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TrollSlayer11
09/24/17 10:16:38 PM
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I don't know if I count as a conservative but I don't care who kneels.

I just find it pathetic that blacks somehow think we're "sticking it to the power" by kneeling during the anthem or that this somehow makes us more powerful. We're getting down on a knee during the anthem because Trump "hurt our feelings"? That makes us weak.

What would be strong is if instead of kneeling for a song and then going to play the game anyway, black players formed their own NFL and pretty much took over. Black teams, black coaches, black owners. Take all the talent from the NFL and just form our own league owned by us and force the media and corporations to fall in line with the talent and the big names.

So tired of liberal blacks always doing the most pussified type of protesting. Hands up, kneeling down, begging white people not to shoot. It's f***ing pathetic.


Also I think it's funny that people are calling these protests a "human right". Clearly they don't understand contracts or employment law because the leagues and teams have these players by the balls. Sure it's "within their rights" to kneel and it's "within the rights" of the organization to sack them if they want. Just like I can wear a pink p**** hat to work and it'd be "within my rights" and my employer could easily fire me for it.

That's just my two cents.

So I don't care if people kneel or stand. Also I'm a veteran and I've never felt that someone disrespecting the flag or the anthem was a personal attack on me or my fellow soldiers. A flag is a piece of cloth. The anthem is a song. It affects me in zero ways if someone wants to "disrespect" or disregard them. I took an oath to defend the Constitution and the Constitution clearly defends their right to do those things.

That's all I've got.
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Anteaterking
09/24/17 10:18:47 PM
#152:


TrollSlayer11 posted...
What would be strong is if instead of kneeling for a song and then going to play the game anyway, black players formed their own NFL and pretty much took over. Black teams, black coaches, black owners. Take all the talent from the NFL and just form our own league owned by us and force the media and corporations to fall in line with the talent and the big names.


This is an incredibly naive suggestion.
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TrollSlayer11
09/24/17 10:19:13 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
What would be strong is if instead of kneeling for a song and then going to play the game anyway, black players formed their own NFL and pretty much took over. Black teams, black coaches, black owners. Take all the talent from the NFL and just form our own league owned by us and force the media and corporations to fall in line with the talent and the big names.


This is an incredibly naive suggestion.


Why?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/25/17 2:44:35 AM
#154:


The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Second, let's get to the main point: Football fans watch the games to get away from reality.

Spoken like a true white person smfh


Judging what a person does or says based on their race? Hmm, I think there is a word for that.

Racist


can you lower that to a "trying 1 hard" by any chance?
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Kim Kusanagi
09/25/17 9:20:26 AM
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Lol @ Addy calling others racists
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Lordsai
09/25/17 10:03:49 AM
#156:


Amazing how these liberals are bending the knee to trump :)
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Anteaterking
09/25/17 10:06:24 AM
#157:


TrollSlayer11 posted...
Anteaterking posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
What would be strong is if instead of kneeling for a song and then going to play the game anyway, black players formed their own NFL and pretty much took over. Black teams, black coaches, black owners. Take all the talent from the NFL and just form our own league owned by us and force the media and corporations to fall in line with the talent and the big names.


This is an incredibly naive suggestion.


Why?


It's obviously not easy to form your own league, even if you have the star players going along with it. Are there a lot of wealthy black people who are just waiting to invest a large amount of money into a protest league? Can you fill a league with just black coaches with NFL experience? Are all of those players going to take huge pay cuts to play in a segregated league?

It just seems like it would be a step backwards, not forwards.
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TrollSlayer11
09/25/17 12:20:22 PM
#158:


Anteaterking posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
Anteaterking posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
What would be strong is if instead of kneeling for a song and then going to play the game anyway, black players formed their own NFL and pretty much took over. Black teams, black coaches, black owners. Take all the talent from the NFL and just form our own league owned by us and force the media and corporations to fall in line with the talent and the big names.


This is an incredibly naive suggestion.


Why?


It's obviously not easy to form your own league, even if you have the star players going along with it. Are there a lot of wealthy black people who are just waiting to invest a large amount of money into a protest league? Can you fill a league with just black coaches with NFL experience? Are all of those players going to take huge pay cuts to play in a segregated league?

It just seems like it would be a step backwards, not forwards.


Right and kneeling on the grass is a step forwards. Swear this is the generation of Instagram activism. Act all indignant and morally outraged about something then continue on as if nothing has changed. It's not like these players are doing a REAL protest like Muhammad Ali in the 60s who actually sacrificed his career over the immoral war in Vietnam.

Fucking hacks. Tired of these halfway crooks who try to claim to be with the "struggle" but keep catching the balls and collecting the checks from their masters.

Why I don't even really support these bullshit "social media activism" movements.
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--kresnik--
09/25/17 12:21:17 PM
#159:


Lordsai posted...
Amazing how these liberals are bending the knee to trump :)

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Anteaterking
09/25/17 12:23:21 PM
#160:


TrollSlayer11 posted...
Right and kneeling on the grass is a step forwards. Swear this is the generation of Instagram activism. Act all indignant and morally outraged about something then continue on as if nothing has changed. It's not like these players are doing a REAL protest like Muhammad Ali in the 60s who actually sacrificed his career over the immoral war in Vietnam.

f***ing hacks. Tired of these halfway crooks who try to claim to be with the "struggle" but keep catching the balls and collecting the checks from their masters.

Why I don't even really support these bulls*** "social media activism" movements.


I'm not even trying to argue with you about whether the protests are "worthwhile".

I just called the idea of "making our own league" naive.
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--kresnik--
09/25/17 12:23:24 PM
#161:


We went from having a president who encouraged anti-American, anti-police, and anti-white actions, to a president who calls them out.
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Muffinz0rz
09/25/17 12:41:00 PM
#162:


--kresnik-- posted...
We went from having a president who encouraged anti-American, anti-police, and anti-white actions, to a president who calls them out.

Why is sitting for the anthem anti-American? If anything, it's pro-American. It's you utilizing your freedom as an American to choose whether to sit or stand.

Being forced to stand is the more anti-American than being given the option to sit or stand is.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/25/17 12:42:20 PM
#163:


"Thinking NFL players are 'protesting the flag' is like thinking Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation."

#unlearn
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--kresnik--
09/25/17 12:43:19 PM
#164:


Muffinz0rz posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
We went from having a president who encouraged anti-American, anti-police, and anti-white actions, to a president who calls them out.

Why is sitting for the anthem anti-American? If anything, it's pro-American. It's you utilizing your freedom as an American to choose whether to sit or stand.

Being forced to stand is the more anti-American than being given the option to sit or stand is.

Then you completely miss the point. Being anti police and anti white is not okay.
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Muffinz0rz
09/25/17 12:45:03 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
We went from having a president who encouraged anti-American, anti-police, and anti-white actions, to a president who calls them out.

Why is sitting for the anthem anti-American? If anything, it's pro-American. It's you utilizing your freedom as an American to choose whether to sit or stand.

Being forced to stand is the more anti-American than being given the option to sit or stand is.

Then you completely miss the point. Being anti police and anti white is not okay.

People are allowed to have their own reasons for kneeling, but I'm not talking about those reasons.

I'm talking about the action of kneeling.

People can do it if they want. Kneeling or not kneeling either way is American. The non-American part comes when people are forced to do one or the other.
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--kresnik--
09/25/17 1:21:38 PM
#168:


They're bending the knee to Trump.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/25/17 1:30:31 PM
#169:


--kresnik-- posted...
They're bending the knee to Trump.


trump supporters saying this is like ~14% more asinine than hillary supporters saying "but popular vote..."
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--kresnik--
09/25/17 1:36:10 PM
#170:


Saying Hillary won the popular vote is like saying that The Black Sox were legit. She cheated and used dead people and immigrants.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/25/17 1:41:25 PM
#171:


--kresnik-- posted...
Saying Hillary won the popular vote is like saying that The Black Sox were legit. She cheated and used dead people and immigrants.


Burden of proof on you. What would the final numbers have been after adjusting for that? If you and your numerous legit sources can prove that she would have lost the popular vote, I will knock my percentage down from 14 to possibly as low as 10%, in regard to what I said in my last post.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/25/17 1:44:09 PM
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inb4 baseless speculation






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TheBiggerWiggle
09/25/17 1:48:41 PM
#173:


How the fuck did CE give liberalFAQS a 200+ topic about kneeling?

Let me guess, he's been dismissing the problems black people face?
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Caution999
09/25/17 1:50:35 PM
#174:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
How the fuck did CE give liberalFAQS a 200+ topic about kneeling?

Let me guess, he's been dismissing the problems black people face?


So you admit you didn't read my original post?

I want more people talking about the issue and acting on it - not just taking a knee and going "ok I've done my social justice for the day!"
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mortimerjames
09/25/17 1:53:31 PM
#175:


Kaep has been doing a lot of talking, and the players who kneel are showing their support for him.
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Questionmarktarius
09/25/17 1:54:56 PM
#176:


It's a fad that will go away on its own. There's no need to be upset about it.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/25/17 1:55:30 PM
#177:


Caution999 posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
How the fuck did CE give liberalFAQS a 200+ topic about kneeling?

Let me guess, he's been dismissing the problems black people face?


So you admit you didn't read my original post?

I want more people talking about the issue and acting on it - not just taking a knee and going "ok I've done my social justice for the day!"


you're not even qualified to weigh in on your own topic, lol.
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TheBiggerWiggle
09/25/17 1:55:37 PM
#178:


Caution999 posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
How the fuck did CE give liberalFAQS a 200+ topic about kneeling?

Let me guess, he's been dismissing the problems black people face?


So you admit you didn't read my original post?

I want more people talking about the issue and acting on it - not just taking a knee and going "ok I've done my social justice for the day!"


Of course I didn't read it. I opened the topic, saw the liberFAQs tag, and then felt bad for CE for making this a 200 post topic.
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Caution999
09/25/17 1:57:15 PM
#179:


Typical liberal.

You want the cliff notes version of everything and then wonder why you're uninformed.

You let the news media decide your thoughts and opinions by showing you a 15 second clip that was taken out of context.
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Kim Kusanagi
09/25/17 1:58:30 PM
#180:


--kresnik-- posted...
Saying Hillary won the popular vote is like saying that The Black Sox were legit. She cheated and used dead people and immigrants.


Can you prove it southy
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TheBiggerWiggle
09/25/17 1:59:32 PM
#181:


I'm not a liberal and I won't be engaging your nonsense anymore ITT.

Quit feeding the trolls, CE. This shit is why people like TC still post here.
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Caution999
09/25/17 1:59:49 PM
#182:


If Trump won the popular vote and Hillary won the electoral college, would Kim be clamoring for a change to the system?

*thinking emoji*
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Kim Kusanagi
09/25/17 2:00:37 PM
#183:


Caution999 posted...
If Trump won the popular vote and Hillary won the electoral college, would Kim be clamoring for a change to the system?

*thinking emoji*


Ive been saying it for 17 years libby
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Caution999
09/25/17 2:01:30 PM
#184:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
I'm not a liberal and I won't be engaging your nonsense anymore ITT.

Quit feeding the trolls, CE. This shit is why people like TC still post here.



This topic was very respectful until people came in here without reading my posts (because tl;dr is easier!!!) and assumed I was being some sort of bigot.

Pro tip: if I was, the topic would've been moderated. The fact that it's still here means the moderators know I wasn't trying to be offensive.
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Caution999
09/25/17 2:03:27 PM
#185:


If the attitude of the common liberal is "I don't want to read all of THAT!!"

That is pretty revealing. It means they don't put the effort into the research of your beliefs.

Very telling
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/25/17 2:03:43 PM
#186:


Caution999 posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
I'm not a liberal and I won't be engaging your nonsense anymore ITT.

Quit feeding the trolls, CE. This shit is why people like TC still post here.



This topic was very respectful until people came in here without reading my posts (because tl;dr is easier!!!) and assumed I was being some sort of bigot.

Pro tip: if I was, the topic would've been moderated. The fact that it's still here means the moderators know I wasn't trying to be offensive.


Someone needs his afternoon nap...
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Questionmarktarius
09/25/17 2:05:10 PM
#187:


Caution999 posted...
If the attitude of the common liberal is "I don't want to read all of THAT!!"

That is pretty revealing. It means they don't put the effort into the research of your beliefs.

Very telling

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--kresnik--
09/25/17 3:42:47 PM
#188:


Caution999 posted...
If the attitude of the common liberal is "I don't want to read all of THAT!!"

That is pretty revealing. It means they don't put the effort into the research of your beliefs.

Very telling

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