Board 8 > Spiderman 3 wasn't that bad

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CwebbMichSac4
09/26/17 9:51:56 AM
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I know a lot of people didn't like it but i thought it was much better than most of the the garbage movies that come out now and then too. I was just rewatching it
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EndOfDiscOne
09/26/17 9:56:36 AM
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I enjoyed it the one time I saw it in theaters.
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VeryInsane
09/26/17 9:57:23 AM
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It was ok, people just think of it as a letdown, which it was. Feels like they tried to pack in too many storylines but they all felt kinda hastened, cut at least one and the movie probably is better for it

Also the dancing scene
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bryans7
09/26/17 10:02:28 AM
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Venom was an abortion of a character.
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redrocket_pub
09/26/17 10:16:59 AM
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I read this as, "Superman 3 wasn't that bad" and I was like, "AWW HELL NO!"
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pjbasis
09/26/17 10:17:01 AM
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It was pretty bad. Sandman plotline was probably the most decent, and Venom or HarryGoblin should have been cut for a fourth movie.
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EndOfDiscOne
09/26/17 10:22:21 AM
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Also the dancing scene


Best part
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Mr Lasastryke
09/26/17 10:38:12 AM
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it's pretty bad but not because it has "too many villains" like people always say. it's two and a half hours long so there's plenty of time for three villains, and the dark knight rises also has three villains (four if you count catwoman) and nobody gives a shit about that. yes, one of them was barely in it, but still.

but yeah, it obviously has problems. venom sucked and wtf @ retconning sandman as uncle ben's killer.
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VeryInsane
09/26/17 10:44:57 AM
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Who is the third TDKR villain

Are you actually counting Scarecrow
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LeonhartFour
09/26/17 10:45:21 AM
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I'll never forgive Spider-Man 3 for botching Venom, but it has some semi-decent stuff in there.
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LeonhartFour
09/26/17 10:45:58 AM
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VeryInsane posted...
Who is the third TDKR villain

Are you actually counting Scarecrow


Scarecrow had about as much screentime as Venom so why not count him
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Mr Lasastryke
09/26/17 10:48:31 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Scarecrow had about as much screentime as Venom so why not count him


this.
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scarletspeed7
09/26/17 11:14:17 AM
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It didn't deserve to end the series. They had built the Lizard so well for three movies; Dylan Baker would have been perfect in the role.
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/26/17 11:19:38 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Who is the third TDKR villain

Are you actually counting Scarecrow


Scarecrow had about as much screentime as Venom so why not count him

Because the actual villain was Eddie Brock, who ended up as Venom.

In TDKR, he refers to himself as Crane. Same difference.
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swordz9
09/26/17 11:40:14 AM
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TDKR and Spider-Man 3 were messes for the most part
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Lopen
09/26/17 11:40:25 AM
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It'd be a good counter argument if TDKR wasn't also bad.
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bryans7
09/26/17 11:43:10 AM
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Lopen posted...
It'd be a good counter argument if TDKR wasn't also bad.

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scarletspeed7
09/26/17 11:45:31 AM
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Honestly, TDKR was well-written and well-made. It also has become much more timely.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/26/17 11:48:28 AM
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Lopen posted...
It'd be a good counter argument if TDKR wasn't also bad.


i thought it was ok but my point was that nobody ever says "it's bad because there's too many villains," even people who dislike it. i've never seen anyone say it, at least.
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LeonhartFour
09/26/17 11:51:41 AM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Because the actual villain was Eddie Brock


one of Spider-Man 3's biggest problems
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Lopen
09/26/17 11:51:52 AM
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Honestly though comparing Scarecrow's (Crane's) role in TDKR to Venom's (Brock's) role in Spiderman 3 is kinda silly.

Scarecrow has already been built and established in Batman Begins, and is mostly just used as a minor callback thing in TDKR. Eddie Brock doesn't actually appear before Spiderman 3. It's less which villains appear and more which new villains appear.
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VeryInsane
09/26/17 12:00:03 PM
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Scarecrow is an extremely small bit villain in TDKR where as Venom was billed as the main antagonist in Spidey 3. Not the same at all

The other key difference is at least the villains in the Nolan Trilogy are at the very least interwoven in the main plot where as Spidey 3 they all have their own separate plotline
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Punnyz
09/26/17 12:01:47 PM
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everything in Spiderman 3 had potential but was executed poorly

everything


I've only seen it once in theaters but everyone in there got on the "So bad its good" vibe, so I still enjoyed it
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digiiiiiiiii
09/26/17 12:37:20 PM
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scarletspeed7
09/26/17 12:41:46 PM
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Emo Spidey dancing > Electro Bitsy Spider
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Punnyz
09/26/17 12:45:29 PM
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Mr Lasastryke
09/26/17 12:50:47 PM
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the raindrops keep falling on my head montage scene in spider-man 2 is almost as silly as emo peter tbqh. that freeze frame at the end ugh.
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Mac Arrowny
09/26/17 1:19:42 PM
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TDKR > TDK

SM3 great movie. Excellent comedy throughout, and the final battle with Spidey and Goblin against Venom and Sandman might be my favorite superhero battle ever. Really cool choreography, since it actually has all four people doing things at the same time.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/26/17 1:23:52 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
TDKR > TDK

SM3 great movie.


these are certainly two opinions.
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Nanis23
09/26/17 1:30:51 PM
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The worst thing about Spiderman 3 is not including this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWVEQ1E1JU

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LordoftheMorons
09/26/17 1:38:24 PM
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It gets major bonus points from me for the quantum physics in Dr. Connors' class actually being correct
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ClyTheCool
09/26/17 3:21:37 PM
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It's legitimately a bad movie
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redrocket_pub
09/26/17 5:01:02 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
Lopen posted...
It'd be a good counter argument if TDKR wasn't also bad.


i thought it was ok but my point was that nobody ever says "it's bad because there's too many villains," even people who dislike it. i've never seen anyone say it, at least.


I've said before the movie would have been significantly better if Bane was working alone.
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Johnbobb
09/26/17 5:06:02 PM
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Spider-Man 3 was pretty bad

Sandman was great though. A lot of potential there if the rest hadn't been so weak
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Lightning Strikes
09/26/17 5:29:51 PM
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Dagget is a villain in TDKR. He counts more than Scarecrow.

TDKR is a great film by the way. It is fair to say that it has a lot more going on than Spiderman 3 yet pulls it off. This is because the whole film revolves around a clear central theme, whereas Spiderman 3 is just a mess of disparate elements. Like, how does Harry tie in thematically or narratively to Sandman and Venom? The whole thing is slapped together because those are the popular villains they had.
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BetrayedTangy
09/26/17 5:36:46 PM
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The really stupid parts have always made it a more fun movie in my eyes. However the plot being all over the place is the only thing that really hurts it. I think they were trying to make a sequel to the first two, a finale and it's own thing all the same time, making it a cluttered mess.
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Lopen
09/26/17 5:39:02 PM
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Really the discussion we should be having is comparing like Batman Forever or Batman and Robin to Spiderman 3, not TDKR.
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pjbasis
09/27/17 4:07:53 PM
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Yeah I didn't love Nolan 3 but it was still a hugely competent movie in comparison.
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foolm0r0n
09/27/17 4:37:40 PM
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Spiderman 3 was
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redrocket_pub
09/28/17 7:21:15 PM
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metaIslug posted...
3 spiderman movies was around the only time i was hype for superhero movies. Then i stepped away, like most people do with wrestling, but instead, in this case people are still into superhero movies to this day. it's strange man.


I mean, superhero movies have definitely improved since the Raimi trilogy. It was groundbreaking at the time, but it's been cleanly surpassed multiple times since.
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Lopen
09/28/17 7:22:00 PM
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People step away from Wrestling after it got worse.

You stepped away from superhero movies before they actually got good.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/28/17 7:52:39 PM
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wtf, superhero movies only "got good" after spider-man 3? batman begins anyone?
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foolm0r0n
09/28/17 9:48:44 PM
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People don't think of the Nolan movies as superhero movies
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Mac Arrowny
09/28/17 10:09:18 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
People don't think of the Nolan movies as superhero movies


???

I've never heard that opinion before.
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Lopen
09/28/17 10:24:20 PM
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Sorry. Actually got good regularly

I think the first two spider man movies were fairly well received too (and Batman Begins obviously) but the genre still wasn't really a respected thing yet when Spider Man 3 was out.
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Grand Kirby
09/28/17 10:39:13 PM
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It gave us this scene so of course it couldn't be all that bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAp-HFOAf6w

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SeabassDebeste
09/28/17 10:41:34 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Spiderman 3 was
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BetrayedTangy posted...
The really stupid parts have always made it a more fun movie in my eyes. However the plot being all over the place is the only thing that really hurts it. I think they were trying to make a sequel to the first two, a finale and it's own thing all the same time, making it a cluttered mess.

also this.

i think cutting either sandman or venom could have given it a ton of potential

and yeah the sandman retcon was ughhhh
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Mr Lasastryke
09/29/17 7:43:30 AM
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Lopen posted...
Sorry. Actually got good regularly

I think the first two spider man movies were fairly well received too (and Batman Begins obviously) but the genre still wasn't really a respected thing yet when Spider Man 3 was out.


that's true. i think BB, the first two x-men movies and spider-man 2 were all good movies (spider-man 1 was decent imo). maybe the original batman (i mean the burton one, obviously, not the '60s one) was good too - haven't seen that one in so long that i don't think i'm allowed to have an opinion on it. but yeah, the golden age of superhero movies started after spider-man 3, obviously.
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VeryInsane
09/29/17 9:26:49 AM
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I would actually pinpoint it at around Iron Man? When the MCU was created and we got TDK shortly after
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