Board 8 > Survivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 3: Cult of no personality

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eaedwards6400 posted...

The problems with TEOS commentary on 22, 23, and 24 is you can kind of feel Rob and Josh's pain on doing a rewatch lol

I have only listened to half of TEOS. I'm doing a rewatch with my dad slowly but surely and we're on Micronesia now. I listen to TEOS starting sometime after the merge to get the commentary alongside what I've been watching. It's worked pretty well, even if it means, you know, not experiencing it all until later.

eaedwards6400 posted...

I will still argue that South Pacific was better. That premerge often had me coming back for more but the second Cochran flips I'm over it.

I've never liked South Pacific. At all. Not only did I have zero rooting interests for anyone (except Miki, but that was only because I felt bad for her), the religious undertones and Brandon's stalkerish behaviors did not sit right with me in the slightest. I honestly cannot think of a single positive about that excruciating season, except for them having a few more challenges that weren't the boring "obstacle course + puzzle" stuff - but that's not something that helps my enjoyment very much. I have no real fond memories of the season and will probably skip rewatching it.
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Man, it's a Thursday night at the final 9 of a BB season and... nothing. I feel nothing. :\
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HoH update spoilers: Matt & Kevin have fallen.
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HoH update: Josh is down
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And now... it's down to Jason and Alex.
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New HoH: ...Jason...
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If Paul wins this season, how high up would you guys rank him amongst the winners as far as strategic acumen goes?

Because my ranking goes:
1. Dan
2. Will
3. Derrick

And I think I'd have Paul at #4.
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I'd put Paul right alongside Jordan, Rachel, and Dick in terms of getting rigged to victory.
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Well I can only assume Matt will be the target then. I would love for him to win veto and have Raven sent packing. I feel like Alex would rather have Josh or Christmas as a back up target over Raven, though. She was really put off by Christmas picking Raven for veto. But I haven't been paying attention to the feeds for the past few days so I don't know if any new developments happened.
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Inviso posted...

I'd put Paul right alongside Jordan, Rachel, and Dick in terms of getting rigged to victory.

this but I'd put him above them because his rigging was more subtle and wasn't a case where they would've been evicted outright had there not been rigging.
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@ Inviso

Have you even seen BB8? >->

Regardless, that wasn't the question. All three of those winners are far inferior to Paul in terms of strategy.
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Squirrelgate posted...

Inviso posted...

I'd put Paul right alongside Jordan, Rachel, and Dick in terms of getting rigged to victory.

this but I'd put him above them because his rigging was more subtle and wasn't a case where they would've been evicted outright had there not been rigging.

I'd put him above them as well, because admittedly, his gameplay is solid. It's just that he's able to do the shit he's doing because no one would ever consider targeting him due to his veteran status.
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you guys
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i like the love and bickering between you two
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Inviso posted...

I'd put Paul right alongside Jordan, Rachel, and Dick in terms of getting rigged to victory.

These members of the cast have kind of proved that Paul wouldn't have gone in those first 3 weeks anyways.



Peridiam posted...

If Paul wins this season, how high up would you guys rank him amongst the winners as far as strategic acumen goes?

Because my ranking goes:
1. Dan
2. Will
3. Derrick

And I think I'd have Paul at #4.

I haven't seen those seasons but it is my understanding that Paul is solidly in forth because it is sloppy but I have heard the other three rotated depending on who you ask.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

These members of the cast have kind of proved that Paul wouldn't have gone in those first 3 weeks anyways.

Yeah, but you also have to wonder how much Week 1 loyalty would they have shown him if production hadn't given Paul friendship bracelets to give to half the house on the first night.
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I kinda believe Paul would've gone in the first week if not for the immunity, but then I also think 'oh well'. He's been really strong this whole season as far as strategic thinking and moving with a purpose goes. I'm honestly impressed. It's put a spell on everyone. It's almost like Dan's mist (though definitely not as good, hence #4).
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I do agree that it's possible they would've been more forgiving of Cody if it had only been Paul he betrayed. Though I'm still not sure Cody would've had a strong enough social game to do so while Paul would've been actively trying to turn them against him.
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I also think there's no way Paul could crack the top 3 even if he plays it perfectly until the end just cause this is his second try, and yeah, being a veteran (especially the only one) is a huge boon. The top 3 won on their first go.

I also think Paul losing in the F2 on his first season is kinda not great either.
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He's definitely handling jury much better this time by getting other people to do his dirty work for him. But that could bite him in the ass if it ends up making it seem like he actually didn't do much compared to whoever he's sitting against.
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The only people that might be bitter is Alex, Jason, and Kevin.
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I expect Raven to be super bitter if he directly gets her out. The whole game she's been telling Matt that Paul will protect them because she knew him before the game.
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I always expect everyone's exit speech when they get evicted to be: "If the vet is in final 2, I give them 500k."


Christmas
Josh
Kevin
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Jason
Matt
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Alex
Raven
Paul
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What is it that you like so much about Christmas?

just curious
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Peridiam posted...

What is it that you like so much about Christmas?

just curious

I mean... That zingbot song was pretty awesome, so she contributed that to the season... >_>
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@Peridiam What were your week one predictions again? I remember you had Dominique/Mark ranked high, but I don't remember what your actual predictions were.
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Yeah, I think he had them both pegged for F4.
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Dominique/Christmas/Kevin/Mark
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Well Christmas will probably make it.
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Peridiam posted...

What is it that you like so much about Christmas?

Presents, snow, ham dinner....



...no seriously, she's not obnoxious, she's playing a respectable game given her inability to compete. I think of all the pairs, she has the best head on her shoulders. Plus there's the fact that she's hot as hell... but I find tight abs to be sexy on a woman.
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She has this "my shit doesn't stink" attitude about her that I find irritating. Also her condemnation and attacks on Cody's military service were unnecessary. Bottom-tier behavior. Completely unentertaining indecency.
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The edited show has been kinder to Christmas than she really deserves.
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mnkbear907 posted...

The edited show has been kinder to Christmas than she really deserves.

Yeah, I don't watch the feeds. Chances are I could nitpick something about everyone if I watched the feeds as most people have idiosyncrasies that tend to start to get annoying after a while.

In all honesty, in Survivor or Big Brother, anyone who's behavior, attitude, and background really "deserves" the money is usually kicked out of the game early anyways, so it becomes more of a matter of who's the least irksome of the people remaining.


At this point though, it doesn't seem like you have anyone you even care about, so if you had to pick a winner, who would be your best of the worst?
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it wont happen, but I'd love to see a Raven win now, just curious about how people would react
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BakusaiTenketsu posted...

mnkbear907 posted...

The edited show has been kinder to Christmas than she really deserves.

Chances are I could nitpick something about everyone if I watched the feeds as most people have idiosyncrasies that tend to start to get annoying after a while.

You need to note that there's a difference between what we're nitpicking. In the case of Christmas, it's a lot of ugly behavior. It's a lot of indecency. It's just really not good, and I'm not surprised Joker's has her at third-to-last in their rankings, only ahead of Matt and Raven.

While you can nitpick anyones personality if you watch them long enough, in the case of half of BB19, it doesn't take long to realize why a lot of these people kinda need to be sat down and read the riot act.
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BakusaiTenketsu posted...

mnkbear907 posted...

The edited show has been kinder to Christmas than she really deserves.

Yeah, I don't watch the feeds. Chances are I could nitpick something about everyone if I watched the feeds as most people have idiosyncrasies that tend to start to get annoying after a while.

In all honesty, in Survivor or Big Brother, anyone who's behavior, attitude, and background really "deserves" the money is usually kicked out of the game early anyways, so it becomes more of a matter of who's the least irksome of the people remaining.


At this point though, it doesn't seem like you have anyone you even care about, so if you had to pick a winner, who would be your best of the worst?

I'd be happy with Jason, okay with Kevin or Josh, and if Matt would actually start doing things, I'd be fine with him too. Paul and Alex would be deserving enough, though still frustrating for personal reasons.
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Survivor AU 2 (4) Episode 8 Spoilers

Wow, I think that was a brilliant way to troll the fuck out of whatever majority there may have been at the end. Brilliant episode, this season keeps delivering in every way

honestly if any of you aren't watching this season and you're survivor fans you're doing yourself a massive disservice
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does it spoil the first season at all

do i need to watch the first one first?
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Peridiam posted...

does it spoil the first season at all

do i need to watch the first one first?

I think it may mention who won the previous season and show a few highlights in a short recap at the start of the first episode, but I would have to rewatch that to know for sure. May have just been season previews that I saw and I am remembering.

You can watch just this season if you want, this one is better than the last one (so far), but both are good - I would say either season is better than most of the last 10-15 US seasons.
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Ringworm posted...

Peridiam posted...

does it spoil the first season at all

do i need to watch the first one first?

I think it may mention who won the previous season and show a few highlights in a short recap at the start of the first episode, but I would have to rewatch that to know for sure. May have just been season previews that I saw and I am remembering.

You can watch just this season if you want, this one is better than the last one (so far), but both are good - I would say either season is better than most of the last 10-15 US seasons.

It spoils who wins the final immunity challenge if you are paying attention, but the whole sequence can be skipped over once it starts (iirc it takes at least like 20 seconds to get to that point)
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Ringworm posted...

Peridiam posted...

does it spoil the first season at all

do i need to watch the first one first?

I think it may mention who won the previous season and show a few highlights in a short recap at the start of the first episode, but I would have to rewatch that to know for sure. May have just been season previews that I saw and I am remembering.

You can watch just this season if you want, this one is better than the last one (so far), but both are good - I would say either season is better than most of the last 10-15 US seasons.

It spoils who wins the final immunity challenge if you are paying attention, but the whole sequence can be skipped over once it starts (iirc it takes at least like 20 seconds to get to that point)

this is correct

i just went to check

the first 24 seconds are filler, then it's potential spoilers until 1:10

i would skip to 1:25 just to be safe
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Good guy Jason, denying the Pauls of the world what they want. He won veto and the entire house wants him to take Raven down and put Kevin up, and he's just like nope.jpg
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I hope that holds.
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Man, fuck off Raven.
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Seriously, fuck off Raven and Matt.
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Fuck offffffffffffffff Raven.
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"inverted spine" she probably means horizontally inverted, not upside down

"lightning proof" apparently only like 10% of direct lightning strikes are fatal. I read about some park ranger dude who has been struck 7 times and is still alive.

"training for olympics" running a mile in 5:50 is hardly extraordinary. It's pretty mundane in fact, among people who actually try to do that shit. I never could and I would never want to or care about it, but it's not that significant of a feat, AR state record or otherwise.

Fuck Raven? Sure enough. She's not even looking that horrible in this episode but fuck her from previous shit she's said and done. More importantly?... fuck Paul too though for exaggerating like an asshole.

Also, fuck Alex even more for saying "Jason and I's plan..." like seriously. I was better at speaking when I was like 15 months old probably.
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5:50 is extraordinary, her mom has the record!
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I mostly hate Raven for the constant whining and attention-whoring even PRIOR to her "compulsive liar" segment. Also, when Jason was saying Kevin used his wrist surgeries as an excuse for losing, and Raven promptly reminded them that she has a pacemaker to excuse the fact that she has LITERALLY done jack shit all season.
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