Current Events > My thoughts about the "kneeling" situation the NFL is in

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First, let me say one of the great things about this country is you can speak the way you desire - having the freedom to express yourself.

Second, let's get to the main point: Football fans watch the games to get away from reality. I have enough reality in my life Mon thru Friday, and Sunday is my time to escape into a world of yards, inches, and grown men playing football. I don't want politics. Would you want your next Final Fantasy game to feature BLM? Or Colin Kaepernick? Or Neo Nazis? or real life politics? Do you turn on your video game system to experience more reality - or do you turn it on to get away from reality?

Answer that question, folks.

That's what football is to us. It's the same thing as you turning on your video games and getting away from reality so that you don't go insane.

That's what these millionaire athletes have to understand. If you wish to support or be out-spoken about the issues in this country, do it on your own time. The local radio sports programs will be more than happy to take your call - trust me. If you're telling me a Cowboys fan radio station isn't DYING to take a phone call from Ezekiel Elliott, then you're out of your mind.

You can make your stand in other ways and get people's attention in more positive ways. Sports radio is a BOOMING industry - and that's really where stuff like this should be taken. Trust me - during Wednesday and Thursdays these sports radio hosts have nothing to talk about. The game ended two days earlier, and Friday is more of a hype day for the next game. That's where you go with this shit. Maybe write a book - or start a fund-raiser and advertise it on sports radio.

That's how you get people to notice the issues. Use sports (the popularity of the game) as the spring-board, and on your own time, go on the radio.

Done. Problem solved.

Until then, stand up.
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Second, let's get to the main point: Football fans watch the games to get away from reality.

Spoken like a true white person smfh
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My thoughts: who the fuck cares? Just watch the game and stop getting buttflustered by every little fucking thing.

yeah thanks we were curious
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"Sports shouldn't be political"

but almost everything that's happening today is because a political figure was jerking himself off over his opinions on sports.
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Or, alternatively, they can express themselves how they want and you can get over it. Way easier solution.
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Doom_Art posted...

yeah thanks we were curious

I offered a solution.

What's yours?
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Also, do you not watch MNF or TNF bro?
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Anteaterking posted...

Also, do you not watch MNF or TNF bro?

Have you noticed the last two TNF games? Utter trash dude.
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poor triggered snowflake
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Caution999 posted...

Second, let's get to the main point: Football fans watch the games to get away from reality. I have enough reality in my life Mon thru Friday, and Sunday is my time to escape into a world of yards, inches, and grown men playing football. I don't want politics. Would you want your next Final Fantasy game to feature BLM? Or Colin Kaepernick? Or Neo Nazis? or real life politics? Do you turn on your video game system to experience more reality - or do you turn it on to get away from reality?

you are allowed to turn the game on after the Anthem ya know? You dont have to sit through it if it's going to trigger you so badly. Same way you probably turn the channel during commercials.
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MikeArmstrong posted...

My thoughts: who the fuck cares? Just watch the game and stop getting buttflustered by every little fucking thing.

eston posted...

Or, alternatively, they can express themselves how yhey want and you can get over it. Way easier solution.

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tl;dr version: "protest is fine just don't inconvenience me in any way!"
the same clueless mantra clung to by everyone on this board

you WILL be forced to pay attention.

you want it to happen somewhere you can ignore it because you aren't suffering and can't be bothered, which is why you're exactly the kind of person who needs to have your precious little football game disrupted

Caution999 posted...

Football fans watch the games to get away from reality.

tough shit. you don't get to avoid this reality.

Omnislasher posted...

tl;dr version: "protest is fine just don't inconvenience me in any way!"
the same clueless mantra clung to by everyone on this board

you WILL be forced to pay attention.

you want it to happen somewhere you can ignore it because you aren't suffering and can't be bothered, which is why you're exactly the kind of person who needs to have your precious little football game disrupted

Caution999 posted...

Football fans watch the games to get away from reality.

tough shit. you don't get to avoid this reality.

Then tough shit. You're not allowed to play video games for the rest of your life.
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Exactly. People overlook the fact that a uniform represents unity and teamwork. you can't have one guy wearing blue and the rest wearing white, just like you cannot have one person kneeling during the anthem.

Just as free dress doesn't fit in the workplace, you give up your right to make radical statements when you join a team. If your club tells you to follow certain ethics, then you do so.
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Caution999 posted...

Omnislasher posted...

tl;dr version: "protest is fine just don't inconvenience me in any way!"
the same clueless mantra clung to by everyone on this board

you WILL be forced to pay attention.

you want it to happen somewhere you can ignore it because you aren't suffering and can't be bothered, which is why you're exactly the kind of person who needs to have your precious little football game disrupted

Caution999 posted...

Football fans watch the games to get away from reality.

tough shit. you don't get to avoid this reality.

Then tough shit. You're not allowed to play video games for the rest of your life.

Villain posted...

poor triggered snowflake

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"I watch football to get away from black peoples' opinions!"
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No one cares what traitors think
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Caution999 posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Also, do you not watch MNF or TNF bro?

Have you noticed the last two TNF games? Utter trash dude.

You thought last Thursday's game was trash?

Also, football is entertainment, but that doesn't make it escapism.
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So kneeling during a game provides a clearer picture of the issue than going on the radio and explaining what the issue is?

What a crazy world.
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Caution999 posted...

You can make your stand in other ways and get people's attention in more positive ways. Sports radio is a BOOMING industry - and that's really where stuff like this should be taken.

Have you ever listened to sports radio when they start talking about this? They get the same response from 50% of the callers and texters: TALK SPORTS, DON'T TALK POLITICS. And when the host is African American they get peppered with racial slurs via twitter and text.

If a person uses entertainment that they didn't create to "escape from reality" and get mad when it doesn't cater to them, they can go fuck themselves. Entitled asses.
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TC really needs to check his privelage
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Caution999 posted...

So kneeling during a game provides a clearer picture of the issue than going on the radio and explaining what the issue is?

What a crazy world.

It's creating discussion without any violence.

"Why don't they peacefully protest?"

Caution999 posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Also, do you not watch MNF or TNF bro?

Have you noticed the last two TNF games? Utter trash dude.

lol the last tnf game was 41 - 39 and went down to the wire
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It's a fair compromise. You know, I know it, the American people know it.

Fair is fair.
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eston posted...

"I watch football to get away from black peoples' opinions!"

Lol nice. I think TC needs a safe space
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MikeArmstrong posted...

Caution999 posted...

So kneeling during a game provides a clearer picture of the issue than going on the radio and explaining what the issue is?

What a crazy world.

It's creating discussion without any violence.

"Why don't they peacefully protest?"

Yes, and you can peacefully protest by going on the radio and being outspoken. This is how we handle issues - we talk about them. That's the best way. You gotta TALK about the issues and get people involved. You can't just kneel and go "well i'm done. That'll change things!"
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Oh gee I wonder what a nazi defender thinks of black people protesting.
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

eston posted...

"I watch football to get away from black peoples' opinions!"

Lol nice. I think TC needs a safe space

Typical liberal.

Making it about race. White men have kneeled in support as well. Also, there are white players in the NFL.

But way to generalize the entire league as black.

Who's the racist now?
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Caution999 posted...

Yes, and you can peacefully protest by going on the radio and being outspoken.

That_Happened posted...

Have you ever listened to sports radio when they start talking about this? They get the same response from 50% of the callers and texters: TALK SPORTS, DON'T TALK POLITICS. And when the host is African American they get peppered with racial slurs via twitter and text.

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That_Happened posted...

Caution999 posted...

You can make your stand in other ways and get people's attention in more positive ways. Sports radio is a BOOMING industry - and that's really where stuff like this should be taken.

Have you ever listened to sports radio when they start talking about this? They get the same response from 50% of the callers and texters: TALK SPORTS, DON'T TALK POLITICS. And when the host is African American they get peppered with racial slurs via twitter and text.

If a person uses entertainment that they didn't create to "escape from reality" and get mad when it doesn't cater to them, they can go fuck themselves. Entitled asses.

basically.

when you strip down all of the excuses and fuckery, and leave the truth naked... that's the truth that stands out.

these people know this and they're faced with the same rebuttals every day so they already know better. it's cognitive dissonance, and I choose to no longer be polite in the face of deliberate ignorance.
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If the people don't want to hear it on sports radio, they can change the channel.

NEXT.
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Ok, so you don't use video games as an escape from your reality?

Bunch of liars.
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I mean, I get what you're saying about the whole "they can call in and talk about it Monday thru Saturday" or whatever, except that the anthem isn't part of the game
like, most people watching at home use that time the same as they do during commercials -- it's time to refill snacks, grab some beer, go to the bathroom, etc.

not to mention that when players do tweet about issues they get told to stop by "fans" so it's not like this compromise you want will really help things, a ton of sports radio and programming get complaints when it's not 100% about sports

and really the purpose of kneeling is to bring attention to their issues and reach a wider market. a lot of people watch games that don't listen to the radio or watch ESPN
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Caution999 posted...

Ok, so you don't use video games as an escape from your reality?

Bunch of liars.

No, I play video games because they're fun. I don't need to escape from real life.

Caution999 posted...

If the people don't want to hear it on sports radio, they can change the channel.

Or they can just not tune in for the national anthem. Or watch the game on mute so they don't have to hear the commentary. Or watch the Red Zone channel where it flips back and forth between games so all you're getting is game footage.

If 1 minute of a dude kneeling fucks up your viewing experience, you can go to hell.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

At this point, Trump stupidly drew another line. In making that dumbass tweet, he turned this into "Stand if you're with me, kneel if you're against me", so the players are merely obliging. I guarantee you, that if he'd kept his fat mouth shut, you'd have a lot less happening.

Are you implying that the president is divisive?
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Bull shit dude.

World of Warcraft was the most successful MMORPG and people got addicted because it was an alternate reality they preferred to their own.
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Lmao caution projecting again

Caution999 posted...

Bull shit dude.

World of Warcraft was the most successful MMORPG and people got addicted because it was an alternate reality they preferred to their own.

Maybe dorks and losers who have a shit life need to escape to a world where someone actually respects them, but for the rest of us games are just a fun way to spend time and challenge ourselves.
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Here's my thoughts: The owners of the teams ultimately decide if they want their players to stand or whatever. And that decision comes from how much money they're making. If people get offended and stop purchasing merchandise and tickets, then they'll probably come down on the players. But if not, they won't care. Keeping this in the news is ultimately good for the NFL, because they're a business and it's free advertising. As long as people and advertisers aren't distancing themselves in droves, then there's really no reason for them to have players stand if they don't want to.

Secondly, Trump should shut his damn mouth. It is highly unprofessional and comes off as borderline authoritarian when he makes that kind of public statement. Literally throwing fuel on the fire for no good reason.
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Caution999 posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

eston posted...

"I watch football to get away from black peoples' opinions!"

Lol nice. I think TC needs a safe space

Typical liberal.

Making it about race. White men have kneeled in support as well. Also, there are white players in the NFL.

But way to generalize the entire league as black.

Who's the racist now?

This.
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Presidents shouldn't share their sports opinions then.

People only want others to shut up when they disagree with what they say. You don't see the conservative posters of CE telling James Woods to stick to acting.
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Yeah, that's a fair compromise. Cops can continue to murder black people, and black people will only protest it somewhere you don't have to listen.
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Lol trump is amazing

Does anyone even know what this "protest" is about anymore?

Cops? Violence? Inequality? Racism? Trump?

Lol flip a coin

Just another "movement" that's now lost any sort of consistent message
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hockeybub89 posted...

Presidents shouldn't share their sports opinions then.

People only want others to shut up when they disagree with what they say. You don't see the conservative posters of CE telling James Woods to stick to acting.

Oh, I think obama set the bar by taking sides in the Zimmerman case and taking sides with blm. Trump calling somebody out for being an anti-police, anti-white, anti-American diva crybaby is not the same as obama trying to divide the country.
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Get thicker skin you fucking crybaby.
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--kresnik-- posted...

Caution999 posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

eston posted...

"I watch football to get away from black peoples' opinions!"

Lol nice. I think TC needs a safe space

Typical liberal.

Making it about race. White men have kneeled in support as well. Also, there are white players in the NFL.

But way to generalize the entire league as black.

Who's the racist now?

This.

There's a common reason why they kneel.
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