Current Events > So, why did Game Freak remove the Professor Oak fight?

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Kid_Buu
07/22/17 11:44:09 PM
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That would've been really cool.
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Monkhood
07/22/17 11:45:44 PM
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wait what
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BlackHorse6969
07/22/17 11:46:37 PM
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cuz hes overpowered
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Doe
07/22/17 11:46:54 PM
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Monkhood posted...
wait what

I think, and I don't remember for sure, but I think there's leftover code in the original Pokemon RGB where Professor Oak battled you once you did everything else.
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Shotgunnova
07/22/17 11:47:39 PM
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Monkhood posted...
wait what
Oak is evil and holds your mom hostage, demanding you turn over all your pokemon and surrender your Elite Four championship title. You have ten in-game days to evolve (and raise) them to Lv80 in order to fight his stacked team of legendary creatures and maximum evolutions. If you win you get to lmao I made all this up.
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Doe
07/22/17 11:51:21 PM
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Monkhood
07/22/17 11:56:52 PM
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"PROF. OAK wants to fight!"

oh shit.
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Kid_Buu
07/23/17 12:03:32 AM
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why tho
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Lawlfulcoptors1
07/23/17 12:04:39 AM
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Monkhood posted...
"PROF. OAK wants to fight!"

oh shit.


I would throw my gameboy against the wall and run. No one can beat the great Oak.
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Kid_Buu
07/23/17 12:05:27 AM
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trying to corrupt my blue file.

it worked, but then everything turned into sleeping charizards.

that never woke up.

im trying again,
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lilORANG
07/23/17 12:21:45 AM
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Probably so they could shoehorn it into a third version
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Kid_Buu
07/23/17 12:24:13 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Probably so they could shoehorn it into a third version

wait this happens in yellow? never played
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Doe
07/23/17 12:24:43 AM
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Boo_Guy
07/23/17 12:24:54 AM
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Kid_Buu posted...
lilORANG posted...
Probably so they could shoehorn it into a third version

wait this happens in yellow? never played

Nope
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xyphilia
07/23/17 12:25:08 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Probably so they could shoehorn it into a third version

Which they... never did... and you/we know this already so this post... is befuddling...

I always thought they changed their minds because they realized it didn't make sense for oak, a sciencey man to be a pokemon trainer. Essentially he is an academic not a fighter so he's not a final boss for characters to face.
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Kid_Buu
07/23/17 12:25:57 AM
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then @lilORANG uh what
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Lawlfulcoptors1
07/23/17 12:27:53 AM
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Lilorang pass the poketinfoil this way
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lilORANG
07/23/17 12:29:22 AM
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Kid_Buu posted...
lilORANG posted...
Probably so they could shoehorn it into a third version

wait this happens in yellow? never played

No. They probably forgot about it by then, or wanted to keep yellow close to the anime which never included the fight
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ClockworkHare
07/23/17 12:30:55 AM
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Professor Oak asks if you're a boy or girl. You answer and he says you're lying. He then battles you thinking you're part of Team Rocket bent on trying to creating 72 genders and marrying pokemon.
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gunplagirl
07/23/17 12:36:25 AM
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The text when looking at the last pokeball explains everything. "It's professor oak's last Pokemon."

I dunno. There's actually tons of unused or scrapped in development data left in every game. The GBA games had the biggest ones. We would have had more sevii islands for instance.
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Doe
07/23/17 12:38:29 AM
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remember when professor birch got cornered by like a level 2 Zigzagoon or some shit and got spooked like a little boy and he only brought level 5 pokemon to help him
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Lawlfulcoptors1
07/23/17 12:41:08 AM
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No I heard from my friends cousin that they meant to put Oak in as the final battle after you defeat Gary in the elite four because it put Gary into a deep depression, that confident smile and laugh quickly turned into groans of despair and grunts of disgust. He could barely get out of bed all the cheerleaders hopped on the Ash train. When Oak stops by and finds this out he calls Ash to "congratulate" him but Ash soon finds out from the man that started him on his Pokémon journey about what happened to Gary and Oak turns from a congratulatory smile to a furious rage trying to make you feel bad for becoming the better trainer. His masculinity feels tested so as for means of revenge he challenges you to a battle. It's a shame they took out this content.
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Bringit
07/23/17 1:02:54 AM
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I've always felt like Oak was a retired trainer, I don't know why. Just the way he treats Ash in the anime maybe, like he sees him all disheveled and thinks "Huh, I was late for my own destiny too" and hands over a Pikachu a new trainer shouldn't be able to handle because he sees himself in said trainer.

If it was revealed that Prof. Oak once beat the Elite 4, I honestly wouldn't be surprised though I'd like it hinted/implied as opposed to outright stated. There's an aura of mystery about him I like, especially concerning his past (that admittedly is probably all in my head).

Not so much of that in the games though, I guess.
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mehmeh1
07/23/17 1:17:23 AM
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Bringit posted...
I've always felt like Oak was a retired trainer, I don't know why. Just the way he treats Ash in the anime maybe, like he sees him all disheveled and thinks "Huh, I was late for my own destiny too" and hands over a Pikachu a new trainer shouldn't be able to handle because he sees himself in said trainer.

If it was revealed that Prof. Oak once beat the Elite 4, I honestly wouldn't be surprised though I'd like it hinted/implied as opposed to outright stated. There's an aura of mystery about him I like, especially concerning his past (that admittedly is probably all in my head).

Not so much of that in the games though, I guess.

well, in the adventures manga he was a former champion, and in his pc in his lab in the games it said he was invited to something that had to do with the league IIRC
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Rika_Furude
07/23/17 1:19:15 AM
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the last time we let a pokemon professor become a pokemon trainer he became the champion of a whole bunch of islands
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mehmeh1
07/23/17 3:28:26 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
the last time we let a pokemon professor become a pokemon trainer he became the champion of a whole bunch of islands

no, he wasn't the champion, he was pretty much your first challenger/the founder
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Rika_Furude
07/24/17 7:55:29 AM
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For all intents and purposes he is the champion
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Solar_Crimson
07/24/17 8:29:51 AM
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They probably ran out of time to implement it (they had spent six years making Red/Green as it were), and never went through with it in Blue and Yellow. They also probably didn't have space for the scenario that would lead into it, as the game was stuffed full as it were (and in fact, when they removed the debug tools, they added Mew, and had absolutely no way to test it, so they were taking a huge gamble there).
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Doe
07/24/17 2:25:03 PM
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Why did they add Mew but not have a way to catch him?
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mcpwnia
07/24/17 2:27:48 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Kid_Buu posted...
lilORANG posted...
Probably so they could shoehorn it into a third version

wait this happens in yellow? never played

No. They probably forgot about it by then, or wanted to keep yellow close to the anime which never included the fight

nothing in the data supports your claims, what are you talking about my dude
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Mizznox
07/24/17 2:30:49 PM
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Doe posted...
Why did they add Mew but not have a way to catch him?

It was given out at events.
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Solar_Crimson
07/24/17 4:29:19 PM
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Doe posted...
Why did they add Mew but not have a way to catch him?

To keep it a secret for later events and added hype.
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slipknirvana
07/24/17 4:46:01 PM
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I remember battling him in some game while I was under 10. Then again I played long enough, did the Elite Four enough, that Aerodactyl naturally leveled to 101 then up to 104.
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mcpwnia
07/24/17 5:37:30 PM
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slipknirvana posted...
I remember battling him in some game while I was under 10. Then again I played long enough, did the Elite Four enough, that Aerodactyl naturally leveled to 101 then up to 104.

no you didn't
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Monkhood
07/24/17 5:45:43 PM
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lol
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AlisLandale
07/24/17 5:53:56 PM
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mcpwnia posted...
slipknirvana posted...
I remember battling him in some game while I was under 10. Then again I played long enough, did the Elite Four enough, that Aerodactyl naturally leveled to 101 then up to 104.

no you didn't


He could have. The missingno glitch can trigger it.

And Agatha I thought mentioned Oak used to be a trainer.
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davyheinz
07/24/17 5:59:36 PM
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I think this is 100% legit canon:

Oak used to be a trainer and he battled Agatha, which is why you see the Nidorino vs the Gengar in the original games' opening. This is why she refers to him when you go to battle her and she has some bad blood with him.

Oak battling the player after the game as a sort of test or fun battle wouldn't really be all that weird.
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