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jborgan
09/28/17 10:46:34 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/09/28/louisiana-high-school-will-kick-students-off-team-if-they-dont-stand-for-national-anthem/

A high school in northwest Louisiana will punish students with suspensions or removal from sports teams if they demonstrate during the national anthem.

Principal Waylon Bates of Parkway High School in Bossier Parish called such demonstrations a "disruption" in a letter wrote Thursday to students and parents.

"Parkway High School requires student athletes to stand in a respectful manner throughout the National Anthem during any sporting event in which their team is participating," he wrote. "Failure to comply will result in a loss of playing time and/or participation as directed by the head coach and principal. Continued failure to comply will result in removal from the team."

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Skye Reynolds
09/28/17 10:46:49 PM
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Good.
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Manocheese
09/28/17 10:47:12 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Good.

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Butterfiles
09/28/17 10:47:45 PM
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lmao it's like a fucking cult
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TheJBD
09/28/17 10:47:47 PM
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They should all kneel in solidarity. Take that, coach.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/28/17 10:48:15 PM
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This hardly seems legal, scotus already ruled on making students recite the pledge, this seems to be along the same lines.
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dave_is_slick
09/28/17 10:48:39 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Good.

Fuck the both of you.
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Capn Circus
09/28/17 10:49:07 PM
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Good. The same liberals who say "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence" should be behind this.
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Schwarber
09/28/17 10:49:25 PM
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Medussa
09/28/17 10:49:57 PM
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HS me probably wouldn't have protested until they made that decree. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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dave_is_slick
09/28/17 10:50:06 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Good. The same liberals who say "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence" should be behind this.

No they shouldn't
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sondast
09/28/17 10:53:03 PM
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"Hey North Korea, how dare you force people to praise the country! Hey you football players, you better stand for the national anthem or else!"
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/28/17 10:57:17 PM
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Medussa posted...
HS me probably wouldn't have protested until they made that decree. I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Pretty much. I consider myself a patriot and generally wouldn't protest the anthem/flag/whathave over issues not intrinsically related to the country, bad cops are bad cops, they're a problem America faces but they don't make America the problem. But I have a bit of a contrarian streak and these threats would only make me feel vindicated in protest, protesting would be doing a greater service to the country than "showing respect" like a trained monkey.
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TheOnionKnight
09/28/17 10:57:23 PM
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If this is a private school, it's a shit move but that's what you get.

If this is a public school, oh boy. A government limb forcing students to kowtow to the government or risk suspension. The people demanding obedience "or else" are doing immeasurably more damage to the flag's legacy than the protestors.
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Capn Circus
09/28/17 10:58:10 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Good. The same liberals who say "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence" should be behind this.

No they shouldn't


Why not? I've been hearing on CE for years that it's "OK" people lost their jobs/whatever because of something they said. It's the employers' descretion, they say. The cartoon meme of "you have the right to free speech we're just showing you the door" regularly gets posted here.

But I guess that only gets applies to conservative viewpoints. Someone getting booted off a team or fired for having another viewpoint must be a mortal sin, right?
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snakes_righteye
09/28/17 10:58:19 PM
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Keep fighting each other over Russian propaganda. You are doing exactly what the masters want you to do.
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/28/17 10:59:01 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Good.

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DarthAragorn
09/28/17 11:00:53 PM
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It's also a football team, they don't have to play football, does that not change anything?
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Gheb
09/28/17 11:00:54 PM
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This is a public high school. This has the potential to blow up in their faces.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/28/17 11:01:03 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
I'm too fucking dumb to see the difference between govt. and private.

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Raikuro
09/28/17 11:03:41 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Why not? I've been hearing on CE for years that it's "OK" people lost their jobs/whatever because of something they said. It's the employers' descretion, they say. The cartoon meme of "you have the right to free speech we're just showing you the door" regularly gets posted here.

But I guess that only gets applies to conservative viewpoints. Someone getting booted off a team or fired for having another viewpoint must be a mortal sin, right?

I've only seen it applied to racists and Nazi symbols, things both sides claim to be against. Are conservatives taking ownership of those views now?
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Gheb
09/28/17 11:04:35 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
It's also a football team, they don't have to play football, does that not change anything?

A public school cannot force students to participate in the national anthem or pledge of allegiance. High school football is a function of the school.
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legendary_zell
09/28/17 11:06:32 PM
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Blatantly illegal, and even the football screen of "all the players who kneel are suddenly not good" won't be able to save him after he announced his blatantly unconstitutional intent.

This is a government employee squashing the free speech rights of a student, not a private individual choosing not to associate with another private individual.
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legendary_zell
09/28/17 11:09:25 PM
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If you defend this, I BETTER not see you talking about defending what the flag stands for, history, law and order, free speech etc. Defending this proves you don't care about any of those values and proves you are what you project liberals to be: a vindictive person who wants to see those with opinions you don't like punished.Even when they are peacefully expressed, and even including children.
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Capn Circus
09/28/17 11:09:26 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Capn Circus posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Good. The same liberals who say "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence" should be behind this.

No they shouldn't


Why not? I've been hearing on CE for years that it's "OK" people lost their jobs/whatever because of something they said. It's the employers' descretion, they say. The cartoon meme of "you have the right to free speech we're just showing you the door" regularly gets posted here.

But I guess that only gets applies to conservative viewpoints. Someone getting booted off a team or fired for having another viewpoint must be a mortal sin, right?

It's a public school


So is Berkeley and other universities funded by government (tax payer) dollars. They're under attack themselves for free speech violations. Many leftists don't care too much about conservative speakers' rights, access, and safety on those campuses. Many even show up to riot and silence them, after all.

Maybe this school will go into litigation as well and we'll have to see what the outcome is. But it silencing freedom of speech and expression shouldn't be some new concept to many leftists.

We'll have to see what happens. But the left shouldn't be in outrage mode over this, as it falls in line with many of their silencing values.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/28/17 11:13:07 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
We'll have to see what happens. But the left shouldn't be in outrage mode over this, as it falls in line with many of their silencing values.


Earlier . . .

Capn Circus posted...
Good.


So are you an authoritarian liberal now in favor of censorship?
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dave_is_slick
09/28/17 11:14:47 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
But the left shouldn't be in outrage mode over this, as it falls in line with many of their silencing values.

How fucking stupid are you? Scale of one to ten.
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0AbsoluteZero0
09/28/17 11:16:04 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm too fucking dumb to see the difference between govt. and private.

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Questionmarktarius
09/28/17 11:16:48 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
It's a public school

Then... it can't.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/28/17 11:17:06 PM
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. . . and he was never heard from again . . .
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Mark_DeRosa
09/28/17 11:17:20 PM
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Good
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3khc
09/28/17 11:17:46 PM
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TheJBD posted...
They should all kneel in solidarity. Take that, coach.

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Solid Snake07
09/28/17 11:17:51 PM
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TheJBD posted...
They should all kneel in solidarity. Take that, coach.


This, for the sake of their own freedom of expression if nothing else
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legendary_zell
09/28/17 11:18:12 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Capn Circus posted...
We'll have to see what happens. But the left shouldn't be in outrage mode over this, as it falls in line with many of their silencing values.


Earlier . . .

Capn Circus posted...
Good.


So are you an authoritarian liberal now in favor of censorship?


He's just an all around....not good person. Every post on every issue makes it more clear, it's not just race. It's embarrassing.
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0AbsoluteZero0
09/28/17 11:20:21 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Capn Circus posted...
We'll have to see what happens. But the left shouldn't be in outrage mode over this, as it falls in line with many of their silencing values.


Earlier . . .

Capn Circus posted...
Good.


So are you an authoritarian liberal now in favor of censorship?


He's just an all around....not good person. Every post on every issue makes it more clear, it's not just race. It's embarrassing.

This. For his own sake I hope Capn is just having fun trolling, cause if not... well, he's a hateful, pathetic little man.
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the_cajun88
09/28/17 11:21:06 PM
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KyoryuCyan
09/28/17 11:22:16 PM
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People losing thier job because they're traitors?! Fair, next.
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scorpion41
09/28/17 11:22:21 PM
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Good. Most kids will only protest because they saw it on TV or adults told them to do it. What does a 14-17 year old know about oppression from the state? They're coddled until they leave school with free education and free food. None of my kids I teach and coach can tell me why professsional athletes are protesting...all I get is "something about black people."
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
09/28/17 11:23:16 PM
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When did kneeling become a symbol of disrespect? Certain religious faiths use genuflection as a sign of deference and respect. I'll bet the clown school administrator who made this decree got down on one knee when he asked his wife to marry him.

Such a damn shame that most folks are missing the whole point of #TakeAKnee.
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snakes_righteye
09/28/17 11:23:38 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Good. Most kids will only protest because they saw it on TV or adults told them to do it. What does a 14-17 year old know about oppression from the state? They're coddled until they leave school with free education and free food. None of my kids I teach and coach can tell me why professsional athletes are protesting...all I get is "something about black people."


Tell them Russian propaganda makes it's impossible to see why anyone is doing anything and if we don't unite, we have already lost.
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Freddie_Mercury
09/28/17 11:24:23 PM
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land of the "free" and the home of the whopper
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/28/17 11:24:50 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
What does a 14-17 year old know about oppression from the state?


You're asking this in a topic about the state, oppressing 14-17 year olds . . .

And they're not protesting their own oppression . . .

and they're in school . . . learning about about oppression and civics.
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Solid Snake07
09/28/17 11:24:57 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Good. Most kids will only protest because they saw it on TV or adults told them to do it. What does a 14-17 year old know about oppression from the state? They're coddled until they leave school with free education and free food. None of my kids I teach and coach can tell me why professsional athletes are protesting...all I get is "something about black people."


Ignorance doesn't mean you aren't entitled to voice your opinion, even if it is misguided
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Naysaspace
09/28/17 11:25:39 PM
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what about slavic style squat?
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creativerealms
09/28/17 11:25:48 PM
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Then the whole team should kneel.
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yusiko
09/28/17 11:28:44 PM
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KyoryuCyan posted...
People losing thier job because they're traitors?! Fair, next.


this is a topic about trump supporters being fired?
i thought this was about football
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thronedfire2
09/28/17 11:28:56 PM
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gonna laugh if the whole team kneels
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closetkpopfan
09/28/17 11:30:07 PM
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You know someone is going to kneel now for sure. Hell there are probably parents telling their kids to kneel cause they can smell a lawsuit if they actually enforce their threats.
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