual harassment. Not really relevant when regarding the policies of a private business. In a private company, even the recipient of the attention doesn't necessarily get to determine if the behaviour was inappropriate. HE and company policy make that call. I've seen male employees get in trouble with management because they touched a female employee, not even in a groping or sexual way, and surveillance noticed and filed a report about it. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:891268266] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think he's referring to laws, so much as company policy.</quote> Well the laws about sexual harassment are literally what define what sexual harassment is legally so that's extremely relevant. They wrote that that way specifically because what one person considers acceptable may not be to another person. For example imagine that you are dating a co-worker and give her a hug before you go to your separate work stations. To your GF this is not considered as unwanted and therefore not sexual harassment. But the imagine doing that exact same thing to a woman on her first day, that may make her extremely uncomfortable and feel unwanted in that workplace and would therefore be sexual harassment.</quote> Not really relevant when regarding the policies of a private business. In a private company, even the recipient of the attention doesn't necessarily get to determine if the behaviour was inappropriate. HE and company policy make that call. I've seen male employees get in trouble with management because they touched a female employee, not even in a groping or sexual way, and surveillance noticed and filed a report about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/29/17 11:39:00 AM #54:	Newhopes posted... You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you? Really? Which countries? --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891268320] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote>You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you?</quote> Really? Which countries?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/29/17 11:39:09 AM #55:	eston posted... Esrac posted... Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl Yeah, but no one wants to watch a movie about what happens 90% of the time in normal life. That'd be boring as fuck. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:891268325] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. </quote> There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl</quote> Yeah, but no one wants to watch a movie about what happens 90% of the time in normal life. That'd be boring as fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlkPopeIseem 11/29/17 11:42:17 AM #56:	eston posted... Esrac posted... Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl Even the Obamas one of America's most cherished unions saying how many times she had to say no to Barack. Is/was he a creep?? <cite>BlkPopeIseem posted [p:891268500] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. </quote> There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl</quote> Even the Obamas one of America's most cherished unions saying how many times she had to say no to Barack. Is/was he a creep??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/29/17 11:43:12 AM #57:	That_Happened posted... Newhopes posted... You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you? Really? Which countries? Pfft, Saudi Arabia in a BIG **ing way. They just cover women up. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:891268546] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote>You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you?</quote> Really? Which countries?</quote> Pfft, Saudi Arabia in a BIG **ing way. They just cover women up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 11/29/17 11:43:24 AM #58:	That_Happened posted... (Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense? One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:891268555] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>(Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense?</quote> One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 11/29/17 11:44:18 AM #59:	eston posted... Yes, yes, and yes --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891268595] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, yes, and yes</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlkPopeIseem 11/29/17 11:44:50 AM #60:	einegutePerson posted... BlkPopeIseem posted... There are those who believe looking at women should be punishable. Literally looking. Not glaring, not stalking, looking. As if men are expected to be peasants deemed unworthy to glance upon them. In a culture where women choose it's perfect. No need to reject the undesirables so they smoothly get what they want with less work. It's a form of oppressive indoctrination for selfish reasons similar to that abusive dictators. I wonder how white men would be judged if we took only the most extreme statements said by them and tried to judge an entire group of people based solely on these outrageous notions. At least you agree. It IS happening btw. <cite>BlkPopeIseem posted [p:891268619] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>einegutePerson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlkPopeIseem posted...</cite> <quote>There are those who believe looking at women should be punishable. Literally looking. Not glaring, not stalking, looking. As if men are expected to be peasants deemed unworthy to glance upon them. In a culture where women choose it's perfect. No need to reject the undesirables so they smoothly get what they want with less work. It's a form of oppressive indoctrination for selfish reasons similar to that abusive dictators.</quote> I wonder how white men would be judged if we took only the most extreme statements said by them and tried to judge an entire group of people based solely on these outrageous notions.</quote> At least you agree. It IS happening btw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/29/17 11:45:16 AM #61:	Cocytus posted... That_Happened posted... Newhopes posted... You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you? Really? Which countries? Pfft, Saudi Arabia in a BIG **ing way. They just cover women up. And I wonder if Newhopes thinks we're on the brink of becoming the next Saudi Arabia. If he thinks it's realistic that America will be passing laws making it illegal for a man to talk to a woman. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891268648] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote>You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you?</quote> Really? Which countries?</quote> Pfft, Saudi Arabia in a BIG **ing way. They just cover women up.</quote> And I wonder if Newhopes thinks we're on the brink of becoming the next Saudi Arabia. If he thinks it's realistic that America will be passing laws making it illegal for a man to talk to a woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
einegutePerson 11/29/17 11:45:35 AM #62:	Cocytus posted... That_Happened posted... Newhopes posted... You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you? Really? Which countries? Pfft, Saudi Arabia in a BIG **ing way. They just cover women up. Muslim nations have strong laws regarding females (that aren't covered up) Big news --- im a good person <cite>einegutePerson posted [p:891268660] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote>You do know a few countries brought in laws where men can be fined just for talking to a woman recently don't you?</quote> Really? Which countries?</quote> Pfft, Saudi Arabia in a BIG **ing way. They just cover women up.</quote> Muslim nations have strong laws regarding females (that aren't covered up) Big news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/29/17 11:46:04 AM #63:	BlkPopeIseem posted... eston posted... Esrac posted... Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl Even the Obamas one of America's most cherished unions saying how many times she had to say no to Barack. Is/was he a creep?? You tell me: http://www.trolino.com/image?id=24757 --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:891268694] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlkPopeIseem posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>Probably the guys that hear anecdotes from women who said they kept refusing a guy, but he kept asking until she eventually said "yes" and then she had a wonderful time/fell in love/got married/etc. Those kinds of stories are out there and they suggest sometimes you have to wear them down with a little persistence to show her you really want her. </quote> There are sooooo many movies and tv shows where this is the exact plot, and it's crazy because that isn't how it works like 90% of the time irl</quote> Even the Obamas one of America's most cherished unions saying how many times she had to say no to Barack. Is/was he a creep??</quote> You tell me: http://www.trolino.com/image?id=24757</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/29/17 11:46:26 AM #64:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... That_Happened posted... (Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense? One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable. The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891268709] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>(Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense?</quote> One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable.</quote> The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
einegutePerson 11/29/17 11:48:03 AM #65:	That_Happened posted... The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly. He can't even read your question fully Does that answer your question as to why some guys don't "get" sexual harassment lmao I mean honestly --- im a good person <cite>einegutePerson posted [p:891268802] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly. </quote> He can't even read your question fully Does that answer your question as to why some guys don't "get" sexual harassment lmao I mean honestly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 11/29/17 11:49:15 AM #66:	That_Happened posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... That_Happened posted... (Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense? One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable. The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly. No it doesn't. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:891268881] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>(Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense?</quote> One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable.</quote> The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly.</quote> No it doesn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
einegutePerson 11/29/17 11:50:11 AM #67:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... That_Happened posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... That_Happened posted... (Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense? One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable. The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly. No it doesn't. And there you have it folks. "Unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted." And we wonder why some men have difficulty not sexually harassing people. --- im a good person <cite>einegutePerson posted [p:891268923] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>(Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense?</quote> One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable.</quote> The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly.</quote> No it doesn't.</quote> And there you have it folks. "Unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted." And we wonder why some men have difficulty not sexually harassing people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/29/17 11:52:30 AM #68:	einegutePerson posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... That_Happened posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... That_Happened posted... (Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense? One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable. The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly. No it doesn't. And there you have it folks. "Unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted." And we wonder why some men have difficulty not sexually harassing people. He didn't say that. He said it doesn't mean she rejected the man repeatedly. The advance could be unwanted at the very first asking. It could also be unwanted even if she said yes, if she felt pressured into accepting. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:891269052] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>einegutePerson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>(Let's assume neither party in any of these situations is a boss or has any power over the other person). 1 A male coworker catcalling or making unwanted statements about a female colleague's appearance to her as she walks by. Is this sexual harassment? 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? 3 Do you feel sexual harassment is a fireable offense?</quote> One is too vague. 2 is only harassment if she specifically told him to stop. Three again depends on the definition. Some sjws would consider saying you have nice eyes to be sexual harassment which obviously shouldn't be fireable.</quote> The word "unwanted" implies that she has rejected the man repeatedly.</quote> No it doesn't.</quote> And there you have it folks. "Unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted." And we wonder why some men have difficulty not sexually harassing people.</quote> He didn't say that. He said it doesn't mean she rejected the man repeatedly. The advance could be unwanted at the very first asking. It could also be unwanted even if she said yes, if she felt pressured into accepting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
im not 13 11/29/17 11:53:20 AM #69:	einegutePerson posted... And there you have it folks. "Unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted." Unwanted could mean more than one thing in the context. Maybe he's hitting on her and she hasn't explicitly said stop or drawn a line --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m510t9eNw71r2yd8o.jpg <cite>im not 13 posted [p:891269091] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>einegutePerson posted...</cite> <quote>And there you have it folks. "Unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted."</quote> Unwanted could mean more than one thing in the context. Maybe he's hitting on her and she hasn't explicitly said stop or drawn a line</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/29/17 12:23:50 PM #70:	Esrac posted... He didn't say that. He said it doesn't mean she rejected the man repeatedly. The advance could be unwanted at the very first asking. Bro do you know what REPEATED means? That_Happened posted... 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891270678] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't say that. He said it doesn't mean she rejected the man repeatedly. The advance could be unwanted at the very first asking.</quote> Bro do you know what REPEATED means? <cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/29/17 12:25:52 PM #71:	im not 13 posted... Unwanted could mean more than one thing in the context. Maybe he's hitting on her and she hasn't explicitly said stop or drawn a line If she is rejecting you repeatedly and makes no attempt to compromise (for example, she never says anything like "No Friday night doesn't work for me, but what about Saturday afternoon?") then you should take the hint. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891270791] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>im not 13 posted...</cite> <quote>Unwanted could mean more than one thing in the context. Maybe he's hitting on her and she hasn't explicitly said stop or drawn a line</quote> If she is rejecting you repeatedly and makes no attempt to compromise (for example, she never says anything like "No Friday night doesn't work for me, but what about Saturday afternoon?") then you should take the hint.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wolf_J_Flywheel 11/29/17 1:37:52 PM #72:	That_Happened posted... Wolf_J_Flywheel posted... That_Happened posted... Cocytus posted... Let's define catcalling first. We all think we know what it is, but how would we define it...? I gave the definition in the OP. Female coworker walks by, male coworker makes flirtatious or sexual comments about her body and her appearance. And there's probably as many women that enjoy it as there are that are offended. Out of curiosity, when construction workers or laborers catcall women on a busy city street, do you think the number of women who enjoy it and the number of women who hate it are about equal? Depends on the attractiveness of the workers, factoring in job and wealth into that attractiveness. So probably not. If wall street investors cat called women on a side walk, I bet it would swing in a different direction. --- Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg <cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted [p:891274858] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote>Let's define catcalling first. We all think we know what it is, but how would we define it...?</quote> I gave the definition in the OP. Female coworker walks by, male coworker makes flirtatious or sexual comments about her body and her appearance.</quote> And there's probably as many women that enjoy it as there are that are offended.</quote> Out of curiosity, when construction workers or laborers catcall women on a busy city street, do you think the number of women who enjoy it and the number of women who hate it are about equal?</quote> Depends on the attractiveness of the workers, factoring in job and wealth into that attractiveness. So probably not. If wall street investors cat called women on a side walk, I bet it would swing in a different direction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 11/29/17 2:03:27 PM #74:	That_Happened posted... Esrac posted... He didn't say that. He said it doesn't mean she rejected the man repeatedly. The advance could be unwanted at the very first asking. Bro do you know what REPEATED means? That_Happened posted... 2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment? Yes, bro, obviously. That isn't the issue I'm addressing. It's the insinuation by einegutePerson that daftpunk_mk5 was saying "unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted" when he responded to you. "Unwanted" doesn't necessitate repeated rejections. Even an accepted advance can be unwanted when it is coerced or the woman felt otherwise pressured to accept. I may have phrased my post a bit poorly. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:891276303] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't say that. He said it doesn't mean she rejected the man repeatedly. The advance could be unwanted at the very first asking.</quote> Bro do you know what REPEATED means? <cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>2 A male coworker giving repeated, unwanted invitations to a female colleague to go out for drinks, dinner, or dates. Is this sexual harassment?</quote></quote> Yes, bro, obviously. That isn't the issue I'm addressing. It's the insinuation by einegutePerson that daftpunk_mk5 was saying "unwanted" doesn't mean "unwanted" when he responded to you. "Unwanted" doesn't necessitate repeated rejections. Even an accepted advance can be unwanted when it is coerced or the woman felt otherwise pressured to accept. I may have phrased my post a bit poorly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/29/17 2:03:44 PM #75:	Wolf_J_Flywheel posted... Depends on the attractiveness of the workers, factoring in job and wealth into that attractiveness. So probably not. If wall street investors cat called women on a side walk, I bet it would swing in a different direction. So, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you think that if the people who were catcalling women and saying all kinds of sexual things about them were financially well off and handsome, most women would enjoy the constant attention? --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891276318] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...</cite> <quote>Depends on the attractiveness of the workers, factoring in job and wealth into that attractiveness. So probably not. If wall street investors cat called women on a side walk, I bet it would swing in a different direction.</quote> So, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you think that if the people who were catcalling women and saying all kinds of sexual things about them were financially well off and handsome, most women would enjoy the constant attention?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wolf_J_Flywheel 11/29/17 3:26:29 PM #76:	That_Happened posted... Wolf_J_Flywheel posted... Depends on the attractiveness of the workers, factoring in job and wealth into that attractiveness. So probably not. If wall street investors cat called women on a side walk, I bet it would swing in a different direction. So, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you think that if the people who were catcalling women and saying all kinds of sexual things about them were financially well off and handsome, most women would enjoy the constant attention? Nope, I'm saying they are less likely to be offended. No doubt there are an abundance of women who would be outraged, but no doubt and abundance that are shallow enough to find it flattering. We are talking about human beings. --- Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg <cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted [p:891281295] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...</cite> <quote>Depends on the attractiveness of the workers, factoring in job and wealth into that attractiveness. So probably not. If wall street investors cat called women on a side walk, I bet it would swing in a different direction.</quote> So, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you think that if the people who were catcalling women and saying all kinds of sexual things about them were financially well off and handsome, most women would enjoy the constant attention?</quote> Nope, I'm saying they are less likely to be offended. No doubt there are an abundance of women who would be outraged, but no doubt and abundance that are shallow enough to find it flattering. We are talking about human beings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 11/30/17 9:00:21 AM #78:	So I guess the answer to the topic title is "Although most guys understand what's acceptable and what's not acceptable, there are a surprising amount of guys who still don't get it." --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891324282] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote>So I guess the answer to the topic title is "Although most guys understand what's acceptable and what's not acceptable, there are a surprising amount of guys who still don't get it."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kajagogo 11/30/17 9:01:31 AM #79:	im not 13 posted... 1. She's not being harassed sexually, so no. 2. Again, she's being harassed but not sexually. Just a guy being an ass 3. In severe cases most definitely, but not for 1 and 2 --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. <cite>Kajagogo posted [p:891324322] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>im not 13 posted...</cite> <quote>1. She's not being harassed sexually, so no. 2. Again, she's being harassed but not sexually. Just a guy being an ass 3. In severe cases most definitely, but not for 1 and 2</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/30/17 9:12:59 AM #80:	Kajagogo posted... im not 13 posted... 1. She's not being harassed sexually, so no. 2. Again, she's being harassed but not sexually. Just a guy being an ass This post covered why this is wrong: einegutePerson posted... People hear "sexual" harassment and think it has to be overtly sexual for anything to happen and to them, constantly asking someone out (who has said to stop) is not seen as overtly sexual, so they don't feel the moral pressure to stop. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:891324753] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kajagogo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>im not 13 posted...</cite> <quote>1. She's not being harassed sexually, so no. 2. Again, she's being harassed but not sexually. Just a guy being an ass</quote></quote> This post covered why this is wrong: <cite>einegutePerson posted...</cite> <quote>People hear "sexual" harassment and think it has to be overtly sexual for anything to happen and to them, constantly asking someone out (who has said to stop) is not seen as overtly sexual, so they don't feel the moral pressure to stop.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/30/17 9:15:55 AM #81:	80 posts itt suggests not --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:891324853] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote>80 posts itt suggests not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 11/30/17 9:21:43 AM #82:	General rule: if it's repeated after the first time she asks the person to stop, it's sexual harassment. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:891325030] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote>General rule: if it's repeated after the first time she asks the person to stop, it's sexual harassment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 11/30/17 10:00:39 AM #83:	1.no 2.no 3.yes --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:891326599] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote>1.no 2.no 3.yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 11/30/17 10:12:41 AM #84:	Repeatedly asking a woman out is harassment, but it's not sexual. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891327107] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote>Repeatedly asking a woman out is harassment, but it's not sexual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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einegutePerson 11/30/17 10:58:45 AM #86:	r4X0r posted... Repeatedly asking a woman out is harassment, but it's not sexual. --- im a good person <cite>einegutePerson posted [p:891329286] in Are Men Aw... [t:76043194]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>Repeatedly asking a woman out is harassment, but it's not sexual.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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