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SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 12:55:27 AM #301:	#2 Mysterious Figure: (BBSFM, Young Xehanort hooded) Second hardest fight Hardest solo fight Hardest fight Aqua and Ventus can be involved in Hardest cloaked fight Hardest Xehanort fight of any of his forms Hardest True Organization XIII fight Hardest handheld fight. Hardest fight you get a Keyblade for winning Hardest fight at Castle Oblivion/Land of Departure Hardest non Keyblade weilder fight. "Huh? Heh!" (Terra) "Huh! Hah!" (Ventus) "Uh! Eh!" (Aqua) The game doesn't even give you an info bar telling you to beat him. Makes sense, you'll figure it out more than soon enough. Dark Impetus is so incredible and fits this fight perfectly, (and you'll hear it god knows how many times, but usually only the first minute or so) it's wild and frantic just like this fight, which will quickly drive you to absolute max mental capacity. You will go to sleep thinking about this fight. The fight is in incredible mix of RNG, luck (the non RNG type) muscle memory, timing, pattern recognition, execution, and complete knowledge of your opponent. There is no build up, you'll feel yourself getting better, but it won't be like you'll just keep getting closer and closer, you will just more consistently get to phase 2. You may start at getting to phase 2 maybe 1 out of every 10 times, and when you get better you'll maybe make it there every 4-6 out of every 10. It s big difference. So, why the fuck does this fight give people nightmares....? I present to you courtesy of KH Wikia Mysterious Figure's moveset.... Ethereal Blade short combo: Attacks with three quick strikes. Ethereal Blade long combo: Attacks with an extended sword combo. Dash attack: Transforms his blades into a spear and dashes forward, then flips backward. X wave: Jumps back and releases an X-shaped shockwave from his blades that tracks the protagonist. Spear orbs: Summons several orbs that fire spears of energy at the protagonist from every direction. This attack can continue during the Unknown's other attacks. Sonic attack: Quickly darts around the battlefield, knocking the protagonist high into the air when he hits them. Whirlwind: Summons a tornado that scatters the protagonist's deck commands when it hits them. Vanish: Becomes invisible. In this state, he cannot be locked on. Raging Storm: Summons three vortexes of flame around himself and hovers around the battlefield. The flames stun the protagonist when they hit them. In later phases of the battle, he will combine Raging Storm with some of his other abilities, usually his Long Combo. Summon copies: Summons four copies of himself to overwhelm the player. Each of them share his abilities, excluding vanish, and there is no set pattern to their attacks. However, the copies can be easily destroyed with a clean hit. Mega Flare: Summons a huge sphere of flames that explodes, inflicting massive damage and sometimes igniting the protagonist. Meteor: Summons a meteor to fall on the battlefield and explode. Doom: Fires a web of energy at the protagonist and starts a five second countdown. (Decreases everytime used) It is Game Over when the countdown reaches 0. Collision Magnet: Leaps into the air and casts out a lasso of energy that snares the protagonist and pulls them toward him for a quick slash. In the Final Mix version of the game, it is possible to Air Slide out of the whip. Renewal Barrier: If the protagonist attacks him head-first without an opening, or attacks constantly with a long combo, he will parry the player's attack and recover a bit of health. Time reversal: At any random moment when the protagonist deals damage to him, he could potentially stop and reverse time to the precise moment before he is hit, recovering some of his health in the process. As soon as time is restored, he uses one of his other attacks before the protagonist can react. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847466] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>#2 Mysterious Figure: (BBSFM, Young Xehanort hooded) Second hardest fight Hardest solo fight Hardest fight Aqua and Ventus can be involved in Hardest cloaked fight Hardest Xehanort fight of any of his forms Hardest True Organization XIII fight Hardest handheld fight. Hardest fight you get a Keyblade for winning Hardest fight at Castle Oblivion/Land of Departure Hardest non Keyblade weilder fight. "Huh? Heh!" (Terra) "Huh! Hah!" (Ventus) "Uh! Eh!" (Aqua) The game doesn't even give you an info bar telling you to beat him. Makes sense, you'll figure it out more than soon enough. Dark Impetus is so incredible and fits this fight perfectly, (and you'll hear it god knows how many times, but usually only the first minute or so) it's wild and frantic just like this fight, which will quickly drive you to absolute max mental capacity. You will go to sleep thinking about this fight. The fight is in incredible mix of RNG, luck (the non RNG type) muscle memory, timing, pattern recognition, execution, and complete knowledge of your opponent. There is no build up, you'll feel yourself getting better, but it won't be like you'll just keep getting closer and closer, you will just more consistently get to phase 2. You may start at getting to phase 2 maybe 1 out of every 10 times, and when you get better you'll maybe make it there every 4-6 out of every 10. It s big difference. So, why the fuck does this fight give people nightmares....? I present to you courtesy of KH Wikia Mysterious Figure's moveset.... Ethereal Blade short combo: Attacks with three quick strikes. Ethereal Blade long combo: Attacks with an extended sword combo. Dash attack: Transforms his blades into a spear and dashes forward, then flips backward. X wave: Jumps back and releases an X-shaped shockwave from his blades that tracks the protagonist. Spear orbs: Summons several orbs that fire spears of energy at the protagonist from every direction. This attack can continue during the Unknown's other attacks. Sonic attack: Quickly darts around the battlefield, knocking the protagonist high into the air when he hits them. Whirlwind: Summons a tornado that scatters the protagonist's deck commands when it hits them. Vanish: Becomes invisible. In this state, he cannot be locked on. Raging Storm: Summons three vortexes of flame around himself and hovers around the battlefield. The flames stun the protagonist when they hit them. In later phases of the battle, he will combine Raging Storm with some of his other abilities, usually his Long Combo. Summon copies: Summons four copies of himself to overwhelm the player. Each of them share his abilities, excluding vanish, and there is no set pattern to their attacks. However, the copies can be easily destroyed with a clean hit. Mega Flare: Summons a huge sphere of flames that explodes, inflicting massive damage and sometimes igniting the protagonist. Meteor: Summons a meteor to fall on the battlefield and explode. Doom: Fires a web of energy at the protagonist and starts a five second countdown. (Decreases everytime used) It is Game Over when the countdown reaches 0. Collision Magnet: Leaps into the air and casts out a lasso of energy that snares the protagonist and pulls them toward him for a quick slash. In the Final Mix version of the game, it is possible to Air Slide out of the whip. Renewal Barrier: If the protagonist attacks him head-first without an opening, or attacks constantly with a long combo, he will parry the player's attack and recover a bit of health. Time reversal: At any random moment when the protagonist deals damage to him, he could potentially stop and reverse time to the precise moment before he is hit, recovering some of his health in the process. As soon as time is restored, he uses one of his other attacks before the protagonist can react.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 12:56:15 AM #302:	That is 15 attacks. 15.... And his clones can use the entire other 14 (maybe they can reclone themselves, I don't know, I've never had a free second to pay attention So let's break down why exactly this is so hard from that moves list. And before we go further. I want to give an idea just how hard. Because there is a fucking chasm the size of Ireland between #3 and #2. So I did an experiment. Sora level 50 (hardest difficulty) vs Sephiroth and Unknown KH (no items [except Heartless Angel Elixers], no summons, Kingdom Key only equipment) Sora level 99, Decisive Pumpkin, 3 ribbons and Grand Ribbon and 4 Full Bloom+ vs Lingering Will (max Megalixers all party memebers) (standard) Aqua level 71 (for anyone who knows how this fight works defense is irrelevant cause he OHKOs you on anything, and you have strength cap so once you hit level 64 or so level doesn't matter anymore with best Keyblade...) Royal Radience. (Standard) I beat Seph and Unknown COMBINED..... in less attempts then it took to beat Mysterious Figure with Aqua.... we'll talk Lingering soon enough, reminder, it's ranked higher.... So 3 and 4 down on max difficulty with a ton of handicaps before I could defeat #2 by attempts with maxed out everything on second easiest difficulty. To the moves. Note they all Ohko you without Second Chance so I don't feel the need to point that out. His standard 3 hit combo is fine. Just roll/slide. He has deceptively wide hit boxes on all his attacks, so get further away then it seems you might need. His much longer attack however is pure shit. Much easier to get hit by. If you get caught by one you will be hit by all, each hit has a chance for stun proc (which should be obvious is absoltely instant death in this fight), and to cap it off his clones LOVE spamming this attack, nothing like a ton of clones all hitting you in Chain combo at the same time with every hit being able to stun you. It's even better against a wall because sometimes them hitting you into the wall will proc your once more ability meaning that the next combo, (which you can't escape from by the way, you are still Chain locked) will just kill you. Loving this so far. He loves to do this while clones are invisible and he spams MegaFlare... good luck. Dash attack. I never noticed he transformed it into a spear here... I guess that just says how hard this fucking fight is... X Wave: Thank GOD for this attack!!!! This thing was among Vanitas Lingering Spirit and Young Xehanorts worst attacks... Here I think anyone will agree is probably the best thing you can see. When you beat him it's probably because he used this attack a lot. He will jump back and fire at you a rapidly fast tracking X attack, if you are close to him (and you should be) do not dodge it.... THUNDER SURGE HIM!!!!! In order to win you have to eventually kill him. This is your chance to do actual damage. The I frames in Thunder Surge will protect you, and you can go right though this attack and hit him. He is also programmed to do single attacks up to 3 times in a row if the attack fails. Pray to god he teleports away and does it again, then again. This is how you beat this guy. This attack right here. Sphere orbs... technically if you somehow only get hit by one (no chance) this isn't a one Hit KO, and will only do a percentage of your attack, if that somehow happens do not heal, wait till he hits you again to take you to 1 HP then heal. This can be chained to multiple attacks and is so much harder to dodge then you'd think. A lot of times I would actually just heal for the Leaf Bracer invincibility to try to not get pulverized by this, cause so many times I died when I thought I should have still been in combo state according to the game. Sonic attack. Heal in the air if you can. Best advice I can give here. Also, try to go to other side of field with air dashes. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847505] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>That is 15 attacks. 15.... And his clones can use the entire other 14 (maybe they can reclone themselves, I don't know, I've never had a free second to pay attention So let's break down why exactly this is so hard from that moves list. And before we go further. I want to give an idea just how hard. Because there is a fucking chasm the size of Ireland between #3 and #2. So I did an experiment. Sora level 50 (hardest difficulty) vs Sephiroth and Unknown KH (no items [except Heartless Angel Elixers], no summons, Kingdom Key only equipment) Sora level 99, Decisive Pumpkin, 3 ribbons and Grand Ribbon and 4 Full Bloom+ vs Lingering Will (max Megalixers all party memebers) (standard) Aqua level 71 (for anyone who knows how this fight works defense is irrelevant cause he OHKOs you on anything, and you have strength cap so once you hit level 64 or so level doesn't matter anymore with best Keyblade...) Royal Radience. (Standard) I beat Seph and Unknown COMBINED..... in less attempts then it took to beat Mysterious Figure with Aqua.... we'll talk Lingering soon enough, reminder, it's ranked higher.... So 3 and 4 down on max difficulty with a ton of handicaps before I could defeat #2 by attempts with maxed out everything on second easiest difficulty. To the moves. Note they all Ohko you without Second Chance so I don't feel the need to point that out. His standard 3 hit combo is fine. Just roll/slide. He has deceptively wide hit boxes on all his attacks, so get further away then it seems you might need. His much longer attack however is pure shit. Much easier to get hit by. If you get caught by one you will be hit by all, each hit has a chance for stun proc (which should be obvious is absoltely instant death in this fight), and to cap it off his clones LOVE spamming this attack, nothing like a ton of clones all hitting you in Chain combo at the same time with every hit being able to stun you. It's even better against a wall because sometimes them hitting you into the wall will proc your once more ability meaning that the next combo, (which you can't escape from by the way, you are still Chain locked) will just kill you. Loving this so far. He loves to do this while clones are invisible and he spams MegaFlare... good luck. Dash attack. I never noticed he transformed it into a spear here... I guess that just says how hard this fucking fight is... X Wave: Thank GOD for this attack!!!! This thing was among Vanitas Lingering Spirit and Young Xehanorts worst attacks... Here I think anyone will agree is probably the best thing you can see. When you beat him it's probably because he used this attack a lot. He will jump back and fire at you a rapidly fast tracking X attack, if you are close to him (and you should be) do not dodge it.... THUNDER SURGE HIM!!!!! In order to win you have to eventually kill him. This is your chance to do actual damage. The I frames in Thunder Surge will protect you, and you can go right though this attack and hit him. He is also programmed to do single attacks up to 3 times in a row if the attack fails. Pray to god he teleports away and does it again, then again. This is how you beat this guy. This attack right here. Sphere orbs... technically if you somehow only get hit by one (no chance) this isn't a one Hit KO, and will only do a percentage of your attack, if that somehow happens do not heal, wait till he hits you again to take you to 1 HP then heal. This can be chained to multiple attacks and is so much harder to dodge then you'd think. A lot of times I would actually just heal for the Leaf Bracer invincibility to try to not get pulverized by this, cause so many times I died when I thought I should have still been in combo state according to the game. Sonic attack. Heal in the air if you can. Best advice I can give here. Also, try to go to other side of field with air dashes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 12:57:20 AM #303:	Whirlwind: FUCK THIS MOVE!!!!! Ok, let me give you the rules for this attack..... #1: There are no restrictions. #2: Fuck you, die! That's it. If he wants to end a combo with it, he can. If he wants to do it multiple times in a row he can. If he wants to do it mutiple times in a row despite the fact you got hit by it already... he can. If his clones want to use it, they can, if he wants to use it while invisible, sure, why not, full health for him? Sounds like a good time. During his Desperation attack from hell....? Why the fuck not? Breaking previous rules like using it after 2 X misses when it should be a third X, or hitting you after an X actually HIT you...? I like the way you think. Leaf bracer to dodge it, hits once cute ends. Dodge roll or slide to dodge it, hits the second your I frames go away..... Fuck... so what's it do. Well, it takes you to one hp like every other move of course. It also disables all 8 of your abilities, and breaks the fourth wall by having their name plates spread throughout the level.... And you have to pick them up individually to be able to use them again... great. That sucks. Anything else? Oh, THEY BOUNCE!!!!!!???? Yup, when they are taken from you they bounce 3 or 4 times before they rest. There is nothing better than having cure fall on you but it doesn't count cause it's still in bounce state.... and then immediately dying. Raging Storm: you can dodge it, but for the first part of the battle I'd actually recommend surging him. Yeah you'll immediately be hit, but this attack goes on forever and they all count as one so once you get hit by it you can just heal at the end and be fine. Honestly being it's this fight this thing is pretty nice to you. Second half he'll go invisible and use clones and other combos with it.... that fucking sucks.... but the first half ain't so bad. Summon clones: THUNDER SURGE IMMEDIATELY!!!!! If you do this right you will instantly kill off every clone at once and make your life a thousand times easier. If you fail, dodge and pray. Once they go invisible that seems a thousand times harder (and it is) but first half just surge them all away. Doom: Welcome to hell. He hits you with his whip, it will bring you to 1 HP and bring up a counter (AN INCREDIBLY FAST COUNTER) the first time you are hit it starts at 5, the second time 4, the third time 3 and you are probably dead unless you are like god, the fourth time definitely dead, and I assume at 1 even a TAS couldn't survive. Once he hits you with it, tap X faster than you've ever tapped X. If you break out thank your lucky stars, heal, and pray he doesn't do it again. If he decides to spam this attack you pretty much can't win. Like the Whirlwind if you dodge roll it, the moment your I frame expires you get hit by it. Collision Magner: Thank Christ this attack got nerfed.... (YES, THIS FIGHT AT ONE TIME WAS ACTUALLY HARDER AND HAD TO BE NERFED!!!!!!! Let that sink in....) The current iteration doesn't hurt you on on the innital hit, and you can escape it by air dodging the second it hits you. If you don't air dodge out in time however you will see why this was at one time, the worst attack maybe in Boss history in anygame. It's instant, he will draw you in, while in the air, hit you to take you to one hp, which flings you to the ground, but it bounces you.... IT FUCKING BOUNCES YOU!!!!!! Anyone who knows Second Chance mechanics can tell you why that is bad. The bounce counts as a jump, which means you aren't protected anymore. Meaning he can (and will) kill you instantly in the air. There is literally nothing you can do to avoid this. He can miss (he doesn't, like, ever, but he can) and you can survive that way. But that's the only way. Renewal barrier: If he feels you are doing too much damage he'll just barrier and heal from it.... fuck off! Time reversal: or this way to heal. Reset time and damage then attack before you react. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847557] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Whirlwind: FUCK THIS MOVE!!!!! Ok, let me give you the rules for this attack..... #1: There are no restrictions. #2: Fuck you, die! That's it. If he wants to end a combo with it, he can. If he wants to do it multiple times in a row he can. If he wants to do it mutiple times in a row despite the fact you got hit by it already... he can. If his clones want to use it, they can, if he wants to use it while invisible, sure, why not, full health for him? Sounds like a good time. During his Desperation attack from hell....? Why the fuck not? Breaking previous rules like using it after 2 X misses when it should be a third X, or hitting you after an X actually HIT you...? I like the way you think. Leaf bracer to dodge it, hits once cute ends. Dodge roll or slide to dodge it, hits the second your I frames go away..... Fuck... so what's it do. Well, it takes you to one hp like every other move of course. It also disables all 8 of your abilities, and breaks the fourth wall by having their name plates spread throughout the level.... And you have to pick them up individually to be able to use them again... great. That sucks. Anything else? Oh, THEY BOUNCE!!!!!!???? Yup, when they are taken from you they bounce 3 or 4 times before they rest. There is nothing better than having cure fall on you but it doesn't count cause it's still in bounce state.... and then immediately dying. Raging Storm: you can dodge it, but for the first part of the battle I'd actually recommend surging him. Yeah you'll immediately be hit, but this attack goes on forever and they all count as one so once you get hit by it you can just heal at the end and be fine. Honestly being it's this fight this thing is pretty nice to you. Second half he'll go invisible and use clones and other combos with it.... that fucking sucks.... but the first half ain't so bad. Summon clones: THUNDER SURGE IMMEDIATELY!!!!! If you do this right you will instantly kill off every clone at once and make your life a thousand times easier. If you fail, dodge and pray. Once they go invisible that seems a thousand times harder (and it is) but first half just surge them all away. Doom: Welcome to hell. He hits you with his whip, it will bring you to 1 HP and bring up a counter (AN INCREDIBLY FAST COUNTER) the first time you are hit it starts at 5, the second time 4, the third time 3 and you are probably dead unless you are like god, the fourth time definitely dead, and I assume at 1 even a TAS couldn't survive. Once he hits you with it, tap X faster than you've ever tapped X. If you break out thank your lucky stars, heal, and pray he doesn't do it again. If he decides to spam this attack you pretty much can't win. Like the Whirlwind if you dodge roll it, the moment your I frame expires you get hit by it. Collision Magner: Thank Christ this attack got nerfed.... (YES, THIS FIGHT AT ONE TIME WAS ACTUALLY HARDER AND HAD TO BE NERFED!!!!!!! Let that sink in....) The current iteration doesn't hurt you on on the innital hit, and you can escape it by air dodging the second it hits you. If you don't air dodge out in time however you will see why this was at one time, the worst attack maybe in Boss history in anygame. It's instant, he will draw you in, while in the air, hit you to take you to one hp, which flings you to the ground, but it bounces you.... IT FUCKING BOUNCES YOU!!!!!! Anyone who knows Second Chance mechanics can tell you why that is bad. The bounce counts as a jump, which means you aren't protected anymore. Meaning he can (and will) kill you instantly in the air. There is literally nothing you can do to avoid this. He can miss (he doesn't, like, ever, but he can) and you can survive that way. But that's the only way. Renewal barrier: If he feels you are doing too much damage he'll just barrier and heal from it.... fuck off! Time reversal: or this way to heal. Reset time and damage then attack before you react.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 12:58:08 AM #304:	And then these 3 which he only does during the second half (usually, I think he will use Vanish early if you shot lock or something) oh, and he spams them.... once you get him down to two and a half bars (which is rare) the true 7th circle of hell begins. He will instantly: Vanish: dude goes invisible and can't be locked on anymore, have fun.... At which time he will start his Desperation move, which is really a Desperation combo. And the two worst parts are certainly... MegaFlare and Meteor: The flames of hell are hot.... these two attack over and over and over again, both with their huge AoE size are absoltely terrifying. Just dodge and pray. Reminder while he is spamming these (literally blast after blast after blast) he'll be invisible and cloned. And they'll be attacking you with every other attack from hell he has. (Hence why I called it a Desperation Combo, he just does like 200 attacks everywhere on the field) Once he is visible and locked on again, hurt this fucker. He can go invisible and start the Meteor Megaflare spam again at anytime. I've seen it as little as 10 seconds and as much as rest of the fight not doing it again. That's the dream. Realistically in order to beat him you'll have to survive 2 or 3 of them. This entire fight all you should be using is curaga and Thunder surge. 3-5 Thunder/Fire Surge, and 3-5 curagas. (Contrary to what LITERALLY everyone believes, in this game cure, cura, and curaga have the exact same cool down, so might as well heal to full incase you do just get hit with one beam. Surge anytime he is open, but always always be wary of whirlwind and doom, and don't be afraid to surge for i frames even not as offense, you have to survive this fight to have any chance to win obviously. You have to beat this guy 3 time to Platinum. And to bring up the elephant in the room yes it is much much harder with Terra, who is slower, and his Slide roll doesn't have i frames the entire time like Like Ventus nor does it have 0 cool down like Aqua.... So yeah, obviously surviving the Megaflare and Meteor Spam is just pure luck as Terra, since you don't have the i frames. I recommend beating it with Aqua or Ventus first, then as soon as you finally win go to the other of those 2, then once you win that second one, put the rest of your life on hold And just keep going over and over with Terra. Call into work, give up sex, don't eat except maybe a quick sandwich, (because 3-4 minute breaks when frustrated are invaluable.) bring water with you, etc. Beating it with Terra should almost certainly be the Platinum. Congrats. You beat the cheapest worst designed piece of shit Boss ever made. One other thing, he's so hard for another reason because the field is so small, like the 4th smallest in the series, maybe 3rd. And he is the most agressive fight in the series. There is a Super Boss whose entire AI is to kill you and stop you from escaping. This guy is more aggressive than that..... GOD FUCK THIS FIGHT!!!! <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847589] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>And then these 3 which he only does during the second half (usually, I think he will use Vanish early if you shot lock or something) oh, and he spams them.... once you get him down to two and a half bars (which is rare) the true 7th circle of hell begins. He will instantly: Vanish: dude goes invisible and can't be locked on anymore, have fun.... At which time he will start his Desperation move, which is really a Desperation combo. And the two worst parts are certainly... MegaFlare and Meteor: The flames of hell are hot.... these two attack over and over and over again, both with their huge AoE size are absoltely terrifying. Just dodge and pray. Reminder while he is spamming these (literally blast after blast after blast) he'll be invisible and cloned. And they'll be attacking you with every other attack from hell he has. (Hence why I called it a Desperation Combo, he just does like 200 attacks everywhere on the field) Once he is visible and locked on again, hurt this fucker. He can go invisible and start the Meteor Megaflare spam again at anytime. I've seen it as little as 10 seconds and as much as rest of the fight not doing it again. That's the dream. Realistically in order to beat him you'll have to survive 2 or 3 of them. This entire fight all you should be using is curaga and Thunder surge. 3-5 Thunder/Fire Surge, and 3-5 curagas. (Contrary to what LITERALLY everyone believes, in this game cure, cura, and curaga have the exact same cool down, so might as well heal to full incase you do just get hit with one beam. Surge anytime he is open, but always always be wary of whirlwind and doom, and don't be afraid to surge for i frames even not as offense, you have to survive this fight to have any chance to win obviously. You have to beat this guy 3 time to Platinum. And to bring up the elephant in the room yes it is much much harder with Terra, who is slower, and his Slide roll doesn't have i frames the entire time like Like Ventus nor does it have 0 cool down like Aqua.... So yeah, obviously surviving the Megaflare and Meteor Spam is just pure luck as Terra, since you don't have the i frames. I recommend beating it with Aqua or Ventus first, then as soon as you finally win go to the other of those 2, then once you win that second one, put the rest of your life on hold And just keep going over and over with Terra. Call into work, give up sex, don't eat except maybe a quick sandwich, (because 3-4 minute breaks when frustrated are invaluable.) bring water with you, etc. Beating it with Terra should almost certainly be the Platinum. Congrats. You beat the cheapest worst designed piece of shit Boss ever made. One other thing, he's so hard for another reason because the field is so small, like the 4th smallest in the series, maybe 3rd. And he is the most agressive fight in the series. There is a Super Boss whose entire AI is to kill you and stop you from escaping. This guy is more aggressive than that..... GOD FUCK THIS FIGHT!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 12:58:57 AM #305:	#1 Terra's Lingering Will (Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, Terra's Emotions and Final Will using his armor as a conduit to fight) Hardest: Donald and Goofy Fight Armor fight Keyblade weilder fight Keyblade Graveyard Fight Disney Castle Fight Fight with Sora involved Team fight Fight with any form of Terra involved Console original game fight KH II fight Fight overall in the series... "Aqua...Ven... A Keyblade? Who are you? I know you. We've met before, way back when. No, that wasn't you. You're not the one I chose... Where is he? Xe...ha...nort... Is that you? Xeha...nort... Xehanort!!!" And then he kills you.... I would assume this is the one every one waited for since the beginning. Can't blame you. This fight is Legendary. Rage Awakened is also Legendary. I may have spoken about it earlier for Terra's Master Xehanort fight, but if not, I will now. You're gonna die ALOT during this fight, the song will make you hate life significantly less than you probably would have. And the reasons you'll hate life are such. Lingering Will's attacks. He can do every attack except his Desperation attack at any time. The only exception is the very first move I've NEVER seen Heart Key... but he can use it instantly after if he wants so who cares... Curse attack: You can no longer use attacks. Well, this seems fun. (It's not). He will leap at you and hit the ground with a huge radius attack (even dodging out you will usually not escape). You have to do an amount of damage to LW (that doesn't count for his overall bar, so this attack also helps him on defense cause none of your attacks hurt him currently) to get your ability to attack back. So Magic him. Or block back his Ultima Cannon. It really sucks. But at least it's not.... Curse magic: The exact same attack and way to end (only obviously you have to physically attack or bounce back UC at him to do that damage bar) only somehow 1,000% worse. This attack is absoltely a potential death sentance. Your only way to heal at this time is to either have Donald or Goofy use items or have Donald heal you, or transform wasting Drive gauge... but you'll still have to hurt him either way to get your items and magic back. Much hate for this one. Can't even begin to name how many times after I somehow survived his Desperation attack he would hit me with this ending any shot I had as I ran around with my head cut off and then he killed me. Ultima Cannon: Oh god awesome. Ok. It's probably the strongest attack in the series (level 99 perfect ability load out and equipment and still takes me to 1 HP) as only one hit takes you to 1HP no matter what, and his other attacks all like combo one hit you or such. That all sounds bad. But it's actually awesome. If you can get real close to him when he uses this, you can reflect it back to him with guard, and it will hit him, make him explode, stun him and this is your chance to put 2 combos on him. Absoltely your best opportunity for damage. If you aren't close you can dodge roll directly into it and it will do no damage to you cause of I frames. You want him to spam this attack in phase one. His other attacks are so much worse. Keyblade Glider: He turns his Keyblade into a glider and will try to ram you with it, you can dodge, but I would reccomend guarding instead. The timing will take you a minute to get, especially on his hesitation, but you'll die plenty of times so have plenty of chance to get this down. He can go between 3 and 7 times, and he can do multiple chains in row on it too. If you get hit by one you'll probably be hit by all. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847631] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>#1 Terra's Lingering Will (Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, Terra's Emotions and Final Will using his armor as a conduit to fight) Hardest: Donald and Goofy Fight Armor fight Keyblade weilder fight Keyblade Graveyard Fight Disney Castle Fight Fight with Sora involved Team fight Fight with any form of Terra involved Console original game fight KH II fight Fight overall in the series... "Aqua...Ven... A Keyblade? Who are you? I know you. We've met before, way back when. No, that wasn't you. You're not the one I chose... Where is he? Xe...ha...nort... Is that you? Xeha...nort... Xehanort!!!" And then he kills you.... I would assume this is the one every one waited for since the beginning. Can't blame you. This fight is Legendary. Rage Awakened is also Legendary. I may have spoken about it earlier for Terra's Master Xehanort fight, but if not, I will now. You're gonna die ALOT during this fight, the song will make you hate life significantly less than you probably would have. And the reasons you'll hate life are such. Lingering Will's attacks. He can do every attack except his Desperation attack at any time. The only exception is the very first move I've NEVER seen Heart Key... but he can use it instantly after if he wants so who cares... Curse attack: You can no longer use attacks. Well, this seems fun. (It's not). He will leap at you and hit the ground with a huge radius attack (even dodging out you will usually not escape). You have to do an amount of damage to LW (that doesn't count for his overall bar, so this attack also helps him on defense cause none of your attacks hurt him currently) to get your ability to attack back. So Magic him. Or block back his Ultima Cannon. It really sucks. But at least it's not.... Curse magic: The exact same attack and way to end (only obviously you have to physically attack or bounce back UC at him to do that damage bar) only somehow 1,000% worse. This attack is absoltely a potential death sentance. Your only way to heal at this time is to either have Donald or Goofy use items or have Donald heal you, or transform wasting Drive gauge... but you'll still have to hurt him either way to get your items and magic back. Much hate for this one. Can't even begin to name how many times after I somehow survived his Desperation attack he would hit me with this ending any shot I had as I ran around with my head cut off and then he killed me. Ultima Cannon: Oh god awesome. Ok. It's probably the strongest attack in the series (level 99 perfect ability load out and equipment and still takes me to 1 HP) as only one hit takes you to 1HP no matter what, and his other attacks all like combo one hit you or such. That all sounds bad. But it's actually awesome. If you can get real close to him when he uses this, you can reflect it back to him with guard, and it will hit him, make him explode, stun him and this is your chance to put 2 combos on him. Absoltely your best opportunity for damage. If you aren't close you can dodge roll directly into it and it will do no damage to you cause of I frames. You want him to spam this attack in phase one. His other attacks are so much worse. Keyblade Glider: He turns his Keyblade into a glider and will try to ram you with it, you can dodge, but I would reccomend guarding instead. The timing will take you a minute to get, especially on his hesitation, but you'll die plenty of times so have plenty of chance to get this down. He can go between 3 and 7 times, and he can do multiple chains in row on it too. If you get hit by one you'll probably be hit by all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 12:59:54 AM #306:	Punch combo: If you can dodge them all (or block) you can do some real damage to him immediately afterward. If you get hit with the final hit it flings you far away and you lose your ability to hurt him. Sky Dash: Like his Keyblade Glider except he just rapidly dashes to attack you. Same rules, can do a bunch in a row and chain the combos together. Can block or dodge, this one is easier to dodge, but once again, if you get hit you're probbaly taking the rest. Heart Lock curse: fuck off.... His Keyblade turns into a bow, and he shoots you. It can instant kill, but most of the time it will paralyze you, and you have to one last time play a stupid command menu mini game, this perhaps the worst of all. Your health drains, you can't move, he attacks you, a break free command that constantly rapidly moves, and 2 options that do absurd damage to you. This this is deadly accurate, lasts a while, and worst of all hits you the micro second your i frames end in the roll if that is what you went for. Sentry. Lingering will unleash 3 tracking sentry lasers that follow you everywhere and hurt like hell, he can do this at anytime, but he will ALWAYS start phase 3 by doing this, and then immediately going to his Desperation attack. Keyblade Whip: His Keyblade becomes a whip. This attack is death. It has a vacuum function to pull you in if you are close to him, he can do it at anytime, and worse yet from Phase two on he can do this at the end of any combo. The worst of all though is this is almost always his revenge move if you hit his Revenge value. It will wreck you when he does. Except for the curses this is BY FAR his worst attack. I have nightmares about this whip. Desperation Move: The Sky will change, and he will unleash the most ridiculous devastating move in Kingdom Hearts history. It probably only last 25 to 35 seconds or so, it feels like it lasts 3 hours. There are humans who can block and dodge every blow on this and I can't figure out how. I dodge the first have just gliding in a circle, but then the second part he closes too fast (he may teleport, I can't tell) and he just damages and kills instead. It feels like he does 100 Keyblade moves during this thing. I would highly highly recommend killing him if you somehow survive this before he can do it again, this thing really was designed by a psycho. And that's it. You damage him the normal way, although his defense is crazy at the start, the more combos you stack directly on him the more percentage damage you'll do. (Really cool mechanic actually). The arena is huge (it's the Badlands at Keyblade Graveyard, same place you fight Vanitas Lingering Spirit) and he can get to you instantly but you can sometimes put enough space momentarily plan what to do. He is very aggressive, but not near as aggressive as MF is. His attacks hurt but not every single move will take you to 1HP, his kills come from chaining damage and disabling you. I don't really have that much against this fight. Yes losing pisses me off, but it's not like every single death is just bad game design like MF is. Optional Boss or not, this is one of the hardest bosses ever in gaming. But he's at least kinda fair. Congrats Terra's Lingering Will. You earned it. Conversely.... One comet to bounce him in the air, and then jump and Fenrir Negative combo him just never letting him hit a wall so that he can't escape and beat him without him having a chance to do anything. I won't judge you if you do that to get the Platinum. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847666] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Punch combo: If you can dodge them all (or block) you can do some real damage to him immediately afterward. If you get hit with the final hit it flings you far away and you lose your ability to hurt him. Sky Dash: Like his Keyblade Glider except he just rapidly dashes to attack you. Same rules, can do a bunch in a row and chain the combos together. Can block or dodge, this one is easier to dodge, but once again, if you get hit you're probbaly taking the rest. Heart Lock curse: fuck off.... His Keyblade turns into a bow, and he shoots you. It can instant kill, but most of the time it will paralyze you, and you have to one last time play a stupid command menu mini game, this perhaps the worst of all. Your health drains, you can't move, he attacks you, a break free command that constantly rapidly moves, and 2 options that do absurd damage to you. This this is deadly accurate, lasts a while, and worst of all hits you the micro second your i frames end in the roll if that is what you went for. Sentry. Lingering will unleash 3 tracking sentry lasers that follow you everywhere and hurt like hell, he can do this at anytime, but he will ALWAYS start phase 3 by doing this, and then immediately going to his Desperation attack. Keyblade Whip: His Keyblade becomes a whip. This attack is death. It has a vacuum function to pull you in if you are close to him, he can do it at anytime, and worse yet from Phase two on he can do this at the end of any combo. The worst of all though is this is almost always his revenge move if you hit his Revenge value. It will wreck you when he does. Except for the curses this is BY FAR his worst attack. I have nightmares about this whip. Desperation Move: The Sky will change, and he will unleash the most ridiculous devastating move in Kingdom Hearts history. It probably only last 25 to 35 seconds or so, it feels like it lasts 3 hours. There are humans who can block and dodge every blow on this and I can't figure out how. I dodge the first have just gliding in a circle, but then the second part he closes too fast (he may teleport, I can't tell) and he just damages and kills instead. It feels like he does 100 Keyblade moves during this thing. I would highly highly recommend killing him if you somehow survive this before he can do it again, this thing really was designed by a psycho. And that's it. You damage him the normal way, although his defense is crazy at the start, the more combos you stack directly on him the more percentage damage you'll do. (Really cool mechanic actually). The arena is huge (it's the Badlands at Keyblade Graveyard, same place you fight Vanitas Lingering Spirit) and he can get to you instantly but you can sometimes put enough space momentarily plan what to do. He is very aggressive, but not near as aggressive as MF is. His attacks hurt but not every single move will take you to 1HP, his kills come from chaining damage and disabling you. I don't really have that much against this fight. Yes losing pisses me off, but it's not like every single death is just bad game design like MF is. Optional Boss or not, this is one of the hardest bosses ever in gaming. But he's at least kinda fair. Congrats Terra's Lingering Will. You earned it. Conversely.... One comet to bounce him in the air, and then jump and Fenrir Negative combo him just never letting him hit a wall so that he can't escape and beat him without him having a chance to do anything. I won't judge you if you do that to get the Platinum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 1:01:19 AM #307:	#0: Mysterious Figure (English BBS PSP vanilla version) But this guy is harder. Again, I can't emphasize enough how cheap Collsion magnet was before nerf. It was seriously a 0 start up no tell virtually impossible to dodge one hit KO.... And it was even worse because both it and the X Wave have him go airborne. So that means you have to dodge away when he takes to the air in case it's collision magnet, and if it's not then surge from not as good of an angle and do less damage because the way the surges works is your body damages the enemy but so does the thunder and fire around you, so if you are on him less time it will do far less damage... this fight on PSP was so impossibly hard I can't even describe it.... definitley the hardest boss ever I fought. howver..... #-1 Do it with Terra..... <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847723] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>#0: Mysterious Figure (English BBS PSP vanilla version) But this guy is harder. Again, I can't emphasize enough how cheap Collsion magnet was before nerf. It was seriously a 0 start up no tell virtually impossible to dodge one hit KO.... And it was even worse because both it and the X Wave have him go airborne. So that means you have to dodge away when he takes to the air in case it's collision magnet, and if it's not then surge from not as good of an angle and do less damage because the way the surges works is your body damages the enemy but so does the thunder and fire around you, so if you are on him less time it will do far less damage... this fight on PSP was so impossibly hard I can't even describe it.... definitley the hardest boss ever I fought. howver..... #-1 Do it with Terra.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 1:06:36 AM #308:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_WxJsjMCM The video to beat him is 24 minutes long. That should give an idea of just how insane this fight is.... <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890847967] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_WxJsjMCM The video to beat him is 24 minutes long. That should give an idea of just how insane this fight is....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WiggumFan267 11/22/17 2:41:15 AM #309:	i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg --- ~Wigs~ Dp Guru Wins over Me: 1, Fantasy Baseball Wins over Dp: 3 2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS <cite>WiggumFan267 posted [p:890850939] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolar 11/22/17 7:58:33 AM #310:	I love the Lingering Will fight. Really well designed and fun, even though it's so hard. I certainly died many times during the fight, but there's a real feeling of working things out every time you lose. I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for. Incidentally, it's true that you can glide in a straight line through the first two steps of his desperation move and then block the third, but Reflect will do the trick just fine also and is a very useful crutch while you work out the timing. Big difference from Mysterious Figure, which I never beat on PSP. I'm playing through BBSFM on PS4 and I'm sure I'll beat him eventually on that system, but he definitely got the better of me initially. And I really don't see how you can ever learn his moves. They just really don't have weaknesses or gaps. It's always going to come down to Thunder Surge abuse, and that's definitely not good design. --- Just killing time until the world ends. <cite>Sceptilesolar posted [p:890857784] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>I love the Lingering Will fight. Really well designed and fun, even though it's so hard. I certainly died many times during the fight, but there's a real feeling of working things out every time you lose. I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for. Incidentally, it's true that you can glide in a straight line through the first two steps of his desperation move and then block the third, but Reflect will do the trick just fine also and is a very useful crutch while you work out the timing. Big difference from Mysterious Figure, which I never beat on PSP. I'm playing through BBSFM on PS4 and I'm sure I'll beat him eventually on that system, but he definitely got the better of me initially. And I really don't see how you can ever learn his moves. They just really don't have weaknesses or gaps. It's always going to come down to Thunder Surge abuse, and that's definitely not good design.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 9:41:08 AM #311:	Sceptilesolar posted... I love the Lingering Will fight. Really well designed and fun, even though it's so hard. I certainly died many times during the fight, but there's a real feeling of working things out every time you lose. I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for. Incidentally, it's true that you can glide in a straight line through the first two steps of his desperation move and then block the third, but Reflect will do the trick just fine also and is a very useful crutch while you work out the timing. Big difference from Mysterious Figure, which I never beat on PSP. I'm playing through BBSFM on PS4 and I'm sure I'll beat him eventually on that system, but he definitely got the better of me initially. And I really don't see how you can ever learn his moves. They just really don't have weaknesses or gaps. It's always going to come down to Thunder Surge abuse, and that's definitely not good design. You don't learn his moves as much as get an innate subconscious understanding of his patterns when you see certain attacks linked together and knowing what moves he'll do for phase 1. I can usually tell about 50 seconds into a fight if he's gonna spam Doom, or Whirlwind, or mainly do Etherial Blade attacks. But I don't know how, you just know after you've done it enough. But I couldn't write out what the makes are too know. It's really weird. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890860911] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sceptilesolar posted...</cite> <quote>I love the Lingering Will fight. Really well designed and fun, even though it's so hard. I certainly died many times during the fight, but there's a real feeling of working things out every time you lose. I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for. Incidentally, it's true that you can glide in a straight line through the first two steps of his desperation move and then block the third, but Reflect will do the trick just fine also and is a very useful crutch while you work out the timing. Big difference from Mysterious Figure, which I never beat on PSP. I'm playing through BBSFM on PS4 and I'm sure I'll beat him eventually on that system, but he definitely got the better of me initially. And I really don't see how you can ever learn his moves. They just really don't have weaknesses or gaps. It's always going to come down to Thunder Surge abuse, and that's definitely not good design.</quote> You don't learn his moves as much as get an innate subconscious understanding of his patterns when you see certain attacks linked together and knowing what moves he'll do for phase 1. I can usually tell about 50 seconds into a fight if he's gonna spam Doom, or Whirlwind, or mainly do Etherial Blade attacks. But I don't know how, you just know after you've done it enough. But I couldn't write out what the makes are too know. It's really weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BK_Sheikah00 11/22/17 10:19:05 AM #312:	AquaArcane posted... https://youtu.be/T4TEk8zW50M?t=962 I was wrong it's more like 5 bars in 2 seconds lol Watch this video again at 32:50 for LW destruction. That's mastery of KH2 mechanics. --- Singing my song for my dream http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png <cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted [p:890862332] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>AquaArcane posted...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/T4TEk8zW50M?t=962 I was wrong it's more like 5 bars in 2 seconds lol</quote> Watch this video again at 32:50 for LW destruction. That's mastery of KH2 mechanics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AquaArcane 11/22/17 11:44:31 AM #313:	Yeah I love those dudes, they have quite a few KH speedruns. Both on that channel and another I found called RPG Limit Break. Those are the only two charity speedrun channels I've found, if there are others I'd like to find them. --- I can't afford to care <cite>AquaArcane posted [p:890866540] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I love those dudes, they have quite a few KH speedruns. Both on that channel and another I found called RPG Limit Break. Those are the only two charity speedrun channels I've found, if there are others I'd like to find them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 12:05:35 PM #314:	WiggumFan267 posted... i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg Thanks for linking this man. Seriously. All the videos of are either gods beating the hell out of him, or new people to the game and or battle he never had a prayer. Or things telling you how to beat him. To see something like this, a seasoned good player that ends up winning, but seeing the struggle, getting hit by attacks, scrambling, having to dodge at one health while cursed... that's awesome and gives people a much better idea of this fight than probably everything else. When you have everything memorized and know what to do, it's just not easy to do it, that's when it's great to watch. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890867550] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>WiggumFan267 posted...</cite> <quote>i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg</quote> Thanks for linking this man. Seriously. All the videos of are either gods beating the hell out of him, or new people to the game and or battle he never had a prayer. Or things telling you how to beat him. To see something like this, a seasoned good player that ends up winning, but seeing the struggle, getting hit by attacks, scrambling, having to dodge at one health while cursed... that's awesome and gives people a much better idea of this fight than probably everything else. When you have everything memorized and know what to do, it's just not easy to do it, that's when it's great to watch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/22/17 4:17:05 PM #315:	Bumpa <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890881791] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Bumpa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/23/17 11:36:43 AM #316:	Bump <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890925013] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sk8r_ryan 11/23/17 1:43:11 PM #317:	why are you bumping a topic that's over --- 'I will now punch my professor in the face because whatever punishment I will receive will not surpass the happiness I get when team salty mid loses' -Crows <cite>sk8r_ryan posted [p:890930713] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>why are you bumping a topic that's over</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/23/17 2:09:04 PM #318:	sk8r_ryan posted... why are you bumping a topic that's over Either I want everyone who's posted in here to make final replies or I'm bumping this till 500 with how much work I put in.... lol <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890931978] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>sk8r_ryan posted...</cite> <quote>why are you bumping a topic that's over</quote> Either I want everyone who's posted in here to make final replies or I'm bumping this till 500 with how much work I put in.... lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WiggumFan267 11/23/17 9:08:02 PM #319:	Sceptilesolar posted... I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for Like 90% of my deaths were getting caught in the whip because you dont have time to heal yourself in it. You need to circle recover and then heal and it just can't happen that way for me. Donald or Goofy can save you but if they didn't, whip was instadeath for me. SSJBGenkiDama posted... WiggumFan267 posted... i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg Thanks for linking this man. Seriously. All the videos of are either gods beating the hell out of him, or new people to the game and or battle he never had a prayer. Or things telling you how to beat him. To see something like this, a seasoned good player that ends up winning, but seeing the struggle, getting hit by attacks, scrambling, having to dodge at one health while cursed... that's awesome and gives people a much better idea of this fight than probably everything else. When you have everything memorized and know what to do, it's just not easy to do it, that's when it's great to watch. yeah it was a pretty gritty run, and I made a lot of mistakes throughout I didn't make on other runs... had an awful time dealing with the lasers/glider combo. Stuff like, right after his first desperation move and he goes back to regular attacks- he used the bow/arrow on me and I was able to avoid it but when I hit him I didn't land first so my combo sucked, else I would've killed him then. I was just lucky he didn't curse me during the desperation portion of that fight because that was the main killer for me once I got to that point. Feel like when you get hit by Attack or Magic curse and he goes desperation you're basically fucked. --- ~Wigs~ Dp Guru Wins over Me: 1, Fantasy Baseball Wins over Dp: 3 2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS <cite>WiggumFan267 posted [p:890952470] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sceptilesolar posted...</cite> <quote> I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for</quote> Like 90% of my deaths were getting caught in the whip because you dont have time to heal yourself in it. You need to circle recover and then heal and it just can't happen that way for me. Donald or Goofy can save you but if they didn't, whip was instadeath for me. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WiggumFan267 posted...</cite> <quote>i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg</quote> Thanks for linking this man. Seriously. All the videos of are either gods beating the hell out of him, or new people to the game and or battle he never had a prayer. Or things telling you how to beat him. To see something like this, a seasoned good player that ends up winning, but seeing the struggle, getting hit by attacks, scrambling, having to dodge at one health while cursed... that's awesome and gives people a much better idea of this fight than probably everything else. When you have everything memorized and know what to do, it's just not easy to do it, that's when it's great to watch.</quote> yeah it was a pretty gritty run, and I made a lot of mistakes throughout I didn't make on other runs... had an awful time dealing with the lasers/glider combo. Stuff like, right after his first desperation move and he goes back to regular attacks- he used the bow/arrow on me and I was able to avoid it but when I hit him I didn't land first so my combo sucked, else I would've killed him then. I was just lucky he didn't curse me during the desperation portion of that fight because that was the main killer for me once I got to that point. Feel like when you get hit by Attack or Magic curse and he goes desperation you're basically fucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/23/17 9:29:07 PM #320:	WiggumFan267 posted... Sceptilesolar posted... I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for Like 90% of my deaths were getting caught in the whip because you dont have time to heal yourself in it. You need to circle recover and then heal and it just can't happen that way for me. Donald or Goofy can save you but if they didn't, whip was instadeath for me. SSJBGenkiDama posted... WiggumFan267 posted... i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg Thanks for linking this man. Seriously. All the videos of are either gods beating the hell out of him, or new people to the game and or battle he never had a prayer. Or things telling you how to beat him. To see something like this, a seasoned good player that ends up winning, but seeing the struggle, getting hit by attacks, scrambling, having to dodge at one health while cursed... that's awesome and gives people a much better idea of this fight than probably everything else. When you have everything memorized and know what to do, it's just not easy to do it, that's when it's great to watch. yeah it was a pretty gritty run, and I made a lot of mistakes throughout I didn't make on other runs... had an awful time dealing with the lasers/glider combo. Stuff like, right after his first desperation move and he goes back to regular attacks- he used the bow/arrow on me and I was able to avoid it but when I hit him I didn't land first so my combo sucked, else I would've killed him then. I was just lucky he didn't curse me during the desperation portion of that fight because that was the main killer for me once I got to that point. Feel like when you get hit by Attack or Magic curse and he goes desperation you're basically fucked. Agree completely. Most of my deaths were all Curse or Heartlock. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890953397] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>WiggumFan267 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sceptilesolar posted...</cite> <quote> I did get constantly battered by the whip, but eh, that's what Curaga is for</quote> Like 90% of my deaths were getting caught in the whip because you dont have time to heal yourself in it. You need to circle recover and then heal and it just can't happen that way for me. Donald or Goofy can save you but if they didn't, whip was instadeath for me. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WiggumFan267 posted...</cite> <quote>i literally just beat this guy (on critical) the other day to get the plat. So cheap. Between anytime he does the whip unexpectedly, and when he combines attacks together, like the lasers with anything, or the curses with the desperation move. I made much use of that video but I really just fell apart anytime he had the lasers/glider together. Also I think the I-Frames after his desperation are really insanely tight. To require a video like that though, this fight is really poorly designed. You'd really have no way of knowing when to expect the whip, and it is NEVER clear from the game itself when it is ok to hit him, because I swear he finishes some moves and he stays invulnerable. Here's my final winning attempt. Took me probably at least 50 tries. Excuse the pausing at the beginning, think it gets going around 1:45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY_UalRbBg</quote> Thanks for linking this man. Seriously. All the videos of are either gods beating the hell out of him, or new people to the game and or battle he never had a prayer. Or things telling you how to beat him. To see something like this, a seasoned good player that ends up winning, but seeing the struggle, getting hit by attacks, scrambling, having to dodge at one health while cursed... that's awesome and gives people a much better idea of this fight than probably everything else. When you have everything memorized and know what to do, it's just not easy to do it, that's when it's great to watch.</quote> yeah it was a pretty gritty run, and I made a lot of mistakes throughout I didn't make on other runs... had an awful time dealing with the lasers/glider combo. Stuff like, right after his first desperation move and he goes back to regular attacks- he used the bow/arrow on me and I was able to avoid it but when I hit him I didn't land first so my combo sucked, else I would've killed him then. I was just lucky he didn't curse me during the desperation portion of that fight because that was the main killer for me once I got to that point. Feel like when you get hit by Attack or Magic curse and he goes desperation you're basically fucked.</quote> Agree completely. Most of my deaths were all Curse or Heartlock.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackDra90n 11/24/17 9:12:40 AM #321:	Mysterious Figure is so ass. Having to beat him with all three characters for the platinum was pretty tough. Although I think it was hardest the first time. Once you get the feel for the timings it becomes a bit more manageable, but still feels really cheap. --- http://psnprofiles.com/Drayxs <cite>BlackDra90n posted [p:890973547] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Mysterious Figure is so ass. Having to beat him with all three characters for the platinum was pretty tough. Although I think it was hardest the first time. Once you get the feel for the timings it becomes a bit more manageable, but still feels really cheap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/24/17 9:14:18 AM #322:	BlackDra90n posted... Mysterious Figure is so ass. Having to beat him with all three characters for the platinum was pretty tough. Although I think it was hardest the first time. Once you get the feel for the timings it becomes a bit more manageable, but still feels really cheap. Having to beat him with Terra was such hell <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890973599] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackDra90n posted...</cite> <quote>Mysterious Figure is so ass. Having to beat him with all three characters for the platinum was pretty tough. Although I think it was hardest the first time. Once you get the feel for the timings it becomes a bit more manageable, but still feels really cheap.</quote> Having to beat him with Terra was such hell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackDra90n 11/24/17 9:16:59 AM #323:	Terra was the last character I did it with and I think it may have only taken me like two hours as compared to how many I did for the other two cause I was still learning the fight. --- http://psnprofiles.com/Drayxs <cite>BlackDra90n posted [p:890973682] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Terra was the last character I did it with and I think it may have only taken me like two hours as compared to how many I did for the other two cause I was still learning the fight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/24/17 9:17:47 AM #324:	BlackDra90n posted... Terra was the last character I did it with and I think it may have only taken me like two hours as compared to how many I did for the other two cause I was still learning the fight. 3 days straight doing nothing else. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:890973712] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackDra90n posted...</cite> <quote>Terra was the last character I did it with and I think it may have only taken me like two hours as compared to how many I did for the other two cause I was still learning the fight.</quote> 3 days straight doing nothing else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/25/17 12:49:17 PM #325:	Bump <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:891032044] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi1 11/25/17 1:58:15 PM #326:	Twas a good list! And it was fun keeping up. I look forward to the next. --- NNID, PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 DD:DA Pawn: Xekoben the support mage <cite>Waluigi1 posted [p:891035067] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Twas a good list! And it was fun keeping up. I look forward to the next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/25/17 1:59:28 PM #327:	Waluigi1 posted... Twas a good list! And it was fun keeping up. I look forward to the next. THank you. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:891035129] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi1 posted...</cite> <quote>Twas a good list! And it was fun keeping up. I look forward to the next.</quote> THank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBGenkiDama 11/26/17 1:13:36 PM #328:	Will do a list today to check for people who posted who haven't commented yet. Once clear I'll copy and paste this topic into documents and say goodbye. <cite>SSJBGenkiDama posted [p:891085929] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Will do a list today to check for people who posted who haven't commented yet. Once clear I'll copy and paste this topic into documents and say goodbye.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 11/26/17 2:51:06 PM #329:	Damn right LW is at the top. Great (and hard) fight. Cept when he decides to do Key Car multiple times in a row --- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:891091245] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Damn right LW is at the top. Great (and hard) fight. Cept when he decides to do Key Car multiple times in a row</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/27/17 6:57:50 PM #330:	Pirateking2000 posted... Damn right LW is at the top. Great (and hard) fight. Cept when he decides to do Key Car multiple times in a row The worst. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891164780] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirateking2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Damn right LW is at the top. Great (and hard) fight. Cept when he decides to do Key Car multiple times in a row</quote> The worst.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BK_Sheikah00 11/27/17 11:23:04 PM #331:	If you never want to deal with Luxord's card games ever again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xCUPN89ns --- Singing my song for my dream http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png <cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted [p:891180145] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>If you never want to deal with Luxord's card games ever again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xCUPN89ns</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/27/17 11:27:34 PM #332:	BK_Sheikah00 posted... If you never want to deal with Luxord's card games ever again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xCUPN89ns So reflect anytime he tries to start the game? <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891180409] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted...</cite> <quote>If you never want to deal with Luxord's card games ever again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xCUPN89ns</quote> So reflect anytime he tries to start the game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/29/17 1:59:06 AM #333:	Buump --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891251254] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Buump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/30/17 6:28:26 PM #334:	Making the list --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891355730] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Making the list</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dantezoid 12/01/17 12:39:37 PM #335:	Yeah I need to get around to fighting LW, but uh, I don't exactly last long anytime I try I'm pretty casual so I don't know any advanced mechanix and ability setups I can see it being super fun once I can survive an opening attack --- Boring and mundane signature informing you I'm on a Droid Now with more bold! Less italics due to bold. <cite>Dantezoid posted [p:891398088] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I need to get around to fighting LW, but uh, I don't exactly last long anytime I try I'm pretty casual so I don't know any advanced mechanix and ability setups I can see it being super fun once I can survive an opening attack</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 12/01/17 1:13:15 PM #336:	Dantezoid posted... Yeah I need to get around to fighting LW, but uh, I don't exactly last long anytime I try I'm pretty casual so I don't know any advanced mechanix and ability setups I can see it being super fun once I can survive an opening attack It is pretty fun once you can survive his opening shots. His final phase is never fun... :( --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891400051] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dantezoid posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah I need to get around to fighting LW, but uh, I don't exactly last long anytime I try I'm pretty casual so I don't know any advanced mechanix and ability setups I can see it being super fun once I can survive an opening attack</quote> It is pretty fun once you can survive his opening shots. His final phase is never fun... :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi1 12/02/17 2:56:14 PM #337:	I'm surprised this topic is still alive. --- NNID, PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 DD:DA Pawn: Xekoben the support mage <cite>Waluigi1 posted [p:891461106] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised this topic is still alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 12/02/17 2:57:40 PM #338:	Waluigi1 posted... I'm surprised this topic is still alive. Haven't had a chance to copy and paste everything to notes yet. Won't let it purge till I do. --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891461193] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised this topic is still alive.</quote> Haven't had a chance to copy and paste everything to notes yet. Won't let it purge till I do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 12/03/17 11:28:55 PM #339:	BUMP --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891546967] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>BUMP</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 12/04/17 8:32:09 PM #340:	Mwc is sad --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891599324] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Mwc is sad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 12/05/17 10:11:32 PM #341:	Bump --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891667878] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 12/07/17 12:31:26 PM #342:	Peace frog Wicklebee Raka Putra Pjbasis Lich Sandro Red rocket pub Asagi Asawa Betrayed Tangey Ringworm Lopen The list of everyone who hasn't spoke yet since I finished. Will keep said list till full or 500. Can't believe wicklebee hadn't been back. Lol --- FFDragon posted: mwc was right all along <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:891757556] in MWC ranks ... [t:75853813]...</cite> <quote>Peace frog Wicklebee Raka Putra Pjbasis Lich Sandro Red rocket pub Asagi Asawa Betrayed Tangey Ringworm Lopen The list of everyone who hasn't spoke yet since I finished. Will keep said list till full or 500. Can't believe wicklebee hadn't been back. Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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