Current Events > Trump administration will not allow trans people to serve in military

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
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Most LGBT-friendly president ever!!!!!!
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Didn't he say he would support the lgbt?
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Great news. This stuff causes disruption in the military and could cost lives.

The medical costs would be outlandish. Sorry to say.
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b-but muh trump holding the lgbt flag
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The tolerant right
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LightningAce11 posted...

Didn't he say he would support the lgbt?

Yes. He just didn't specify he would in the military.

also, I was on the first page

just because this is a 500 explosive controversy topic in the making

*grabs popcorn*
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@gunplagirl
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If I were trans and wanted to serve my country Id join anyway. What are they going to do arrest me for trying to serve? How un-american of them.
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Non-issue.
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Which medical costs?
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why would he even tweet that

FrenchCrunch posted...

why would he even tweet that

something to distract from his slowly collapsing administration
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emblem boy posted...

Which medical costs?

If I recall correctly. I just had a transgender class at the range two months ago. Army would pay for gender reassignment therapy, doctors, and everything else
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The Admiral posted...

Non-issue.

of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism
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Good

The Admiral posted...

liberals

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Mark_DeRosa posted...

emblem boy posted...

Which medical costs?

If I recall correctly. I just had a transgender class at the range two months ago. Army would pay for gender reassignment therapy, doctors, and everything else

Considering the outlandish amount of money that's given to the army, surely this wouldn't be an issue?
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Idk about medical costs unless the military would have to pay for hormone treatment but he's not exactly wrong about how it would cause a ton of issues. Sadly I don't think there's an easy answer.
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Gays and Women are still barely accepted in the military as well. Remember, the GOP is trying to bring back don't ask, don't tell and somehow expect women to be able to meet the male standards for military training even through a woman's body is pretty different from a man's for them to have the same training regimen. So it's not at all surprising tome that they want it to return to being a boy's club of like minded individuals Hell, in the military there's a racial divide as well,it's a perfect breeding ground for tribalism.
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This is a great move tbh. Trans folk shouldnt be serving as they cause confusion and soak up resources. Why should we let a female that IDs as a man join? That's insane. kick'em all out and bar them from ever joining again-thats my logic.

I've never been more proud to be America. MAGA!

LightningAce11 posted...

Considering the outlandish amount of money that's given to the army, surely this wouldn't be an issue?

Not at all, no. But we need to build more multi-million dollar bombs and aircraft carriers we never use instead of maintaining our military personnel, I guess.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Idk about medical costs unless the military would have to pay for hormone treatment but he's not exactly wrong about how it would cause a ton of issues. Sadly I don't think there's an easy answer.

This isn't gonna fly in today's snowflake society. Everything has to be fair and even steven!!!!!


Someone remind these snowflakes that life isn't fair.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Idk about medical costs unless the military would have to pay for hormone treatment but he's not exactly wrong about how it would cause a ton of issues. Sadly I don't think there's an easy answer.

Screw the issues, if you want to be discriminatory the army isn't the place for it. It should be all-inclusive.
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It's the fucking army. It's not at war to the point they're conscripting people.

They can be as picky as they want.

LightningAce11 posted...

Mark_DeRosa posted...

emblem boy posted...

Which medical costs?

If I recall correctly. I just had a transgender class at the range two months ago. Army would pay for gender reassignment therapy, doctors, and everything else

Considering the outlandish amount of money that's given to the army, surely this wouldn't be an issue?

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The medical costs for the extreme minority of transgendered servicemen should just be a drop in the ocean of funding that the military is given.
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LightningAce11 posted...

Mark_DeRosa posted...

emblem boy posted...

Which medical costs?

If I recall correctly. I just had a transgender class at the range two months ago. Army would pay for gender reassignment therapy, doctors, and everything else

Considering the outlandish amount of money that's given to the army, surely this wouldn't be an issue?

Last I checked military has been downsizing and starting to become a lot more old school. This is my last month so I'm good. But I heard next range there will be no barracks, everyone sleeps outside in half shelters. To train like the old ways and save money

Army is going back to old school kill mentality way
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So, when are the camps going to be installed?
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Only the best of the best should serve. Women and Trans folk that cause issues should and will not serve in our Military. Lifes not fair get over it snowflakes.

Mark_DeRosa posted...

LightningAce11 posted...

Mark_DeRosa posted...

emblem boy posted...

Which medical costs?

If I recall correctly. I just had a transgender class at the range two months ago. Army would pay for gender reassignment therapy, doctors, and everything else

Considering the outlandish amount of money that's given to the army, surely this wouldn't be an issue?

Last I checked military has been downsizing and starting to become a lot more old school. This is my last month so I'm good. But I heard next range there will be no barracks, everyone sleeps outside in half shelters. To train like the old ways and save money

Army is going back to old school kill mentality way

Good. Make our boys stronger. Bring back DADT as well and I won't have doubts about our military.

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FrenchCrunch posted...

why would he even tweet that

he doesn't want to get reelected? virtue signaling to the right wingers? :u stupidity? take your pick.

but I don't really disagree with this, just from an efficacy point of view. It is an unnecessary burden on the troops. Numerous other medical reasons exempt you from serving in the military, including our president elect's unfortunate bone spurs that exempted him from the draft, so I don't think it is that outlandish for transgenderism to prevent people from serving.

I mean... if you want to serve and you're transgender, why not just transition after your military career is over? Then there wouldn't be any fuss about it.
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So someone who dodges Vietnam is going after those who willingly put their life on the line to protect the nation. I wonder who the Right will side with here .
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This has made me more angry than I would have guessed. This hurts. This actually hurts. My anger, my hate for Trump and all conservatives who support this right now is overwhelming.
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This part actually makes sense tho:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFqgjpdVwAE5EPk.jpg:large
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

I mean... if you want to serve and you're transgender, why not just transition after your military career is over? Then there wouldn't be any fuss about it.

This policy means they can't serve, period.
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Antifar posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

I mean... if you want to serve and you're transgender, why not just transition after your military career is over? Then there wouldn't be any fuss about it.

This policy means they can't serve, period.

Wait I thought the policy just means they can't transition while in the military?
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cjsdowg posted...

So someone who dodges Vietnam is going after those who willingly put their life on the line to protect the nation. I wonder who the Right will side with here .

A coward for a leader, oh, how America have fallen, how did you people let this buffoon win the presidency?
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Antifar posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

I mean... if you want to serve and you're transgender, why not just transition after your military career is over? Then there wouldn't be any fuss about it.

This policy means they can't serve, period.

Even if they only identify as the other gender but willingly conforms to the expectations of their biological sex in all military aspects? :/ If so, then yea, this is pretty awful.
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...

This has made me more angry than I would have guessed. This hurts. This actually hurts. My anger, my hate for Trump and all conservatives who support this right now is overwhelming.

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Kitepitou posted...

cjsdowg posted...

So someone who dodges Vietnam is going after those who willingly put their life on the line to protect the nation. I wonder who the Right will side with here .

A coward for a leader, oh, how America have fallen, how did you people let this buffoon win the presidency?

Do you not know of all the accusations of him conspiring with Russia? Russia heavily pushed him to winning.
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Iodine posted...

Antifar posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

I mean... if you want to serve and you're transgender, why not just transition after your military career is over? Then there wouldn't be any fuss about it.

This policy means they can't serve, period.

Wait I thought the policy just means they can't transition while in the military?

No theyre BANNED. Just like gays were. If you say you think you should be the other gender its a discharge.
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Iodine posted...

Antifar posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

I mean... if you want to serve and you're transgender, why not just transition after your military career is over? Then there wouldn't be any fuss about it.

This policy means they can't serve, period.

Wait I thought the policy just means they can't transition while in the military?

Trump's exact words are

"The United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity."

If the policy differs from those words, that would be good to know, but his words say nothing about transitioning.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Malcolm_Caradoc posted...

This has made me more angry than I would have guessed. This hurts. This actually hurts. My anger, my hate for Trump and all conservatives who support this right now is overwhelming.

I love how people equate calling out with crying when it comes to Trump.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Even if they only identify as the other gender but willingly conforms to the expectations of their biological sex in all military aspects? :/ If so, then yea, this is pretty awful.

That is the implication of his tweets. It would not be unheard of for his tweets to differ from reality, but these don't even look like they were written by him.
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Antifar posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Even if they only identify as the other gender but willingly conforms to the expectations of their biological sex in all military aspects? :/ If so, then yea, this is pretty awful.

That is the implication of his tweets. It would not be unheard of for his tweets to differ from reality, but these don't even look like they were written by him.

I mean.. that wouldn't even make sense. How would you even know someone was transgender to begin with unless you asked them? Are they going to give people tests or something before they join? :u Jesus.
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DrizztLink posted...

The Admiral posted...

Non-issue.

of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism

Nah. Because if we get real, the universe of people who both want to serve in the military and are transgender is probably not even a couple hundred. This is not worth anyone's time to even worry about.
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