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gafemaqs
08/08/17 7:24:24 AM
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I know there's really only so far you can take that character, but he's generally less insightful in his newer videos (which is where some of the truly funny things are unearthed). He's also become significantly less angry.
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Kirby
08/08/17 7:33:29 AM
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He had a good run, I don't think YouTube famous people can sustain for too long without collapsing. The Power Glove and TMNT1 are amazing and some of my favorite videos on YouTube period.
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ArchiePeck
08/08/17 7:40:11 AM
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Yeah for a one dimensional character to have had a run of around ten years of good videos was quite the achievement. He's made life changing amounts of money from it and got to fulfill his lifetime goal of making a full length movie. Good on him!
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MrResetti
08/08/17 7:41:38 AM
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Slayerblade11
08/08/17 7:42:51 AM
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The ape review was really good though.

At least he didn't do a Spoony or Jontron
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Doom_Art
08/08/17 7:52:17 AM
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I haven't seen him since I was in HS

That was about 8 years ago
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Thugstar
08/08/17 7:54:05 AM
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Ironic how a shitty games/movies critic makes a shitty movie himself.
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blablablax17
08/08/17 8:34:05 AM
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Thugstar posted...
Ironic how a shitty games/movies critic makes a shitty movie himself.


It was supposed to be a B-Movie. He's into that stuff.
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StickFigures720
08/08/17 10:42:03 AM
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Conflict posted...
gafemaqs posted...
He's also become significantly less angry.


I don't see how this is an issue

As he got older the whole gimmick kinda started to lose its luster

He was called the "Angry" Video Game Nerd for a reason.
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Damn_Underscore
08/08/17 10:46:08 AM
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The appeal of AVGN now is James and Mike Mondays and videos like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WzkdlNYz0Q


Too bad Bootsy left tho
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Go_Totodile
08/08/17 10:48:01 AM
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I remember when he was the ninth most subbed on YouTube. Holy shit how times have changed.
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DK9292
08/08/17 10:53:59 AM
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Go_Totodile posted...
I remember when he was the ninth most subbed on YouTube. Holy shit how times have changed.

Fred was once the first most subbed on YouTube.

Change is good.
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Go_Totodile
08/08/17 10:55:25 AM
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DK9292 posted...
Go_Totodile posted...
I remember when he was the ninth most subbed on YouTube. Holy shit how times have changed.

Fred was once the first most subbed on YouTube.

Change is good.

Very good point. I still cannot fathom how he got so popular.
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Vol2tex
08/08/17 11:31:40 AM
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The production values are better but worse, if that makes sense?
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Go_Totodile
08/08/17 11:32:44 AM
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Vol2tex posted...
The production values are better but worse, if that makes sense?

I think maybe I understand where you're coming from. A lot of the charm was just from how simple and cheesy it was back in the day.
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Vol2tex
08/08/17 11:34:27 AM
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Go_Totodile posted...
Vol2tex posted...
The production values are better but worse, if that makes sense?

I think maybe I understand where you're coming from. A lot of the charm was just from how simple and cheesy it was back in the day.


Exactly, it seems overproduced nowadays in a sense.
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CmndrHurricane
08/08/17 11:36:03 AM
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"AVGN really fell off a cliff."

expected really falling of a cliff. you lied to me
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Go_Totodile
08/08/17 11:38:58 AM
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Vol2tex posted...
Go_Totodile posted...
Vol2tex posted...
The production values are better but worse, if that makes sense?

I think maybe I understand where you're coming from. A lot of the charm was just from how simple and cheesy it was back in the day.


Exactly, it seems overproduced nowadays in a sense.

Yeah it really changed after the movie. I suppose he had a lot of fancy new equipment to use.
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Vol2tex
08/08/17 4:46:05 PM
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I wonder if he'll stop doing AVGN completely.
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kuwab0
08/08/17 4:49:40 PM
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I wish that fat fuck Ryan would leave and Bootsy come back
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darkphoenix181
08/08/17 4:52:09 PM
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the feigned upset looking for issues to talk about in a video video game nerd
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Balrog0
08/08/17 4:54:23 PM
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man I remember when he was sort of unique, before LPs became super huge
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Balrog0
08/08/17 4:55:51 PM
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also

remember the irate gamer?
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LordMarshal
08/08/17 4:58:17 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
also

remember the irate gamer?


He made a video explaining what went down and he seemed very normal and down to earth in it.
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Balrog0
08/08/17 5:02:02 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
He made a video explaining what went down and he seemed very normal and down to earth in it.


lol srsly?
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TheVipaGTS
08/08/17 5:03:47 PM
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its weird how he's making it even more obvious that he's acting now...like when he starts to get upset and goes on one of his typical rants his voice changes and its obvious he's reading a script. It was nothing like that in the older episodes...it actually seemed a little more genuine.
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Apocalyptic
08/08/17 5:04:34 PM
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Is it true that Mike is a sociopath?
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electricbugs2
08/08/17 5:07:57 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
lol srsly?

Yeah the IG admitted he was an ass, but turns out James was also kind of a dick even after the IG started doing his own thing.

As for AVGN, he made a video a while ago saying AVGN is harder to make now because his daughter can't hear him swearing like a trucker.
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LordMarshal
08/08/17 5:10:28 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
LordMarshal posted...
He made a video explaining what went down and he seemed very normal and down to earth in it.


lol srsly?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYnM9hexHdA

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The Wheelman1
08/08/17 5:12:31 PM
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At first I thought he actually fell off a cliff.
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Vol2tex
08/08/17 5:20:08 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
its weird how he's making it even more obvious that he's acting now...like when he starts to get upset and goes on one of his typical rants his voice changes and its obvious he's reading a script. It was nothing like that in the older episodes...it actually seemed a little more genuine.


That's another point I meant by my post, his earlier videos felt more natural but now it feels like he is acting.
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UnfairRepresent
08/09/17 12:49:47 PM
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Dude has been doing his thing for what? 13 years?

His goal was to make a movie (even predating AVGN) he did that and now is happily married.

I'd say AVGN did it's purpose and he is happy. Not so much fell of a cliff.

Remember AVGN was just one thing James Rolfe did and it was the one thing that took off. That's a big success in my book.

I mean check out this video from 2002: specifically from 3:55 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XacN05uJY00


The guy achieved his dream, even if not by the means he intended to
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pojr
08/09/17 12:58:28 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
Balrog0 posted...
LordMarshal posted...
He made a video explaining what went down and he seemed very normal and down to earth in it.


lol srsly?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYnM9hexHdA

The video is full of inaccurate information and outright lying by Chris
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WizardPowers
08/09/17 1:00:34 PM
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I never really got the appeal to the Angry Nerd persona. The plumbers don't wear ties video and the big rigs videos were really good but outside of that I don't understand the appeal to that type of humor
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SavenForever
08/09/17 1:05:41 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The appeal of AVGN now is James and Mike Mondays and videos like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WzkdlNYz0Q


Too bad Bootsy left tho


Pretty sure Bootsy got forced out by Mike because he was jealous of how good he was at hard games. Shame, he was great.

AVGN isn't nowhere near as great as he used to be in 2006 & 2007. But as far as some other Youtube channels are concerned, James has done pretty well keeping himself alive 11 years later whereas a lot of the most popular channels like Fred, Brentalfloss, etc. are pretty much dead now, and a lot of channels went from being great to complete trash (Retsupurae). Even then, there have been a few AVGN videos that have came out here and there that were a glimpse of what made him so good back in the day like that Paperboy review. James needs to do more of that.
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mach25687
08/09/17 1:11:03 PM
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SavenForever posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
The appeal of AVGN now is James and Mike Mondays and videos like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WzkdlNYz0Q


Too bad Bootsy left tho


Pretty sure Bootsy got forced out by Mike because he was jealous of how good he was at hard games. Shame, he was great.

AVGN isn't nowhere near as great as he used to be in 2006 & 2007. But as far as some other Youtube channels are concerned, James has done pretty well keeping himself alive 11 years later whereas a lot of the most popular channels like Fred, Brentalfloss, etc. are pretty much dead now, and a lot of channels went from being great to complete trash (Retsupurae). Even then, there have been a few AVGN videos that have came out here and there that were a glimpse of what made him so good back in the day like that Paperboy review. James needs to do more of that.


Gaming in the 90's was so awesome and their dark seed lp.
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Dr_Agon
08/09/17 1:14:59 PM
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I don't know. His most recent Nerd videos seem to be very much timed for big release games or movies, e.g. the last one on Planet of the Apes for PSOne came out just before the new PotA movie. I think that his style is rather old at this point and has been copied to hell, so he has to stay somewhat relevant. But at least he's stayed true to what he always was... even with the James and Mike Monday playthrough videos.

Do yourself a favour and watch the whole Board James series. It's really good and gets quite dark towards the end.
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EverDownward
08/09/17 1:16:19 PM
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I can't fault him, or really expect too much from him these days. I figure he's past his prime, and he's earned the right to kinda do whatever he wants since he was doing his gimmick long before others aped it.
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Distant_Rainbow
08/09/17 1:16:26 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
I wonder if he'll stop doing AVGN completely.


Not before reviewing this:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/587553-raid-2020

He promised to cover that in the year 2020.
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Taxer
08/09/17 1:24:19 PM
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His AVGN stuff has gotten weaker over the years, but his other content has gotten a bit better. There's only so much you can do with one character. Also I think Bootsy doesn't live in the same area, so he's only a guest rather than a regular.
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UnfairRepresent
08/09/17 1:25:12 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
I wonder if he'll stop doing AVGN completely.

I very much doubt it.

He pretty much outright said in the Megaman review (which is really good BTW) that he knows AVGN is popular but it's stale, and his plan is to pretty much turn the character into part time thing that he brings out now and then because it's fun.

Even if its only 1-4 videos a year I expect AVGN will be around forever
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Dr_Agon
08/09/17 1:27:15 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJi-zq0rPAg

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legendarylemur
08/09/17 1:44:09 PM
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I dunno, sure he was fresh and interesting in his earlier days, and he's pretty much made the whole Youtube gaming show culture happen singlehandedly. But his earlier reviews aren't really much better than his newer ones, which have higher production value and focuses on funny commentary and skit rather than just being really really angry and not much else.

And mellow James is significantly better than angry James
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Elmdor043
08/09/17 2:04:58 PM
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His last few have been pretty great tbh, although before that did have some shitty vids like the awful 12 days of shitmas stuff. Board James is awesome though, I wish he didn't possibly end it for good because the horror series it turned into was fantastic and fucked up, my kinda shit.
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TimePharaoh
08/09/17 2:40:16 PM
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Conflict posted...
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Conflict posted...
gafemaqs posted...
He's also become significantly less angry.


I don't see how this is an issue

As he got older the whole gimmick kinda started to lose its luster

He was called the "Angry" Video Game Nerd for a reason.


Yeah, he was. Then he got married, had kids, started doing James & Mike Mondays and got occupied with all types of other shit. So naturally he's going to mellow out since it's difficult to maintain the gimmick eternally.

And as I already stated the 'Angry' shit got old anyway. His newer videos are pretty similar to his first review which evidently was not that angry.


...you realize it's a character and not really him, right?
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