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WastelandCowboy 11/27/17 5:51:06 PM #1: |
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/27/566783261/trump-brings-up-pocahontas-at-event-honoring-navajo-code-talkers
President Trump decided to bring up one of his favorite nicknames during an event honoring Navajo Code Talkers but it's one that is widely seen as a slur offensive to Native Americans. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 11/27/17 5:51:19 PM #2: |
Trump declined to give his full prepared remarks after MacDonald, saying the retired Marine "said it better." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmokeMassTree 11/27/17 5:58:10 PM #3: |
Why is that "offensive"
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SushiSquid 11/27/17 6:01:05 PM #4: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
Why is that "offensive" You kidding? He's mocking her for having native heritage at a ceremony honoring natives. It's all sorts of levels of fucked up, stupid, and yes, offensive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Andromicus 11/27/17 6:02:52 PM #5: |
As someone who is 1/16th Cherokee I am deeply offended but as a 15/16 white male I'm gonna let it pass because it's just locker room talk.
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SmokeMassTree 11/27/17 6:04:20 PM #6: |
Uhh no
It's not like Pocahontas has any negative stigma around it. Y'all will find anything to get "offended" by --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GastroFan 11/27/17 6:05:59 PM #7: |
People are surprised by the insensitivity and crassness of this President? I'd be more surprised if he didn't say something insensitive, crass, callous, petty and vindictive about someone (other than those he believes are on 'his side').
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Melon_Master 11/27/17 6:07:38 PM #8: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
Why is that "offensive" --- http://i.imgur.com/linui.png http://i.imgur.com/FiYI1.jpg PotDs UnOfficial President and Official Sheldon Cooper ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmokeMassTree 11/27/17 6:08:30 PM #9: |
Still waiting on an actual reason that is offensive
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mooreandrew58 11/27/17 6:08:39 PM #10: |
GastroFan posted...
People are surprised by the insensitivity and crassness of this President? I'd be more surprised if he didn't say something insensitive, crass, callous, petty and vindictive about someone (other than those he believes are on 'his side'). I guess thats true I was really surprised about how nicely he talked about hillary in his acceptance speech right after the election. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/27/17 6:13:23 PM #11: |
His base will love him even more for this
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SKARDAVNELNATE 11/27/17 6:18:55 PM #12: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
Why is that "offensive" I don't get it either. It's a Disney movie after all. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 11/27/17 6:21:20 PM #13: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
Still waiting on an actual reason that is offensive It's offensive because Trump won and whiners are gonna look for reasons to be mad. If this actually upsets you then you probably are a eunuch. "Look he's making fun of eunuchs now!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWorstPoster 11/27/17 6:22:42 PM #14: |
SushiSquid posted...
That is because she has none whatsoever. She lied about her heritage to get herself into Harvard. Her only "evidence" she has brought up, ever, was that her great-grandmother or something co-authored a book called "Pow-Wow Chow". I am not making any of that up. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GanonsSpirit 11/27/17 6:22:48 PM #15: |
In before vocal cord parasites.
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darkknight109 11/27/17 6:24:14 PM #16: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
Why is that "offensive" Ask yourself a question: if it's not meant to be insulting, why is Trump using it to refer to Warren? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SKARDAVNELNATE 11/27/17 6:29:23 PM #17: |
darkknight109 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...Why is that "offensive" I think it's more dismissive than insulting, but that's kind of how Trump works. He never says anything outright. He lets the audience interpret and argue over interpretation. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninja_lootz 11/27/17 7:01:02 PM #18: |
I love this man.
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SmokeMassTree 11/27/17 7:10:59 PM #19: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
Still waiting on an actual reason that is offensive --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/27/17 7:20:27 PM #20: |
No one talk about net neutrality
Everyone talk about this thing I said --- All praise Mead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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knivesX2004 11/27/17 7:31:46 PM #21: |
Mead posted...
No one talk about net neutrality It's like the distractions are working for the GOP. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 11/27/17 7:35:53 PM #22: |
Did he think the native Americans were going to immediately get that reference to his creeper feud with Elizabeth Warren?
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MacrossSpecial 11/27/17 7:59:24 PM #23: |
He has lived in a rich-guy bubble his entire life, I'd think that anyone would be crazy given those circumstances.
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darkknight109 11/27/17 8:08:41 PM #24: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...Still waiting on an actual reason that is offensive darkknight109 posted... Ask yourself a question: if it's not meant to be insulting, why is Trump using it to refer to Warren? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BADoglick 11/27/17 8:22:06 PM #25: |
The left can't even explain why they're offended by something anymore. They just know 'guy I dislike made comment that vaguely references race so I have to be offended so that way everyone else dislikes the guy I dislike'.
And I say that as someone who eagerly rips into Trump and his base. But seriously, you can't even say why you're offended, and you're scrambling to defend somebody who exploited affirmative action for personal gain. Pick your battles. This is unimportant nonsense used to rule up the left, and you're all falling for it. --- BADoglick to the Max! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmokeMassTree 11/27/17 8:42:19 PM #27: |
darkknight109 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...SmokeMassTree posted...Still waiting on an actual reason that is offensive So you got nothing --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrndNhbrHdCEman 11/27/17 8:44:52 PM #28: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
Why is that "offensive" Based on ya not understandin 400lbs is unhealthy not shocked ya can't wrap round this sitch. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip http://imgur.com/uGKwGsK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 11/27/17 9:05:29 PM #29: |
BADoglick posted...
The left can't even explain why they're offended by something anymore. They just know 'guy I dislike made comment that vaguely references race so I have to be offended so that way everyone else dislikes the guy I dislike'. it's not a difficult concept http://www.newsweek.com/trump-pocahontas-native-americans-elizabeth-warren-racial-slur-723858 i'd say doing all of that in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson was quite the insensitive gesture SKARDAVNELNATE posted... SmokeMassTree posted...Why is that "offensive" Disney had straight up started with blackface in their animated films, they have a long history of racism --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CSRouge96 11/27/17 11:52:41 PM #30: |
This just in, our president is a fucking joke, water is wet, and the sky is blue!
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Blightzkrieg 11/27/17 11:53:36 PM #31: |
haha take that libruls
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Zeus 11/27/17 11:58:22 PM #32: |
I lol'd when I heard about it on NPR this afternoon. Granted, I'm sure a lot of presidents have taken random potshots at opponents during unrelated events.
SushiSquid posted... SmokeMassTree posted...Why is that "offensive" He's mocking her for making up native heritage. She's not actually native. darkknight109 posted... SmokeMassTree posted...Why is that "offensive" Insulting and offensive are not synonymous terms. I understand that there's a general trend to broaden the idea of offensiveness, but trying to classify anything intended as an insult as offensive strictly on the merits of it being an insult is wrongheaded. wah_wah_wah posted... Did he think the native Americans were going to immediately get that reference to his creeper feud with Elizabeth Warren? Given that he's made headlines over his feud, sure. And what's "creeper" about it, exactly? Cringy, maybe, since both individuals have acted pretty poorly but nothing really creepy let alone creeper. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeeVees 11/28/17 12:09:11 AM #33: |
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Yellow 11/28/17 12:14:43 AM #34: |
Every Asian man I meet is Jackie Chan. It's the literal holy consecration of the PC chains shackling us all. Basically, I'm doing God's work.
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ClarkDuke 11/28/17 12:14:44 AM #35: |
Zeus posted...
He's mocking her for making up native heritage. She's not actually native. Like how you made up being a legend here, I get it now, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 11/28/17 12:20:24 AM #36: |
Yellow posted...
Every Asian man I meet is Jackie Chan. It's the literal holy consecration of the PC chains shackling us all. Basically, I'm doing God's work. Missing the point. Pocahontas was a princess. I think that's a large part of the insult and not a simple implication that all native Americans are Pocahontas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClarkDuke 11/28/17 12:27:07 AM #37: |
OhhhJa posted...
Yellow posted...Every Asian man I meet is Jackie Chan. It's the literal holy consecration of the PC chains shackling us all. Basically, I'm doing God's work. How do you manage, you must get so tired reaching for excuses, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darcandkharg31 11/28/17 12:27:18 AM #38: |
Eh, bad timing to bring that "insult" out but overall I have no problem with him calling her out with the Pocahontas thing.
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jramirez23 11/28/17 12:30:31 AM #39: |
He's like a middle schooler the way he uses "Pocahontas" to make fun of Sen. Warren at an event that doesn't even have anything to do with her.
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TallTamryu 11/28/17 12:43:06 AM #40: |
I think it's actually stupid more than offensive.
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ssj4supervegeta 11/28/17 12:44:43 AM #41: |
SushiSquid posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...Why is that "offensive" no it isnt. --- LoL summoner: Vejitables Wanna know why me rogers so jolly? hehe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 11/28/17 12:57:23 AM #42: |
ClarkDuke posted...
OhhhJa posted...Yellow posted...Every Asian man I meet is Jackie Chan. It's the literal holy consecration of the PC chains shackling us all. Basically, I'm doing God's work. You got any excuses for her claiming to be Native American to advance her career and then double down when called out? Somehow Trump's little jab is worse than her doing that? You just got rekt b ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 11/28/17 12:59:05 AM #43: |
ssj4supervegeta posted...
SushiSquid posted...SmokeMassTree posted...Why is that "offensive" Not to mention she doesn't actually have any Native American heritage. But she's democrat so liberals won't call her out for that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 11/28/17 1:06:21 AM #44: |
SmokeMassTree posted...
darkknight109 posted...SmokeMassTree posted...SmokeMassTree posted...Still waiting on an actual reason that is offensive Says the guy who won't answer my question. Anyways, if you haven't figured it out yet, Yellow had the best explanation - he's basically referring to her using a racial stereotype. No different than if he called a black person "50 Cent" or an Indian "Apu". Zeus posted... Insulting and offensive are not synonymous terms. I understand that there's a general trend to broaden the idea of offensiveness, but trying to classify anything intended as an insult as offensive strictly on the merits of it being an insult is wrongheaded. You're right, it's not. The difference is that, instead of Trump's usual grade-school-level dipshittery - like "Little Marco Rubio" or "Crooked Hillary" - he chose to insult Warren by using her race/heritage. That crosses the line from insulting to offensive. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darcandkharg31 11/28/17 1:09:57 AM #45: |
darkknight109 posted...
insult Warren by using her race/heritage are you just purposely ignoring the part that says she isn't actually native? --- This is my signature, there are many others like it, but this one is mine. If you take 110% of what I say seriously then you're gonna have a bad time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 11/28/17 1:12:12 AM #46: |
darcandkharg31 posted...
darkknight109 posted...insult Warren by using her race/heritage Debatable. Regardless, even if you believe she isn't, that still doesn't make the invective any less offensive. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 11/28/17 1:12:22 AM #47: |
darcandkharg31 posted...
darkknight109 posted...insult Warren by using her race/heritage Yeah he's dedicated when it comes to arguing about victims of "offensive" speech ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 11/28/17 1:13:51 AM #48: |
darkknight109 posted...
Debatable. Hardly. Nobody ever found any trace of it when researching her ancestry and the best she could come up with herself was, "mommy said we were" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Always_Die 11/28/17 1:18:37 AM #49: |
darkknight109 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...Why is that "offensive" basically. its obviously antagonistic and very un-presidential --- come at me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 11/28/17 1:19:23 AM #50: |
OhhhJa posted...
darkknight109 posted...Debatable. A genealogist traced her heritage back and confirmed she has Native heritage. Conservatives dispute the findings. Hence why I said "debatable." I really don't care to segue the debate into this, because it's completely unrelated to the topic of whether or not Trump's comment was or wasn't offensive. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yellow 11/28/17 1:20:13 AM #51: |
OhhhJa posted...
You got any excuses for her claiming to be Native American to advance her career and then double down when called out? Somehow Trump's little jab is worse than her doing that? You just got rekt b You wrecked yourself She says she's 1/32 native American, but there's no proof that she is, so a bunch of buffoons use that to confirm she's just a fraud I don't know how I'm supposed to argue with someone who thinks calling someone Pocahontas during an event that's supposed to honor Native Americans is a good thing for a president to do. He does so much stupid shit by the day it's amazing he gets away with it. I'm going to have to keep a list. It's hard to forget when you have a list. - Claimed the Boy Scouts of America's leader called him to thank him personally after his speech to them, Boy Scouts of America confirmed that never happened and apologized for his politically-charged sexual-innuendo-filled speech. - Claimed Time Magazine wanted him to be "Person of the Year" on Twitter, got immediately disproven by Time Magazine (This was yesterday?) - Called Elizabeth Warren "Pocahantus" during an event honoring Native Americans --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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