Poll of the Day > I just played the torture scene in GTA5

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minervo
10/08/17 4:02:58 PM
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Wasn't as bad as critics said it was. I'm disappointed.
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RCtheWSBC
10/08/17 4:03:47 PM
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Damn those critics!

Damn this heat...
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MICHALECOLE
10/08/17 4:11:02 PM
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It was pretty bad. Not No Russian bad or Spec Ops: The Line bad, but pretty bad
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minervo
10/08/17 4:32:20 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Damn those critics!

Damn this heat...


I am horny, can you provide us with pix of your tits?
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RCtheWSBC
10/08/17 4:33:12 PM
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lmao
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minervo
10/08/17 4:35:24 PM
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Well, it was worth a shot.
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wwinterj25
10/08/17 5:18:12 PM
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They never are as bad as the media makes out. Take a look at what happened with Manhunt 2 and then play the uncensored version to find out. The same can be said for The Stick of Truth too.
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KevinceKostner
10/08/17 5:53:49 PM
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Manhunt 2 is silly now, the graphics are so low poly the violence doesn't have any impact.
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helIy
10/08/17 6:44:54 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
It was pretty bad. Not No Russian bad or Spec Ops: The Line bad, but pretty bad

no Russian wasn't Jack shit

it was a boring mission
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TheWorstPoster
10/08/17 6:46:02 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
They never are as bad as the media makes out. Take a look at what happened with Manhunt 2 and then play the uncensored version to find out. The same can be said for The Stick of Truth too.


You try not being a gamer, or exposed to that type of thing at all, and then take a look at it.

Most of the journalists in the media are ignorant of gaming, and likely never played anything past Pac-Man in their lives.
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ninjabay
10/08/17 6:46:25 PM
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it wasn't that bad

Kinda uncofortable but not horrible
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mooreandrew58
10/08/17 6:55:37 PM
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it or no russian was bad.

how about in MGS V where you are forced to kill your own soliders as their commander. to make it worse they simply snap to attention and salute you telling you to do what you gotta do
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zeldamasterkid0
10/08/17 7:00:45 PM
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tbh Stick of Truth was worse with the rather intimate scene that was cut outside of the US and that's 2D cutout animation. GTA V's "torture" was tame in comparison.
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ninjabay
10/08/17 7:01:22 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
it or no russian was bad.

how about in MGS V where you are forced to kill your own soliders as their commander. to make it worse they simply snap to attention and salute you telling you to do what you gotta do


yeah that mission was hard... specially if you are using them to progress the missions
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mooreandrew58
10/08/17 7:02:09 PM
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I personally thought trevor was out of character in that scene talking about how he didn't agree with torture. he struck me as the kind of guy that wouldn't give a fuck especially if he was the one dealing it out.
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Mead
10/08/17 7:05:04 PM
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That scene bothered me

Not because of what was portrayed, obviously there are worse things depicted in games and other media, but the fact that the game forces you the player to methodically torture someone to progress was unsettling to say the least
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mooreandrew58
10/08/17 7:06:24 PM
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Mead posted...
That scene bothered me

Not because of what was portrayed, obviously there are worse things depicted in games and other media, but the fact that the game forces you the player to methodically torture someone to progress was unsettling to say the least


but killing people to go through the game is fine.
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Mead
10/08/17 7:07:43 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Mead posted...
That scene bothered me

Not because of what was portrayed, obviously there are worse things depicted in games and other media, but the fact that the game forces you the player to methodically torture someone to progress was unsettling to say the least


but killing people to go through the game is fine.


Sure. The two things are contextually very different.
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mooreandrew58
10/08/17 7:10:10 PM
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Mead posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Mead posted...
That scene bothered me

Not because of what was portrayed, obviously there are worse things depicted in games and other media, but the fact that the game forces you the player to methodically torture someone to progress was unsettling to say the least


but killing people to go through the game is fine.


Sure. The two things are contextually very different.


my point being you are playing a game where you always play people that are morally off by a long shot. its kind of the appeal of the game.

you don't play it but I mean trevor in a scene fucks another dudes woman the proceeds to kill the dude when he confronts him over it. yeah hes a nice guy. he'd never torture anyone.

I also recall him being a bit of a bully that juggalo dude. bullying to me is just a lighter form of torture, and one where you don't do it trying to obtain anything, you just do it for the fun of it.
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DocDelicious
10/08/17 7:49:35 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
no russian

Only good thing to have ever come from CoD.
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mooreandrew58
10/08/17 7:51:24 PM
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DocDelicious posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
no russian

Only good thing to have ever come from CoD.


its easily the most memorable imo. I personally like games that challenge your morality though. especially when its a case where the story makes it a forced situation as in the character you are playing isn't that kind of person but they are forced into a situation where they must. because it always makes you think "what would I do in that situation"
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InfiniteMick
10/08/17 8:48:32 PM
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GTA protagonists have always been pretty ruthless, but Trevor acts completely without conscience. He plays it a little too straight for me.
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mooreandrew58
10/08/17 8:50:04 PM
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InfiniteMick posted...
GTA protagonists have always been pretty ruthless, but Trevor acts completely without conscience. He plays it a little too straight for me.


yeah which is why it bugged he mentions he dislikes the idea of torture. like WTF when did you get a conscience?
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MICHALECOLE
10/08/17 11:41:15 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
InfiniteMick posted...
GTA protagonists have always been pretty ruthless, but Trevor acts completely without conscience. He plays it a little too straight for me.


yeah which is why it bugged he mentions he dislikes the idea of torture. like WTF when did you get a conscience?

He says he doesnt like it because everything they say is a lie when youre torturing them
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mooreandrew58
10/08/17 11:46:05 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
InfiniteMick posted...
GTA protagonists have always been pretty ruthless, but Trevor acts completely without conscience. He plays it a little too straight for me.


yeah which is why it bugged he mentions he dislikes the idea of torture. like WTF when did you get a conscience?

He says he doesnt like it because everything they say is a lie when youre torturing them


didn't remember that. but thats a load of bull. sure some are capable of lying under torture but some are going to spill their guts and be honest.I mean if torture wasn't effective military would have abandoned it a long time ago.

you gotta make them think telling the truth will make it end, and that if it does turn out to be a lie it will only get much worse.
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helIy
10/09/17 12:01:58 AM
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Mead posted...
That scene bothered me

Not because of what was portrayed, obviously there are worse things depicted in games and other media, but the fact that the game forces you the player to methodically torture someone to progress was unsettling to say the least

yeah, i would have preferred an option to skip that scene entirely
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helIy
10/09/17 12:03:19 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
didn't remember that. but thats a load of bull. sure some are capable of lying under torture but some are going to spill their guts and be honest

if i was being tortured i would say literally anything and everything i could to make them stop. be it lies or the truth

but the thing is, the torturer doesn't have any clue whether or not you're telling the truth or not. so even if you are telling them the truth, they could just as easily not believe you and keep on torturing, so it effectively means that it doesn't matter at all what you say.
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mooreandrew58
10/09/17 12:05:28 AM
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helIy posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
didn't remember that. but thats a load of bull. sure some are capable of lying under torture but some are going to spill their guts and be honest

if i was being tortured i would say literally anything and everything i could to make them stop. be it lies or the truth

but the thing is, the torturer doesn't have any clue whether or not you're telling the truth or not. so even if you are telling them the truth, they could just as easily not believe you and keep on torturing, so it effectively means that it doesn't matter at all what you say.


you take them for their word but don't release them. you come back after verifying their story. and if lies you make it worse for them or outright kill them since now they can't be trusted. you gotta make them believe you will do that though to maximize chances of getting the truth the first time. tell them you'll kill their family, hell there dog even, and sell it when you say it.

as said military wouldn't keep doing it if it hasn't proved useful at all.
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Miroku_of_Nite1
10/09/17 12:11:53 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
InfiniteMick posted...
GTA protagonists have always been pretty ruthless, but Trevor acts completely without conscience. He plays it a little too straight for me.


yeah which is why it bugged he mentions he dislikes the idea of torture. like WTF when did you get a conscience?


He flat out says that torture is for the pleasure of the person doing the torture.

The thing about Trevor is he acts without conscience, but he is honest about who he is and what he does. Michael says he has a conscience but has shown to be underhanded in everything he does.
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mooreandrew58
10/09/17 12:14:06 AM
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
InfiniteMick posted...
GTA protagonists have always been pretty ruthless, but Trevor acts completely without conscience. He plays it a little too straight for me.


yeah which is why it bugged he mentions he dislikes the idea of torture. like WTF when did you get a conscience?


He flat out says that torture is for the pleasure of the person doing the torture.

The thing about Trevor is he acts without conscience, but he is honest about who he is and what he does. Michael says he has a conscience but has shown to be underhanded in everything he does.


yeah cause i'm going to believe a meth heads opinion on the matter lol. i'm sure some people do enjoy torture. but if that was the sole case more people would do it without expecting answers out of people
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helIy
10/09/17 11:50:53 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
yeah cause i'm going to believe a meth heads opinion on the matter lol.

well he hasn't really done anything to make you think otherwise.

there's the ONE time he snaps, and that's it. trevor is probably the best character in the game because he seems the most actually human.
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CwebbMichSac4
10/09/17 11:54:24 AM
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fettster777
10/09/17 12:00:14 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
MICHALECOLE posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
InfiniteMick posted...
GTA protagonists have always been pretty ruthless, but Trevor acts completely without conscience. He plays it a little too straight for me.


yeah which is why it bugged he mentions he dislikes the idea of torture. like WTF when did you get a conscience?

He says he doesnt like it because everything they say is a lie when youre torturing them


didn't remember that. but thats a load of bull. sure some are capable of lying under torture but some are going to spill their guts and be honest.I mean if torture wasn't effective military would have abandoned it a long time ago.

you gotta make them think telling the truth will make it end, and that if it does turn out to be a lie it will only get much worse.


I think he means even if they don't have the information that the torturer is seeking they will lie by saying that they do to get it to end and give false information.
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ninjabay
10/09/17 5:38:44 PM
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The fact it forces you to do it is the worse part but still... it's not that bad
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Dikitain
10/09/17 6:34:43 PM
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I've seen worse tourture on network television.

"But they don't let you act it out!"

If by act it out you mean "press x to torture", then yes. Counter point though, play the PS2 Punisher game. That has WAY worse torture and it is more then just one or two scenes. The entire game is built around it.
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Mead
10/09/17 6:39:26 PM
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It's almost like people have different opinions about things like that
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darkknight109
10/09/17 7:27:29 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
I mean if torture wasn't effective military would have abandoned it a long time ago.

Nearly all first world militaries *did* abandon it a long time ago for that exact reason.

If you are being tortured, you say what you have to to make the torture stop. That may or may not be the truth. It's a completely unreliable way of obtaining information, and that's been verified by numerous studies on the subject through the years.
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mooreandrew58
10/09/17 9:11:31 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
I mean if torture wasn't effective military would have abandoned it a long time ago.

Nearly all first world militaries *did* abandon it a long time ago for that exact reason.

If you are being tortured, you say what you have to to make the torture stop. That may or may not be the truth. It's a completely unreliable way of obtaining information, and that's been verified by numerous studies on the subject through the years.


well nowdays I assume anyone in a military having info worth having has had some training to toughen them up for torture. regular grunts wouldn't have any info worth getting. though idk thats just speculation to be fair.
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