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Rypt 10/21/17 5:28:24 PM #1: |
Was watching all of those recently and noticed that after the 4th movie things get kind of stupid, but after the 5th one they really go down hill.
I know that the story wasn't meant to be taken too seriously. Every movie is about a group of people, whether it be counselors, campers, or just regular citizens, who get killed by a monster with no personality, except in the 1st movie. But lets say for a second that we take the story seriously. Here's what we have left: Part 2 - The heroine and her man survive Part 3 - The girl who is the main character survives, even though she goes crazy Part 4 - Tommy Jarvis and his sister survive and Jason dies (and should have stayed dead) Part 5 - We get a new killer who dies in the same movie but at least it's not as bad as: Part 6 - Jason comes back to life by getting struck by lighting and Tommy survives again (this is where the series really went to shit) Part 7 - Telekinesis girls survives... lets just forget that part 6 through 10 ever happened Part 8 - Forgot about what happened at the end because I lost interest in Jason going to Manhattan... from this point forward the original story is lost Part 9 - Jason goes to Hell and should have stayed there Part 10 - Jason X... Jason in outer space...wtf were they thinking Then there was the remake which was decent but not sure how he went from going to space to back at the lake or if he even did since it wasn't explained. I'm guessing this one doesn't count towards the story. Ok, so here's what we have if we ignore Part 6 through 10: - The couple from part 2 is still alive - The girl from part 3 - Tommy Jarvis - Also, we never found out what happened to Jason's dad or if he had any siblings... So if I were writing the next movie, in the beginning I would have them poke fun at Part 6 through 10, especially part 10 and the characters could say something like "Can you believe they based these horrible movies off of those murders from the 80's? What the fuck were they thinking?" And another character could say, "Yeah, trying to continue true events with stupid fake storylines is the dumbest shit ever." And that would be that. I would say go back to Crystal Lake, no more Jason. But maybe have Tommy Jarvis go crazy and be the killer. They could even have Cory Feldman play the part and have Jason's old mask so we think it's him. Maybe Jason has a younger brother or sister we don't know about who could be among them so we think they are the killer. Just an idea. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rypt 10/21/17 6:37:56 PM #2: |
bump
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roos1046 Reborn 10/21/17 6:38:33 PM #3: |
that shit is weak
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YourDrunkFather 10/21/17 6:42:52 PM #4: |
Rypt posted...
Was watching all of those recently and noticed that after the 4th movie things get kind of stupid, but after the 5th one they really go down hill. I thought it was pretty obvious but that's what they originally wanted to do. They brought Jason back because it's what people wanted --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheDarkCircle 10/21/17 6:46:32 PM #5: |
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Just give all of Jason's "victims"/people fighting him off a brain. It can be grounded and more serious or still tongue-in-cheek. But give em a brain as opposed to hapless morons. They don't even need to explain Jason's existence anymore. No one cares, it's a horror film. The thing that breaks these movies is all the other characters acting like total morons. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rypt 10/21/17 6:50:00 PM #6: |
Yeah but they cant bring him back after taking all of those machete shots through the head, especially when one was straight through the eye. If they do, it loses its realism/scariness factor and it didn't originally have enough of fictional elements to for them to do that with in this case. If it had been Species or Hellraiser or something that would have been different. But they were trying to make those movies realistic in the beginning and then tried to change it mid way... it was just lame. Only way they could kind of save it is to have some sort of origin movie where we find out Jason is some kind of alien or demonic creature.
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yusiko 10/21/17 6:50:36 PM #7: |
TheDarkCircle posted...
tl:dr actually most of his victims do have brains i never understood this line of thinking that all his victims are morons because while there have been some incredibly stupid characters the fact of the matter is that most of the characters in the movies dont know they are in danger until its too late. we get at most one character thats a fucking idiot in every film who wouldnt have made it out alive no matter what. but every other victim is caught off guard and the final girl lives because she finds out she is in danger in time to be able to fight back --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheDarkCircle 10/21/17 6:53:49 PM #8: |
Rypt posted...
Only way they could kind of save it is to have some sort of origin movie where we find out Jason is some kind of alien or demonic creature. See to me this is the kind of stuff that makes horror movies lame. It doesn't matter. He was a giant deformed undead zombie the moment he appeared. The attempts to explain the unexplainable actually make it LESS realistic and certainly less scary imo. The scariest stuff is always the unknown or the unproven. Once you explain it as a some lame sci-fi shit or some sort of demon, it just is what it is. People are paying to see Jason kill. It doesn't matter why. That's what made the original Halloween so scary. Michael Meyers had no explanation. He was just a killer, and his victims were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Explanations ruined the franchise. Same with Ft13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rypt 10/21/17 6:59:20 PM #9: |
TheDarkCircle posted...
unexplainable actually make it LESS realistic and certainly less scary imo. Well, what I'm saying is if they are going to be unrealistic, do it all the way. If not, then don't do it. And while Michael isn't 100% realistic either, if could still be believable that he could be alive. Maybe he had some serious bulletproof armor on under his clothes and mask? And the origin story Rob Zombie gave him was pretty good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cookie Bag 10/21/17 7:00:41 PM #10: |
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Chicken 10/21/17 7:04:23 PM #11: |
He gets reincarnated as a black woman and at the end she cant kill the last dude so she accuses him of rape and gets shanked because the black inmates think hes a neo nazi rapist.
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Ryven 10/21/17 7:22:53 PM #12: |
IMO, and i'm probably the only one who wants this, but another romp through Crystal Lake with same old Jason back (from the reboot).
But, set it in the wintertime. Have the Jason fodder go ice fishing or whatever for the weekend. You could play around so much with the winter setting - winter kills (icicles, snowmobiles, snowblowers, various ice related tools etc), tracks in the snow, heavy snowfall, the frozen lake would make for a good chase scene, Jason in heavy shredded winter clothing would look badass, etc. I'd be all over that. --- 'You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it.' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rypt 10/21/17 10:45:36 PM #13: |
lol yeah that might be cool, maybe have him break through the ice at the end
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Skye Reynolds 10/21/17 11:01:02 PM #14: |
Jason Goes to Hell would have been a decent standalone horror film, but it didn't fit the Jason lore at all. And the whole "only the chosen one can kill the bad guy" shit doesn't belong in any film ever.
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Jiek_Fafn 10/21/17 11:02:19 PM #15: |
Make it a musical. Jason can still be mute but he should rythmically decapitate his victims.
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Skye Reynolds 10/21/17 11:03:19 PM #16: |
btw,
I've never seen Jason X, but does that one actually follow the continuity of Jason Goes to Hell? Once you say that Jason is ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bringit 10/21/17 11:51:06 PM #17: |
Part 6 is my favorite one so I kinda have to disagree with this topic in general.
7 isn't bad if you can suspend your disbelief enough but I admit that is a hard-ask. Found 8 too slow and plodding and 9 was stupid for a bunch of reasons. X was an awful concept somehow turned into a serviceable (if ridiculous) movie. The problem with doing what's stated in the OP, hand-waiving the previous entries in-universe is that if the new movie isn't a big enough success it was all for nothing (kinda like the reboot they did). It ultimately serves nothing and no-one except potentially disappointing the pre-existing fans -- new ones won't give a crap because they won't know. I think it's easy enough to continue these movies. Have little nods/easter-eggs to the previous ones (except Goes to Hell because that really is impossible to incorporate without ruining the entire franchise) and just put him in another situation to torment a group of people. Lay on the atmospere, get creative with the kills and you got yourself a slasher flick. It'll never get critical praise without reinventing the wheel but if they did that, it wouldn't be a slasher. --- "All will be well." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 10/22/17 12:00:05 AM #18: |
Part 7 is my favorite
And if you put Freddy Vs Jason before Jason x then it does fit into a continuity --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 10/22/17 12:53:12 AM #19: |
yusiko posted...
Part 7 is my favorite They should do a sequel where they have a rematch on Mercury. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 10/22/17 1:03:33 AM #20: |
who cares about the story
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Tsukasa1891 10/22/17 1:23:41 AM #21: |
Ryven posted...
IMO, and i'm probably the only one who wants this, but another romp through Crystal Lake with same old Jason back (from the reboot). I was going to say, instead of another gimmick, just return to crystal lake and have Jason kill some more horny drunken pot smoking teens, but your idea sounds much better. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flintgrandad 10/22/17 1:48:08 AM #22: |
Slashers are dumb
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Gamer99z 10/22/17 1:51:01 AM #23: |
Flintgrandad posted...
Slashers are dumb This. The whole genre is dumb, cheesy, and campy and that's the entire point. If anything the movies trying to take themselves seriously is when they get bad. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__aCEr__ 10/22/17 1:56:26 AM #24: |
OP is a lot of text for a series that's always been schlocky.
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Rypt 10/22/17 12:13:15 PM #25: |
people liked part 6 and 7? really?
a guy digs Jason up and sticks a metal rod through his corpse and he gets struck by lightning and brought back to life? and then he gets sent to the bottom of the lake by a girl with telekinetic powers? If they were going to do that, should have had a witch dig him up and bring him back with magic. Would have been more believable. Maybe it she was the same witch from Pumpkinhead :p ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCraigadile 10/22/17 12:21:26 PM #26: |
Ryven posted...
IMO, and i'm probably the only one who wants this, but another romp through Crystal Lake with same old Jason back (from the reboot). This is a great idea honestly --- "..."-Link Official Druddigon of the Ultra Sun Boards! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gunpo 10/22/17 12:40:10 PM #28: |
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Kitt 10/22/17 12:45:09 PM #29: |
It was dumb from the beginning.
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billcom6 10/22/17 12:49:18 PM #30: |
Fun Fact: I met the screenwriter of the original Friday the 13th last night.
So as someone who has seen every F13 movie, as well as the whole 6 hour Camp Crystal Lake documentary, I will say that there really isn't any way to continue the original storyline. In theory a reboot would the best option, but at that point, why bother? Just leave the series alone and create a new slasher boogeyman. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and XBOX Live: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tsukasa1891 10/22/17 2:08:13 PM #31: |
Rypt posted...
people liked part 6 and 7? really? Because actual witches are real. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 10/22/17 2:26:55 PM #32: |
Tsukasa1891 posted...
Rypt posted...people liked part 6 and 7? really? Witches aren't real Lightning is real --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 10/22/17 5:05:39 PM #33: |
yusiko posted...
Witches aren't real Can you prove that lightning isn't caused by witches? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 10/22/17 5:15:50 PM #34: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
yusiko posted...Witches aren't real Yes because lightning is made by pixies --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 10/22/17 5:18:19 PM #35: |
They missed the boat on not making it dumb by, like, eight movies.
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glitteringfairy 10/22/17 5:34:31 PM #36: |
Reboot it
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Skye Reynolds 10/22/17 5:36:36 PM #37: |
glitteringfairy posted...
Reboot it Friday the 13th, The Reboot: Part II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 10/22/17 5:37:59 PM #38: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
glitteringfairy posted...Reboot it Let's do it. They reboot everything else anyway --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 10/22/17 5:50:38 PM #39: |
Where did Tommy go lol?
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Bringit 10/22/17 7:53:07 PM #40: |
billcom6 posted...
So as someone who has seen every F13 movie, as well as the whole 6 hour Camp Crystal Lake documentary, I will say that there really isn't any way to continue the original storyline. In theory a reboot would the best option, but at that point, why bother? Just leave the series alone and create a new slasher boogeyman. I really don't get this at all. Why reboot? You can just go back to basics. Jason is never going to die so un-explaining his zombie-ness is pointless and though continuity is nice you don't have to incoporate it directly, just some nods if even that. What makes a new boogeyman slashing up folk any better than just having Jason do it again? Shit, you could practically turn each film into an anthology starring Jason so long as the creators don't go out of their way to retcon previous entries, the fans could do most the legwork where the timeline is concerned. I treat slashers in much the same way I do Godzilla movies. --- "All will be well." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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