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Muffinz0rz
10/28/17 11:35:56 AM
#102:


ElatedVenusaur posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
inb4 nothing actually happens as a result of this

There will be arrests on Monday.

I would bet a partial signature change for one week that nobody of objective importance gets arrested
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prince_leo
10/28/17 11:40:07 AM
#103:


Iodine posted...
Ahh so this is why all the Clinton Uranium stories and the "Democrats colluded with Russia against Trump" nonsense came out this week.

This was my first thought too
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Ammonitida
10/28/17 12:28:21 PM
#106:


Bullet_Wing posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
inb4 nothing actually happens as a result of this

There will be arrests on Monday.

I would bet a partial signature change for one week that nobody of objective importance gets arrested

Who do you consider "objectively important"? Manafort is certainly objectively important


Yeah, his FARA act violations along with his financial issues are certainly important, but neither about about Russia-Trump. Ditto for Flynn.
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The Admiral
10/28/17 12:34:35 PM
#107:


Who will face charges according to the prediction futures market:

Manafort: 62%
Flynn: 27%
Carter Page: 27%
Roger Stone: 17%
Trump Jr: 15%
Kushner: 14%
Comey: 7%
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Glass_Phantom
10/28/17 12:38:27 PM
#110:


Ammonitida posted...
Shadowplay posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Iodine posted...
Ahh so this is why all the Clinton Uranium stories and the "Democrats colluded with Russia against Trump" nonsense came out this week.


It's not "nonsense". The Dems did in fact collude with the Russians against Trump. It's a FACT now.

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

Close your account.


You're clueless.

lol
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BLAKUboy
10/28/17 12:38:47 PM
#111:


Ex-Kefiroth posted...
lmao, there are really people delusional enough to believe it could be Comey?

It's Admiral.
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The Admiral
10/28/17 12:40:40 PM
#113:


BLAKUboy posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
lmao, there are really people delusional enough to believe it could be Comey?

It's Admiral.


I'm sure this made sense in your head. Not so much if you understood my post properly.
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Anteaterking
10/28/17 1:00:41 PM
#114:


Ex-Kefiroth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Comey: 7%

lmao, there are really people delusional enough to believe it could be Comey?


I'm just not sure what they would be charging him with based on what we know.
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Muffinz0rz
10/28/17 1:10:03 PM
#115:


byron posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
inb4 nothing actually happens as a result of this

There will be arrests on Monday.

I would bet a partial signature change for one week that nobody of objective importance gets arrested

A partial gamefaqs signature? Woah, you're a wild guy!

Well I'm not about to bet money on something I haven't been following in the slightest

Plus I don't want to change my entire signature, otherwise I'd lose the whole Pat Benatar streak
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The Admiral
10/28/17 1:10:50 PM
#116:


Anteaterking posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Comey: 7%

lmao, there are really people delusional enough to believe it could be Comey?


I'm just not sure what they would be charging him with based on what we know.


I don't either. That 7% could be conspiracy theorists, or perhaps they think the Trump administration will issue separate charges.
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prince_leo
10/28/17 1:48:00 PM
#117:


The Admiral posted...
Who will face charges according to the prediction futures market:

Manafort: 62%
Flynn: 27%
Carter Page: 27%
Roger Stone: 17%
Trump Jr: 15%
Kushner: 14%
Comey: 7%

except for Comey, this is pretty reasonable
although word on the street is that Flynn has been quiet because he's cooperating with Mueller's team, which means he will probably not be in the first wave
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NadYobWoc
10/28/17 2:19:39 PM
#118:


The Admiral posted...
Who will face charges according to the prediction futures market:

Manafort: 62%
Flynn: 27%
Carter Page: 27%
Roger Stone: 17%
Trump Jr: 15%
Kushner: 14%
Comey: 7%


This seems about right, we knew Manafort, Flynn and Page were in some trouble for a while.
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Muffinz0rz
10/28/17 3:48:30 PM
#119:


Why is manafort in trouble
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Polycosm
10/28/17 3:57:10 PM
#120:


Muffinz0rz posted...
Why is manafort in trouble

If you mean, "why does everyone think he's going down first," it's because:
-his house was raided by investigators
-Mueller's grand jury has been interviewing people close to Manafort (e.g. his real estate agent)
-all sorts of details have leaked about Manafort's financial ties to Russia and Ukraine... and they leave little room for doubt
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Bluebomber182
10/28/17 4:15:02 PM
#121:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Uy0Uznw4E


it's mueller time
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Broseph_Stalin
10/28/17 5:41:55 PM
#122:


Bullet_Wing posted...
Admiral is just reporting going odds. They aren't his predictions


Admiral has said on multiple occasions that this entire thing is a fake scandal that LIBRULS are trying to push and nothing would come of it, including Manafort's part in it.
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_Near_
10/28/17 6:42:23 PM
#123:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Admiral is just reporting going odds. They aren't his predictions


Admiral has said on multiple occasions that this entire thing is a fake scandal that LIBRULS are trying to push and nothing would come of it, including Manafort's part in it.


Oh yeah, he's just parroting the republican playbook. "The investigation has gone on for SO long. WHY don't we have ANYTHING? HUH?"

And whenever someone tries to tell him that it takes time, he just deflects. And he'll deflect even if someone is convicted. Because he lives in his own little world.
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Dash_Harber
10/28/17 10:49:06 PM
#124:


Bullet_Wing posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
lmao, there are really people delusional enough to believe it could be Comey?

It's Admiral.

Admiral is just reporting going odds. They aren't his predictions

How the fuck do they estimate odds for this? I mean, sports odds are based on past performances. Do they base these on these guy's criminal records? Their history of conspiring with foreigners?
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Anteaterking
10/29/17 1:09:28 AM
#125:


Dash_Harber posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
lmao, there are really people delusional enough to believe it could be Comey?

It's Admiral.

Admiral is just reporting going odds. They aren't his predictions

How the fuck do they estimate odds for this? I mean, sports odds are based on past performances. Do they base these on these guy's criminal records? Their history of conspiring with foreigners?


It's all based on people's predictions. Like, in Vegas-style sports gambline, the line is adjusted as more and more people bet in order to even out the money on both sides. They make their money off the rake, not off of being better predictors than their customers.

Likewise, prediction markets start the betting somewhere (let's say it starts at 30% for any of the people in question) and if lots of people are bidding the over it starts moving upward until it hits equilibrium somewhere.
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ssj3vegeta2
10/30/17 7:04:36 AM
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bevan306
10/30/17 8:04:41 AM
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:04:55 AM
#130:


GregShmedley posted...
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/924968571784003584

Manafort and Gates.

Interesting. Glad Manafort went down.

Wonder what's up with Flynn in this case then
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:07:56 AM
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I'm also hearing chatter that Gates is not the "2nd indictment"/there may be another later in the day.
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clearaflagrantj
10/30/17 8:07:58 AM
#132:


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Cocytus
10/30/17 8:10:11 AM
#133:


Paul Manafort
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:12:55 AM
#134:


Doom_Art posted...

Interesting. Glad Manafort went down.

Wonder what's up with Flynn in this case then


probably 'need more evidence first'

anyone else think mueller's eyes always seem to say "i am going to flay you alive"
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:16:01 AM
#135:


Darkman124 posted...
probably 'need more evidence first'

True true. Possible he may have flipped?

Darkman124 posted...
anyone else think mueller's eyes always seem to say "i am going to flay you alive"

"Our Blades Are Sharp" - House Mueller
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:17:49 AM
#136:


house mueller, the product of an unholy alliance between starks and boltons
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bevan306
10/30/17 8:22:36 AM
#137:


lets not allow this to distract us from the lies of the clinton administration
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 8:25:14 AM
#138:


Manafort and his business partner Rick Gates have been indicted for financial crimes that date back well before Manafort joined the Trump campaign. Nothing to do with the dossier hoax. Sorry, #resistance!

Mueller is trying to shake him up in hopes that he will spill the beans on Trump, but that will never happen because the dossier was debunked by internet sleuths months ago!
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:26:08 AM
#139:


Ammonitida posted...
Manafort and his business partner Rick Gates have been indicted for financial crimes that date back well before Manafort joined the Trump campaign. Nothing to do with the dossier hoax. Sorry, #resistance!

Mueller is trying to shake him up in hopes that he will spill the beans on Trump, but that will never happen because the dossier was debunked by internet sleuths months ago!


official charges are unreleased as of yet.
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:26:16 AM
#140:


Ammonitida posted...
Manafort and his business partner Rick Gates have been indicted for financial crimes that date back well before Manafort joined the Trump campaign. Nothing to do with the dossier hoax. Sorry, #resistance!

Mueller is trying to shake him up in hopes that he will spill the beans on Trump, but that will never happen because the dossier was debunked by internet sleuths months ago!

are you copying this from somewhere

this reads like a tweet
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 8:27:03 AM
#141:


Darkman124 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Manafort and his business partner Rick Gates have been indicted for financial crimes that date back well before Manafort joined the Trump campaign. Nothing to do with the dossier hoax. Sorry, #resistance!

Mueller is trying to shake him up in hopes that he will spill the beans on Trump, but that will never happen because the dossier was debunked by internet sleuths months ago!


official charges are unreleased as of yet.


Deductive.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/report-paul-manafort-rick-gates-to-surrender-to-special-counsel.html
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:27:08 AM
#142:


Doom_Art posted...

are you copying this from somewhere


i'd be really amused to see it being posted on other internet forums in near-identical format
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:27:19 AM
#143:


Ammonitida posted...

Deductive.


what are your qualifications?

one of the reasons he has been expected to be indicted is that he received $12 million from a russian official.

fox not covering that isn't reason for you to not do your homework
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 8:28:42 AM
#144:


Gates is a longtime associate of Manafort. According to the Times, his name appeared on documents linked to companies that Manaforts firm created in Cyprus to receive payments from politicians and businesspeople in Eastern Europe.
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:29:29 AM
#145:


Ammonitida posted...
Gates is a longtime associate of Manafort. According to the Times, his name appeared on documents linked to companies that Manaforts firm created in Cyprus to receive payments from politicians and businesspeople in Eastern Europe.


But Mr. Trump fired Mr. Manafort just months later, after reports that he received more than $12 million in undisclosed payments from Viktor F. Yanukovych, the former Ukrainian president and a pro-Russia politician. Mr. Manafort spent years as a political consultant for Mr. Yanukovych.

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1NfamousACE_2
10/30/17 8:29:50 AM
#146:


Doom_Art posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Manafort and his business partner Rick Gates have been indicted for financial crimes that date back well before Manafort joined the Trump campaign. Nothing to do with the dossier hoax. Sorry, #resistance!

Mueller is trying to shake him up in hopes that he will spill the beans on Trump, but that will never happen because the dossier was debunked by internet sleuths months ago!

are you copying this from somewhere

this reads like a tweet


They get their arguments in an email
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 8:30:42 AM
#147:


Darkman124 posted...
Ammonitida posted...

Deductive.


what are your qualifications?

one of the reasons he has been expected to be indicted is that he received $12 million from a russian official.

fox not covering that isn't reason for you to not do your homework


Manafort and his partner's dealings with Russia/Ukraine years ago is not related to Trump-Russia.
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:31:49 AM
#148:


Ammonitida posted...
Manafort and his partner's dealings with Russia/Ukraine years ago is not related to Trump-Russia.


are you agreeing that he was probably indicted for undisclosed payments from a politician who wants to see russia annex ukraine

pls answer yes or no
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 8:32:42 AM
#149:


Darkman124 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Manafort and his partner's dealings with Russia/Ukraine years ago is not related to Trump-Russia.


are you agreeing that he was probably indicted for undisclosed payments from a politician who wants to see russia annex ukraine

pls answer yes or no


Was Rick Gates part of that deal?
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:33:33 AM
#150:


Ammonitida posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Manafort and his partner's dealings with Russia/Ukraine years ago is not related to Trump-Russia.


are you agreeing that he was probably indicted for undisclosed payments from a politician who wants to see russia annex ukraine

pls answer yes or no


Was Rick Gates part of that deal?


we're not talking about rick gates right now

pls answer yes or no
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:33:50 AM
#151:


watching the trumpers squirm right now is pretty fun
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