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Paper_Okami
09/27/17 8:18:33 PM
#51:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Mal_Fet still waiting on your thoughts.


Anyone notice that Mal pops up into every topic on this subject but has avoided this one like the plauge?

You guys need a hobby

Anyway, if Democrats want to run with the most unpopular political stunt ever so much that they will dredge up any military vet they can find to take their side, great. I guess we'll get 4 more years of Trump then.

You're placing a shitload of importance on public perception when not even a week ago you felt it was of the utmost importance to defend the free speech of neo-nazis. Why do you feel as if the free speech of nazis is your rightful corner and not these NFL players?


Because he's a..
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hockeybub89
09/27/17 8:21:22 PM
#52:


Mal_Fet posted...
the most unpopular political stunt ever

Citation needed
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Zeeak4444
09/27/17 8:25:38 PM
#53:


Tropicalwood posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Mal_Fet still waiting on your thoughts.


Anyone notice that Mal pops up into every topic on this subject but has avoided this one like the plauge?

You guys need a hobby

Anyway, if Democrats want to run with the most unpopular political stunt ever so much that they will dredge up any military vet they can find to take their side, great. I guess we'll get 4 more years of Trump then.

You're placing a shitload of importance on public perception when not even a week ago you felt it was of the utmost importance to defend the free speech of neo-nazis. Why do you feel as if the free speech of nazis is your rightful corner and not these NFL players?

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I wonder who could be behind this post.


No idea but I'll post it if that's better for you.
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A_Good_Boy
09/27/17 8:27:07 PM
#54:


Tropicalwood posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Mal_Fet still waiting on your thoughts.


Anyone notice that Mal pops up into every topic on this subject but has avoided this one like the plauge?

You guys need a hobby

Anyway, if Democrats want to run with the most unpopular political stunt ever so much that they will dredge up any military vet they can find to take their side, great. I guess we'll get 4 more years of Trump then.

You're placing a shitload of importance on public perception when not even a week ago you felt it was of the utmost importance to defend the free speech of neo-nazis. Why do you feel as if the free speech of nazis is your rightful corner and not these NFL players?

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I wonder who could be behind this post.

A dude with accounts older than yours.
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littlebro07
09/27/17 8:34:12 PM
#55:


I live in a military town.

Most of the people who are against kneeling for the flag and say it disrespects the military are people who have never even served. Most of the military people are in complete support of it.

Also...

ZMythos posted...
"I served in the military during the vietnam war, and my foot hurt, too, but I served anyway"

FUCKING ROASTED


This, holy fucking shit
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BootyGif
09/27/17 8:41:30 PM
#56:


littlebro07 posted...
Most of the people who are against kneeling for the flag and say it disrespects the military are people who have never even served. Most of the military people are in complete support of it.

this so hard. I have a friend who served and he could give two shits about someone kneeling for the flag or the anthem.

he said "I didnt serve for a song or a piece of fabric".
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TheRealDill2000
09/27/17 8:49:42 PM
#57:


I can't believe the guy from the video is supportive of this protest and even had the guts to compare it to the civil rights movement. Trump has the right idea about this movement. It should be handled differently. BLM does a much better job with protesting and manages to get more support from the people. The NFL should emulate that group.
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Mal_Fet
09/27/17 9:21:21 PM
#58:


A_Good_Boy posted...
You're placing a shitload of importance on public perception when not even a week ago you felt it was of the utmost importance to defend the free speech of neo-nazis. Why do you feel as if the free speech of nazis is your rightful corner and not these NFL players?

Woooow

I said that assault isn't acceptable just because someone offended you, not that you shouldn't be allowed to trash talk them. Or did I suggest somewhere it was ok to assault football players for kneeling?

Criticizing people's speech does not infringe on their free speech. How is this such a hard concept for you to grasp?
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JerickoX
09/27/17 9:33:45 PM
#60:


Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Mal_Fet still waiting on your thoughts.


Anyone notice that Mal pops up into every topic on this subject but has avoided this one like the plauge?

You guys need a hobby

Anyway, if Democrats want to run with the most unpopular political stunt ever so much that they will dredge up any military vet they can find to take their side, great. I guess we'll get 4 more years of Trump then.


Yep, and rightfully so. Trump is the best president since Reagan! He's, the chief, and gives sobs who disrespect my country a "one-two" punch of RESPECT.

These football players are disgusting.
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hockeybub89
09/27/17 9:40:26 PM
#61:


hockeybub89 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
the most unpopular political stunt ever

Citation needed

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Kineth
09/27/17 9:41:05 PM
#62:


His name is Dale Hansen.
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A_Good_Boy
09/27/17 10:02:37 PM
#63:


Mal_Fet posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
You're placing a shitload of importance on public perception when not even a week ago you felt it was of the utmost importance to defend the free speech of neo-nazis. Why do you feel as if the free speech of nazis is your rightful corner and not these NFL players?

Woooow

I said that assault isn't acceptable just because someone offended you, not that you shouldn't be allowed to trash talk them. Or did I suggest somewhere it was ok to assault football players for kneeling?

Criticizing people's speech does not infringe on their free speech. How is this such a hard concept for you to grasp?

And then you go ahead and support free speech for the sake of supporting free speech when it's a neo-nazi speaking but when these dudes kneel during the anthem all you have to offer is criticism. Why is one expression of free speech worthy of criticism and why is another worthy of defense?
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asdf8562
09/27/17 10:11:51 PM
#64:


JerickoX posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Mal_Fet still waiting on your thoughts.


Anyone notice that Mal pops up into every topic on this subject but has avoided this one like the plauge?

You guys need a hobby

Anyway, if Democrats want to run with the most unpopular political stunt ever so much that they will dredge up any military vet they can find to take their side, great. I guess we'll get 4 more years of Trump then.


Yep, and rightfully so. Trump is the best president since Reagan! He's, the chief, and gives sobs who disrespect my country a "one-two" punch of RESPECT.

These football players are disgusting.

Nothing disgusting about it. Soldiers didnt fight and die for a flag. They fought for freedom. Freedom do disagree with the President, freedom to voice their opinions regardless if you like it, freedom to protest.
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Mal_Fet
09/27/17 11:57:01 PM
#65:


A_Good_Boy posted...
And then you go ahead and support free speech for the sake of supporting free speech when it's a neo-nazi speaking but when these dudes kneel during the anthem all you have to offer is criticism. Why is one expression of free speech worthy of criticism and why is another worthy of defense?

I also support the player's right to protest. Show me where i said I didn't.
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fan357
09/28/17 12:12:14 AM
#66:


Damn that was good.
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iPhone_7
09/28/17 12:36:09 AM
#67:


How dare you people criticize Trump for not serving. He would have served were it not for his crippling foot pain.

You think he's enjoyed the countless times he's played golf and tennis? No! Every time he plays he's reminded of the crippling foot pain. He's sacrificed a lot for this country.
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Herugrim
09/28/17 12:57:32 AM
#68:


I don't support Trump, but this guy was just vomiting rhetoric.

First of all protesting the nation anthem isn't protesting the current administration, it's protesting the country itself. It's the kind of thing people do when they want to get rid of democracy in favor of socialism, or capitalism in favor of communism. Trump and his administration didn't write "The Star Spangled Banner" nor did they appoint it the national anthem in the 30s. It has nothing to do with police brutality or racism.

Secondly this white privilege nonsense is total bull shit. I'm white. Nobody's ever given me a god damn thing. I make $1236 a month and my cost of living (before groceries) is $1263 a month, and welfare told me I make too much money for any kind of support. I know what it's like to go weeks on end without electricity because my parents couldn't afford to pay the bill. I know what it's like to only have something to eat because it was donated by the church. I'm paying $500 a month for a fifteen year old Mercury Sable that leaks power steering fluid (costs $1200 to fix) and living off ramen and coffee. White Privilege is a myth.

And finally, this is a business. Players have the right to protest, even as they are making millions of dollars to play a game that they could not do in a lot of other countries. Owners also have the right to release a player if they feel they have displayed unsportsmanlike conduct. I personally don't have to support any player that I don't agree with. As such I don't have to support a player who chooses to protest the capitalistic democracy I choose to live in. I like being able to have private property, the option to start my own business, and all things considered I'd rather deal with Democracy at it's works than the dictatorships that rise from Socialism and Communism.
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dave_is_slick
09/28/17 1:05:32 AM
#69:


Herugrim posted...
First of all protesting the nation anthem isn't protesting the current administration, it's protesting the country itself. It's the kind of thing people do when they want to get rid of democracy in favor of socialism, or capitalism in favor of communism.

Are you fucking serious right now? Do you actually believe this bullshit?
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TomNook20
09/28/17 1:11:43 AM
#70:


I think complaining about taking a knee is the height of idiocy, but that monologue was just regurgitated leftist talking points. Everyone gets dumber every time someone on TV talks about someone being A RACIST or about someone disrespecting THE TROOPS! If you can't make a point without straw manning or name calling, you don't have a point.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/28/17 1:15:09 AM
#71:


CommonStar posted...
It's great but also the NFL is a joke. They only unified because Trump told them what to do and he told people to boycott them. It's all about the money and the power.

Kaepernick protested because of police brutality and the systemic injustices of the government. Only a few handfuls kneeled with him 14 months ago.

Shannon Sharpe said it best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2iIOefeM9Q

Both speeches were great tbh.
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Tropicalwood
09/28/17 4:29:44 AM
#72:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Mal_Fet still waiting on your thoughts.


Anyone notice that Mal pops up into every topic on this subject but has avoided this one like the plauge?

You guys need a hobby

Anyway, if Democrats want to run with the most unpopular political stunt ever so much that they will dredge up any military vet they can find to take their side, great. I guess we'll get 4 more years of Trump then.

You're placing a shitload of importance on public perception when not even a week ago you felt it was of the utmost importance to defend the free speech of neo-nazis. Why do you feel as if the free speech of nazis is your rightful corner and not these NFL players?

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I wonder who could be behind this post.

A dude with accounts older than yours.

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NibeIungsnarf
09/28/17 4:51:16 AM
#73:


Herugrim posted...
First of all protesting the nation anthem isn't protesting the current administration, it's protesting the country itself. It's the kind of thing people do when they want to get rid of democracy in favor of socialism, or capitalism in favor of communism.

I don't understand why some people feel the need to post their liquid diarrhea to gameFAQs like this.
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stoltenberg11
09/28/17 5:38:28 AM
#74:


Herugrim posted...
First of all protesting the nation anthem isn't protesting the current administration, it's protesting the country itself. It's the kind of thing people do when they want to get rid of democracy in favor of socialism, or capitalism in favor of communism.

This is some woke high school young republicans club talk right here
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Ving_Rhames
09/28/17 5:56:51 AM
#75:


Herugrim posted...
White Privilege is a myth.


ever been followed around in a mini mart for seemingly no reason?
ever been pulled over for (obviously) no reason and then given a BS reason as to why you were pulled over? ever been stopped by police as you walk down the street because you "fit the description"? ever almost get put in cuffs without actual explanation because you pointed out that the description isn't even vaguely similar to you? Bet not.
ever tried to get a place in a nice area and been told that the place you were looking at has already been sold off (even though you know its clearly not)?

Maybe I'll mention something more relatable to you

ever been called a racial slur everytime you talk in an online game with voice chat?
ever been able to go through a youtube video with a minority in it without seeing something racist about them?

It's not about being gifted shit. I bet you're the sort that'd rather call it Minority Disadvantage lmao.
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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:11:45 PM
#76:


Mal_Fet posted...
@A_Good_Boy posted...
And then you go ahead and support free speech for the sake of supporting free speech when it's a neo-nazi speaking but when these dudes kneel during the anthem all you have to offer is criticism. Why is one expression of free speech worthy of criticism and why is another worthy of defense?

I also support the player's right to protest. Show me where i said I didn't.

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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:13:09 PM
#77:


Ving_Rhames posted...
ever been followed around in a mini mart for seemingly no reason?
ever been pulled over for (obviously) no reason and then given a BS reason as to why you were pulled over? ever been stopped by police as you walk down the street because you "fit the description"? ever almost get put in cuffs without actual explanation because you pointed out that the description isn't even vaguely similar to you? Bet not.

None of that happens to most people regardless of their skin color.

Because the best way to not have an altercation with the police is to not commit crimes.
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hockeybub89
09/28/17 12:13:44 PM
#78:


hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
the most unpopular political stunt ever

Citation needed

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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:14:49 PM
#79:


Mal_Fet posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ever been followed around in a mini mart for seemingly no reason?
ever been pulled over for (obviously) no reason and then given a BS reason as to why you were pulled over? ever been stopped by police as you walk down the street because you "fit the description"? ever almost get put in cuffs without actual explanation because you pointed out that the description isn't even vaguely similar to you? Bet not.

None of that happens to most people regardless of their skin color.

Because the best way to not have an altercation with the police is to not commit crimes.


What crime did Eric garner, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile commit?
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hockeybub89
09/28/17 12:16:07 PM
#80:


Paper_Okami posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ever been followed around in a mini mart for seemingly no reason?
ever been pulled over for (obviously) no reason and then given a BS reason as to why you were pulled over? ever been stopped by police as you walk down the street because you "fit the description"? ever almost get put in cuffs without actual explanation because you pointed out that the description isn't even vaguely similar to you? Bet not.

None of that happens to most people regardless of their skin color.

Because the best way to not have an altercation with the police is to not commit crimes.


What crime did Eric garner, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile commit?

Or John Crawford
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Balrog0
09/28/17 12:16:44 PM
#81:


Herugrim posted...
Secondly this white privilege nonsense is total bull shit. I'm white. Nobody's ever given me a god damn thing. I make $1236 a month and my cost of living (before groceries) is $1263 a month, and welfare told me I make too much money for any kind of support. I know what it's like to go weeks on end without electricity because my parents couldn't afford to pay the bill. I know what it's like to only have something to eat because it was donated by the church. I'm paying $500 a month for a fifteen year old Mercury Sable that leaks power steering fluid (costs $1200 to fix) and living off ramen and coffee. White Privilege is a myth.


those things suck, but don't disprove the existence of white privilege
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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:17:28 PM
#82:


hockeybub89 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ever been followed around in a mini mart for seemingly no reason?
ever been pulled over for (obviously) no reason and then given a BS reason as to why you were pulled over? ever been stopped by police as you walk down the street because you "fit the description"? ever almost get put in cuffs without actual explanation because you pointed out that the description isn't even vaguely similar to you? Bet not.

None of that happens to most people regardless of their skin color.

Because the best way to not have an altercation with the police is to not commit crimes.


What crime did Eric garner, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile commit?

Or John Crawford


And that pregnant woman in Seattle.
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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:20:46 PM
#83:


Paper_Okami posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ever been followed around in a mini mart for seemingly no reason?
ever been pulled over for (obviously) no reason and then given a BS reason as to why you were pulled over? ever been stopped by police as you walk down the street because you "fit the description"? ever almost get put in cuffs without actual explanation because you pointed out that the description isn't even vaguely similar to you? Bet not.

None of that happens to most people regardless of their skin color.

Because the best way to not have an altercation with the police is to not commit crimes.


What crime did Eric garner, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile commit?

Respectively,

Selling untaxed cigarettes and resisting arrest,

Threatened people and a police officer with a toy gun modified to look real,

Reached for a gun after an officer told him multiple times not to.
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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:22:47 PM
#84:


hockeybub89 posted...
Or John Crawford

Was waving around a real-looking gun in a toy store and kept doing it until police arrived, and pointed it at them too
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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:26:18 PM
#85:


Mal_Fet posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ever been followed around in a mini mart for seemingly no reason?
ever been pulled over for (obviously) no reason and then given a BS reason as to why you were pulled over? ever been stopped by police as you walk down the street because you "fit the description"? ever almost get put in cuffs without actual explanation because you pointed out that the description isn't even vaguely similar to you? Bet not.

None of that happens to most people regardless of their skin color.

Because the best way to not have an altercation with the police is to not commit crimes.


What crime did Eric garner, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile commit?

Respectively,

Selling untaxed cigarettes and resisting arrest,

Threatened people and a police officer with a toy gun modified to look real,

Reached for a gun after an officer told him multiple times not to.


1. Garner was selling nothing at the time.
2. Resisting arrest doesn't carry a death sentence and he was struggling to breathe
3. The choke hold the officer used was illegal

4. The office came in and shot Tamir within 2 seconds, no warning.

5. The officer asked for Castile ID he told them his gun was there too and never reached for it
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R0ttedHorror
09/28/17 12:26:45 PM
#86:


Tag for later

Cause none of yall gave a summary of what he said
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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:26:55 PM
#87:


Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Or John Crawford

Was waving around a real-looking gun in a toy store and kept doing it until police arrived, and pointed it at them too


A gun they sell at the actual store.

Video shows them not warning him
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Twin3Turbo
09/28/17 12:28:05 PM
#88:


Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Or John Crawford

Was waving around a real-looking gun in a toy store and kept doing it until police arrived, and pointed it at them too

Wasn't he literally carrying a gun that they sell in the store he was at?
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hockeybub89
09/28/17 12:28:53 PM
#89:


Paper_Okami posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Or John Crawford

Was waving around a real-looking gun in a toy store and kept doing it until police arrived, and pointed it at them too


A gun they sell at the actual store.

A gun that he didn't aim at anyone. And he was shot immediately just like Rice
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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:31:40 PM
#90:


Paper_Okami posted...
1. Garner was selling nothing at the time.
2. Resisting arrest doesn't carry a death sentence and he was struggling to breathe
3. The choke hold the officer used was illegal

1. According to whom
2. Police aren't responsible for asthma attacks.
3. No it isn't. It was against that PD's policy, but doing it is not a crime.

4. The office came in and shot Tamir within 2 seconds, no warning.

And in that 2 seconds, Tamir reached for his gun.

5. The officer asked for Castile ID he told them his gun was there too and never reached for it

His gun was in his pocket and he was told not to reach for it, and then he did.
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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:36:14 PM
#91:


Tamir Rice:

Caller said gun was probably fake, officer who shot him was later found out to be emotionally unfit for duty.

Police waited for 4 minutes before providing him with aid.
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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:39:00 PM
#92:


Paper_Okami posted...
Caller said gun was probably fake,

If a gun looks real, you should probably assume that it's real.

Anything else would be unbelievably stupid.
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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:40:51 PM
#93:


Didn't perform correct on Garner and yes the wellbeing of criminals is the responsibility of police, no cigs we're found on him. Imagine defending the police for using a prohibited manuver.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/28/17 12:41:00 PM
#94:


Paper_Okami posted...
Tamir Rice:

Caller said gun was probably fake, officer who shot him was later found out to be emotionally unfit for duty.

Police waited for 4 minutes before providing him with aid.


they had to have a huddle first. that's normal, right?

edit: you ever see the video of the White guy experimenting with police by walking around with an AR 15?

a black guy pulled that shit too, and that scared the fuck out of me. couldn't have been Ricky! lol
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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:41:20 PM
#95:


Mal_Fet posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Caller said gun was probably fake,

If a gun looks real, you should probably assume that it's real.

Anything else would be unbelievably stupid.


Good job ignoring my other points.
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Paper_Okami
09/28/17 12:43:38 PM
#96:


Castile was shot as he was putting up his hands
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hockeybub89
09/28/17 12:45:23 PM
#97:


Let's get back to discussing how kneeling at a football game was the most unpopular political stunt ever. Oh wait, Mal never explained that.
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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:46:43 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Good job ignoring my other points.

Good job forgetting that you're supposed to be denying that these guys committed any crimes.

"The best way to avoid the police is to not commit crimes."

"Oh yeah, well what """crimes""" did these people commit?"

"*Lists their crimes*"

"Yeah well the police didn't completely follow protocol, we don't know if they were committing a crime before they resisted arrest, he only reached for the area his gun was located at while the policeman told him not to do that, blah blah blah blah..."
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/28/17 12:47:30 PM
#99:


hockeybub89 posted...
Let's get back to discussing how kneeling at a football game was the most unpopular political stunt ever. Oh wait, Mal never explained that.


but Michael Brown is easier to argue... c'mon guy... give him a break.
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Mal_Fet
09/28/17 12:47:43 PM
#100:


hockeybub89 posted...
Let's get back to discussing how kneeling at a football game was the most unpopular political stunt ever. Oh wait, Mal never explained that.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20171611/national-anthem-protests-no-1-reason-viewers-tuned-nfl-games
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