Poll of the Day > Trump called Colin Kaepernick (and other football protesters) a son of a bitch.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Glad we have such a professional president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrW-GI_9IL8
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Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.
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To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.

The president shouldn't be calling people SOBs (and to be fired) for exercising their first amendment rights.
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Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult
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Trump is a piece of shit.
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Trump is a cuck

GanonsSpirit posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.

The president shouldn't be calling people SOBs (and to be fired) for exercising their first amendment rights.

Why not?
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GanonsSpirit posted...

Glad we have such a professional president.

Kinda like that one president who called Kanye West a jackass and the other who called a reporter a major league asshole?

GanonsSpirit posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.

The president shouldn't be calling people SOBs (and to be fired) for exercising their first amendment rights.

Why not?

GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Then what about Obama's other inflammatory remarks? What's your excuse for claims he's given on the record, be they completely uninformed ones which incited racial tensions (Beer Summit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," etc) or were just flat-out wrong ("It's easier for inner-city kids to get their hands on a gun than a book.")? What about when Obama went on a late-night tv show and proceeded to make joke about handicapped kids? (The last of which, by the way, is far worse than criticizing fully-functionally adults who choose to be jackasses.)
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Trump made a mistake. Some of the National Anthem protesters are very fine people.
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Zeus posted...
GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Then what about Obama's other inflammatory remarks? What's your excuse for claims he's given on the record, be they completely uninformed ones which incited racial tensions (Beer Summit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," etc) or were just flat-out wrong ("It's easier for inner-city kids to get their hands on a gun than a book.")? What about when Obama went on a late-night tv show and proceeded to make joke about handicapped kids? (The last of which, by the way, is far worse than criticizing fully-functionally adults who choose to be jackasses.)

We are in a completely different ballgame now. Trump says things every day that would have been showstoppers before his presidency because we are just overloaded with insanity and lies. I don't even see what's offensive about the Trayvon comment. When Trump gives a speech I'm humiliated as a citizen of this country. If you honestly can't see the difference in decorum, thoughtfulness, and maturity between the two presidents then there's nothing I can say.
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I love President Trump because he doesn't mince words. Those football players like Kaepernick are idiots.

Whatever. We live in the land of sissies, hopefully Trump can end this PC bullshit.

If only he got this worked up about Nazis.

GhostGiblet posted...

Zeus posted...
GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Then what about Obama's other inflammatory remarks? What's your excuse for claims he's given on the record, be they completely uninformed ones which incited racial tensions (Beer Summit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," etc) or were just flat-out wrong ("It's easier for inner-city kids to get their hands on a gun than a book.")? What about when Obama went on a late-night tv show and proceeded to make joke about handicapped kids? (The last of which, by the way, is far worse than criticizing fully-functionally adults who choose to be jackasses.)

We are in a completely different ballgame now. Trump says things every day that would have been showstoppers before his presidency because we are just overloaded with insanity and lies. I don't even see what's offensive about the Trayvon comment. When Trump gives a speech I'm humiliated as a citizen of this country. If you honestly can't see the difference in decorum, thoughtfulness, and maturity between the two presidents then there's nothing I can say.

lolwut? You mean like how "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" -- a completely bald-faced lie which Obama and his cronies knew and for which he was busted -- derailed Obama's career by... what, giving him a re-election? Politicians haven't been held accountable for shit since 1992 when GHWB's "Read my lips: No new taxes" came back to bite him in the ass. If you can't see that, you need to put down the Kool-Aid.

All of which overlooks how many "controversies" in this day and age are manufactured by the press, which has been the case since the 24-hour news cycle first became a thing and has only accelerated as the media has been increasingly driven by ideological agendas. For instance, it should surprise nobody when a Clinton ally buys the WaPo then uses it to slam Clinton's enemies, running frequent pieces against Sanders and Trump without any regard for impartiality or balance.
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He uninvited the Warriors as well. Trump went into the NBA and NFL in his speech.
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LeBron tweet: U bum @StephenCurry30 already said he ain't going! So therefore ain't no invite. Going to White House was a great honor until you showed up!


"As a veteran and patriot, I fought so that others could exercise their rights as citizens. If you choose to sit for the national anthem, you have every right to do so! Those rights have been bought and paid for by every veteran who has fought or died for their country."

-Daniel
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Imagine being such a piece of garbage that you defend Trump's racism and attacks on the constitution.
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Zeus posted...

GhostGiblet posted...

Zeus posted...
GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Then what about Obama's other inflammatory remarks? What's your excuse for claims he's given on the record, be they completely uninformed ones which incited racial tensions (Beer Summit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," etc) or were just flat-out wrong ("It's easier for inner-city kids to get their hands on a gun than a book.")? What about when Obama went on a late-night tv show and proceeded to make joke about handicapped kids? (The last of which, by the way, is far worse than criticizing fully-functionally adults who choose to be jackasses.)

We are in a completely different ballgame now. Trump says things every day that would have been showstoppers before his presidency because we are just overloaded with insanity and lies. I don't even see what's offensive about the Trayvon comment. When Trump gives a speech I'm humiliated as a citizen of this country. If you honestly can't see the difference in decorum, thoughtfulness, and maturity between the two presidents then there's nothing I can say.

lolwut? You mean like how "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" -- a completely bald-faced lie which Obama and his cronies knew and for which he was busted -- derailed Obama's career by... what, giving him a re-election? Politicians haven't been held accountable for shit since 1992 when GHWB's "Read my lips: No new taxes" came back to bite him in the ass. If you can't see that, you need to put down the Kool-Aid.

All of which overlooks how many "controversies" in this day and age are manufactured by the press, which has been the case since the 24-hour news cycle first became a thing and has only accelerated as the media has been increasingly driven by ideological agendas. For instance, it should surprise nobody when a Clinton ally buys the WaPo then uses it to slam Clinton's enemies, running frequent pieces against Sanders and Trump without any regard for impartiality or balance.

Go back to /pol/
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unprofessional as it may be, but protesting as a football player at a football game is unprofessional as well, its one thing to do it on social media or during your free time, but when you are wearing that jersey on that field you represent your team and the NFL, not your personal opinions.
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YahooPoster posted...

LeBron tweet: U bum @ StephenCurry30 already said he ain't going! So therefore ain't no invite. Going to White House was a great honor until you showed up!

...literally not how invites work, but you can't expect a basketball player to understand much of anything.

EgoKiller801 posted...

Zeus posted...

GhostGiblet posted...

Zeus posted...
GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Then what about Obama's other inflammatory remarks? What's your excuse for claims he's given on the record, be they completely uninformed ones which incited racial tensions (Beer Summit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," etc) or were just flat-out wrong ("It's easier for inner-city kids to get their hands on a gun than a book.")? What about when Obama went on a late-night tv show and proceeded to make joke about handicapped kids? (The last of which, by the way, is far worse than criticizing fully-functionally adults who choose to be jackasses.)

We are in a completely different ballgame now. Trump says things every day that would have been showstoppers before his presidency because we are just overloaded with insanity and lies. I don't even see what's offensive about the Trayvon comment. When Trump gives a speech I'm humiliated as a citizen of this country. If you honestly can't see the difference in decorum, thoughtfulness, and maturity between the two presidents then there's nothing I can say.

lolwut? You mean like how "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" -- a completely bald-faced lie which Obama and his cronies knew and for which he was busted -- derailed Obama's career by... what, giving him a re-election? Politicians haven't been held accountable for shit since 1992 when GHWB's "Read my lips: No new taxes" came back to bite him in the ass. If you can't see that, you need to put down the Kool-Aid.

All of which overlooks how many "controversies" in this day and age are manufactured by the press, which has been the case since the 24-hour news cycle first became a thing and has only accelerated as the media has been increasingly driven by ideological agendas. For instance, it should surprise nobody when a Clinton ally buys the WaPo then uses it to slam Clinton's enemies, running frequent pieces against Sanders and Trump without any regard for impartiality or balance.

Go back to /pol/

Go back to any Reddit "board." You Reddit trolls aren't welcome here. Or, at the very least, hop off your troll alt if you're going to be talking to me.
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free speech is funny in that it only applies to what the government can do to you.

that's it.

no one else. you tell a business owner you're going to punch him in the taint, he can kick you out. because he does not need to follow the first amendment, because he isn't part of the government.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

right there.

it means that you can't get in trouble from the government for what you say (lol you absolutely can though). just as you're free to call trump a douchy queef bag, so is he in calling you a jackass bitch king. now if you called him a cobblestone dick smasher, and he threw you in jail for it, then that would be a violation of free speech.

a more focused wording:

Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction

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Trump is a nationalist WWE superstar character.
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Zeus posted...

GhostGiblet posted...

Zeus posted...
GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Then what about Obama's other inflammatory remarks? What's your excuse for claims he's given on the record, be they completely uninformed ones which incited racial tensions (Beer Summit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," etc) or were just flat-out wrong ("It's easier for inner-city kids to get their hands on a gun than a book.")? What about when Obama went on a late-night tv show and proceeded to make joke about handicapped kids? (The last of which, by the way, is far worse than criticizing fully-functionally adults who choose to be jackasses.)

We are in a completely different ballgame now. Trump says things every day that would have been showstoppers before his presidency because we are just overloaded with insanity and lies. I don't even see what's offensive about the Trayvon comment. When Trump gives a speech I'm humiliated as a citizen of this country. If you honestly can't see the difference in decorum, thoughtfulness, and maturity between the two presidents then there's nothing I can say.

lolwut? You mean like how "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" -- a completely bald-faced lie which Obama and his cronies knew and for which he was busted -- derailed Obama's career by... what, giving him a re-election? Politicians haven't been held accountable for shit since 1992 when GHWB's "Read my lips: No new taxes" came back to bite him in the ass. If you can't see that, you need to put down the Kool-Aid.

All of which overlooks how many "controversies" in this day and age are manufactured by the press, which has been the case since the 24-hour news cycle first became a thing and has only accelerated as the media has been increasingly driven by ideological agendas. For instance, it should surprise nobody when a Clinton ally buys the WaPo then uses it to slam Clinton's enemies, running frequent pieces against Sanders and Trump without any regard for impartiality or balance.

Lol what about the nonstop lies about "locking her up" during his campaign? Or anything else he pretty much ran his campaign on?

KevinceKostner posted...

Zeus posted...

GhostGiblet posted...

Zeus posted...
GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Then what about Obama's other inflammatory remarks? What's your excuse for claims he's given on the record, be they completely uninformed ones which incited racial tensions (Beer Summit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," etc) or were just flat-out wrong ("It's easier for inner-city kids to get their hands on a gun than a book.")? What about when Obama went on a late-night tv show and proceeded to make joke about handicapped kids? (The last of which, by the way, is far worse than criticizing fully-functionally adults who choose to be jackasses.)

We are in a completely different ballgame now. Trump says things every day that would have been showstoppers before his presidency because we are just overloaded with insanity and lies. I don't even see what's offensive about the Trayvon comment. When Trump gives a speech I'm humiliated as a citizen of this country. If you honestly can't see the difference in decorum, thoughtfulness, and maturity between the two presidents then there's nothing I can say.

lolwut? You mean like how "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" -- a completely bald-faced lie which Obama and his cronies knew and for which he was busted -- derailed Obama's career by... what, giving him a re-election? Politicians haven't been held accountable for shit since 1992 when GHWB's "Read my lips: No new taxes" came back to bite him in the ass. If you can't see that, you need to put down the Kool-Aid.

All of which overlooks how many "controversies" in this day and age are manufactured by the press, which has been the case since the 24-hour news cycle first became a thing and has only accelerated as the media has been increasingly driven by ideological agendas. For instance, it should surprise nobody when a Clinton ally buys the WaPo then uses it to slam Clinton's enemies, running frequent pieces against Sanders and Trump without any regard for impartiality or balance.

Lol what about the nonstop lies about "locking her up" during his campaign? Or anything else he pretty much ran his campaign on?

not that i'm defending it because I do hate outright lies as campaign promises, but I want you to list me all the presidents to have kept all their promises. I assure its a very very short list.

when running for pres. all they ever do is tell you what they think you want to hear. then when in office try to do just enough so they'll get re elected.
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Zeus posted...

Go back to any Reddit "board." Reddit trolls aren't welcome here. Or, at the very least, hop off your troll alt if you're going to be talking to me.

No alt here. Maybe I shouldn't be posting here. I didn't realize this board was filled with a bunch of angsty Alt Right trash.
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Well, it is

EgoKiller801 posted...

Zeus posted...

Go back to any Reddit "board." Reddit trolls aren't welcome here. Or, at the very least, hop off your troll alt if you're going to be talking to me.

No alt here. Maybe I shouldn't be posting here. I didn't realize this board was filled with a bunch of angsty Alt Right trash.

no, just zues
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Those players are using sports to push their political agenda, Why is it bad when Trump does it?

KevinceKostner posted...

Lol what about the nonstop lies about "locking her up" during his campaign? Or anything else he pretty much ran his campaign on?

There's a difference between knowing lies and merely failing to do something. Trump's promise to appoint a special prosecutor was a glaring lie because, given how quickly he walked that back, he clearly had no intention of fulfilling it. A lot of his other promises he's tried to carry out so far. That's different than, say, putting together a health care plan where you *know* that people are going to lose their doctors then assuring people that it won't happen.

EgoKiller801 posted...

Zeus posted...

Go back to any Reddit "board." Reddit trolls aren't welcome here. Or, at the very least, hop off your troll alt if you're going to be talking to me.

No alt here. Maybe I shouldn't be posting here. I didn't realize this board was filled with a bunch of angsty Alt Right trash.

You're either a troll or an alt-left zealot who makes ridiculous claims about anybody who disagrees with your ridiculous agenda. At the end of the day, which one you are doesn't matter. Finally, let me play you some music for your grand exit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoyvvEWHodk
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I don't have to go anywhere. Boo-hoo 4 U.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.

Yeah, he's free to, and we are free to criticize him. He also is an elected official; he's technically an employee of the state. Go into your boss' office tomorrow and call him a son of a bitch. See how much 'freedom of speech' protects you.

Freedom of speech, by the way, doesn't refer to an individuals right to say anything consequence free (for example, you can't yell 'FIRE!' in a crowded theater or tell a cop you are going to kill him), it refers to the freedom of people to publish their opinions and ideas without the government censoring them.

These ungrateful dudes make millions of dollars playing a game for a living. They need to show respect to their country for giving them that chance.

ninja_lootz posted...

GanonsSpirit posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.

The president shouldn't be calling people SOBs (and to be fired) for exercising their first amendment rights.

Why not?

Because the first amendment guarantees them freedom from government censorship. The president is a part of the government, ergo the president applying any sort of pressure to prevent them from saying what they're saying is governmental censorship.
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I give up.

Can we send this video back in time? You know, as a warning? Hey guys, maybe eugenics aren't such a bad idea...

adjl posted...

ninja_lootz posted...

GanonsSpirit posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.

The president shouldn't be calling people SOBs (and to be fired) for exercising their first amendment rights.

Why not?

Because the first amendment guarantees them freedom from government censorship. The president is a part of the government, ergo the president applying any sort of pressure to prevent them from saying what they're saying is governmental censorship.

What pressure? He stated his opinion and no one has any obligation to act on it. It's not like he's calling the team owner and asking for them to be fired.

Come to think of it, with your logic wouldn't condemning white nationalists also be government censorship?
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Trump is using all this to take attention away from his health care bill. And those sports people are either too dumb to realise it or are in on it.
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Yet his bill isn't looking good. All that distraction for nothing.

Dash_Harber posted...

Go into your boss' office tomorrow and call him a son of a b****. See how much 'freedom of speech' protects you.

I did this. He gave me a promotion!

ninja_lootz posted...

What pressure? He stated his opinion and no one has any obligation to act on it.

He wouldn't state his opinion if he wasn't trying to convince people of it, and where his opinion is what action he thinks should be taken, that means he's trying to convince people to take action to punish people for political dissent.

ninja_lootz posted...

Come to think of it, with your logic wouldn't condemning white nationalists also be government censorship?

If he were personally identifying the people involved and calling for them to be fired? Yes.
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adjl posted...

ninja_lootz posted...

GanonsSpirit posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Free speech is funny like that. You can do something and others can call you an SOB for it. What a time to be alive.

The president shouldn't be calling people SOBs (and to be fired) for exercising their first amendment rights.

Why not?

Because the first amendment guarantees them freedom from government censorship. The president is a part of the government, ergo the president applying any sort of pressure to prevent them from saying what they're saying is governmental censorship.

Except that's never what it meant and that clearly doesn't fit any criterion for censorship.
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Also it's arguable to what extent the founding fathers even believed in the First Amendment, because they used laws like the Alien and Sedition Acts to arrest journalists who were critical of the administration.
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Glad we have such a professional president.

This is not new behaviour.
I'm actually a little more annoyed that he effectively called some woman he doesn't even know a bitch and people aren't a lot more outraged about it.
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WarGreymon77 posted...

These ungrateful dudes make millions of dollars playing a game for a living. They need to show respect to their country for giving them that chance.

They'd be disrespectful if they burnt or spit on the flag (which the courts have, on occasion, ruled is protected speech even if it offends and/or angers people). When I served in the AF in the 1980s, we were told that the flag's a piece of cloth; not an idol to be worshipped. Besides I believe that Trump is only doing this because he couldn't buy an NFL franchise decades earlier and figures that it's time to pay the NFL back for their refusal to sell a franchise to him.

GhostGiblet posted...

Duck-I-Says posted...

To be fair Obama called Kayne West a jackass.

That was off the record and just happened to be recorded. Trump has said hundreds of unprofessional and inflammatory things in an official capacity. He has no idea how to act like an adult

Honestly I always felt like that conversation was recorded and released on purpose as a PR bump since pretty much everyone hated Kanye in that scenario
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Good, these players are absolutely stupid and its overall disrespectful
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Leave it to some guys who have taken way too many hits to the head to think this is the way to protest inequality. Why don't i get my political insight from some professional boxers while I'm at it lol

Football players protesting racism = sons of bitches

Alt right neo Nazis = pretty fine people

According to Trump lmao okay
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Jen0125 posted...

Alt right neo Nazis = pretty fine people

According to Trump lmao okay

"Racism is evil -- and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,"

This is a quote from Trump made on August 14th
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Peterass posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Alt right neo Nazis = pretty fine people

According to Trump lmao okay

"Racism is evil -- and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,"

This is a quote from Trump made on August 14th

Yeah when push comes to shove he'll go ahead and read a script someone else wrote for him. He actually went ahead and did a 180 on that practically the next day though. So much for that speech.
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