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philsov
11/01/17 10:47:22 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Isn't it odd how there's always tons of death and destruction when it comes to liberal and democratic policy? I can't think of a major attack or scandal that isn't a result of their shit.


It found 85 deadly attacks in the United States by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths, according to the GAO report.

The report defines violent extremism as supporting or committing violent acts to achieve political, ideological, religious or social goals -- a definition similar to that for terrorism. The term jihadism has has been applied to Islamic militant and terror movements against the West.

PolitiFact recently examined the GAO report and found, like the Reveal investigation, that more attacks were carried out by far-right violent extremists. But more people died during attacks connected with Islamic jihadists.

Of those 225 deaths by extremists:

106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;
119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;

http://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/aug/31/who-carries-out-more-terror-attacks-us-soil-right-/

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darkjedilink
11/01/17 11:13:15 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
So, we're going to blame an entire program for the actions of only one person?

Literally wouldn't be here if not for the program, made solely to pander to 'progressives' who see Islamic terrorism as nothing more than 'workplace violence' or 'peaceful protest,' in President Obama's words.
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 11:16:39 AM
#53:


philsov posted...
tremain07 posted...
Isn't it odd how there's always tons of death and destruction when it comes to liberal and democratic policy? I can't think of a major attack or scandal that isn't a result of their shit.

It found 85 deadly attacks in the United States by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths, according to the GAO report.

The report defines violent extremism as supporting or committing violent acts to achieve political, ideological, religious or social goals -- a definition similar to that for terrorism. The term jihadism has has been applied to Islamic militant and terror movements against the West.

PolitiFact recently examined the GAO report and found, like the Reveal investigation, that more attacks were carried out by far-right violent extremists. But more people died during attacks connected with Islamic jihadists.

Of those 225 deaths by extremists:

106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;
119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;

http://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/aug/31/who-carries-out-more-terror-attacks-us-soil-right-/

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https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/dark-constant-rage-25-years-of-right-wing-terrorism-in-united-states

If we're supposed to treat Muslim extremists as 'far-right,' why does the left bend over backwards to defend them the world over?
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Samurontai
11/01/17 11:19:04 AM
#54:


darkjedilink posted...
philsov posted...
tremain07 posted...
Isn't it odd how there's always tons of death and destruction when it comes to liberal and democratic policy? I can't think of a major attack or scandal that isn't a result of their shit.

It found 85 deadly attacks in the United States by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths, according to the GAO report.

The report defines violent extremism as supporting or committing violent acts to achieve political, ideological, religious or social goals -- a definition similar to that for terrorism. The term jihadism has has been applied to Islamic militant and terror movements against the West.

PolitiFact recently examined the GAO report and found, like the Reveal investigation, that more attacks were carried out by far-right violent extremists. But more people died during attacks connected with Islamic jihadists.

Of those 225 deaths by extremists:

106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;
119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;

http://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/aug/31/who-carries-out-more-terror-attacks-us-soil-right-/

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https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/dark-constant-rage-25-years-of-right-wing-terrorism-in-united-states

If we're supposed to treat Muslim extremists as 'far-right,' why does the left bend over backwards to defend them the world over?


Who defended Muslim extremists? Or are you implying that every Muslim is a radical?
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Anteaterking
11/01/17 11:19:23 AM
#55:


darkjedilink posted...
Literally wouldn't be here if not for the program, made solely to pander to 'progressives' who see Islamic terrorism as nothing more than 'workplace violence' or 'peaceful protest,' in President Obama's words.


The diversity visa wasn't formed to help Muslims. It was to help Irish and Italians who had family relations but not close enough to count come to America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/05/02/straight-up-pork-barrel-politics-how-the-green- card-lottery-was-invented-to-help-the-irish/

(remove the space between green and card)
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tommybel89
11/01/17 11:26:00 AM
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Anything that kills Democrat vote-getting programs is positive. Keep being a sanctuary city Mayor De Blasio et al, it's working out just great.
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 11:27:08 AM
#57:


Samurontai posted...
darkjedilink posted...
philsov posted...
tremain07 posted...
Isn't it odd how there's always tons of death and destruction when it comes to liberal and democratic policy? I can't think of a major attack or scandal that isn't a result of their shit.

It found 85 deadly attacks in the United States by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths, according to the GAO report.

The report defines violent extremism as supporting or committing violent acts to achieve political, ideological, religious or social goals -- a definition similar to that for terrorism. The term jihadism has has been applied to Islamic militant and terror movements against the West.

PolitiFact recently examined the GAO report and found, like the Reveal investigation, that more attacks were carried out by far-right violent extremists. But more people died during attacks connected with Islamic jihadists.

Of those 225 deaths by extremists:

106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;
119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;

http://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/aug/31/who-carries-out-more-terror-attacks-us-soil-right-/

~

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/dark-constant-rage-25-years-of-right-wing-terrorism-in-united-states

If we're supposed to treat Muslim extremists as 'far-right,' why does the left bend over backwards to defend them the world over?

Who defended Muslim extremists? Or are you implying that every Muslim is a radical?

Literally calling Benghazi a peaceful protest, and a Muslim terrorist killing soldiers on base 'workplace violence' isn't defending Muslim extremists?
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1NfamousACE_2
11/01/17 11:28:53 AM
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What good actually comes from blaming him?
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 11:29:16 AM
#59:


Anteaterking posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Literally wouldn't be here if not for the program, made solely to pander to 'progressives' who see Islamic terrorism as nothing more than 'workplace violence' or 'peaceful protest,' in President Obama's words.


The diversity visa wasn't formed to help Muslims. It was to help Irish and Italians who had family relations but not close enough to count come to America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/05/02/straight-up-pork-barrel-politics-how-the-green- card-lottery-was-invented-to-help-the-irish/

(remove the space between green and card)

NEVER said it was.
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hockeybub89
11/01/17 11:34:50 AM
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Fucking Democrats politicizing tragedy again. The victims aren't even cold.

Oh....
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Sayoria
11/01/17 11:36:27 AM
#61:


Still voting democrat next election cycle Trump. Sorry, you son of an orangutan.
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Bio1590
11/01/17 11:37:47 AM
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Figures this topic has the usual collection of alt-right shitposters. Sadly just missing a couple.
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 11:38:13 AM
#63:


Sayoria posted...
Still voting democrat next election cycle Trump. Sorry, you son of an orangutan.

Because you support racism, like all Democrats.
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Anteaterking
11/01/17 11:39:12 AM
#64:


darkjedilink posted...
NEVER said it was.

darkjedilink posted...
made solely to pander to 'progressives' who see Islamic terrorism as nothing more than 'workplace violence' or 'peaceful protest,

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TheCyborgNinja
11/01/17 11:40:54 AM
#65:


creativerealms posted...
One or two bad people slipping though the cracks does not mean the program is to blame. No program is perfect. I mean Trumps extreme vetting wouldn't have stopped this man ether.

If he could, hed probably block every Muslim from entering, so technically....
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 11:44:43 AM
#66:


Anteaterking posted...
darkjedilink posted...
NEVER said it was.

darkjedilink posted...
made solely to pander to 'progressives' who see Islamic terrorism as nothing more than 'workplace violence' or 'peaceful protest,

Learn to read. Read that second quote again. Slow it down, sound out the words...
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Sayoria
11/01/17 11:45:22 AM
#67:


darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
Still voting democrat next election cycle Trump. Sorry, you son of an orangutan.

Because you support racism, like all Democrats.

I support free speech and stronger border control which aren't democratic beliefs.
I support diversity, progression, assisted suicide, gun regulation and abortion, which aren't republican beliefs.

My key belief is to have everyone be happy yet maintain a level of balance. Unfortunately, the rich have so much money that they could buy out countries at this point. Unfortunately, trickle down economics does not work and we need more money shifted back into the economy and out of the pockets of the rich. Not saying to give it to the poor, but they are holding so much of our economy back.

So yeah no, I am a moderate who can bitch anyone out. Are we really going to get back on this Say is racist bullshit again? It seems to be happening a lot.
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Heineken14
11/01/17 11:45:55 AM
#68:


darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
Still voting democrat next election cycle Trump. Sorry, you son of an orangutan.

Because you support racism, like all Democrats.


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darkjedilink
11/01/17 11:47:28 AM
#69:


Sayoria posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
Still voting democrat next election cycle Trump. Sorry, you son of an orangutan.

Because you support racism, like all Democrats.

I support free speech and stronger border control which aren't democratic beliefs.
I support diversity, progression, assisted suicide, gun regulation and abortion, which aren't republican beliefs.

My key belief is to have everyone be happy yet maintain a level of balance. Unfortunately, the rich have so much money that they could buy out countries at this point. Unfortunately, trickle down economics does not work and we need more money shifted back into the economy and out of the pockets of the rich. Not saying to give it to the poor, but they are holding so much of our economy back.

So yeah no, I am a moderate who can bitch anyone out. Are we really going to get back on this Say is racist bullshit again? It seems to be happening a lot.

Ever try NOT being racist?
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Sayoria
11/01/17 11:49:27 AM
#70:


darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Sayoria posted...
Still voting democrat next election cycle Trump. Sorry, you son of an orangutan.

Because you support racism, like all Democrats.

I support free speech and stronger border control which aren't democratic beliefs.
I support diversity, progression, assisted suicide, gun regulation and abortion, which aren't republican beliefs.

My key belief is to have everyone be happy yet maintain a level of balance. Unfortunately, the rich have so much money that they could buy out countries at this point. Unfortunately, trickle down economics does not work and we need more money shifted back into the economy and out of the pockets of the rich. Not saying to give it to the poor, but they are holding so much of our economy back.

So yeah no, I am a moderate who can bitch anyone out. Are we really going to get back on this Say is racist bullshit again? It seems to be happening a lot.

Ever try NOT being racist?


Ever try pointing out my many points of racism?
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gatorsPENSbucs
11/01/17 11:50:41 AM
#71:


Solar_Crimson posted...
So, we're going to blame an entire program for the actions of only one person?

Isnt that what democrats and liberals do?
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Tropicalwood
11/01/17 11:50:56 AM
#72:


Sayoria posted...
Ever try pointing out my many points of racism?

orangutan

Racist pos
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Caution998
11/01/17 11:52:48 AM
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If you say anything that is even mildly controversial, you're an automatic racist.
It's the logic of the CTRL-Left.
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legendary_zell
11/01/17 11:53:08 AM
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I came to this country through the Visa lottery and it's disgusting that he chose to point the blame at this. It's given me every opportunity that I've had in my life. I'm an upstanding citizen. In fact I find out tomorrow whether I passed the bar exam.

The fact that a program that provides hope and life changing results to so many people may now be under attack honestly makes my blood boil.
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ReignFury
11/01/17 11:55:29 AM
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This obviously appeals to Trumps voters but I honestly think its a good move. Im also interested if the story is real or not.
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Kineth
11/01/17 11:57:11 AM
#76:


Sayoria posted...

Just for the record, you're arguing with a very racist troll. It's a little disgusting that he has the nerve to call someone racist as an alienating term.
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Heineken14
11/01/17 11:57:42 AM
#78:


Kineth posted...
Sayoria posted...
Ever try pointing out my many points of racism?


Just for the record, you're arguing with a very racist troll.


Well, I mean, he IS a Donnie cultist... so that's kind of a given.
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Kineth
11/01/17 11:59:04 AM
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He was like this, though less brazen, long before Trump was in office.
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philsov
11/01/17 12:00:51 PM
#80:


darkjedilink posted...
If we're supposed to treat Muslim extremists as 'far-right


We're not. Right wing extremism is it's own category.

I'm saying there is a lot of death and destruction that is NOT the result of liberal policy.
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Queen_of_Lazy89
11/01/17 12:41:16 PM
#81:


Trump's travel ban would have done shit to get this guy. He was from Uzbekistan which isn't even middle eastern. It's a former USSR country closer to Russia and India than the actual ME. The guy's first language is even Russian so yeah, I don't know what the Trumpists are thinking when they're acting like the travel ban would have done anything.
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 1:31:23 PM
#82:


philsov posted...
darkjedilink posted...
If we're supposed to treat Muslim extremists as 'far-right


We're not. Right wing extremism is it's own category.

I'm saying there is a lot of death and destruction that is NOT the result of liberal policy.

Except it actually is, because liberals stop anyone from even CONFRONTING Muslim extremism.

Again, President Obama spent eight years classifying Muslim extremism as 'workplace violence' or 'peaceful protest.' Liberals actively fought the so-called 'Muslim ban' just because Trump did it, while actively wanting to let Muslim extremists into the country.

Stop blaming the right for the shit the left fights to allow.
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 1:34:56 PM
#83:


Heineken14 posted...
Kineth posted...
Sayoria posted...
Ever try pointing out my many points of racism?

Just for the record, you're arguing with a very racist troll.

Well, I mean, he IS a Donnie cultist... so that's kind of a given.

Such a Donnie cultist that I voted for Gary Johnson!
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Trulia
11/01/17 1:51:50 PM
#84:


Caution998 posted...
It's nice we have a president with a pair of balls for once.

This.

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Capn Circus
11/01/17 1:58:48 PM
#85:


I love Trump's merit based immigration plan. Very good idea. I'm glad we have a president willing to make necessary changes
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philsov
11/01/17 2:01:19 PM
#86:


darkjedilink posted...
philsov posted...
darkjedilink posted...
If we're supposed to treat Muslim extremists as 'far-right


We're not. Right wing extremism is it's own category.

I'm saying there is a lot of death and destruction that is NOT the result of liberal policy.

Except it actually is, blah blah blah MOOSLIMS


The death and destruction caused by Dylann Roof and Timothy McVeigh (e.g) are not the result of liberal policies. If anything, it's right wing policy that enabled those events and right wing rheteoric that spurred them.
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cerealbox760
11/01/17 2:11:34 PM
#87:


Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
K181 posted...
But I thought Republicans were against politicizing tragedies?

Only if it doesn't benefit them

Only it wont benefit them. If Trump gets rid of the lottery, it wont change much. Republicans will be dumbfounded when the next attack happens. As an atheist myself, I dont mind less crazy religious people running around. However im not gonna pretend this is all its going to take.
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Samurontai
11/01/17 2:13:31 PM
#88:


Trump supporters are always so mind numbingly bad at arguing their points, like holy shit
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cerealbox760
11/01/17 2:13:42 PM
#89:


Capn Circus posted...
I love Trump's merit based immigration plan. Very good idea. I'm glad we have a president willing to make necessary changes

We already have a merit based plan. This is nothing new. Theres not much you can do to reamp the immigration policy. At this point Trump is pandering to his base because nothing will change.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/01/17 2:17:02 PM
#90:


Samurontai posted...
Trump supporters are always so mind numbingly bad at arguing their points, like holy shit

There's really no incentive for them to give any effort because they'll get bites no matter what.
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cjsdowg
11/01/17 2:18:17 PM
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Yet he doesn't say much about how an America was able to the shot 500 people. Funny how that works.
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TheBiggerWiggle
11/01/17 2:18:20 PM
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> trump fails with immigration
> trump fails with guns
> trump is on pace for more mass shootings than any leader in history
> somehow it's the liherals fault

Hmm. Ok.
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Samurontai
11/01/17 2:18:50 PM
#93:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Samurontai posted...
Trump supporters are always so mind numbingly bad at arguing their points, like holy shit

There's really no incentive for them to give any effort because they'll get bites no matter what.


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