Poll of the Day > Would Harvey make Texans Rethink about Climate change?

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DrChocolate
08/29/17 9:17:00 AM
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Would Harvey make Texans Rethink about Climate change?


well?
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Archgoat
08/29/17 9:58:02 AM
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No, I still believe in man made climate change because the science is there.
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InfernalFive
08/29/17 10:00:50 AM
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Metal_Gear_Link
08/29/17 10:27:40 AM
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InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.


Isn't climate change awareness a way for people to not lose their homes in the first place?
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InfestedAdam
08/29/17 10:48:04 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Not the time dude.

InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.

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Currant_Kaiser
08/29/17 11:19:23 AM
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InfestedAdam posted...
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Not the time dude.

InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.

Metal_Gear_Link posted...
InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.


Isn't climate change awareness a way for people to not lose their homes in the first place?


This. Seems appropriate to me.
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InfestedAdam
08/29/17 11:23:08 AM
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The body is still warm so to speak. I don't deny it being relevant to the situation but there's still a place and time for such discussion.
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SinisterSlay
08/29/17 11:50:07 AM
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I would say no.

Apparently it happened 1000 years ago? So it's probably more evidence that things are cyclical.

However, it's basically human race standard to look in the face of evidence and deny it exists. So i doubt this will change anyone's mind.
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Tropic_Sunset
08/29/17 12:33:44 PM
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Currant_Kaiser posted...
InfestedAdam posted...
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Not the time dude.

InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.

Metal_Gear_Link posted...
InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.


Isn't climate change awareness a way for people to not lose their homes in the first place?


This. Seems appropriate to me.


Are you suggesting that combative measures would certainly ensure that this hurricane wouldn't have happened? If so, you may need to review the science yourself.

And for what it's worth, this hurricane should absolutely not change anyone's mind about climate change. If you didn't believe in it in the first place, then a natural disaster should not be taken as evidence that you were wrong. I could make the same argument about a wrathful god sending the hurricane because people in Texas were wrong about religion and I'd rightly be called out as a moron. Stop begging the question. Reasoning like this does absolutely nothing to help combat climate change.
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InfernalFive
08/29/17 1:05:16 PM
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How the hell is "climate change awareness" supposed to stop a hurricane from happening?
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Tropic_Sunset
08/29/17 1:07:15 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
How the hell is "climate change awareness" supposed to stop a hurricane from happening?

The hurricane would probably be intimidated by our vast pseudo-intellect.
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Blightzkrieg
08/29/17 1:09:50 PM
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Tropic_Sunset posted...
InfernalFive posted...
How the hell is "climate change awareness" supposed to stop a hurricane from happening?

The hurricane would probably be intimidated by our vast pseudo-intellect.

If we educate the hurricane about how the burdens of climate change fall disproportionately on developing countries, it would fuck off and go screw with some African place nobody's ever heard of.
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PaddysPub
08/29/17 1:14:09 PM
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no, but lol @ all the people getting butthurt, acting like it's offensive to ask a question
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Tropic_Sunset
08/29/17 1:18:13 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Tropic_Sunset posted...
InfernalFive posted...
How the hell is "climate change awareness" supposed to stop a hurricane from happening?

The hurricane would probably be intimidated by our vast pseudo-intellect.

If we educate the hurricane about how the burdens of climate change fall disproportionately on developing countries, it would fuck off and go screw with some African place nobody's ever heard of.

Exactly.
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darkknight109
08/30/17 1:37:29 AM
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No, but nor should it, and that is true regardless of whether you acknowledge man-made climate change is real or not.

I always get annoyed with people who take this attitude, even ignoring how tacky it is ("Hah, sucks to be you! If you'd just believed in climate change, your house and all your possessions would still be around!"), because it has absolutely no basis in science. Saying any one event is attributable to climate change is absurd, because the science simply isn't that precise. For all we know, this one particular storm could have been worse in a world without anthropogenic climate change.

You can't attribute individual events to climate change; you can only note trends. Harvey is one data-point on the graph, not a trendline in and of itself.
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Yellow
08/30/17 1:42:52 AM
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If this is a direct result of climate change, I'd say they should change their minds about climate change.

NOT THE TIME BRO

POLITICS

#PrayForHarvey
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Veedrock-
08/30/17 1:51:00 AM
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You can't stop a fucking hurricane.
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Yellow
08/30/17 1:54:34 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
You can't stop a fucking hurricane.

jntbr4p
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ClarkDuke
08/30/17 2:00:09 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
You can't stop a fucking hurricane.

We need Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck to bore into the hurricanes eye and detonate a nuclear device, ok?
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RIP_Supa
08/30/17 2:01:13 AM
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How do you make Texans rethink anything?
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Syntheticon
08/30/17 2:02:03 AM
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Currant_Kaiser posted...
InfestedAdam posted...
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Not the time dude.

InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.

Metal_Gear_Link posted...
InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.


Isn't climate change awareness a way for people to not lose their homes in the first place?


This. Seems appropriate to me.

Perhaps, but it'll still be the same issue in a week or a month...I don't get the impression the TC was trying to slight their problems, just to get a perspective on if their ideas might shift a little now that it's 'in their backyard' so to speak. If they meant to be a tool then by all means, have at it.
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RIP_Supa
08/30/17 2:09:47 AM
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so the effects of weather are getting noticeably worse as the years pass on... ok

this is what you're referring to as climate change? i mean it sounds pretty normal
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EightySeven
08/30/17 2:29:55 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Not the time dude.


He could have phrased it better, but events like this are absolutely 100% the time to talk about climate change.
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RIP_Supa
08/30/17 2:36:11 AM
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EightySeven posted...
He could have phrased it better, but events like this are absolutely 100% the time to talk about climate change.

So tell me about it, you guys aren't doing much of a job at making me rethink this or anything.

How am I supposed to think about it? How am I supposed to think? How am I? H...

what is climate change
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EightySeven
08/30/17 2:39:34 AM
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RIP_Supa posted...
So tell me about it, you guys aren't doing much of a job at making me rethink this or anything.

How am I supposed to think about it? How am I supposed to think? How am I? H...

what is climate change


Here you go, buddy. Start with this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/08/29/hurricane-harvey-and-the-inevitable-question-of-climate-change/

For further reading Google Search: Climate change extreme weather events
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BlackScythe0
08/30/17 2:41:51 AM
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"It's just some rain bro, you never seen rain before?"
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RIP_Supa
08/30/17 2:52:40 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/

-shudders-

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Well, I guess it makes sense now.
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EightySeven
08/30/17 3:25:48 AM
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RIP_Supa posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/

-shudders-



https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

I also noticed you didn't comment on Google searching the subject where I'm sure you couldn't have found plenty of sources that you aren't biased against. I wonder why that is.

RIP_Supa posted...
Well, I guess it makes sense now.

I'm using ublock origin and didn't see this message. I would suggest you install that.
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Yellow
08/30/17 3:36:49 AM
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BlackScythe0
08/30/17 3:39:08 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
EightySeven posted...
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Not the time dude.


He could have phrased it better, but events like this are absolutely 100% the time to talk about climate change.

No. No it isn't.


Because to you there is never a time to.
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Yellow
08/30/17 3:44:11 AM
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Btw I'm mostly kidding, I fucking hate Hillary Clinton.

She didn't think global warming was a conspiracy from the Chinese at least though
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usui88
08/30/17 3:49:28 AM
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No Ann Coulter cracked that shit wide open

Harvey wasn't caused by climate change it was because Houston elected that lesbian mayor

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ann-coulter-hurricane-harvey_us_59a59bc2e4b084581a139315
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BlackScythe0
08/30/17 3:50:50 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
PyroBlade1985 posted...
EightySeven posted...
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Not the time dude.


He could have phrased it better, but events like this are absolutely 100% the time to talk about climate change.

No. No it isn't.


Because to you there is never a time to.

How about you wait till Houston is no longer underwater to stroke your ego?


Ego? What?
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aHappySacka
08/30/17 3:51:23 AM
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If anything they'll blame minorities and gays for causing it.
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RIP_Supa
08/30/17 5:00:06 AM
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EightySeven posted...
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shuddering
1. To shiver convulsively, as from fear or revulsion.

http://www.wordnik.com/words/revulsed
adj. Affected with or having experienced revulsion.

and here we have

ad hominem

You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

There was no logical fallacy involved in my emotional reaction to your source of information, as I was not even able to review the information contained therein. This was not in an attempt to undermine your argument, attack your character, or personal traits, as I'm trying to learn something here. It was merely a knee-jerk reaction to your linking of a source that is known to present unreliable information to the general public, instead of just doing it yourself.

EightySeven posted...
I also noticed you didn't comment on Google searching the subject where I'm sure you couldn't have found plenty of sources that you aren't biased against. I wonder why that is.

That's because I didn't Google it. I also noticed that you didn't actually try to explain what climate change even is in your own words, gave me a link to a website that doesn't even work properly, and basically just told me to look it up myself, whilst assuming I had an inherent bias against the idea of climate change. I wonder why that is.

(it seems to be the result of you making the assumption that I may be stupider than I actually am, which I must note that I find insulting, my good sir)

EightySeven posted...
I'm using ublock origin and didn't see this message. I would suggest you install that.

I'm using Opera, which happens to have a built in ad blocker, which confuses me as to why I would need to install an ad blocker that happens to be supported for Opera, which has a built in ad blocker.

My point being, somebody make one already, geez.
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TheCyborgNinja
08/30/17 9:28:57 AM
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It's too subtle. Nothing short of God yelling it at everyone would make it universally accepted. Even then maybe not.
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gguirao
09/03/17 1:32:42 PM
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Sadly, no.
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Questionmarktarius
09/03/17 1:34:39 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Apparently it happened 1000 years ago? So it's probably more evidence that things are cyclical.

A hundred years ago (and some change):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane
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Mead
09/03/17 2:27:46 PM
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Climate change is something everyone should worry about even if they don't think humans are influencing the climate

When things change it is important to adapt
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Questionmarktarius
09/03/17 2:34:37 PM
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Mead posted...
When things change it is important to adapt

And that's where the effort should be concentrated. Not in meaningless platitudes of reversal.
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TheCyborgNinja
09/03/17 2:39:02 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
People are losing their homes, try to grow up.

Yeah, no kidding. Who cares why it is happening or about preventing future catastrophes. Let's just not concern ourselves with important matters like that...

Do you even think before you post?
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Questionmarktarius
09/03/17 2:44:32 PM
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Apply a simple "geico rule" to these sort of things:

If inserting "I just saved 15% on my car insurance by switching to GEICO" would be awkward for the conversation, anything else is likely to be awkward also.
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