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ChaosTonyV4
09/21/17 5:49:25 PM
#152:


It's 21 minutes long, but this clip from Rachel Maddow pretty clearly lays out reporting that was done to show this Manafort stuff was happening all along.

So when trolls like Vlado, Ulti, or whoever want to imply the investigation was done perniciously towards Trump, you know how plainly wrong they are.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/following-the-path-from-manafort-to-mueller-s-investigation-1051362371766


tl;dr Republicans changed the verbiage on their platform towards Russia,

which a certain Russian dude claimed responsibility for,

who has verified correspondence and business dealings with Manafort,

who had(/has because the end date is unknown) a contract going all the way back to 2006 to work towards the benefit of the Russian government.

Among other things.
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Jakyl25
09/21/17 5:51:04 PM
#153:


They don't test everyday people, no. Football players and people who do pro-wrestling and combat sports are most vulnerable because of the constant, repetitive head trauma.

It's very rare to find a brain of a dead participant in those sports that doesn't have it.

If you're asking if pain pill abuse can lead to CTE, no, it can't, but it obviously carries other risks.
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Jakyl25
09/21/17 5:51:41 PM
#154:


charmander6000 posted...
Lots of things can cause CTE to develop


Okay maybe I'm wrong. Enlighten me.
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charmander6000
09/21/17 5:59:41 PM
#155:


Jakyl25 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Lots of things can cause CTE to develop


Okay maybe I'm wrong. Enlighten me.


Domestic abuse, military service, seizures. Basically anything that causes repeated hits/shaking of the head over a period of time.
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Jakyl25
09/21/17 6:02:02 PM
#156:


OH okay, yes, head trauma from any number of sources, sure
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charmander6000
09/21/17 6:05:48 PM
#157:


I'm just going with how a defense lawyer will go about this because denying CTE is caused by head trauma due to sports is a losing battle.
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Corrik
09/21/17 6:11:26 PM
#158:


Have they ever tested a pain pill addict who had no history of contact sports? Because if not how can it be ruled out? Pain pills are prevalent in all the sports you listed above.
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LordoftheMorons
09/21/17 6:16:48 PM
#159:


https://twitter.com/PrestonCNN/status/910968062123368452

Something tells me that changing the debate from Graham-Cassidy vs the ACA to Graham-Cassidy vs single payer is not going to help secure three GOP 'no' votes on GC
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Jakyl25
09/21/17 6:17:51 PM
#160:


I can't say for sure, but doctors have been studying this for over a decade. I'm hoping they are competent enough to know what they're doing

Pain pill abuse is prevalent in contact sports yes, but not 99% prevalent
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dowolf
09/21/17 6:21:10 PM
#161:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/manuclearbomb/status/910551343965851651

Fired Google Guy is back on his bullshit

to be fair.

you gotta admit Grand Wizard is a pretty sweet-ass title. Though the fact that the KKK predates D&D by a -lot- sort've undermines his argument.
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charmander6000
09/21/17 6:22:58 PM
#162:


Corrik posted...
Have they ever tested a pain pill addict who had no history of contact sports? Because if not how can it be ruled out? Pain pills are prevalent in all the sports you listed above.


Not all athletes with CTE abuse pain meds
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TheRock1525
09/21/17 6:24:07 PM
#163:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/PrestonCNN/status/910968062123368452

Something tells me that changing the debate from Graham-Cassidy vs the ACA to Graham-Cassidy vs single payer is not going to help secure three GOP 'no' votes on GC


But it's annoying that our politicians have to debate this on t.v. instead of, I dunno, the chambers of Congress?
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LordoftheMorons
09/21/17 6:32:36 PM
#164:


TheRock1525 posted...
But it's annoying that our politicians have to debate this on t.v. instead of, I dunno, the chambers of Congress?

Holding real hearings for a bill totally reworking the American health care system is totally unnecessary though because it would make the bill way harder to pass and make it even less popular
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Jakyl25
09/21/17 6:33:26 PM
#165:


dowolf posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/manuclearbomb/status/910551343965851651

Fired Google Guy is back on his bullshit

to be fair.

you gotta admit Grand Wizard is a pretty sweet-ass title. Though the fact that the KKK predates D&D by a -lot- sort've undermines his argument.


I just can't get over the argument "better not mistreat D&D nerds or they'll join the KKK."
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LordoftheMorons
09/21/17 6:35:32 PM
#166:


https://twitter.com/yashar/status/910989701540192256

Trump reportedly fucking apologized to Erdogan for what happened last time

I am beyond disgusted by both of them. These pieces of shit should be arrested immediately before they can flee back to Turkey and escape justice.
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charmander6000
09/21/17 6:38:33 PM
#167:


Corrik posted...
Have they ever tested a pain pill addict who had no history of contact sports? Because if not how can it be ruled out? Pain pills are prevalent in all the sports you listed above.


Here's a mouse model where mice had similar symptoms after repeated mild traumatic brain injury

http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/neu.2013.3255

I'm not sure if you have access to it though...
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HaRRicH
09/21/17 6:41:08 PM
#168:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/PrestonCNN/status/910968062123368452

Something tells me that changing the debate from Graham-Cassidy vs the ACA to Graham-Cassidy vs single payer is not going to help secure three GOP 'no' votes on GC


I like the idea of this debate, but the timing seems poor for Democrats. America is already strongly against repeal and replace -- why give them a chance to score some points with the public before the final vote?

Also, uh...is this a tag-team match?
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HaRRicH
09/21/17 7:15:16 PM
#169:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/910989701540192256

Trump reportedly fucking apologized to Erdogan for what happened last time


Just for reference:


5/17/2017
NEW YORK TIMES - Erdogan Security Forces Launch ?Brutal Attack? on Washington Protesters, Officials Say

Eleven people were injured, including a police officer, and nine were taken to a hospital, the Metropolitan Police chief, Peter Newsham, said at a news conference on Wednesday. Two Secret Service agents were also assaulted in the melee, according to a federal law enforcement official.

The State Department condemned the attack as an assault on free speech and warned Turkey that the action would not be tolerated. ?We are communicating our concern to the Turkish government in the strongest possible terms,? said Heather Nauert, a State Department spokeswoman.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/turkish-embassy-protest-dc.html


8/29/2017
TWITTER - Kyle Griffin (MSNBC?s The Last Word)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- 19 people, including 15 Turkish security officials, indicted for attacking protesters during Erdogan visit to DC in May.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/902663740428083202
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Peace___Frog
09/21/17 10:20:52 PM
#170:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/910989701540192256

Trump reportedly fucking apologized to Erdogan for what happened last time

I am beyond disgusted by both of them. These pieces of shit should be arrested immediately before they can flee back to Turkey and escape justice.

Fucking gross.
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Inviso
09/21/17 11:03:42 PM
#171:


Holy shit. I hadn't actually seen a picture of Paul Manafort before. He...he looks like a skinny Steve Bannon.
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HaRRicH
09/22/17 12:15:44 AM
#172:


Review of August, 2017:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14MDxA6bW65IDD0qt_9CyGMO2UTmxO7eGaVb7RPap670/edit?usp=sharing


Donald Trump began August with his lowest favorability rating to date, largely due to uneducated white people dipping on him. His ratings were up at the end of the month though, so what happened this month? Probably good stuff, right?

Largely no. Here's what happened: Charlottesville, Charlottesville, Charlottesville, Charlottesville, and Charlottesville.

In a month that had Donald equating the alt-right with whoever he thinks is calling themselves the alt-left, a number of organizations spoke up more responsibly than him. Tiki torches, OkCupid, GoDaddy, Discord, Cloudflare, and Mike Godwin of Godwin's Law made stronger and more accurate statements against the influx of Nazis than our leader of the free world.


What led to this event? Surely a lot more than we can know, but here's the related stuff I have saved from this month:

Daryl Johnson had a police report leak in 2009 that right-wing violence was on the rise; fast forward to 2017, where he claims his report was proven correct despite Republican objections. This is also supported by the ADL, which said 74% of murders by domestic extremists between 2007-2016 were Republican extremists.

August 2017 revealed that Donald cut funds in June to deradicalize white supremacists back. At the beginning of August, Sam Clovis was hired who had a history of calling progressives race-traitors. The week before Charlottesville's chaos happened, the alt-right collected information on the city leaders with some offensive labels. Just before that same weekend, Jeffrey Lord got fired from CNN for saying "Sieg heil" and Sebastian Gorka told the New York Times not to be so hard on white supremacists. During the weekend, the Daily Stormer and David Duke praised Donald for his equivalencies and lack of blame on the alt-right (Richard Spencer praised the next weekend too). It was then revealed through various online conversations that violence was intended at Charlottesville. Later analysis suggested right-wing extremists are far along according to multiple pre-existing models of radicalization.

Poll-wise, we found out around this period that 68% of Trump-voters think there's a lot of racism against white people and 75% of them think news media poses a greater threat than white supremacy. Furthermore, 60% of people who approve of Trump say they'll never stop approving and 67% of Republicans approved of how Donald reacted to the weekend.

To Donald's credit, he let Steve Bannon go after this...but not without defending him first. Even still, Steve returned to Breitbart that same day and declared war on Donald's "Democrat White House."
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HaRRicH
09/22/17 12:16:10 AM
#173:


Also, there was Russia. Donald helped Donald Jr. draft his letter about his famous meeting with the Russian lawyer for dirt on Hillary. Later in the month, he thanks Vladimir Putin for dismissing US diplomats. Some of Donald's past calls leaked too, which has plenty of kind words for Russia. Robert Mueller gets his special council on all over Michael Flynn. Paul Manafort's home got raided for evidence, then he lost his lawyer the next day. DailyStormer.RU allowed that site to return after other American services booted them. Rex Tillerson denied $80,000,000 to fight against Russian and ISIS propaganda. Carter Page was investigated about being a Russian spy in 2013. Russian oligarch Len Blavatnik donated $6,350,000 to various GOP campaigns. Russian bots and likely-paid users have a concentrated network out to influence social media. Donald also sought a deal for a Trump Tower in Moscow. Felix Sater said he will manage the process where Russia can engineer Donald winning the Presidency. The GOP seeks to stop the Mueller investigation after 180 days.

Also, there's North Korea. Donald leaked information about them before threatening them with fire and fury, then he wondered if his words were tough enough. These counties continue their pissing match as Donald threw shade on Venezuela soon after too.

Also, groups disbanded. Strategic and Policy Forum, Manufacturing Council, Presidential Arts and Humanities Committee, Commerce Department, and National Infrastructure Advisory Council for cyber security faced multiple resignations if not complete disbandment. Donald also wanted to take away committee chairmanships to punish the GOP over the healthcare debacle.

Also, Donald made his first pardon. He originally tried to get Jeff Sessions to close Joe Arpaio's case earlier in the year, but eventually he freed his birther bro.

Also, hurricanes happened. Houston was underwater from a historic flood by Hurricane Harvey, with Irma and Maria coming within a month as well. During this tragedy, Donald had two important vacancies in his hurricane center staff and wouldn't recognize how powerful the hurricane was until it happened. Still, hurricane coverage led to some of his best coverage so this is probably why his ratings went up in August.
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HaRRicH
09/22/17 12:16:54 AM
#174:


Other quick hits:

*More civilians have died under Donald now in the fight against ISIS than under Obama in eight years.
*Donald takes a 17-day vacation and denies it.
*Donald refuses to give John Kelly access to his Twitter account.
*Donald cut more of Obama's programs like White House bike-sharing, fighting teen pregnancy, and banning military weapons from the police.
*Carl Icahn does insider trading in the Trump Administration.
*Jeff Sessions threatens the press over leaks.
*Betsy DeVos fuels for-profits college comeback.
*Once Democratic West Virginia Governor Jim Justice switched to become a Republican.
*Mitch McConnell gets hated on for failing with healthcare repeal.
*Secret Service depletes funds.
*Fox News gets called out over "fake news" of Seth Rich.
*Fox couldn't book a Republican to speak for the second time this administration (the first was after James Comey was fired).
*Boy Scouts denied calling Donald, who said they called and praised him.
*Durham protesters topple a Robert E. Lee statue, then turn themselves in en masse.

And the month ends with Donald's threats to DACA. Little did we know what bipartisan curveballs were ahead on this issue.....


Again though, Donald's ratings went UP from the beginning to the end of August. DNC's getting trounced in fundraising by the RNC too, plus Debbie Wasserman-Schultz had an intern get indicted for bank fraud. Don't just look at this month as purely just a Republican disaster; Democrats could capitalize better too.


Let's end with a great piece of hypocrisy that came from Fox:

https://twitter.com/jackdwagner/status/897598398492278785
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Corrik
09/22/17 12:37:06 AM
#175:


What in the literal fuck did I just read.
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Corrik
09/22/17 12:46:25 AM
#176:


Jesus....


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/09/21/dnc-falls-further-in-debt-in-august-with-abysmal-fundraising-haul-n2384691

The democratic party is in much bigger trouble than I thought. It is running monthly deficits with low monthly intake, and its cash on hand amount is pretty pathetic in comparison to the Republicans.

Hillary fucked that party up bad.
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trdl23
09/22/17 12:57:56 AM
#177:


Corrik posted...
Jesus....


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/09/21/dnc-falls-further-in-debt-in-august-with-abysmal-fundraising-haul-n2384691

The democratic party is in much bigger trouble than I thought. It is running monthly deficits with low monthly intake, and its cash on hand amount is pretty pathetic in comparison to the Republicans.

Hillary fucked that party up bad.

This problem has been years in the making. Dems don't get to guzzle nearly as many corporate, special interest, or PAC funds as Republicans do, plus their money management, like all aspects of their management, is awful.
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HaRRicH
09/22/17 1:02:44 AM
#178:


Corrik posted...
What in the literal fuck did I just read.


I take it you're NOT doing an impression of me during all of August...? Would have been pretty good if it was.

Be more specific if you have an actual issue.
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TheRock1525
09/22/17 2:26:16 AM
#179:


http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/351846-medicaid-directors-warn-repeal-bill-would-be-largest-transfer-of-financial

Every single state Medicaid Director says this bill is shit.
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Corrik
09/22/17 6:26:39 AM
#180:


Isis capital of Raqqa reported to be considered captured any day now.
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Jakyl25
09/22/17 9:17:23 AM
#181:


Captured by whom?
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Jakyl25
09/22/17 9:27:12 AM
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The Mana Sword
09/22/17 9:38:31 AM
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Eddv
09/22/17 10:01:31 AM
#184:


trdl23 posted...
This problem has been years in the making. Dems don't get to guzzle nearly as many corporate, special interest, or PAC funds as Republicans do, plus their money management, like all aspects of their management, is awful.


Plus the donors have gotten wise to that and are donating in RECORD NUMBERS...to PACs not the DNC

Of course that is the real question - with the existence of PACs what role to the National Committees even serve besides just running the primaries?

Media people are better at media strategy than politicians thats just common sense.
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Corrik
09/22/17 10:06:53 AM
#185:


Jakyl25 posted...
Captured by whom?

Coalition forces led by US. SDF and gang.
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Jakyl25
09/22/17 10:21:51 AM
#186:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Captured by whom?

Coalition forces led by US. SDF and gang.


Interesting. I wonder how that sits with Assad
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Mr Lasastryke
09/22/17 10:47:10 AM
#187:


can we please keep milo out of this topic? it's bad enough that wang keeps bringing him up.
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Jakyl25
09/22/17 11:52:26 AM
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scarletspeed7
09/22/17 11:55:02 AM
#189:


So apparently someone who I dated in 9th grade posted this on Facebook today in full support of it:

https://worldtruth.tv/1-trillion-dollar-lawsuit-filed-against-msm-for-staging-sandy-hook

I dated some weird people.
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HashtagSEP
09/22/17 12:02:33 PM
#190:


Why are crazies on the right so adamant that Sandy Hook didn't happen, again? Like, why do they care?
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FFDragon
09/22/17 12:03:15 PM
#191:


because the msm fabricated it so they could come take their guns and turn their frogs gay
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Jakyl25
09/22/17 12:04:39 PM
#192:


Because Obama's gonna use it as an excuse to take their guns.

Any day now!
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Jakyl25
09/22/17 12:06:18 PM
#193:


I mean, these are the same people who believe water vapor trails from planes are mind-control chemicals secretly being dumped on the populace to control us
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The Mana Sword
09/22/17 12:08:39 PM
#194:


Jakyl25 posted...
I mean, these are the same people who believe water vapor trails from planes are mind-control chemicals secretly being dumped on the populace to control us


sounds like something someone mind controlled by chem trails would say
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scarletspeed7
09/22/17 12:09:12 PM
#195:


Why do people want to believe such nonsense?
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Jakyl25
09/22/17 12:10:55 PM
#196:


Because it makes them feel like they're smarter than the rest

Same reason left-leaning elitists look down on southerners
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scarletspeed7
09/22/17 12:17:44 PM
#197:


Oh, this should be fun.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/911240926131089408
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Eddv
09/22/17 12:37:15 PM
#198:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Oh, this should be fun.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/911240926131089408




I know at this point i should just suspend benefit of the doubt...but what are the interim rules and what statement did DoE make to justify this?
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09/22/17 12:39:20 PM
#199:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Oh, this should be fun.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/911240926131089408

lolrochester
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banananor
09/22/17 1:40:37 PM
#200:


i have no idea what the obama-era guide on investigating campus sexual assault was, so i don't have any feelings about that right now
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09/22/17 1:53:19 PM
#201:


Jakyl25 posted...
Because it makes them feel like they're smarter than the rest

Same reason left-leaning elitists look down on southerners

or buy into anti-GMO or anti-vaxx shit
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