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Mal_Fet 11/04/17 12:52:16 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5WvC79ayv0 tl;dw: "Socialism is just about sharing and being nice to each other, guys!" No, no it fuckin isn't. Voluntarily giving out Halloween candy doesn't even approach what Marx described socialism as. Giving out candy is called "charity", which is what the US leads the world in per capita despite being one of the more capitalist countries. And for that matter, having a handful of government services is also not socialism. England in the 1800's also had roads/firefighters/police/etc, but Marx never called England a socialist society. Somehow, he had a more appropriate idea of socialism back when he was intentionally acting like a dumbass than he does when he's being his normal liberal self --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889745262] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5WvC79ayv0 tl;dw: "Socialism is just about sharing and being nice to each other, guys!" No, no it fuckin isn't. Voluntarily giving out Halloween candy doesn't even approach what Marx described socialism as. Giving out candy is called "charity", which is what the US leads the world in per capita despite being one of the more capitalist countries. And for that matter, having a handful of government services is also not socialism. England in the 1800's also had roads/firefighters/police/etc, but Marx never called England a socialist society. Somehow, he had a more appropriate idea of socialism back when he was intentionally acting like a dumbass than he does when he's being his normal liberal self</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Go_Totodile 11/04/17 12:53:03 PM #2:	I dunno but I sort of lost interest in watching his stuff. --- https://i.imgur.com/lBceXcB.png <cite>Go_Totodile posted [p:889745310] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>I dunno but I sort of lost interest in watching his stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 11/04/17 12:53:46 PM #3:	Shhh, its going to be ok. Youll get through this. Stay strong. --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:889745347] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>Shhh, its going to be ok. Youll get through this. Stay strong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 11/04/17 12:56:19 PM #5:	shockthemonkey posted... So is Lil Trump also stupid for comparing Halloween candy to socialism or is it only Colbert? Taking stuff that someone "worked" for by force and redistributing it to people who did not work for it does approach the idea of socialism. But giving out money to people voluntarily and in quantities you decided on personally is not how socialism works. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889745450] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>So is Lil Trump also stupid for comparing Halloween candy to socialism or is it only Colbert?</quote> Taking stuff that someone "worked" for by force and redistributing it to people who did not work for it does approach the idea of socialism. But giving out money to people voluntarily and in quantities you decided on personally is not how socialism works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 11/04/17 12:56:45 PM #6:	Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:889745472] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 11/04/17 12:58:43 PM #8:	~~~~~~mal_fet topic~~~~~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:889745573] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>~~~~~~mal_fet topic~~~~~~</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 11/04/17 12:59:47 PM #9:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gev_Phjl764 --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:889745627] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gev_Phjl764</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 1:00:12 PM #10:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... So is Lil Trump also stupid for comparing Halloween candy to socialism or is it only Colbert? Taking stuff that someone "worked" for by force and redistributing it to people who did not work for it does approach the idea of socialism. But giving out money to people voluntarily and in quantities you decided on personally is not how socialism works. That was a weird deflection Using halloween candy as an analogy for money isn't the problem, as you tried to imply The problem is that Colbert (and apparently you) have no idea what socialism even is --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889745649] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>So is Lil Trump also stupid for comparing Halloween candy to socialism or is it only Colbert?</quote> Taking stuff that someone "worked" for by force and redistributing it to people who did not work for it does approach the idea of socialism. But giving out money to people voluntarily and in quantities you decided on personally is not how socialism works.</quote> That was a weird deflection</quote> Using halloween candy as an analogy for money isn't the problem, as you tried to imply The problem is that Colbert (and apparently you) have no idea what socialism even is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 11/04/17 1:00:17 PM #11:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him. Hahaha, savage --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:889745656] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him.</quote> Hahaha, savage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 1:00:47 PM #12:	TheVipaGTS posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gev_Phjl764 How does that even make sense when this is a case of Colbert getting dumber after embracing leftism --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889745686] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gev_Phjl764</quote> How does that even make sense when this is a case of Colbert getting dumber after embracing leftism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 11/04/17 1:02:12 PM #13:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him. that doesn't make sense. Colbert dropped it and got dumber. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:889745762] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him.</quote> that doesn't make sense. Colbert dropped it and got dumber.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 11/04/17 1:04:27 PM #15:	No one is going to validate your terrible opinions. Everyone knows you're a punch line. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:889745879] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>No one is going to validate your terrible opinions. Everyone knows you're a punch line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 11/04/17 1:04:47 PM #16:	Milkman5 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him. that doesn't make sense. Colbert dropped it and got dumber. The only people who are making this claim are Trump supporters, though --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889745902] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, maybe Mal is correct. After all, if there's anyone who knows about getting dumber when having embraced conservatism it'd be him.</quote> that doesn't make sense. Colbert dropped it and got dumber.</quote> The only people who are making this claim are Trump supporters, though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 1:06:56 PM #17:	shockthemonkey posted... As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing No he didn't Can you not read? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889746023] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing</quote> No he didn't Can you not read?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MattSFfrd 11/04/17 1:07:39 PM #18:	protip: colbert is a fucking moron --- http://i.imgur.com/DHLvJ5Q.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQy5giAUsAAUXXa.jpg <cite>MattSFfrd posted [p:889746062] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>protip: colbert is a fucking moron</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/04/17 1:10:20 PM #20:	Mal is right. This kind of stupidity is why 70% of millennials cant properly define socialism and capitalism. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:889746212] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>Mal is right. This kind of stupidity is why 70% of millennials cant properly define socialism and capitalism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 1:12:53 PM #21:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing No he didn't Can you not read? Oh, so youre just lying. Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889746342] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing</quote> No he didn't Can you not read?</quote> Oh, so youre just lying.</quote> Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat More Beef 11/04/17 1:16:44 PM #22:	The Admiral posted... Mal is right. This kind of stupidity is why 70% of millennials cant properly define socialism and capitalism. Solid facts you got there. Where'd you get those percentages from? It sounds like ground breaking research you've conducted. I'd like to see your annotated bibliography please. --- I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com <cite>Eat More Beef posted [p:889746553] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Mal is right. This kind of stupidity is why 70% of millennials cant properly define socialism and capitalism.</quote> Solid facts you got there. Where'd you get those percentages from? It sounds like ground breaking research you've conducted. I'd like to see your annotated bibliography please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 11/04/17 1:17:56 PM #23:	I liked Colbert Report but his new show is unwatchable. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:889746621] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>I liked Colbert Report but his new show is unwatchable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/04/17 1:18:09 PM #24:	Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing No he didn't Can you not read? Oh, so youre just lying. Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions? Yeah, doesn't this describe all taxation which is used to finance government services, which you just said isn't socialism? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:889746640] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing</quote> No he didn't Can you not read?</quote> Oh, so youre just lying.</quote> Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions?</quote> Yeah, doesn't this describe all taxation which is used to finance government services, which you just said isn't socialism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 11/04/17 1:19:15 PM #26:	Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing No he didn't Can you not read? Oh, so youre just lying. Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions? Just want to point out. The concept of Halloween is you give trick or treaters candy so they don't play a trick on you. I would say that is a forceful tactic of getting free stuff from others. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:889746705] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing</quote> No he didn't Can you not read?</quote> Oh, so youre just lying.</quote> Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions?</quote> Just want to point out. The concept of Halloween is you give trick or treaters candy so they don't play a trick on you. I would say that is a forceful tactic of getting free stuff from others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 1:21:57 PM #27:	Balrog0 posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing No he didn't Can you not read? Oh, so youre just lying. Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions? Yeah, doesn't this describe all taxation which is used to finance government services, which you just said isn't socialism? Government services are not a form of wealth redistribution Have you even read Capital? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889746826] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>As Lil Trump implied. What are you missing here? He used it the same way youre criticizing</quote> No he didn't Can you not read?</quote> Oh, so youre just lying.</quote> Taking your stuff by force to redistribute it: socialism Giving your stuff to people voluntarily: not socialism Any questions?</quote> Yeah, doesn't this describe all taxation which is used to finance government services, which you just said isn't socialism?</quote> Government services are not a form of wealth redistribution Have you even read Capital?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 11/04/17 1:27:37 PM #28:	This guy is just as stupid as his 16 year old audience. Anybody who thinks socialism is good or that capitalism is bad needs to brush up on history. There is no individual wealth with socialism. How could people be so selfish that they honestly convince themselves that this is anything but a horrible idea? You don't destabilize a world power because you're too lazy and self centered to work. It's the entitlement of seeing that somebody EARNED something and feeling that you DESERVE it. This election was a real eye opener for me. I had no idea how many people I know were willing to double down on obamas racist politics and actually say that socialism was the better choice. I guess I can't expect more from people who tune in to be told how to think by a beta male comedian. --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:889747137] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>This guy is just as stupid as his 16 year old audience. Anybody who thinks socialism is good or that capitalism is bad needs to brush up on history. There is no individual wealth with socialism. How could people be so selfish that they honestly convince themselves that this is anything but a horrible idea? You don't destabilize a world power because you're too lazy and self centered to work. It's the entitlement of seeing that somebody EARNED something and feeling that you DESERVE it. This election was a real eye opener for me. I had no idea how many people I know were willing to double down on obamas racist politics and actually say that socialism was the better choice. I guess I can't expect more from people who tune in to be told how to think by a beta male comedian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/04/17 1:34:41 PM #29:	Mal_Fet posted... Government services are not a form of wealth redistribution This isn't what I asked, though. I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. You're saying it's a good metaphor for socialism but doesn't it. also apply to non socialism? If so, how. is it a good metaphor? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:889747544] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Government services are not a form of wealth redistribution</quote> This isn't what I asked, though. I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. You're saying it's a good metaphor for socialism but doesn't it. also apply to non socialism? If so, how. is it a good metaphor?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 1:38:59 PM #30:	Balrog0 posted... I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. Because government services aren't an example of socialism I'm...not sure how many times you need this explained --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889747783] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services.</quote> Because government services aren't an example of socialism I'm...not sure how many times you need this explained</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaytlessHearts 11/04/17 1:39:13 PM #31:	Ahhh Stephen Colbert. He used to be mediocre, now he's just trash. Lol. Can't wait for this moron to lose his show. He might pull a wendy williams and "faint" on air for a spike in viewers. --- "To be forgotten is worse than death..." -Freya <cite>FaytlessHearts posted [p:889747797] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>Ahhh Stephen Colbert. He used to be mediocre, now he's just trash. Lol. Can't wait for this moron to lose his show. He might pull a wendy williams and "faint" on air for a spike in viewers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/04/17 2:58:31 PM #32:	Mal_Fet posted... I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. Because government services aren't an example of socialism you realize this is circular reasoning right? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:889752090] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. Because government services aren't an example of socialism</quote> you realize this is circular reasoning right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 11/04/17 2:59:53 PM #33:	the epitome of a pathetic man who doesn't even get to own his own character, might as well be a WRESTLER....a FAKE.........ahahahahaha! --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:889752154] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>the epitome of a pathetic man who doesn't even get to own his own character, might as well be a WRESTLER....a FAKE.........ahahahahaha!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 3:01:54 PM #34:	Balrog0 posted... Mal_Fet posted... I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. Because government services aren't an example of socialism you realize this is circular reasoning right? How do you figure Taxes funding public roads is not wealth redistribution as described by Marx, and is therefore not an example of socialism. This isn't terribly complicated --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889752270] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. Because government services aren't an example of socialism</quote> you realize this is circular reasoning right?</quote> How do you figure Taxes funding public roads is not wealth redistribution as described by Marx, and is therefore not an example of socialism. This isn't terribly complicated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 11/04/17 3:01:55 PM #35:	Mal_Fet posted... Giving out candy is called "charity", which is what the US leads the world in per capita despite being one of the more capitalist countries. if by giving out candy you mean killing and invading --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:889752272] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Giving out candy is called "charity", which is what the US leads the world in per capita despite being one of the more capitalist countries. </quote> if by giving out candy you mean killing and invading</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/04/17 3:06:13 PM #36:	Mal_Fet posted... How do you figure Mal_Fet posted... Balrog0 posted... I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. Because government services aren't an example of socialism I'm...not sure how many times you need this explained I'm saying that taking candy from someone and giving it to other people is a good metaphor for how taxes work, or at least asking you to explain why it isn't. You're telling me it isn't, because taxing people for roads, police, etc. aren't socialism. But I'm not saying they are socialist, I'm saying the example Donald Jr. used also describes non-socialist systems. You are saying it doesn't, because they aren't socialist. That is circular reasoning. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:889752469] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How do you figure </quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... I'm asking why the metaphor doesn't also work for the way we finance government services. Because government services aren't an example of socialism I'm...not sure how many times you need this explained</quote> I'm saying that taking candy from someone and giving it to other people is a good metaphor for how taxes work, or at least asking you to explain why it isn't. You're telling me it isn't, because taxing people for roads, police, etc. aren't socialism. But I'm not saying they are socialist, I'm saying the example Donald Jr. used also describes non-socialist systems. You are saying it doesn't, because they aren't socialist. That is circular reasoning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 3:11:23 PM #37:	Balrog0 posted... I'm saying that taking candy from someone and giving it to other people is a good metaphor for how taxes work, No it isn't, because taxes don't always work that way. When taxes are taken to fund a road, that road is for everyone to use, which is not similar to Trump Jr's tweet. When taxes are taken to give to other people with less money than you, that's a clear facet of socialism, and is obviously what Trump Jr. was referencing. Need me to be more clear? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889752770] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm saying that taking candy from someone and giving it to other people is a good metaphor for how taxes work,</quote> No it isn't, because taxes don't always work that way. When taxes are taken to fund a road, that road is for everyone to use, which is not similar to Trump Jr's tweet. When taxes are taken to give to other people with less money than you, that's a clear facet of socialism, and is obviously what Trump Jr. was referencing. Need me to be more clear?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/04/17 3:13:32 PM #38:	Mal_Fet posted... No it isn't, because taxes don't always work that way. When taxes are taken to fund a road, that road is for everyone to use, which is not similar to Trump Jr's tweet. When taxes are taken to give to other people with less money than you, that's a clear facet of socialism, and is obviously what Trump Jr. was referencing. Need me to be more clear? Yeah, don't you think you're being overly simplistic in the case of socialism, and relatively sophisticated in the case of general government services? Wealth redistribution in this manner isn't socialism exactly in the manner Marx described it, either. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:889752877] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>No it isn't, because taxes don't always work that way. When taxes are taken to fund a road, that road is for everyone to use, which is not similar to Trump Jr's tweet. When taxes are taken to give to other people with less money than you, that's a clear facet of socialism, and is obviously what Trump Jr. was referencing. Need me to be more clear? </quote> Yeah, don't you think you're being overly simplistic in the case of socialism, and relatively sophisticated in the case of general government services? Wealth redistribution in this manner isn't socialism exactly in the manner Marx described it, either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/04/17 3:17:25 PM #39:	Balrog0 posted... Yeah, don't you think you're being overly simplistic in the case of socialism, and relatively sophisticated in the case of general government services? We're talking about an analysis of Stephen Colbert being fundamentally wrong on the definition of socialism while entirely skewing point of Jr's < 140-character tweet And I'm having to explain why no, not all taxation is socialism, nor is it as analogous to Jr's tweet as socialism is. Of-fucking-course it's gonna get analytical --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889753091] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, don't you think you're being overly simplistic in the case of socialism, and relatively sophisticated in the case of general government services?</quote> We're talking about an analysis of Stephen Colbert being fundamentally wrong on the definition of socialism while entirely skewing point of Jr's < 140-character tweet And I'm having to explain why no, not all taxation is socialism, nor is it as analogous to Jr's tweet as socialism is. Of-fucking-course it's gonna get analytical</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/04/17 3:24:30 PM #40:	Mal_Fet posted... And I'm having to explain why no, not all taxation is socialism no one asked you to explain this ever, dude, do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Mal_Fet posted... or is it as analogous to Jr's tweet as socialism is. which you still haven't explained lol of course not all taxation is equal to taking candy from one person to give to another person, but a substantial portion of taxation in fact works that way i.e., I pay for fire fighters and cops and roads even if I don't use them -- in fact, most people who pay for these things do not directly utilize the services or products they pay for directly! -- which isn't free market even if it isn't socialist Mal_Fet posted... Of-fucking-course it's gonna get analytical my point is you're being generous to donald jr and not to colbert, though neither is presenting socialism correctly you keep talking about Capital, but if anything it talks about the wealth redistribution that goes upwards more than it talks about the sort of wealth redistribution you're talking about. the goal of it isn't to take the products of capitalism, it's to take the means of production from capitalists which is a more sophisticated argument (sort of like how your argument that taxes don't always go to people who don't use the services they pay for is more sophisticated than taking candy from a person to give to another) I personally think neither person is being instructive or helpful --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:889753454] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>And I'm having to explain why no, not all taxation is socialism</quote> no one asked you to explain this ever, dude, do you have a problem with reading comprehension? <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>or is it as analogous to Jr's tweet as socialism is.</quote> which you still haven't explained lol of course not all taxation is equal to taking candy from one person to give to another person, but a substantial portion of taxation in fact works that way i.e., I pay for fire fighters and cops and roads even if I don't use them -- in fact, most people who pay for these things do not directly utilize the services or products they pay for directly! -- which isn't free market even if it isn't socialist <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Of-fucking-course it's gonna get analytical</quote> my point is you're being generous to donald jr and not to colbert, though neither is presenting socialism correctly you keep talking about Capital, but if anything it talks about the wealth redistribution that goes upwards more than it talks about the sort of wealth redistribution you're talking about. the goal of it isn't to take the products of capitalism, it's to take the means of production from capitalists which is a more sophisticated argument (sort of like how your argument that taxes don't always go to people who don't use the services they pay for is more sophisticated than taking candy from a person to give to another) I personally think neither person is being instructive or helpful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 11/04/17 3:31:59 PM #42:	Balrog0 posted... no one asked you to explain this ever, dude, do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Since not all taxation is analogous to socialism then Trump Jr.s tweet is not analogous to taxation. That was brought up and that's why I pointed it out. Balrog0 posted... of course not all taxation is equal to taking candy from one person to give to another person, but a substantial portion of taxation in fact works that way i.e., I pay for fire fighters and cops and roads even if I don't use them -- in fact, most people who pay for these things do not directly utilize the services or products they pay for directly! -- which isn't free market even if it isn't socialist You aren't denied usage of public services even if you may never use them. This is fundamentally different from wealth redistribution in that your money goes to things you are able to use as opposed to never seeing your money again because it has been redistributed in the name of "equality". Balrog0 posted... my point is you're being generous to donald jr and not to colbert, though neither is presenting socialism correctly Don Jr. made a simple point in 140 characters. Colbert did a four-minute monologue in which he completely misses the point of the tweet, and also demonstrates that he doesn't know what socialism is. My analysis of each is as expansive as the statements themselves. Is that not fair? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:889753780] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>no one asked you to explain this ever, dude, do you have a problem with reading comprehension?</quote> Since not all taxation is analogous to socialism then Trump Jr.s tweet is not analogous to taxation. That was brought up and that's why I pointed it out. <cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>of course not all taxation is equal to taking candy from one person to give to another person, but a substantial portion of taxation in fact works that way i.e., I pay for fire fighters and cops and roads even if I don't use them -- in fact, most people who pay for these things do not directly utilize the services or products they pay for directly! -- which isn't free market even if it isn't socialist</quote> You aren't denied usage of public services even if you may never use them. This is fundamentally different from wealth redistribution in that your money goes to things you are able to use as opposed to never seeing your money again because it has been redistributed in the name of "equality". <cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>my point is you're being generous to donald jr and not to colbert, though neither is presenting socialism correctly</quote> Don Jr. made a simple point in 140 characters. Colbert did a four-minute monologue in which he completely misses the point of the tweet, and also demonstrates that he doesn't know what socialism is. My analysis of each is as expansive as the statements themselves. Is that not fair?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/04/17 3:43:54 PM #43:	shockthemonkey posted... do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I love how everyone who converses with Mal has to ask him this I love how he avoids answering it. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:889754372] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><quote> do you have a problem with reading comprehension?</quote> I love how everyone who converses with Mal has to ask him this</quote> I love how he avoids answering it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 11/04/17 3:48:32 PM #44:	I think he's brain damaged. He can't go 5 minutes without doing an unfunny Donald Trump impression. --- gr8 b8 m8 <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:889754622] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>I think he's brain damaged. He can't go 5 minutes without doing an unfunny Donald Trump impression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 11/04/17 3:55:51 PM #45:	Well, look at it this way. When he was playing conservative, we had a liberal president. There, he has more kindle. Switching over, he has 3 times more kindle this time around. In addition, the majority of people are against Trump, so it is very good for his ratings. One last note being, Trump IS a real problem. He knows it is a serious time and aids people escaping the reality of it all with comedy. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1s7pla <cite>Sayoria posted [p:889755005] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>Well, look at it this way. When he was playing conservative, we had a liberal president. There, he has more kindle. Switching over, he has 3 times more kindle this time around. In addition, the majority of people are against Trump, so it is very good for his ratings. One last note being, Trump IS a real problem. He knows it is a serious time and aids people escaping the reality of it all with comedy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 11/04/17 4:03:40 PM #46:	lol @ the people taking up for socialism ITT lol @ stephen colbert and his (and many others) obsession with Trump. I'm about 75% sure that this division and newfound obsession with socialism is going to end up with another civil war of some sort. --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:889755420] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>lol @ the people taking up for socialism ITT lol @ stephen colbert and his (and many others) obsession with Trump. I'm about 75% sure that this division and newfound obsession with socialism is going to end up with another civil war of some sort.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/04/17 4:12:45 PM #47:	You know America is full of aspects of Socialism. Why do you guys act like it is evil? --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:889755908] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>You know America is full of aspects of Socialism. Why do you guys act like it is evil?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 11/04/17 4:21:44 PM #48:	yemmy posted... I'm about 75% sure that this division and newfound obsession with socialism is going to end up with another civil war of some sort. It's amazing how it's always the most mind numbingly moronic posters that spout off garbage points like this --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889756420] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>yemmy posted...</cite> <quote>I'm about 75% sure that this division and newfound obsession with socialism is going to end up with another civil war of some sort.</quote> It's amazing how it's always the most mind numbingly moronic posters that spout off garbage points like this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 11/04/17 4:22:46 PM #49:	cjsdowg posted... You know America is full of aspects of Socialism. Why do you guys act like it is evil? Because republicans and logic do not go together It's also why they are always so adamant to fuck themselves over --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889756474] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>You know America is full of aspects of Socialism. Why do you guys act like it is evil?</quote> Because republicans and logic do not go together It's also why they are always so adamant to fuck themselves over</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 11/04/17 4:28:32 PM #50:	Maybe he seemed smart when he was acting, but was really dumb. --- Start me, bench Forte <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:889756785] in How did St... [t:75954279]...</cite> <quote>Maybe he seemed smart when he was acting, but was really dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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