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pinky0926
11/13/17 5:57:20 AM
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Stealing this from a reddit comment, but at what does it stop being microtransactions and start being macrotransactions?

Just look at this bullshit:

https://i.redd.it/o6u0ia9ptnxz.jpg

Imagine paying $80 for a star wars game but one of the main characters is a paid unlockable.

Don't even need to actively boycott EA anymore, I just ain't gonna pay for any of that.
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darkprince45
11/13/17 6:00:35 AM
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I have ea pass so I kinda wanted to try it. But the whole appeal of that game is playing jedis and shit. 60k credits for a character or some shit no thx
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KainWind
11/13/17 6:01:07 AM
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St0rmFury
11/13/17 6:01:52 AM
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KainWind posted...
Are they not unlockable otherwise?

Sure they are, if you're willing to sink about 40 hours just to unlock Vader.
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KobeSystem
11/13/17 6:03:23 AM
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KainWind posted...
Are they not unlockable otherwise?


Yea

Hope you're a NEET or an insomniac with no life tho
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Chicken
11/13/17 6:03:43 AM
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This is gonna be small potatoes in comparison to how it is now than in a few years. Just like how we thought a single $8 DLC was outrageous less than 10 years ago.

Major publishers have teams of hundreds of genius level experts whos only job is to study and research even more ways to add more kinds of DLC into games with as little effort as possible with as much cost as possible.
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rexcrk
11/13/17 6:04:01 AM
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Its as simple as not paying for them.

Its literally that simple.

I know I sure as hell wont be
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pinky0926
11/13/17 6:04:13 AM
#9:


KainWind posted...
Are they not unlockable otherwise?


They'll tell you it's achievable but they've deliberately engineered the mechanics to make it incredibly demotivating to even try.

You'll be sitting there grinding away as an underpowered character while a bunch of Korean players will all have the most expensive gear and characters and will be caning your ass. They're counting on you to give in and say "fuck it, it's only another $X".

Same story with so many of these games. Like sure, you could get the most expensive walls on clash of clans, but it would take about 3 years. Or just spend $100, who's even going to know...
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wackyteen
11/13/17 6:04:16 AM
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Yeah but you're not supposed to go drop that much. You're supposed to have a healthy mix of playing and paying. I suppose most of CE hasn't played any of the Ultimate Teams in sports games <_<
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KainWind
11/13/17 6:04:46 AM
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To me that seems fine, but I guess that might be a bit much for some people.

I'm generally fine with stupid microtransactions if you can unlock something otherwise. It gives me more reason to play a game.
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pinky0926
11/13/17 6:05:49 AM
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Chicken posted...
This is gonna be small potatoes in comparison to how it is now than in a few years. Just like how we thought a single $8 DLC was outrageous less than 10 years ago.

Major publishers have teams of hundreds of genius level experts whos only job is to study and research even more ways to add more kinds of DLC into games with as little effort as possible with as much cost as possible.


I'm hoping there's going to be a pendulum swing where people just stop enjoying videogames and there's a movement to bring it back to basics. I think that's already happening to some degree, at least on the indie front.

I've seriously just stopped playing games like this, and it has nothing to do with money. I can afford this, but I just won't pay for it.
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daftpunk_mk5
11/13/17 6:07:31 AM
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wackyteen posted...
Yeah but you're not supposed to go drop that much. You're supposed to have a healthy mix of playing and paying. I suppose most of CE hasn't played any of the Ultimate Teams in sports games <_<


When a game is $80 there should be 0 paying after that.
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pinky0926
11/13/17 6:07:58 AM
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KainWind posted...
To me that seems fine, but I guess that might be a bit much for some people.

I'm generally fine with stupid microtransactions if you can unlock something otherwise. It gives me more reason to play a game.


It's less about the cost and more about the bullshit they're trying to pull on you.

Remember Goldeneye? That game had some sick unlockables, but the catch was the only way to get them was to be a complete wizard at the game. Remember the achievement you felt finally getting the invisible and invincibility cheats? I remember being one of only two kids in my neighbourhood who had all the cheat codes. That was what achievement felt like in videogames.

It's pretty shit these days that as soon as a game comes out there's no small amount of players running around with all the sickest gear because daddy had no problem putting up $1k worth of lootbox rewards on his credit card. There's no sense of achievement there when the reward is just enough to make you not shit at the game.
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iron jojo
11/13/17 6:08:12 AM
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Chicken posted...
This is gonna be small potatoes in comparison to how it is now than in a few years. Just like how we thought a single $8 DLC was outrageous less than 10 years ago.

Major publishers have teams of hundreds of genius level experts whos only job is to study and research even more ways to add more kinds of DLC into games with as little effort as possible with as much cost as possible.

Yep
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wackyteen
11/13/17 6:12:04 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
wackyteen posted...
Yeah but you're not supposed to go drop that much. You're supposed to have a healthy mix of playing and paying. I suppose most of CE hasn't played any of the Ultimate Teams in sports games <_<


When a game is $80 there should be 0 paying after that.

I agree, if the game is single player. It's part of the reason why I don't fuck with multiplayer in most games.

However I don't personally mind dropping $10-20 every week or so in Madden, though they usually have some new flavor of the week packs or events going on so...

And I'm not saying that EA isn't doing what they're doing out of greed. They're clearly aiming to make baller baller money yo.

I'll just wait til I can rent BF2 through Redbox or get it used at gamestop and play the single player story
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untrustful
11/13/17 6:12:25 AM
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Revenue Streams
money is lit af
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apolloooo
11/13/17 6:17:06 AM
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And people would still buy it and buy microtransaction too.

Its been proven time and time that people are idiots
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pinky0926
11/13/17 6:19:05 AM
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@Godnorgosh

I saw you ask in that other topic if it's possible to give EA negative money. In a way you can.

Click on all of their digital advertising. Google Adwords ads, banners, anything you see pop up on the internet. But never buy anything. Waste away their pay-per-click advertising budget and make zero conversions. Don't even look sign up to a subscriber list.

It would be petty and unremarkable but you might enjoy the experience.
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Steve Nick
11/13/17 6:23:47 AM
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How much for all the epic star cards?
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luigi13579
11/13/17 6:24:34 AM
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I don't need to boycott them when I wouldn't buy their trash anyway.

These days, I play games on a delay for the most part, and only buy the brand new games that I *really* want. I probably play more older games than new ones overall. There are so many great ones I've missed out on over the years.
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DemonBuffet
11/13/17 6:29:26 AM
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Wow. Looks like Im skipping battlefront 2 :D
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untrustful
11/13/17 8:47:00 AM
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>2017
>trying to make the case that optional content isn't optional

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Coffeebeanz
11/13/17 8:49:01 AM
#24:


EA Games
It's On the Disc (TM)
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ssj3vegeta2
11/13/17 8:50:10 AM
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Dat's cheap as hell compared to what you have too pay to unlock FIFA Icons, stop complaining and adapt to da world we live in now tbh
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HypnoCoosh
11/13/17 8:50:49 AM
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This is why I only play SP games and don't engage in PvP
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pinky0926
11/13/17 8:51:24 AM
#27:


ssj3vegeta2 posted...
Dat's cheap as hell compared to what you have too pay to unlock FIFA Icons, stop complaining and adapt to da world we live in now tbh


please tell me this is a joke post
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rhklce
11/13/17 8:52:35 AM
#28:


Coffeebeanz posted...
EA Games
It's On the Disc (TM)


Hah
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eston
11/13/17 8:53:46 AM
#29:


I generally have no problem grinding for unlockables, but i can't see how this is a good idea in a MP game
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ssj3vegeta2
11/13/17 8:55:53 AM
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RE_expert44
11/13/17 8:55:58 AM
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40 hours is probably the tail end of most people time they will invest into this game
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daftpunk_mk5
11/13/17 1:41:57 PM
#32:


wackyteen posted...
daftpunk_mk5 posted...
wackyteen posted...
Yeah but you're not supposed to go drop that much. You're supposed to have a healthy mix of playing and paying. I suppose most of CE hasn't played any of the Ultimate Teams in sports games <_<


When a game is $80 there should be 0 paying after that.

I agree, if the game is single player. It's part of the reason why I don't fuck with multiplayer in most games.

However I don't personally mind dropping $10-20 every week or so in Madden, though they usually have some new flavor of the week packs or events going on so...

And I'm not saying that EA isn't doing what they're doing out of greed. They're clearly aiming to make baller baller money yo.

I'll just wait til I can rent BF2 through Redbox or get it used at gamestop and play the single player story


10-20 a week is fucking crazy
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FLUFFYGERM
11/13/17 1:43:08 PM
#33:


EA wants $80 for their game?
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FightingGames
11/13/17 1:46:32 PM
#34:


pinky0926 posted...
I just ain't gonna pay for any of that.

yes you will along with everyone else. Corporate practices have only worsen throughout the decade and therefore will only continue. We have witnessed many boycott attempts and protests but they become easily forgotten and ignored

whenever ZP makes a topic complaining about bad corporate practices, you guys better shut the fuck up and listen
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/17 1:47:45 PM
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Lmao, definitely not buying this one. Unfortunately people will still buy it and sink tons of money into this bullshit.
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DoctorVader
11/13/17 1:48:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twkKtKDgKas

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KarmaMuffin
11/13/17 1:48:19 PM
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The time length of 40 hours to get Vader is only real if you ignore the challenges. The weekly challenges should give you ~30k a week if you do them all.

It's pretty obvious that what they're going for is to keep players coming back. If they had the per match credit increase like people want, then players will have finished it all and not kept on coming into the game.
Still scummy, but not the same kind of scummy the hivemind is saying it is.

The concept of heroes being locked behind in-game credits is not something I think is an issue at all. I get that Vader/Luke are the main characters yadda yadda yadda but it's not something I have a strong opinion on either way.
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FL81
11/13/17 1:50:08 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
KainWind posted...
Are they not unlockable otherwise?

Sure they are, if you're willing to sink about 40 hours just to unlock Vader.

I remember the old days when FPS games didn't require MMORPG-tier timesinks
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I Like Toast
11/13/17 1:53:02 PM
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wackyteen posted...
. I suppose most of CE hasn't played any of the Ultimate Teams in sports games <_<

And is why I stopped buying Madden
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Kirby
11/13/17 1:53:10 PM
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I fucking hate EA, but people need to stop paying for the micro transactions before any change will come.
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butthole666
11/13/17 1:53:21 PM
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We live in a late capitalist hell
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MoreRpgs
11/13/17 1:54:16 PM
#42:


Not acceptable.
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 1:54:34 PM
#43:


Even Star Wars HQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huroFtll05A


has spoke out against EA's bullshit...

You know EA fucked up when SWHQ doesn't fall in line.
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The Admiral
11/13/17 1:55:02 PM
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Some fools will pay that, which EA knows.
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LeadPipeCinche
11/13/17 2:05:06 PM
#45:


St0rmFury posted...
KainWind posted...
Are they not unlockable otherwise?

Sure they are, if you're willing to sink about 40 hours just to unlock Vader.


Yeah cause god forbid you have to actually PLAY THE GD GAME to unlock something.
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pinky0926
11/13/17 2:06:00 PM
#46:


FightingGames posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I just ain't gonna pay for any of that.

yes you will along with everyone else. Corporate practices have only worsen throughout the decade and therefore will only continue. We have witnessed many boycott attempts and protests but they become easily forgotten and ignored

whenever ZP makes a topic complaining about bad corporate practices, you guys better shut the fuck up and listen


No, I won't. I haven't bought an EA game since 2007.
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AlternativeFAQS
11/13/17 2:06:47 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
KainWind posted...
Are they not unlockable otherwise?

Sure they are, if you're willing to sink about 40 hours just to unlock Vader.

40 hours in an online FPS is nothing
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FLUFFYGERM
11/13/17 2:07:13 PM
#48:


butthole666 posted...
We live in a late capitalist hell


what does an entertainment company shooting itself in the foot have to do with capitalism
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/17 2:08:03 PM
#49:


AlternativeFAQS posted...
St0rmFury posted...
KainWind posted...
Are they not unlockable otherwise?

Sure they are, if you're willing to sink about 40 hours just to unlock Vader.

40 hours in an online FPS is nothing


40 hours is a huge chunk of time to dedicate to unlocking ONE character, and from what I understand you cannot unlock anything else in this time, you have to save all of your credits for this one character.
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AlternativeFAQS
11/13/17 2:08:14 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
butthole666 posted...
We live in a late capitalist hell


what does an entertainment company shooting itself in the foot have to do with capitalism


i keep seeing you ask these dumbfuck questions with very obvious answers
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