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CountessRolab
09/21/17 2:59:59 AM
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Do you support a $15/hr minimum wage?


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Newhopes
09/21/17 3:00:50 AM
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No, minimum wages don't solve anything.
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solosnake
09/21/17 3:01:36 AM
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It ultimately doesnt matter.
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TheMarthKoopa
09/21/17 3:03:38 AM
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Minimum wage shouldn't even be a thing
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creativeme
09/21/17 3:05:23 AM
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then we just won't be able to afford to live on 15 an hour and a lot of the places paying less will go out of business. then everyone that's making 15+ an hour will still be making the same and feel they aren't getting paid enough but their businesses won't be able to afford to pay their employees more.

so it just won't fix anything.
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LinkAndEpona
09/21/17 5:30:00 PM
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Don't like your poverty wages? Get a different job or change your lifestyle.
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Kyurem-BW
09/21/17 5:37:23 PM
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if you raise minimum wage then the stores would reflect that in their prices making a vicious circle leading to everything being more expensive
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pegusus123456
09/21/17 5:38:03 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Minimum wage shouldn't even be a thing

lmao

You are not part of this conversation.
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LinkAndEpona
09/21/17 5:38:14 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
if you raise minimum wage then the stores would reflect that in their prices making a vicious circle leading to everything being more expensive


Finally someone else who is smart and speaks English.
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Medz1206
09/21/17 5:38:51 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/21/17 5:38:53 PM
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You shouldn't be making $15/hour just to take my McDonald's order, I would much rather just order from a kiosk anyway so I don't have to talk to you
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CADE FOSTER
09/21/17 5:40:33 PM
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emblem boy
09/21/17 5:41:17 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
if you raise minimum wage then the stores would reflect that in their prices making a vicious circle leading to everything being more expensive


I mean, whether or not the price increase is a lot depends on what percentage of the labor costs is reflected in those prices right?
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JohnLennon6
09/21/17 5:41:29 PM
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No, if you want a better wage find a better job.
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TheVipaGTS
09/21/17 5:42:01 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
if you raise minimum wage then the stores would reflect that in their prices making a vicious circle leading to everything being more expensive

Yea. They already do it without wage increases too. Using that as a reason we shouldn’t have a livable wage is dumb.
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emblem boy
09/21/17 5:42:36 PM
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Anyway, no I don't think there should be a national minimum wage if that's what you're asking. Seems like something a state or city should decide since all locations are different
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Vindris_SNH
09/21/17 5:43:34 PM
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Not for all states. $10/hr is better in most places. Minimum wage is OK, but honestly I think we would've been better off as a country without it.

No minimum wage means people have more incentive to join a union, meaning unions are stronger, and more unions would exist by now, probably even a union for entry level workers. I'd be willing to bet that the people would do better, actively fighting for their own fair wage than how well the government is doing, fighting for them now.
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Balrog0
09/21/17 5:43:50 PM
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absolutely not
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John_Galt
09/21/17 5:43:52 PM
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Fuck no

Put in the effort to improve your skill set if you want a higher wage
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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/21/17 5:44:30 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
Minimum wage will always eventually need to be raised.

My question is, what if the minimum wage went up in some regards to inflation or minimum money to live in an apartment for 2, while paying for food and transportation costs depending on your local area?


You shouldn't be making more money than a new college grad by taking fast food orders.
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Balrog0
09/21/17 5:45:22 PM
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my first job out of undergrad was burger flipper at mcdonalds smart guy
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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/21/17 5:46:46 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
my first job out of undergrad was burger flipper at mcdonalds smart guy


I feel bad for you
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TheVipaGTS
09/21/17 5:48:12 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
Minimum wage will always eventually need to be raised.

My question is, what if the minimum wage went up in some regards to inflation or minimum money to live in an apartment for 2, while paying for food and transportation costs depending on your local area?


You shouldn't be making more money than a new college grad by taking fast food orders.

I hate this argument too. Your battle in that case shouldn’t be to keep other areas down, it should be helping entry level/college grads make more. “It’s not fair that a burger flipper makes more than me!”...how is keeping things down because “college grads don’t make a lot” helping anyone? How is it helping the college grad?
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CableZL
09/21/17 5:50:55 PM
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I mean... I see how it would benefit people who keep their jobs in that situation, but I also see how it would push companies to lay people off if they determine they either don't want to or can't afford as many workers at that pay range.

I think it'd benefit people more if they made themselves more valuable by increasing the value of their skillset than trying to push a company that pays you minimum wage to pay you $15/hour instead.
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Kyurem-BW
09/21/17 5:50:56 PM
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not saying that raising minimum wage would be bad by itself.

but raising minimum wage to $15 would make alot of people making just over that now be in the low income bracket and with the inevitable inflation that would cause would effectively cause lots of middle class to be reclassified as low class unless the current ones making just over $15/h get a big pay increase which just comes around to everything exactly as it is except now poor disabled people have to spend alot more for a loaf of bread due to the inflation.
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Balrog0
09/21/17 5:51:58 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I feel bad for you


why? that was years ago
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CADE FOSTER
09/21/17 5:53:08 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...
if you raise minimum wage then the stores would reflect that in their prices making a vicious circle leading to everything being more expensive

Yea. They already do it without wage increases too. Using that as a reason we shouldn’t have a livable wage is dumb.



Inflation happens all the time and wages never go up with it Americans are brainwashed as fuck
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PiOverlord
09/21/17 5:54:25 PM
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Basic economics explain why that is a terrible idea.
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Guide
09/21/17 5:54:40 PM
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I know the supporters mean well, but I'm nearly positive none of them has even a rudimentary understanding of economics.
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Guide
09/21/17 5:55:30 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...
if you raise minimum wage then the stores would reflect that in their prices making a vicious circle leading to everything being more expensive

Yea. They already do it without wage increases too. Using that as a reason we shouldn’t have a livable wage is dumb.



Inflation happens all the time and wages never go up with it Americans are brainwashed as fuck


Uh, you're wrong. Minimum wage has risen with inflation. Not always consistently, but it does.
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CADE FOSTER
09/21/17 5:56:07 PM
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So you guys dont want people to get of government assistance? nearly half of all walmart employees are on government help
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WizardPowers
09/21/17 5:56:24 PM
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And then those retail/fast food places fire 1/3rd of their staff and the rest get their hours cut to compensate.
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HypnoCoosh
09/21/17 5:56:37 PM
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Fuck no
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CADE FOSTER
09/21/17 5:56:47 PM
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Guide posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...
if you raise minimum wage then the stores would reflect that in their prices making a vicious circle leading to everything being more expensive

Yea. They already do it without wage increases too. Using that as a reason we shouldn’t have a livable wage is dumb.



Inflation happens all the time and wages never go up with it Americans are brainwashed as fuck


Uh, you're wrong. Minimum wage has risen with inflation. Not always consistently, but it does.


inflation is consistent as fuck tho isnt it
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DiegoSanchez206
09/21/17 6:04:41 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
So you guys dont want people to get of government assistance? nearly half of all walmart employees are on government help

I'm sorry that so many people are skilless laboroers.

The solution is more affordable education. Not throwing money at people for doing nothing with their lives.
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Guide
09/21/17 6:06:52 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
So you guys dont want people to get of government assistance? nearly half of all walmart employees are on government help

I'm sorry that so many people are skilless laboroers.

The solution is more affordable education. Not throwing money at people for doing nothing with their lives.


That's not entirely accurate. It's a small piece of the pie; ultimately, we -need- unskilled labor, and there will never be an amount skill jobs that could possibly match the amount of unskilled jobs available.
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TheVipaGTS
09/21/17 6:09:35 PM
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Also you guys understand that “burger flipper” is not the only job that pays minimum or below the cost of living right?
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DiegoSanchez206
09/21/17 6:13:12 PM
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Guide posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
So you guys dont want people to get of government assistance? nearly half of all walmart employees are on government help

I'm sorry that so many people are skilless laboroers.

The solution is more affordable education. Not throwing money at people for doing nothing with their lives.


That's not entirely accurate. It's a small piece of the pie; ultimately, we -need- unskilled labor, and there will never be an amount skill jobs that could possibly match the amount of unskilled jobs available.


Don't worry, there will always be lazy people who blame everyone else for their failures and work as a cashier at Walmart when they're 45
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Guide
09/21/17 6:15:32 PM
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Not sure if that's bait or ignorance.
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NurseRedHeart
09/21/17 6:43:07 PM
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Sorry liberals but no.
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Annihilated
09/21/17 6:48:13 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Also you guys understand that “burger flipper” is not the only job that pays minimum or below the cost of living right?


That's kind of the point.
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CountessRolab
09/21/17 11:58:51 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo
09/22/17 12:03:37 AM
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I'm fine with having no minimum wage, but is's already so low in my hood that it's basically that.

$7.25, hell yeah
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