Poll of the Day > Kefka vs Pennywise vs The Joker

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Revelation34 posted...

Kimbos_Egg posted...

Also pennywise could have killed them anytime, she just felt she never needed to.

Wat.

Foppe posted...

Batman has defeated both Superman and Darkseid, are you telling me that the average Final Fantasy character is stronger than Superman?

He used Kryptonite. Also pretty sure he never beat Darkseid.

He won with the Hellbat suit.
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Foppe posted...

Revelation34 posted...

Kimbos_Egg posted...

Also pennywise could have killed them anytime, she just felt she never needed to.

Wat.

Foppe posted...

Batman has defeated both Superman and Darkseid, are you telling me that the average Final Fantasy character is stronger than Superman?

He used Kryptonite. Also pretty sure he never beat Darkseid.

He won with the Hellbat suit.

so it was the hellbat suit. it would almost like saying X soldier is a badass, he beat a tank by himself. side note he used a tank to beat the other tank
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So Batman defeated nobody because he used his Batgadgets, copy that.
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Foppe posted...

So Batman defeated nobody because he used his Batgadgets, copy that.

gadgets are one thing. they are like weapons. a tank or mech suit is beyond that.
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Poor workers blame their tools. Good workers build better tools. The best workers get their tools to do the work for them.
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My god I forgot how painful it was to read these kind of arguments where people will just stick to 1 answer no matter what.
There will never be a clear cut answer and one side will never convince the other.
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a_doyle_42 posted...

My god I forgot how painful it was to read these kind of arguments where people will just stick to 1 answer no matter what.
There will never be a clear cut answer and one side will never convince the other.

to be clear idk who would win between kefka and pennywise. just when someone poses a argument saying pennywise would win because "this" and kefka has done the same or similar. I point it out

I just can't believe anyone would think the joker could win this at all. I guess unless we count the fact the joker has been in possession of a nuke a time or two before. (not just in injustice either) but idk what kind of damage a nuke would do to either pennywise or kefka
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joker is totally out. Pennywise vs. Kefka. I would go Pennywise, because i don't think you can stop it. I can see It Book 2 coming out where he claws himself out of his trap. Pennywise is the thing that goes bump in the night.

I wish Kefka can win because i love that character, but Pennywise is o.p.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

a_doyle_42 posted...

My god I forgot how painful it was to read these kind of arguments where people will just stick to 1 answer no matter what.
There will never be a clear cut answer and one side will never convince the other.

to be clear idk who would win between kefka and pennywise. just when someone poses a argument saying pennywise would win because "this" and kefka has done the same or similar. I point it out

I just can't believe anyone would think the joker could win this at all. I guess unless we count the fact the joker has been in possession of a nuke a time or two before. (not just in injustice either) but idk what kind of damage a nuke would do to either pennywise or kefka

A nuke is probably as powerful as ultima.
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Revelation34 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

a_doyle_42 posted...

My god I forgot how painful it was to read these kind of arguments where people will just stick to 1 answer no matter what.
There will never be a clear cut answer and one side will never convince the other.

to be clear idk who would win between kefka and pennywise. just when someone poses a argument saying pennywise would win because "this" and kefka has done the same or similar. I point it out

I just can't believe anyone would think the joker could win this at all. I guess unless we count the fact the joker has been in possession of a nuke a time or two before. (not just in injustice either) but idk what kind of damage a nuke would do to either pennywise or kefka

A nuke is probably as powerful as ultima.

with the exception of a alternate universe though I don't think joker has ever used one. I just know in the "death in the family" story arc he had possession of one in which he was selling to middle eastern based terrorists (oddly long before they where all the rage in mainstream media) long story short, he got out of prison to find the police had raided most of his stashes. luckily he still had a nuke so he decided to sell it to regain some of his lost money.
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Revelation34 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

a_doyle_42 posted...

My god I forgot how painful it was to read these kind of arguments where people will just stick to 1 answer no matter what.
There will never be a clear cut answer and one side will never convince the other.

to be clear idk who would win between kefka and pennywise. just when someone poses a argument saying pennywise would win because "this" and kefka has done the same or similar. I point it out

I just can't believe anyone would think the joker could win this at all. I guess unless we count the fact the joker has been in possession of a nuke a time or two before. (not just in injustice either) but idk what kind of damage a nuke would do to either pennywise or kefka

A nuke is probably as powerful as ultima.

From what I've seen in ff6, a nuke is WAAAAAAY more powerful than ultima.
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VeeVees posted...

Revelation34 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

a_doyle_42 posted...

My god I forgot how painful it was to read these kind of arguments where people will just stick to 1 answer no matter what.
There will never be a clear cut answer and one side will never convince the other.

to be clear idk who would win between kefka and pennywise. just when someone poses a argument saying pennywise would win because "this" and kefka has done the same or similar. I point it out

I just can't believe anyone would think the joker could win this at all. I guess unless we count the fact the joker has been in possession of a nuke a time or two before. (not just in injustice either) but idk what kind of damage a nuke would do to either pennywise or kefka

A nuke is probably as powerful as ultima.

From what I've seen in ff6, a nuke is WAAAAAAY more powerful than ultima.

don't recall any nukes in 6 but its been over 10 years. but that did lead me to think, nukes are capable of leveling entire cities and then some. ultima usually doesn't do that. though I think the capabilities of a ultima spell depends on the power of the caster. what spell was it Kuja used to level that entire planet?
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

this again? kefka literally has the power of a god.

now I believe there is a version of the Joker that is a god, but it doesn't give him any fighting power, but probably makes him immortal.

Pennywise is a god/demon. He can't be beaten.

Wasn't he beaten by some normal human's minds?

fettster777 posted...

Kimbos_Egg posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

this again? kefka literally has the power of a god.

now I believe there is a version of the Joker that is a god, but it doesn't give him any fighting power, but probably makes him immortal.

Pennywise is a god/demon. He can't be beaten.

Wasn't he beaten by some normal human's minds?

Hey buddy. They had a slingshot and an inhaler. Nobody can contend with that.
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Who got most confirmed kills?
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Foppe posted...

Who got most confirmed kills?

you never get to see how many kefka kills but he wipes out whole cities in the blink of an eye. over time though, joker probably has kefka beat on that. but as said over time. kefka takes him on kill count in shortest amount of time unless you count the injustice universe. (but thats a bit unfair as I doubt 6's world even has 10 million people to slaughter)
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Foppe posted...

Who got most confirmed kills?

you never get to see how many kefka kills but he wipes out whole cities in the blink of an eye. over time though, joker probably has kefka beat on that. but as said over time. kefka takes him on kill count in shortest amount of time unless you count the injustice universe. (but thats a bit unfair as I doubt 6's world even has 10 million people to slaughter)

pennywise has existed since the beginning of time and has been waiting for humans since before they existed.

But ok.
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

pennywise has existed since the beginning of time and has been waiting for humans since before they existed.

But ok.

Yeah but he kills like three people every 27 years or whatever.
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Smarkil posted...

Kimbos_Egg posted...

pennywise has existed since the beginning of time and has been waiting for humans since before they existed.

But ok.

Yeah but he kills like three people every 27 years or whatever.

sure.
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Foppe posted...

Who got most confirmed kills?

you never get to see how many kefka kills but he wipes out whole cities in the blink of an eye. over time though, joker probably has kefka beat on that. but as said over time. kefka takes him on kill count in shortest amount of time unless you count the injustice universe. (but thats a bit unfair as I doubt 6's world even has 10 million people to slaughter)

pennywise has existed since the beginning of time and has been waiting for humans since before they existed.

But ok.

I really don't know a lot about the character. notice i didn't even mention him in that post
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Foppe posted...

Who got most confirmed kills?

you never get to see how many kefka kills but he wipes out whole cities in the blink of an eye. over time though, joker probably has kefka beat on that. but as said over time. kefka takes him on kill count in shortest amount of time unless you count the injustice universe. (but thats a bit unfair as I doubt 6's world even has 10 million people to slaughter)

"Cities" in ff6 are more like villages.
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VeeVees posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Foppe posted...

Who got most confirmed kills?

you never get to see how many kefka kills but he wipes out whole cities in the blink of an eye. over time though, joker probably has kefka beat on that. but as said over time. kefka takes him on kill count in shortest amount of time unless you count the injustice universe. (but thats a bit unfair as I doubt 6's world even has 10 million people to slaughter)

"Cities" in ff6 are more like villages.

which is why I said the joker probably surpasses him in body count. now you want to take in damage to the world in general kefka has him beat by a long shot.
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Joker reshaped the universe once.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

now I believe there is a version of the Joker that is a god, but it doesn't give him any fighting power, but probably makes him immortal.

He is accidentally given the powers of Bat-Mite I believe (I think he was trying to give Batman his powers but missed). One of those higher-dimensional beings like the being with the weird name who even the most powerful variants of Superman can only deal with by tricking him into saying his name backwards and thus having to go home to his dimension. That thing about Superman destroying a solar system with a sneeze? That was because of magical sneezing powder poofed into existence by one of these guys to mess with Superman, and arguably the REAL reason the sneeze was that destructive.

Among the things Joker can do while having those powers are high level reality warping (global scale if desired), easily killing Batman, bringing batman back to life from the dead so he can kill him in a different way, etc. I forget how they managed to convince/trick him to give the powers back up, but during the time he had them he was basically among the strongest beings in the DC universe (due to possessing powers that normally should only be possessed by outsiders).

It definitely gives him a vast amount of fighting power. "Fortunately," his primary concern was having fun by killing batman in every way he could think of. Likely, he is beyond planet buster with that power.
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

now I believe there is a version of the Joker that is a god, but it doesn't give him any fighting power, but probably makes him immortal.

He is accidentally given the powers of Bat-Mite I believe (I think he was trying to give Batman his powers but missed). One of those higher-dimensional beings like the being with the weird name who even the most powerful variants of Superman can only deal with by tricking him into saying his name backwards and thus having to go home to his dimension. That thing about Superman destroying a solar system with a sneeze? That was because of magical sneezing powder poofed into existence by one of these guys to mess with Superman, and arguably the REAL reason the sneeze was that destructive.

Among the things Joker can do while having those powers are high level reality warping (global scale if desired), easily killing Batman, bringing batman back to life from the dead so he can kill him in a different way, etc. I forget how they managed to convince/trick him to give the powers back up, but during the time he had them he was basically among the strongest beings in the DC universe (due to possessing powers that normally should only be possessed by outsiders).

It definitely gives him a vast amount of fighting power. "Fortunately," his primary concern was having fun by killing batman in every way he could think of. Likely, he is beyond planet buster with that power.
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no I was talking about some story arc (never finishied it) where it was hinting he was the god of laughter, and had always been around since way before batman and anyone else in gotham pretty much.
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Haven't heard of that one. I tend to favor the red hood origin version anyway.
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

Haven't heard of that one. I tend to favor the red hood origin version anyway.
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you mean his origin from the killing joke? and yeah this was some weird shit I think going on in the new 52 along with there being apparently 3 jokers.
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Kefka is the clear winner and rightfully so. You would be hard pressed to find a Jester that could ever even match his power.

Might and magic isn't necessarily his best strength though. He is a cunning, manipulative, sadistic bastard. Combo that with when he finally transcends into a god and you have one of the best fictional villains in history.
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Joker has something the other two don't: Indestructable plot armor.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

Haven't heard of that one. I tend to favor the red hood origin version anyway.
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you mean his origin from the killing joke? and yeah this was some weird shit I think going on in the new 52 along with there being apparently 3 jokers.

Its his original origin from the comics, and has been referenced in several series I believe.

The details vary (such as whether he was a smart criminal, or someone who just got forced into wearing the hood), but it basically goes like this:
The Red Hood is someone with a "Red Hood" that is more like a helmet then a hood. The hood fully hides his face, but allows him to see out of it using 1-way mirrors or some such. During some criminal activity where Batman is attempting to thrwart him, he falls into a vat of chemicals. He swims out through a pipe, due to his helmet also serving as a makeshift short-term diving helmet. But he still breaths in fumes from the chemicals and such. He gets home, looks in the mirror, and snaps.

Details vary from version to version. In one of the series, I recall the "joker" of an alternate world where the heroes are villains and vice versa still wearing his hood.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

now I believe there is a version of the Joker that is a god, but it doesn't give him any fighting power, but probably makes him immortal.

He is accidentally given the powers of Bat-Mite I believe (I think he was trying to give Batman his powers but missed). One of those higher-dimensional beings like the being with the weird name who even the most powerful variants of Superman can only deal with by tricking him into saying his name backwards and thus having to go home to his dimension. That thing about Superman destroying a solar system with a sneeze? That was because of magical sneezing powder poofed into existence by one of these guys to mess with Superman, and arguably the REAL reason the sneeze was that destructive.

Among the things Joker can do while having those powers are high level reality warping (global scale if desired), easily killing Batman, bringing batman back to life from the dead so he can kill him in a different way, etc. I forget how they managed to convince/trick him to give the powers back up, but during the time he had them he was basically among the strongest beings in the DC universe (due to possessing powers that normally should only be possessed by outsiders).

It definitely gives him a vast amount of fighting power. "Fortunately," his primary concern was having fun by killing batman in every way he could think of. Likely, he is beyond planet buster with that power.
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no I was talking about some story arc (never finishied it) where it was hinting he was the god of laughter, and had always been around since way before batman and anyone else in gotham pretty much.

I remember that one, it was right before Batman got replaced by a younger ex-marine James Gordon in a Patlabor batsuit.
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

Haven't heard of that one. I tend to favor the red hood origin version anyway.
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you mean his origin from the killing joke? and yeah this was some weird shit I think going on in the new 52 along with there being apparently 3 jokers.

Its his original origin from the comics, and has been referenced in several series I believe.

The details vary (such as whether he was a smart criminal, or someone who just got forced into wearing the hood), but it basically goes like this:
The Red Hood is someone with a "Red Hood" that is more like a helmet then a hood. The hood fully hides his face, but allows him to see out of it using 1-way mirrors or some such. During some criminal activity where Batman is attempting to thrwart him, he falls into a vat of chemicals. He swims out through a pipe, due to his helmet also serving as a makeshift short-term diving helmet. But he still breaths in fumes from the chemicals and such. He gets home, looks in the mirror, and snaps.

Details vary from version to version. In one of the series, I recall the "joker" of an alternate world where the heroes are villains and vice versa still wearing his hood.
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I know the origin story. I misread your post for some reason and thought you said under the red hood which confused me.
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Foppe posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

now I believe there is a version of the Joker that is a god, but it doesn't give him any fighting power, but probably makes him immortal.

He is accidentally given the powers of Bat-Mite I believe (I think he was trying to give Batman his powers but missed). One of those higher-dimensional beings like the being with the weird name who even the most powerful variants of Superman can only deal with by tricking him into saying his name backwards and thus having to go home to his dimension. That thing about Superman destroying a solar system with a sneeze? That was because of magical sneezing powder poofed into existence by one of these guys to mess with Superman, and arguably the REAL reason the sneeze was that destructive.

Among the things Joker can do while having those powers are high level reality warping (global scale if desired), easily killing Batman, bringing batman back to life from the dead so he can kill him in a different way, etc. I forget how they managed to convince/trick him to give the powers back up, but during the time he had them he was basically among the strongest beings in the DC universe (due to possessing powers that normally should only be possessed by outsiders).

It definitely gives him a vast amount of fighting power. "Fortunately," his primary concern was having fun by killing batman in every way he could think of. Likely, he is beyond planet buster with that power.
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no I was talking about some story arc (never finishied it) where it was hinting he was the god of laughter, and had always been around since way before batman and anyone else in gotham pretty much.

I remember that one, it was right before Batman got replaced by a younger ex-marine James Gordon in a Patlabor batsuit.

oh so thats the story arc gordon becomes batman. as said I never finished it. don't worry i'm not going to whine about spoilers as much of comic book lore has been spoiled for me already.
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More like the story arc leading up to the Gordon arc.
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Kefka stomps.
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