Poll of the Day > Game of Thrones is just a crappy LotR that's ten times as long

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DirtBasedSoap
09/07/17 8:45:24 PM
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Troll_Police_
09/07/17 8:46:21 PM
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IKR?

and lotr wasnt even that good to begin with so its a real piece of shit
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DirtBasedSoap
09/07/17 8:47:44 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
IKR?

and lotr wasnt even that good to begin with so its a real piece of shit

seriously, lotr was fucking siiiiick when I was like 10-15 but I'm not a little kid anymore.


They're still both better than Harry Potter though
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Mead
09/07/17 8:47:57 PM
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ASOIAF > LOTR
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DirtBasedSoap
09/07/17 8:49:03 PM
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Mead posted...
ASOIAF > LOTR

I actually can't read so I can't comment on the books.
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darcandkharg31
09/07/17 8:50:20 PM
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Fantasy anything is for nerds, NEEEERRRDDDDSSSSS!!!!!!
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Troll_Police_
09/07/17 8:52:39 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...


They're still both better than Harry Potter though


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DirtBasedSoap
09/07/17 8:57:46 PM
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do you still dab?
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MICHALECOLE
09/07/17 9:01:27 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
do you still dab?

Only on haters
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Zeus
09/07/17 10:26:47 PM
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"All your bad guys die and good guys survive, you can tell what's going to happen by page and at age 5."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0


In general, there's not a lot of comparison between the two beyond the fact that they're both high fantasies. LotR and the Hobbit are pretty basic stories depicting battles between good and evil whereas ASOIAF is more of a character study where even the most "evil" characters are fleshed out so they feel like people (excluding the Night King).

LotR has basically every fantasy trope (partly since it popularized many of them) while ASOIAF is kinda light in that regard. ASOIAF doesn't have a lot of fantasy races and it's fairly light on fantasy creatures. There are no magical swords, very few spells, etc.

The story in ASOIAF is a lot better than LotR/Hobbit, but Tolkien's prose is far superior. Plus, as far as iconic dragons go, Dany's pets have nothing on Smaug.
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WhiskeyDisk
09/07/17 11:26:57 PM
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Zeus posted...
There are no magical swords, very few spells, etc.


Valerian steel, dragon glass, and the flaming swords of the Brotherhood Without Borders don't count? The Faceless Men don't count? The sheer number of people revived from death don't count? Frickin dragons? The Children of the forest? Warging? The entire continent to the South of Westeros?

There's plenty of magic in ASoIaF, don't ignore it just because no one is casting Magic Missile.
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wwinterj25
09/07/17 11:44:40 PM
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Lord of the Rings doesn't have any nudity surprisingly.
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Zeus
09/08/17 3:05:34 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
Zeus posted...
There are no magical swords, very few spells, etc.


Valerian steel, dragon glass, and the flaming swords of the Brotherhood Without Borders don't count? The Faceless Men don't count? The sheer number of people revived from death don't count? Frickin dragons? The Children of the forest? Warging? The entire continent to the South of Westeros?

There's plenty of magic in ASoIaF, don't ignore it just because no one is casting Magic Missile.


No, Valerian steel and dragon glass certainly don't. Dragon glass is literally just obsidian. Nor is Valerian steel magic, it's just super-heated iron. The flaming swords aren't magic swords, they're normal swords enhanced by prayer -- and they're one of the reasons why I said "little magic" as opposed to no magic. Virtually all of the magic in Game of Thrones involves power channeled from a god, whether it's the Lord of Light charging swords and reviving people or allowing them to quasi-shapeshift.

ASOIAF eschews magic for realism, choosing to tone down the magical elements whereas Tolkien's word is fucking steeped in it. ASOIAF doesn't have swords which glow when orcs are near. It doesn't have ancient spirits taking the form of giant spiders. Its world doesn't show overt signs of gods and spirits crafting and controlling it. The primary villain isn't some elder spirit from another world; even if you count the Night King, he was just a human changed by forest magic *but* ultimately he's a background antagonist.

Sure, ASOIAF has elves but its dwarfs are just little humans rather than their own species.

And, for whatever reason, you bring up dragons while ignoring that I specifically called ASAOIAF light on fantasy creatures. You have dragons and your manticores are just bugs. However, the difference between Tolkien and GRRM is that in a Tolkien work House Greyjoy's Kraken would be real *and* guarding something. It wouldn't be a plot-important creature, but just merely an obstacle. The Harry Potter series more closely embodies Tolkien's approach to a magical world than ASOIAF because the magic is just there and doesn't need to serve a purpose. Meanwhile what little magic is in ASAOIAF is plot-centric.
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SunWuKung420
09/08/17 8:08:45 AM
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The GoT books were ok, the HBO adaptation is fucking terrible.

The LoTR books were awesome and the Hollywood adaptation were done quite well.
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OhhhJa
09/08/17 8:51:36 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The GoT books were ok, the HBO adaptation is fucking terrible.

The LoTR books were awesome and the Hollywood adaptation were done quite well.

Lol it's literally the opposite of this except that i agree that the lotr books were awesome
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Peterass
09/08/17 9:15:44 AM
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People compare the two because they are fantasy but I personally feel that the two are very different types of fantasy..It's like comparing apples and oranges...Most people that I know who love GoT didn't like LoTR because it was too nerdy for them.
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OhhhJa
09/08/17 9:22:01 AM
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Peterass posted...
People compare the two because they are fantasy but I personally feel that the two are very different types of fantasy..It's like comparing apples and oranges...Most people that I know who love GoT didn't like LoTR because it was too nerdy for them.

Yeah they're really not that similar. People just compare them bc they're the two most popular fantasies
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krazychao5
09/08/17 9:35:08 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The GoT books were ok, the HBO adaptation is fucking terrible.

The LoTR books were awesome and the Hollywood adaptation were done quite well.

I'm like, the opposite. I did not like LotR books, but found the movies great. Maybe cause I watched movies before reading. The Hobbit, however, was really good.
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Kyuubi4269
09/08/17 9:39:23 AM
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Zeus posted...
even the most "evil" characters are fleshed out so they feel like people (excluding the Night King).

And Joffrey.
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OhhhJa
09/08/17 9:42:22 AM
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krazychao5 posted...
I did not like LotR books, but found the movies great

To each their own but the lotr movies are basically a super dumbed down version of the books that leave out massive amounts of story
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FellWolf
09/08/17 9:56:17 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
krazychao5 posted...
I did not like LotR books, but found the movies great

To each their own but the lotr movies are basically a super dumbed down version of the books that leave out massive amounts of story


He didn't have attention span to read the books

Neither did I :( but I was young and didn't try hard
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krazychao5
09/08/17 9:59:22 AM
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FellWolf posted...


He didn't have attention span to read the books

Neither did I :( but I was young and didn't try hard

I was in high school when I read it, so it's possible.

I enjoyed the battle scenes in the movie, and was disappointed that all the good scenes in the books were just revealed through exposition instead of seeing it happen.
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SunWuKung420
09/08/17 10:18:10 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
The GoT books were ok, the HBO adaptation is fucking terrible.

The LoTR books were awesome and the Hollywood adaptation were done quite well.

Lol it's literally the opposite of this except that i agree that the lotr books were awesome


Then it's not "literally the opposite". You only agree with me on one of my points.
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OhhhJa
09/08/17 10:23:59 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
The GoT books were ok, the HBO adaptation is fucking terrible.

The LoTR books were awesome and the Hollywood adaptation were done quite well.

Lol it's literally the opposite of this except that i agree that the lotr books were awesome


Then it's not "literally the opposite". You only agree with me on one of my points.

That's what the except in my post is for. I just wanted to emphasize how wrong you are. It's almost like you haven't read the got books because the first three seasons are pretty much word for word and scene for scene exactly the same as the books... unless your argument is that the acting is bad which is also nearly objectively false. Whereas for lotr, the movies left out a lot from the books and even made some fairly large changes to the plot
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Zeus
09/11/17 10:32:25 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The GoT books were ok, the HBO adaptation is fucking terrible.


Honestly, having attempted to read the books, the adaption is a lot better.


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Zeus posted...
even the most "evil" characters are fleshed out so they feel like people (excluding the Night King).

And Joffrey.


Meaning that you don't think Joffrey is fleshed out? Because some of his early scenes demonstrate a lot about his character especially when it comes to his deep insecurities. The sadistic tendencies come more from people never setting limits so he keeps trying to push the bar.
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