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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/05/17 12:40:24 PM
#252:


LordZangetsu_LZ posted...
Why do people believe in the bible? Not trying to be an a** or anything.. just wondering.


lol, it's hilarious that people still censor words as it is, but ass was never a banned word.
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JohnLennon6
08/05/17 1:57:03 PM
#253:


LordZangetsu_LZ posted...
Why do people believe in the bible? Not trying to be an a** or anything.. just wondering.

Because we have a faith in God.
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LordZangetsu_LZ
08/05/17 2:33:22 PM
#254:


JohnLennon6 posted...
LordZangetsu_LZ posted...
Why do people believe in the bible? Not trying to be an a** or anything.. just wondering.

Because we have a faith in God.

Why? What does God do? (again, just looking for answers. not trying to be rude)
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VaniIIa Coke
08/06/17 5:55:15 PM
#255:


The Deadpool posted...
VaniIIa Coke posted...
How are you going to claim to understand peoples beliefs to detail they believe lies..


Communication.

Do you believe Zeus throws lightning bolts?


Why do you think he throws footballs or small dogs or glitter? Like wtf, you are talking about fucking Zues.

Don't ask me any more stupid questions.

Here's to honest communication.

When you ask an honest question, you will appreciate my honest answers.
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LordZangetsu_LZ
08/06/17 6:43:06 PM
#256:


VaniIIa Coke posted...
The Deadpool posted...
VaniIIa Coke posted...
How are you going to claim to understand peoples beliefs to detail they believe lies..


Communication.

Do you believe Zeus throws lightning bolts?


Why do you think he throws footballs or small dogs or glitter? Like wtf, you are talking about fucking Zues.

Don't ask me any more stupid questions.

Here's to honest communication.

When you ask an honest question, you will appreciate my honest answers.

do you believe in the christian God?
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VaniIIa Coke
08/06/17 10:56:25 PM
#257:


LordZangetsu_LZ posted...
VaniIIa Coke posted...
The Deadpool posted...
VaniIIa Coke posted...
How are you going to claim to understand peoples beliefs to detail they believe lies..


Communication.

Do you believe Zeus throws lightning bolts?


Why do you think he throws footballs or small dogs or glitter? Like wtf, you are talking about fucking Zues.

Don't ask me any more stupid questions.

Here's to honest communication.

When you ask an honest question, you will appreciate my honest answers.

do you believe in the christian God?


God is secular.

Religion is not the basis of God, God is the basis of religion.

I do believe Jesus adhered to the true God of all creation from his position I see through his words.

I want to make a distinction between God and religion tho.

God=/=Religion

lol, a lot of people here needed that.
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The Deadpool
08/07/17 1:06:10 AM
#258:


VaniIIa Coke posted...
The Deadpool posted...
VaniIIa Coke posted...
How are you going to claim to understand peoples beliefs to detail they believe lies..


Communication.

Do you believe Zeus throws lightning bolts?


Why do you think he throws footballs or small dogs or glitter? Like wtf, you are talking about fucking Zues.

Don't ask me any more stupid questions.

Here's to honest communication.

When you ask an honest question, you will appreciate my honest answers.


Simple yes/no question.

Do you believe all lightning is thrown by Zeus?
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Dragonblade01
08/07/17 1:28:05 AM
#259:


VaniIIa Coke posted...
God is secular.

Religion is not the basis of God, God is the basis of religion.

I do believe Jesus adhered to the true God of all creation from his position I see through his words.

I want to make a distinction between God and religion tho.

God=/=Religion

lol, a lot of people here needed that.

That's fine. But religion or not, what reason do you have to believe that such a thing exists? And if such a thing exists, why should it be given a label with such baggage as "god."
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VaniIIa Coke
08/07/17 11:24:51 AM
#260:


Dragonblade01 posted...
VaniIIa Coke posted...
God is secular.

Religion is not the basis of God, God is the basis of religion.

I do believe Jesus adhered to the true God of all creation from his position I see through his words.

I want to make a distinction between God and religion tho.

God=/=Religion

lol, a lot of people here needed that.

That's fine. But religion or not, what reason do you have to believe that such a thing exists? And if such a thing exists, why should it be given a label with such baggage as "god."


What thing?

I thought we were talking about God, if not religion.

A thing is an inanimate material object as distinct from a living sentient being.
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Dragonblade01
08/07/17 12:51:29 PM
#261:


However you choose to define god:

Why should we believe that god exists?

And why should we use that definition?
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VaniIIa Coke
08/07/17 8:00:17 PM
#262:


Dragonblade01 posted...
However you choose to define god:

Why should we believe that god exists?

And why should we use that definition?


If you think the value of God is irrelevant, I want to know what the hell you are actually trying to understand.

On that note, how are you asking an honest question while using a variable. Variables are liable to change.
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Hexagon
08/07/17 9:18:25 PM
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@kewldude475 posted...
I don't believe matter, planets, and living organisms can come from nothing, much less a giant, random explosion, so atheism is totally out of the question for me lol. I'll believe in a god long before ever believing explosions can create matter and life out of literally nothing


But you'd rather believe in a deity that came from nothing? Oh what's that? There's more to it? God didn't really come from nothing? Well good, nothing you said is true of atheism either.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 9:54:50 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Sorry bro, random explosions don't create rocks, matter, planets, and life. To me that's a laughable theory and always will be. But if you believe it more power to ya lol, but it's definitely not for me.


@kewldude475
That's amazing.

I mean, you could have just said "I don't comprehend the subject we're talking about" and saved yourself some face.

Instead you decided to show how laughable your opinion is considering you literally DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SUBJECT YOU'RE DISCUSSING!
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Hexagon
08/07/17 9:56:59 PM
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@kewldude475 posted...
Sorry bro, random explosions don't create rocks, matter, planets, and life. To me that's a laughable theory and always will be. But if you believe it more power to ya lol, but it's definitely not for me.


The stuff that was blasted into rocks, matter, and planets, and life always existed or doesn't exist inside our perception and definition of time until it exploded. Its no more laughable than your own belief, except it makes more sense than your nonsense.
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Hexagon
08/07/17 9:58:18 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Okay, explain how I don't know what I'm talking about since you're apparently an expert on the Big Bang Theory. Oh wait, you're just attempting to disparage me without actually coming up with a half-decent argument. It's 2017 bro, do better, nobody is dumb enough to fall for that tactic lmao


Imagine being this ignorant and thinking that you're not an atheist unless you believe in the big bang theory.
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Hexagon
08/07/17 9:59:45 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Hexagon posted...
@kewldude475 posted...
Sorry bro, random explosions don't create rocks, matter, planets, and life. To me that's a laughable theory and always will be. But if you believe it more power to ya lol, but it's definitely not for me.


The stuff that was blasted into rocks, matter, and planets, and life always existed or doesn't exist inside our perception and definition of time until it exploded. Its no more laughable than your own belief, except it makes more sense than your nonsense.

"Always existed"

So matter can always exist but God can't? Lol. Also you have no proof whatsoever God always existed, so your argument here is LOL at best



So God can always exist but matter can't? Lol. Also you have no proof whatsoever matter always existed, so your argument here is LOL at best
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LightningAce11
08/07/17 9:59:46 PM
#273:


Why do religious people insist on blind faith in god but handwave things that have solid proof?
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:01:22 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Okay, explain how I don't know what I'm talking about since you're apparently an expert on the Big Bang Theory. Oh wait, you're just attempting to disparage me without actually coming up with a half-decent argument. It's 2017 bro, do better, nobody is dumb enough to fall for that tactic lmao


"before I believe rocks can literally appear out of thin air for no reason. Or better yet, things being created by an explosion (lol). Yeah not gunna happen"

Well everything you said there is wrong and shows your comprehension of the subject caps out at picturing a bomb going off...

That's just scratching the surface lol. Why not just concede these conversations aren't for you and leave with the very little dignity you have left.
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frogman_295
08/07/17 10:03:01 PM
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i abandoned atheism for agnosticism a while ago. But i know if there is a god, this being isn't as cruel as the one in any of the popular religions (minus buddhism). i respect Atheists though, and no it's not nearly as bad as fidget spinners. lol come on man.
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Hexagon
08/07/17 10:03:35 PM
#279:


kewldude475 posted...
Hexagon posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Okay, explain how I don't know what I'm talking about since you're apparently an expert on the Big Bang Theory. Oh wait, you're just attempting to disparage me without actually coming up with a half-decent argument. It's 2017 bro, do better, nobody is dumb enough to fall for that tactic lmao


Imagine being this ignorant and thinking that you're not an atheist unless you believe in the big bang theory.

Okay, in which case, I don't believe something, much less matter, complex life forms, and planets, come from nothing, and I'd place my bet on intelligent design, personally.


But you'd rather believe in a deity that came from nothing? Oh what's that? There's more to it? God didn't really come from nothing? Well good, nothing you said is true of atheism either.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:03:35 PM
#280:


LightningAce11 posted...
Why do religious people insist on blind faith in god but handwave things that have solid proof?


kewldude475 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Why do religious people insist on blind faith in god but handwave things that have solid proof?

Examples? Just kidding, you have none. At least, as far as I'm concerned. If you're talking about other people, well obviously I can't speak for them they have their thoughts.


Like I said, this dudes absolutely clueless on the subject.

Arguably incapable of comprehending it since he's neck deep in the perseverance effect.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:04:44 PM
#282:


kewldude475 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Okay, explain how I don't know what I'm talking about since you're apparently an expert on the Big Bang Theory. Oh wait, you're just attempting to disparage me without actually coming up with a half-decent argument. It's 2017 bro, do better, nobody is dumb enough to fall for that tactic lmao


"before I believe rocks can literally appear out of thin air for no reason. Or better yet, things being created by an explosion (lol). Yeah not gunna happen"

Well everything you said there is wrong and shows your comprehension of the subject caps out at picturing a bomb going off...

That's just scratching the surface lol. Why not just concede these conversations aren't for you and leave with the very little dignity you have left.

LOL again, you have no argument, and don't even understand your own beliefs enough to explain why I'm wrong.

"Leave with what little dignity you have"

LOL take your own advice buddy you're the one making a fool of yourself for accusing other people or ignorance when you have no counterargument. Your attempts to disparage me are, once again, pathetic and disgusting at best.


I'm sure I'm making a fool of myself to all the delusional religious fanatics.

That's fine with me because we're discussing science not religion.
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frogman_295
08/07/17 10:06:51 PM
#284:


kewldude475 posted...
frogman_295 posted...

Fidget spinners are still a thing?


well i did see them on the news a couple of mornings ago...
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:07:10 PM
#286:


kewldude475 posted...
Hexagon posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Hexagon posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Okay, explain how I don't know what I'm talking about since you're apparently an expert on the Big Bang Theory. Oh wait, you're just attempting to disparage me without actually coming up with a half-decent argument. It's 2017 bro, do better, nobody is dumb enough to fall for that tactic lmao


Imagine being this ignorant and thinking that you're not an atheist unless you believe in the big bang theory.

Okay, in which case, I don't believe something, much less matter, complex life forms, and planets, come from nothing, and I'd place my bet on intelligent design, personally.


But you'd rather believe in a deity that came from nothing? Oh what's that? There's more to it? God didn't really come from nothing? Well good, nothing you said is true of atheism either.

Matter coming from nothing seems just as magical as a diety existing, to me. There's at least equal chance of a god existing to me, and there's no rule that science and a god can't both exist.


No there isn't.

So let me give you some advice, if you actually care about what's being discussed at all then go look into the subject yourself because every time you say it seems like magic people are gonna laugh at you.
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frogman_295
08/07/17 10:07:51 PM
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And this is a troll topic. WTF TC...
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Hexagon
08/07/17 10:08:53 PM
#289:


@kewldude475

so atheism is totally out of the question for me lol. I'll believe in a god long before ever believing explosions can create matter and life out of literally nothing


Matter coming from nothing seems just as magical as a diety existing, to me. There's at least equal chance of a god existing to me


You just contradicted yourself pretty quickly. I honestly expected more game from you.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:10:34 PM
#292:


kewldude475 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Okay, explain how I don't know what I'm talking about since you're apparently an expert on the Big Bang Theory. Oh wait, you're just attempting to disparage me without actually coming up with a half-decent argument. It's 2017 bro, do better, nobody is dumb enough to fall for that tactic lmao


"before I believe rocks can literally appear out of thin air for no reason. Or better yet, things being created by an explosion (lol). Yeah not gunna happen"

Well everything you said there is wrong and shows your comprehension of the subject caps out at picturing a bomb going off...

That's just scratching the surface lol. Why not just concede these conversations aren't for you and leave with the very little dignity you have left.

LOL again, you have no argument, and don't even understand your own beliefs enough to explain why I'm wrong.

"Leave with what little dignity you have"

LOL take your own advice buddy you're the one making a fool of yourself for accusing other people or ignorance when you have no counterargument. Your attempts to disparage me are, once again, pathetic and disgusting at best.


I'm sure I'm making a fool of myself to all the delusional religious fanatics.

That's fine with me because we're discussing science not religion.

You can't even discuss science, all you can do is say "You're wrong" with no counterargument. Once again, disgusting.


No ones gonna sit here and write out a three hour post about particles and cosmic radiation and shit. All we're gonna do is point out that the things you're saying are objectively wrong in some cases and leave it to you.

I've already gave you plenty of starting points since googling "the Big Bang" and reading what it actually entails is beyond you.

You don't have to agree with it but if you try discussing it and are wrong about everything I'm gonna continue to point and laugh.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:12:28 PM
#295:


kewldude475 posted...
Anyways, I'm out. Have fun atheists.


Sorry you're too simple to partake in the discussion.
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Hexagon
08/07/17 10:13:30 PM
#296:


@kewldude475 posted...
Hexagon posted...
@kewldude475

so atheism is totally out of the question for me lol. I'll believe in a god long before ever believing explosions can create matter and life out of literally nothing


Matter coming from nothing seems just as magical as a diety existing, to me. There's at least equal chance of a god existing to me


You just contradicted yourself pretty quickly. I honestly expected more game from you.

Nah, I said "at least equal" meaning it could be 50%, could be 99.999999999% chance of god existing, and if to me there is a 99.999999% chance, that pretty much means atheism is out of the question for me. I worded my post like I did for a reason. I don't have time for your poor reading comprehension and determination to misunderstand what I'm saying.


If you really worded your post on purpose you would have actually said at least 99.999999% and not at least equal chance. You said you were out, but you come back to write another paragraph. You know you angry cause you screwed up.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:14:05 PM
#297:


kewldude475 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Okay, explain how I don't know what I'm talking about since you're apparently an expert on the Big Bang Theory. Oh wait, you're just attempting to disparage me without actually coming up with a half-decent argument. It's 2017 bro, do better, nobody is dumb enough to fall for that tactic lmao


"before I believe rocks can literally appear out of thin air for no reason. Or better yet, things being created by an explosion (lol). Yeah not gunna happen"

Well everything you said there is wrong and shows your comprehension of the subject caps out at picturing a bomb going off...

That's just scratching the surface lol. Why not just concede these conversations aren't for you and leave with the very little dignity you have left.

LOL again, you have no argument, and don't even understand your own beliefs enough to explain why I'm wrong.

"Leave with what little dignity you have"

LOL take your own advice buddy you're the one making a fool of yourself for accusing other people or ignorance when you have no counterargument. Your attempts to disparage me are, once again, pathetic and disgusting at best.


I'm sure I'm making a fool of myself to all the delusional religious fanatics.

That's fine with me because we're discussing science not religion.

You can't even discuss science, all you can do is say "You're wrong" with no counterargument. Once again, disgusting.


No ones gonna sit here and write out a three hour post about particles and cosmic radiation and shit. All we're gonna do is point out that the things you're saying are objectively wrong in some cases and leave it to you.

I've already gave you plenty of starting points since googling "the Big Bang" and reading what it actually entails is beyond you.

You don't have to agree with it but if you try discussing it and are wrong about everything I'm gonna continue to point and laugh.

Blah blah blah you have no argument, so stop talking, lmfao. Next time you wanna attack (or debate, whatever you wanna call it) someone, do it well and not in a totally lazy way, or just be quiet.


Well I know why they say religious people have lower IQ's.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:16:21 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
kewldude475 posted...
Anyways, I'm out. Have fun atheists.


Sorry you're too simple to partake in the discussion.

That would be you, buddy. you're the one with no counterargument. try harder, please, I'm getting bored


disprove cosmic microwave background..

Hell describe it to me. Do that and I'll concede every post I made.

@kewldude475 I'll wait.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/17 10:18:29 PM
#303:


kewldude475 posted...
Anyways this is going nowhere and this topic is going downhill, not to mention I'm hungry and probably won't be back from eating until responding to this topic is pointless anyways, so once again, I'm out


Lol look at this.

He can't say anything about cosmic microwave background so he's gonna pretend that it's not worth discussing.
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The Deadpool
08/07/17 10:18:50 PM
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kewldude475 posted...
I'll believe that a deity that always existed


If you accept that something can exist without being created, what's wrong with matter and energy always existing?

As far as we can tell matter and energy can neither be destroyed nor created, it just changes form. Why shouldn't it just have always been like that?
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