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CountessRolab
08/20/17 11:48:53 PM
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The infrastructure, the education system, cleanliness of cities, and just the demeanor of the people in general. It is like a very respectful, well-oiled machine. The opposite of the gun-toting, rioting populace that you have in America.
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TheDarkCircle
08/20/17 11:49:39 PM
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this is a lame gimmick bro
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CountessRolab
08/20/17 11:51:02 PM
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Only downsides I have seen are their attitudes towards women's and LGBT rights.


TheDarkCircle posted...
this is a lame gimmick bro


One post makes it a gimmick? lol your gimmick is lame, bro.
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cuteandkawaii
08/20/17 11:52:07 PM
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he keeps doing it. I put him on ignore and I never do that.
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Doe
08/20/17 11:52:23 PM
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Window_Starer
08/20/17 11:54:12 PM
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The fact they prioritize work over health is NOT GOOD

I'm feeling a strong 7, weak 6 on the country. TRANS-
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cuteandkawaii
08/20/17 11:54:24 PM
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Doe posted...
japan has a lot of issues

USA actually has the biggest issue of them all. The one Japan is specifically noted for being against.

And I'm latino-American. But this whole thing isn't working out.
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CADE FOSTER
08/20/17 11:55:24 PM
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ShinigamiSoul
08/20/17 11:56:31 PM
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Don't they have high suicide rates and low birth rates?
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Jabodie
08/20/17 11:58:11 PM
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cuteandkawaii posted...

USA actually has the biggest issue of them all. The one Japan is specifically noted for being against.

And I'm latino-American. But this whole thing isn't working out.

I can't tell if you're talking about immigration or guns.
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cuteandkawaii
08/20/17 11:59:38 PM
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Jabodie posted...
cuteandkawaii posted...

USA actually has the biggest issue of them all. The one Japan is specifically noted for being against.

And I'm latino-American. But this whole thing isn't working out.

I can't tell if you're talking about immigration or guns.

A working country needs social cohesion. There is a reason why Africa will never take off. But you think this reason is good in the US, Europe etc.
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Xelltrix
08/20/17 11:59:48 PM
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Yeah, those climbing suicide rates and falling population rates are on point. And could always do with more xenophobia.
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Offworlder1
08/21/17 12:00:02 AM
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Ok weeboo.
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:00:41 AM
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Xelltrix posted...
Yeah, those climbing suicide rates and falling population rates are on point. And could always do with more xenophobia.

We literally have Trump. Japan is far more equipped to deal with retirement and automation, assuming they aren't nuked by NK.
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justaguy3492
08/21/17 12:01:07 AM
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Working 16 hour days days a week is pretty lame though. I'll just enjoy America.
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Back_Stabbath
08/21/17 12:02:15 AM
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Go live there then. I'm sure the Japanese would love you.
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Nightmare_Luna
08/21/17 12:03:18 AM
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Xelltrix posted...
Yeah, those climbing suicide rates and falling population rates are on point. And could always do with more xenophobia.

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tennisdude818
08/21/17 12:04:43 AM
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They have different problems from us. They are probably the most Keynesian country in the world, so naturally they've been in a 20+ year economic slump. They are dealing with an aging population, but they aren't making the problem worse like Germany and Sweden by importing as many culturally incompatible people as possible who use a lot of welfare and fill up prisons.

They promised too many entitlements, so the yen will collapse and Japan will move on.
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WaterLink
08/21/17 12:05:34 AM
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It's really only good if you're an actual Japanese person. Preferably male. Have probably the worst alcoholism and suicide rates in developed countries, and while the education system is probably better, the working environment seems to be factory like and stripping the humanity out of them, which kind of contributes to the low birth rate, especially since women who want a career basically can't have kids or else their career is over. Plus xenophobic and purist as fuck like I alluded to earlier. Good luck being a white dude trying to move in and settle with the locals there like you belong.

There's some advantages and disadvantages. It's not some mysterious utopia
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:06:52 AM
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Like what we are seeing with BLM, Trump, antifa is just the result. Multi-ethnic societies usually don't work. Only Canada, Australia will really work out, because they don't just let any immigrants in
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Jabodie
08/21/17 12:08:31 AM
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cuteandkawaii posted...
Like what we are seeing with BLM, Trump, antifa is just the result. Multi-ethnic societies usually don't work. Only Canada, Australia will really work out, because they don't just let any immigrants in

Well, it didn't work out to well for the Aboriginals.
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:10:08 AM
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Jabodie posted...
Well, it didn't work out to well for the Aboriginals.

IIRC its working out for Chinese immigrants pretty well.
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tennisdude818
08/21/17 12:10:16 AM
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cuteandkawaii posted...
Like what we are seeing with BLM, Trump, antifa is just the result. Multi-ethnic societies usually don't work. Only Canada, Australia will really work out, because they don't just let any immigrants in


It sounds like singapore does ok, but it's tiny. As far as I know they don't have a Singaporean version of our pop culture and academia attitude of "fuck white people" so that may keep tensions lower.
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:12:04 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
It sounds like singapore does ok, but it's tiny. As far as I know they don't have a Singaporean version of our pop culture and academia attitude of "f*** white people" so that may keep tensions lower.

Singapore is a city though.

America is a giant ass country with different regions, cultures, etc.

Hell, going from any random rural town, to NYC, you might as well be in a different country.

America isn't getting out of this in one piece.
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:14:55 AM
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Let's prove my point:

All of Latin America? Fairly poor and multi-ethnic
All of Africa? LOLOLOL the most diverse continent with "artificial borders" hell on earth.
East Asia? Mostly fine or rising with the exception of NK. But that's more communism and authoritarianism.
Western Europe? was doing fine, won't do fine at this rate.
Eastern Europe? Marred by communism.
SE Asia? Not homogeneous, not fine.

So communism and multiculturism is what destroys countries
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Jabodie
08/21/17 12:19:20 AM
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cuteandkawaii posted...
IIRC its working out for Chinese immigrants pretty well.

There are some tensions rising when it comes to Chinese students at University.

As China continues to expand their influence in the region with money, don't be surprised if you see anti Chinese sentiments start rising in the next couple decades.
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:21:00 AM
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Jabodie posted...
cuteandkawaii posted...
IIRC its working out for Chinese immigrants pretty well.

There are some tensions rising when it comes to Chinese students at University.

As China continues to expand their influence in the region with money, don't be surprised if you see anti Chinese sentiments start rising in the next couple decades.

well then proves my point. A whole country cannot be multi-ethnic and truly successful.
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tennisdude818
08/21/17 12:21:43 AM
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cuteandkawaii posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
It sounds like singapore does ok, but it's tiny. As far as I know they don't have a Singaporean version of our pop culture and academia attitude of "f*** white people" so that may keep tensions lower.

Singapore is a city though.

America is a giant ass country with different regions, cultures, etc.

Hell, going from any random rural town, to NYC, you might as well be in a different country.

America isn't getting out of this in one piece.


Yeah the US will probably split up eventually.
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Xelltrix
08/21/17 12:26:58 AM
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Wow, I cannot believe the conversation going on in this topic right now...
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:28:38 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
cuteandkawaii posted...
Jabodie posted...
cuteandkawaii posted...
IIRC its working out for Chinese immigrants pretty well.

There are some tensions rising when it comes to Chinese students at University.

As China continues to expand their influence in the region with money, don't be surprised if you see anti Chinese sentiments start rising in the next couple decades.

well then proves my point. A whole country cannot be multi-ethnic and truly successful.


Isn't your gimmick about how much you want to screw different ethnic women?

How are you gonna accomplish that if you're not in a multi-ethnic society?

I want US to be multi-ethnic. I'm not white. I'm Chilean. But let's be real. This shits not working out. It never has, and it maybe never will.
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YookaLaylee
08/21/17 12:32:14 AM
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CountessRolab posted...
The infrastructure, the education system, cleanliness of cities, and just the demeanor of the people in general. It is like a very respectful, well-oiled machine. The opposite of the gun-toting, rioting populace that you have in America.

Spoken like a true weaboob
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:32:59 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
nd every ethnicity should stay in their own countries. CE sure brings out the weird ones.

This is why nobody can have an honest conversation anymore. I never fucking said that.

Just give up if you are going to put words in my mouth.
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 12:35:52 AM
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It seems like a pretty cool place, but it has it's problems just like anywhere else. People are overworked, suicide rates are high especially among youth, their is a strong culture of xenophobia and racism, and their attitudes towards women and LGBT are pretty backwards as well. I'm not saying it's a bad place, but I'm saying every place has its issues and you can't really say any place is superior discounting places that are on the other extreme end of the scale (such as war-torn countries with genocide, famine, and no infrastructure).
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:38:02 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
It's the logical conclusion of what you're saying when you say a "multi-ethnic society doesn't work." OK, if it doesn't work, then what?

A homogeneous society with mild amounts of nationalism. Sorry, but America isn't working. Trump is proof of that.

Brexit is proof. I don't like Brexit or Trump either, but America's diversity is easily its greatest weakness.

At a base level, people are too tribalistic to get along.
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tennisdude818
08/21/17 12:40:40 AM
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cuteandkawaii posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
cuteandkawaii posted...
Jabodie posted...
cuteandkawaii posted...
IIRC its working out for Chinese immigrants pretty well.

There are some tensions rising when it comes to Chinese students at University.

As China continues to expand their influence in the region with money, don't be surprised if you see anti Chinese sentiments start rising in the next couple decades.

well then proves my point. A whole country cannot be multi-ethnic and truly successful.


Isn't your gimmick about how much you want to screw different ethnic women?

How are you gonna accomplish that if you're not in a multi-ethnic society?

I want US to be multi-ethnic. I'm not white. I'm Chilean. But let's be real. This shits not working out. It never has, and it maybe never will.


I think it could work with no welfare state and if all groups are held to the same anti-racist standards (that's my perception of Singapore btw, but maybe I'm wrong about them). But the version of multiculturalism in West today is just leftist politicians changing demographics to get more votes and virtue signal. "Come over and vote for me, I'll even make my political opponents pay your bills."
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:44:18 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
So you are implying ethnicities should stay in their own countries.

God fuck no. You are finding what you want to find. I want the US to be open to immigrants. I was given the opportunity. I can't deny it to others, but its not going to fucking work out in the end.

ImAMarvel posted...

People who say this s*** don't realize how successful the USA is as a country. Only a handful of nations in the world are doing better than us at certain things. Flaws and issues aside, we're a pretty strong, healthy country.

How can America's diversity be its greatest weakness considering every innovation we've made in culture?

We are seeing the effects of it right now. The white identity died decades ago, and we are starting to see it come back again.

White people are in effect, starting to wonder if this shits working out. That's why they voted for Trump.
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 12:45:29 AM
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cuteandkawaii posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
It's the logical conclusion of what you're saying when you say a "multi-ethnic society doesn't work." OK, if it doesn't work, then what?

A homogeneous society with mild amounts of nationalism. Sorry, but America isn't working. Trump is proof of that.

Brexit is proof. I don't like Brexit or Trump either, but America's diversity is easily its greatest weakness.

At a base level, people are too tribalistic to get along.


Brexit isn't prove of shit because Britain itself is multi-cultural. This 'tribalistic' thing is bullshit. No one is born with a cultural identity. Even if you argue that it is ingrained in society, you are going to have a helluva time trying to nail down what exactly each culture is.

Let's take the British, for example. Okay, so first they were Celts who split off from the continental Celts and traveled to the British Isles in prehistoric times. Then, much later, those groups split (Picts, for example) into many different groups. Then you had the Romans show up and mix with them. Then you have the invasion of the Angles, the Saxons, and the Jutes (themselves three different 'tribes'). Then you have the invasion of the Danes, and the Danelaw. After that, you have the conquest of William the Bastard/Conqueror, who himself was from Normandy (and thus, French) and according to legend, descended from a Scandinavian (Rollo). Then you have the conquest of Ireland and Scotland, re-introducing those 'tribes'. Then you have the import of people from the various colonies (Canadians, Indians, Africans, Chinese, etc) all of which have a claim to being 'British' after several generations. So, what defines the British 'tribe', again?

To summarize, Britain is multi-cultural, and 'tribes' are not inherent ally to tribal to get along, because most of the current 'tribes' are actually mixes of tens, if not hundreds, of different cultures that amalgamated over time. There is no such thing as a 'pure' culture, and multiculturalism has been working longer than whatever the hell you are advocating.
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cuteandkawaii
08/21/17 12:49:33 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...

Brexit isn't prove of s*** because Britain itself is multi-cultural. This 'tribalistic' thing is bulls***. No one is born with a cultural identity. Even if you argue that it is ingrained in society, you are going to have a helluva time trying to nail down what exactly each culture is.

Let's take the British, for example. Okay, so first they were Celts who split off from the continental Celts and traveled to the British Isles in prehistoric times. Then, much later, those groups split (Picts, for example) into many different groups. Then you had the Romans show up and mix with them. Then you have the invasion of the Angles, the Saxons, and the Jutes (themselves three different 'tribes'). Then you have the invasion of the Danes, and the Danelaw. After that, you have the conquest of William the Bastard/Conqueror, who himself was from Normandy (and thus, French) and according to legend, descended from a Scandinavian (Rollo). Then you have the conquest of Ireland and Scotland, re-introducing those 'tribes'. Then you have the import of people from the various colonies (Canadians, Indians, Africans, Chinese, etc) all of which have a claim to being 'British' after several generations. So, what defines the British 'tribe', again?

To summarize, Britain is multi-cultural, and 'tribes' are not inherent ally to tribal to get along, because most of the current 'tribes' are actually mixes of tens, if not hundreds, of different cultures that amalgamated over time. There is no such thing as a 'pure' culture, and multiculturalism has been working longer than whatever the hell you are advocating.

A lot of that shit took hundreds of years to happen, and I know even within the UK, there is a ton of tribalism among different white groups. Scotland voted to stay...
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