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Cocytus
10/27/17 9:55:26 AM
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http://www.chron.com/politics/article/55-percent-white-Americans-discrimination-12309101.php

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"A majority of white Americans believe that, as a group, they are discriminated against in the United States today, a joint study by the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and NPR revealed Tuesday.
Over two and a half months in early 2017, researchers polled 3,453 adults from six groups: African Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian Americans, LGBTQ Americans and non-Hispanic Whites. Members of all six groups were asked if they thought discrimination against their own group existed in America today, generally speaking.
Ninety-two percent of African Americans polled said yes, as did 78 percent of Latinos, 75 percent of Native Americans, 61 percent of Asian Americans, 90 percent of LGBTQ people, and 55 percent of white people.
Those who answered in the affirmative were then asked a follow-up question, prompting participants to consider if the discrimination they believe their group experienced was because of the prejudice of individuals or the result of laws and policies.
Sixty-one percent of white Americans who were asked the follow-up question said that they believed the discrimination their group experienced came from individual prejudices. Only 26 percent blamed laws and policies, and 11 percent said both reasons were valid.
That sentiment was in line with all six groups polled; the majority of each group said they believe that the prejudice of the individual was a bigger problem in the U.S. than the policies enacted.
Another finding of the study suggested that income level influenced whether or not a white individual feels discriminated against. As NPR reports: "Lower- and moderate-income white Americans were more likely to say that whites are discriminated against and to say they have felt it, either when applying for a job, raise or promotion or in the college-admissions process."
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That_Happened
10/27/17 9:58:13 AM
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We already had this topic, but thank you for providing this important part that the previous TC left out:

Those who answered in the affirmative were then asked a follow-up question, prompting participants to consider if the discrimination they believe their group experienced was because of the prejudice of individuals or the result of laws and policies.
Sixty-one percent of white Americans who were asked the follow-up question said that they believed the discrimination their group experienced came from individual prejudices. Only 26 percent blamed laws and policies, and 11 percent said both reasons were valid.

This means only 37% of the white people polled were being ridiculous, and considering Trump's approval rating is at 38% I think it's safe to say....lol.
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philsov
10/27/17 9:58:58 AM
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75918715
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Kazi1212
10/27/17 10:03:56 AM
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Remember guys, when white people express their feelings of being discriminated against, theyre lying. When minorities do it theyre telling that truth. Must be something in that water that makes white people lie about this but not minorities
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TheMikh
10/27/17 10:06:22 AM
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what if everyone is being discriminated against
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:08:54 AM
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Every race hates every other race. We dance around this.
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:10:51 AM
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What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"
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That_Happened
10/27/17 10:11:52 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"

Well when that guy is the president...
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Kineth
10/27/17 10:13:23 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"


So what's sad is that you say this while saying "all the minorities", basically causing you to be guilty of exactly what you're accusing others of.
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:14:13 AM
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That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"

Well when that guy is the president...


Anyone can find an example of any stereotype and say the same thing.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 10:14:53 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"

Well when that guy is the president...

Anyone can find an example of any stereotype and say the same thing.

...I have no idea what this sentence was supposed to mean.
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:15:23 AM
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Kineth posted...
LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"


So what's sad is that you say this while saying "all the minorities", basically causing you to be guilty of exactly what you're accusing others of.


So point out a person doing something bad and say theyre whole race does it? OK.
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ViewtifulGrave
10/27/17 10:15:41 AM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Remember guys, when white people express their feelings of being discriminated against, theyre lying. When minorities do it theyre telling that truth. Must be something in that water that makes white people lie about this but not minorities


LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"

Sweeping generalizations
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:16:12 AM
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That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"

Well when that guy is the president...

Anyone can find an example of any stereotype and say the same thing.

...I have no idea what this sentence was supposed to mean.


Just sound out the words...
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:16:35 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Remember guys, when white people express their feelings of being discriminated against, theyre lying. When minorities do it theyre telling that truth. Must be something in that water that makes white people lie about this but not minorities


LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"

Sweeping generalizations


Right.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 10:17:42 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
Just sound out the words...

No the words are all spelled correctly, they just don't make sense as a response to what I said.
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Heineken14
10/27/17 10:18:46 AM
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That_Happened posted...
We already had this topic, but thank you for providing this important part that the previous TC left out:

Those who answered in the affirmative were then asked a follow-up question, prompting participants to consider if the discrimination they believe their group experienced was because of the prejudice of individuals or the result of laws and policies.
Sixty-one percent of white Americans who were asked the follow-up question said that they believed the discrimination their group experienced came from individual prejudices. Only 26 percent blamed laws and policies, and 11 percent said both reasons were valid.

This means only 37% of the white people polled were being ridiculous, and considering Trump's approval rating is at 38% I think it's safe to say....lol.


I feel like this will probably be ignored.
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:19:52 AM
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That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
Just sound out the words...

No the words are all spelled correctly, they just don't make sense as a response to what I said.


"See the presidents racist therefore all white people are racist and work as one united racist mind"

Racist as hell. If anything it causes support for the president.
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tremain07
10/27/17 10:20:53 AM
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Dumbass americans only think in extremes, what else is new. We deserve Trump, this country really is full of morons.
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Kineth
10/27/17 10:21:17 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
Kineth posted...
LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"


So what's sad is that you say this while saying "all the minorities", basically causing you to be guilty of exactly what you're accusing others of.


So point out a person doing something bad and say theyre whole race does it? OK.


I'm not sure what you're intending to say here, but it looks like you simply repeated yourself.
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:23:32 AM
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Kineth posted...
LordMarshal posted...
Kineth posted...
LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"


So what's sad is that you say this while saying "all the minorities", basically causing you to be guilty of exactly what you're accusing others of.


So point out a person doing something bad and say theyre whole race does it? OK.


I'm not sure what you're intending to say here, but it looks like you simply repeated yourself.


You just said "but yer doing it" when the topic is talking about things in general so it made no sense to point it out.
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tremain07
10/27/17 10:24:11 AM
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He's trying to start a racial flamewar, Kineth, don't get in the way. We just need Hoth and Admiral to show up for the true shit flinging to begin.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 10:25:03 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
Just sound out the words...

No the words are all spelled correctly, they just don't make sense as a response to what I said.


"See the presidents racist therefore all white people are racist and work as one united racist mind"

More like "the president is racist, but most white conservatives and many white independents don't think that's a problem so they support him anyway."

EDIT after reading more of your posts I'm not sure if you're very young or just not all there. I don't think we should continue this conversation as we're obviously not on the same level of intellect.
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3khc
10/27/17 10:29:53 AM
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White people ARE discriminated against. Racism has turned everyone against each other. It's a vicious cycle.
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LordMarshal
10/27/17 10:30:16 AM
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That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
That_Happened posted...
LordMarshal posted...
Just sound out the words...

No the words are all spelled correctly, they just don't make sense as a response to what I said.


"See the presidents racist therefore all white people are racist and work as one united racist mind"

More like "the president is racist, but most white conservatives and many white independents don't think that's a problem so they support him anyway."

EDIT after reading more of your posts I'm not sure if you're very young or just not all there. I don't think we should continue this conversation as we're obviously not on the same level of intellect.


No one cares what you say if you just tell others their too stupid to talk to you. No one cares about this poll or a video games sites social board or the posts or users.

Sure man. Minorities are always oppressed by the evil white oppresser and its a joke for white people to ever feel discriminated against. I love hearing your garbage opinions and trolling them with stupid crap to match.
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PhlogPyro
10/27/17 10:32:00 AM
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If we're talking affirmative action, then yes, white people are literally being discriminated against.

I'm sure you'll say that's fine though. "Positive" discrimination and all that.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 10:37:19 AM
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PhlogPyro posted...
If we're talking affirmative action, then yes, white people are literally being discriminated against.

Affirmative Action helps white women and white men too in situations where they are the minority. In fact white women are the largest beneficiaries of AA. So no it's not discrimination against whites. That's why that follow up question is so important: white people are victims of individual discrimination. I get called "white boy" or worse every once in a while. I've met minorities who hate white people. Everybody (regardless of race) deals with that. But there are no laws or policies that cause systemic discrimination against whites as a whole, and there never have been.
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PhlogPyro
10/27/17 10:39:10 AM
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That_Happened posted...
PhlogPyro posted...
If we're talking affirmative action, then yes, white people are literally being discriminated against.

Affirmative Action helps white women and white men too in situations where they are the minority. In fact white women are the largest beneficiaries of AA. So no it's not discrimination against whites. That's why that follow up question is so important: white people are victims of individual discrimination. I get called "white boy" or worse every once in a while. I've met minorities who hate white people. Everybody (regardless of race) deals with that. But there are no laws or policies that cause systemic discrimination against whites as a whole, and there never have been.

Affirmative action for anything other than economic background should be completely done away with. Gender/racial discrimination is not the fucking answer. It should be based on merit.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 10:44:11 AM
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PhlogPyro posted...
That_Happened posted...
PhlogPyro posted...
If we're talking affirmative action, then yes, white people are literally being discriminated against.

Affirmative Action helps white women and white men too in situations where they are the minority. In fact white women are the largest beneficiaries of AA. So no it's not discrimination against whites. That's why that follow up question is so important: white people are victims of individual discrimination. I get called "white boy" or worse every once in a while. I've met minorities who hate white people. Everybody (regardless of race) deals with that. But there are no laws or policies that cause systemic discrimination against whites as a whole, and there never have been.

Affirmative action for anything other than economic background should be completely done away with. Gender/racial discrimination is not the fucking answer. It should be based on merit.

Minorities and women said that for years and we didn't listen. Not that it matters, AA isn't likely to affect you or I in any way. But the fact is, AA doesn't discriminate against us, and there are no laws or policies that discriminate against whites nor have there ever been. The uproar is totally misguided.
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Ammonitida
10/27/17 10:53:56 AM
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That_Happened posted...
We already had this topic, but thank you for providing this important part that the previous TC left out:

Those who answered in the affirmative were then asked a follow-up question, prompting participants to consider if the discrimination they believe their group experienced was because of the prejudice of individuals or the result of laws and policies.
Sixty-one percent of white Americans who were asked the follow-up question said that they believed the discrimination their group experienced came from individual prejudices. Only 26 percent blamed laws and policies, and 11 percent said both reasons were valid.

This means only 37% of the white people polled were being ridiculous, and considering Trump's approval rating is at 38% I think it's safe to say....lol.


That 11% is included in the 26%.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 10:57:17 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
That 11% is included in the 26%.

Are you sure? In the poll the example given at the bottom of page 1 here:

http://www.npr.org/assets/img/2017/10/23/discriminationpoll-whites-tablesxyz.pdf

they use Latinos as the example, and they cite each of the 3 numbers individually (percentage who think discrimination is individuals, percentage who think it's laws and policies, and percentage who think it's both).

EDIT: But what I did get wrong is that the follow up question was only asked of the 55% of whites who believed that discrimination against them was a problem. So really we're talking about 37% of that 55%. So roughly 20% of whites polled thought laws and policies discriminated against them. That's not too bad of a number.
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Kineth
10/27/17 11:16:46 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
Kineth posted...
LordMarshal posted...
Kineth posted...
LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"


So what's sad is that you say this while saying "all the minorities", basically causing you to be guilty of exactly what you're accusing others of.


So point out a person doing something bad and say theyre whole race does it? OK.


I'm not sure what you're intending to say here, but it looks like you simply repeated yourself.


You just said "but yer doing it" when the topic is talking about things in general so it made no sense to point it out.


So I'm not sure how this wasn't clear, but I was talking specifically about your post and it should be pretty obvious what I meant.

tremain07 posted...
He's trying to start a racial flamewar, Kineth, don't get in the way. We just need Hoth and Admiral to show up for the true shit flinging to begin.


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That_Happened
10/27/17 11:32:08 AM
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LordMarshal posted...
That_Happened posted...
EDIT after reading more of your posts I'm not sure if you're very young or just not all there. I don't think we should continue this conversation as we're obviously not on the same level of intellect.

No one cares what you say if you just tell others their too stupid to talk to you.

Take a few laps and hit the showers, man.
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sylverlolol
10/27/17 11:35:52 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
>be in country that mostly caters to you as a white person
>believe that you're discriminated against

That doesn't mean people can't hold prejudiced feelings against white people.
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Deadpool_18
10/27/17 11:39:37 AM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Remember guys, when white people express their feelings of being discriminated against, theyre lying. When minorities do it theyre telling that truth. Must be something in that water that makes white people lie about this but not minorities


I literally had a Hispanic woman tell me you cant be racist against white people. That they were the only people capable of racism. That they invented racism and slavery.

Ive never been more afraid of such extreme stupidity.
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ViewtifulGrave
10/27/17 12:43:37 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
ViewtifulGrave posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Remember guys, when white people express their feelings of being discriminated against, theyre lying. When minorities do it theyre telling that truth. Must be something in that water that makes white people lie about this but not minorities


LordMarshal posted...
What i hate is when theres like one loud and proud white racists and all the minorites point to him and say "See? White people are racist!"

Sweeping generalizations


Right.

So you actually believe that all minorities think that white people are racist?
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Nomadic View
10/27/17 1:42:30 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
>be in country that mostly caters to you as a white person
>believe that you're discriminated against


What laws and organizations cater to white people?
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That_Happened
10/27/17 2:04:49 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
>be in country that mostly caters to you as a white person
>believe that you're discriminated against


What laws and organizations cater to white people?

The housing authorities, to give you thousands of examples. The presidency, to name another. Advertising, capitalism in general, there are lots of things that go our way specifically because we're the majority and because we have the most money to spend. Not saying that's wrong, but it's a fact and it's the nature of the beast.
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UnfairRepresent
10/27/17 2:07:16 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Nomadic View posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
>be in country that mostly caters to you as a white person
>believe that you're discriminated against


What laws and organizations cater to white people?

The housing authorities, to give you thousands of examples. The presidency, to name another.

Yeah that white Supremecist Obama was an embarrasment to all white people

What the flying fuck are you on about?

You're less likely to be president if you're an atheist than if you're black or Indian. No one cares anymore.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 2:13:18 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah that white Supremecist

Supremacist
Obama was an embarrasment

embarrassment

But 1 out of 45 presidents being biracial doesn't help your argument.

UnfairRepresent posted...
You're less likely to be president if you're an atheist than if you're black or Indian

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UnfairRepresent
10/27/17 2:19:28 PM
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That_Happened posted...

But 1 out of 45 presidents being biracial doesn't help your argument.

Kinda does actually.

"this organization caters to white people"

"But a black guy was in charge for literally the past 8 years."

"That doesn't change anything!"

The black dude was literally more popular than the 2 white candidates he fought and the following 3 white candidates.

He's the most popular political candiate in America in the past 10 years. WTF are you on about?

If "Well there has to be LOADS of black guys for it not to be racist!" is your logic then that's just stupid. The idea of electing a bunch of people just because they're black to fill numbers is racism in of itself.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 3:16:40 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
That_Happened posted...

But 1 out of 45 presidents being biracial doesn't help your argument.

Kinda does actually.

Nope. It doesn't.

UnfairRepresent posted...
If "Well there has to be LOADS of black guys for it not to be racist!" is your logic

I wasn't discussing if it was "racist," remember? I explained that it was a system that catered to white people. I even said in my original post that these things were "not necessarily bad" but that they were the natural product of being part of the majority group in a capitalistic society.

Are you ok?

UnfairRepresent posted...
The idea of electing a bunch of people just because they're black to fill numbers is racism in of itself.

I haven't come anywhere near suggesting something like this. Seriously, are you ok?
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alphagamerXXL
10/27/17 3:23:07 PM
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TheMikh posted...
what if everyone is being discriminated against


This is the best post in this topic
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southcoast09
10/27/17 3:25:24 PM
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We are. Affirmative action creates glass ceilings in the workplace, keeping us from deserved promotions. It mandates that Asians and we must achieve higher test scores.

Reverse the roles, here. You guys would say it was discrimination if our system kept them from advancing, so why's it not discrimination on us?

There's really no argument against this.
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That_Happened
10/27/17 3:40:46 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Affirmative action creates glass ceilings in the workplace, keeping us from deserved promotions.

Yep. You rarely see us in the higher levels of the coroporate world. /s
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ThyCorndog
10/27/17 3:41:47 PM
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There's no war on white people
No one is trying to destroy white people
Just wanted to clear things up for some folks. Not really any room to debate since I'm correct
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LinkIsntPink
10/27/17 3:43:28 PM
#50:


Godnorgosh posted...
One problem many white Americans have is that they see racial oppression against them where it doesn't exist, yet are blind to the class oppression that actually makes their lives miserable.

Yep. The only oppression you could make the case for in the US is economic and class oppression. Even then, people can and do still get out of poverty, but it's incredibly difficult to and many people just don't have luck on their side.
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