Current Events > Indiana Jones whole 'it belongs in a museum' spiel becomes a lot less noble when

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you realize he literally means the object in question should be in a museum
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i mean, what else would he have meant?
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Wow, can't sneak anything past you can they.
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That belongs in a museum!

SO DO YOU, DR. JONES!! THROW HIM OVER!
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In 1000 years, you'll be a historical piece too!
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"It belongs to the museum."
"Your name is Museum?"
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It becomes a lot less noble when you realize he's stealing it from people who have made it a feature of their ritual for generations and who will likely never see it again. And he's tossing it in a museum for the enrichment and amusement of white people, who will never understand the value it held for the people who lost it.
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Saspa topic
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hollow_shrine posted...

It becomes a lot less noble when you realize he's stealing it from people who have made it a feature of their ritual for generations and who will likely never see it again. And he's tossing it in a museum for the enrichment and amusement of white people, who will never understand the value it held for the people who lost it.

I mean. I guess he stole that idol but maybe he didn't know the jungle people are ooging to it but when he learned they were throwing spears at his balls and he wasn't inclined to give it back?

Don't think he he took anything else from anyone that wasn't already stolen.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

I mean. I guess he stole that idol but maybe he didn't know the jungle people are ooging to it but when he learned they were throwing spears at his balls and he wasn't inclined to give it back?

Can I use that if I rob a bank?

hollow_shrine posted...

It becomes a lot less noble when you realize he's stealing it from people who have made it a feature of their ritual for generations and who will likely never see it again. And he's tossing it in a museum for the enrichment and amusement of white people, who will never understand the value it held for the people who lost it.

The more impressive parts of these movies is the implied civilizations who could make photosenstive and pressure-sensitive traps out of vines and sticks, that still function after several hundred or thousand years.

If, it is in fact the natives resetting everything after some dumbass foreigner falls for a simple booby-trap, then yes, Indy's a bit of a dick.

JE19426 posted...

Can I use that if I rob a bank?

I would watch your trial if you tried.

hollow_shrine posted...

It becomes a lot less noble when you realize he's stealing it from people who have made it a feature of their ritual for generations and who will likely never see it again. And he's tossing it in a museum for the enrichment and amusement of white people, who will never understand the value it held for the people who lost it.

Yup pretty much this was the subtext of my post.
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your post had no subtext
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I hated that part until I learned that it's against international law to privately own something recovered from a tomb.

And that's not to say that laws and morals are one and the same. There's plenty of room to argue that the people who place things in museums are no less grave robbers than a man like Panama Hat. But he is knowingly acquiring something which is agreed upon by various governments to belong in exhibition to the public as a preservation of history. It's not like he bought a movie prop and kept it in his basement.

Skye Reynolds posted...

I hated that part until I learned that it's against international law to privately own something recovered from a tomb.

So, if my grandpa is exhumed for some reason, it's a crime to keep his Korean War service medal from the coffin?

You belong in a museum!

You belong in a museum!

You belong in a museum!
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So do you! Throw him over the side!!
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Is TC drunk?
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NeonOctopus posted...

Is TC drunk?

no, that's just his natural state of mind lol
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Skye Reynolds posted...

I hated that part until I learned that it's against international law to privately own something recovered from a tomb.

And that's not to say that laws and morals are one and the same. There's plenty of room to argue that the people who place things in museums are no less grave robbers than a man like Panama Hat. But he is knowingly acquiring something which is agreed upon by various governments to belong in exhibition to the public as a preservation of history. It's not like he bought a movie prop and kept it in his basement.

That's literally what happened with the arc of the covenant....
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And Indy wasn't too pleased with that outcome. :v

Xelltrix posted...

You belong in a museum!

You belong in a museum!

You belong in a museum!

Took too long for someone to post this.
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Lol I can just imagine Oprah saying that XD !
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hollow_shrine posted...

It becomes a lot less noble when you realize he's stealing it from people who have made it a feature of their ritual for generations and who will likely never see it again. And he's tossing it in a museum for the enrichment and amusement of white people, who will never understand the value it held for the people who lost it.

Pretty much this. It's a fun story, but historically, this sort of imperialism actually happened a lot and groups are still fighting today to get their sacred objects back.

Check it out, a paradox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVlViaNxAOs
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I see a thumbnail of harrison ford holding a controller playing u3, how is that a paradox?
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@Zack_Attackv1
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Once again you see there is nothing you possess which I cannot take away...
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Again, Dr. Jones, what was briefly yours is now mine
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Dash_Harber posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

It becomes a lot less noble when you realize he's stealing it from people who have made it a feature of their ritual for generations and who will likely never see it again. And he's tossing it in a museum for the enrichment and amusement of white people, who will never understand the value it held for the people who lost it.

Pretty much this. It's a fun story, but historically, this sort of imperialism actually happened a lot and groups are still fighting today to get their sacred objects back.

It's why Temple of Doom used to be my favorite. He gives the stones back to the indians.
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saspa posted...

It's why Temple of Doom used to be my favorite. He gives the stones back to the indians.

But, didn't the villagers, at some point or another, steal the stones from that skull altar thing?

I think it's the other way around, the evildoers stole the stones and put the stones in the skulls
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saspa posted...

I think it's the other way around, the evildoers stole the stones and put the stones in the skulls

Seems like that would take a hell of a lot of planning, to build an altar for stones that someone else has.
Then again, it's all just worrying too damn much about a movie featuring automatically-resettable traps made of stone and vines, and a guy doing some sort of amateur heart surgery.

Well of course, first the altar, then comes the stones. And will all the child slaves, it's quite easy to find someone to manually reset all the traps...
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This is why Lara Croft is a huge bitch (Pre-Re-reboot)

In both the original 6 games and the reboot trilogy, it's her parents who are wealthy. Then when she grows up she goes around the world stealing important cultural relics and then keeps them in her house, just for herself and her bulter to look at
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saspa posted...

And will all the child slaves, it's quite easy to find someone to manually reset all the traps...

At the exact moment Willie stuck her hand in bug goo and found the lever?

Skye Reynolds posted...

I hated that part until I learned that it's against international law to privately own something recovered from a tomb.

And that's not to say that laws and morals are one and the same. There's plenty of room to argue that the people who place things in museums are no less grave robbers than a man like Panama Hat. But he is knowingly acquiring something which is agreed upon by various governments to belong in exhibition to the public as a preservation of history. It's not like he bought a movie prop and kept it in his basement.

Was that agreed upon in the 30s?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

saspa posted...

And will all the child slaves, it's quite easy to find someone to manually reset all the traps...

At the exact moment Willie stuck her hand in bug goo and found the lever?

Hmmm that's a bit more tricky I'll have to rewatch the scene to refresh.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

This is why Lara Croft is a huge bitch (Pre-Re-reboot)

In both the original 6 games and the reboot trilogy, it's her parents who are wealthy. Then when she grows up she goes around the world stealing important cultural relics and then keeps them in her house, just for herself and her bulter to look at

But in the second movie she returns the pandora box to the africans. Actually she doesn't take any artifact for herself in the first movie either so...
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Xelltrix posted...

You belong in a museum!

You belong in a museum!

You belong in a museum!

Everyone belongs in a museum!
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SlashmanSG posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

I hated that part until I learned that it's against international law to privately own something recovered from a tomb.

And that's not to say that laws and morals are one and the same. There's plenty of room to argue that the people who place things in museums are no less grave robbers than a man like Panama Hat. But he is knowingly acquiring something which is agreed upon by various governments to belong in exhibition to the public as a preservation of history. It's not like he bought a movie prop and kept it in his basement.

Was that agreed upon in the 30s?

To think, Indiana Jones is that old...
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saspa posted...

But in the second movie she returns the pandora box to the africans. Actually she doesn't take any artifact for herself in the first movie either so...

We don't talk about those movies.
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Then what else is there?
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Ray Liotta's 'as far back as I can remember' spiel in Goodfellas is a lot less noble when you realize he's literally taking you as far back as he can remember.

amidoinitrite?
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Ray liotta is a bad guy in goodfellas though....
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how can he be a bad guy when the movie is called Goodfellas
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Oh a wiseguy eh??
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