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xyphilia
07/20/17 9:32:53 PM
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But they don't similarly pixelate the anus. Fucking lol Japan. What is this country sometimes.
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DoomtheGrav
07/20/17 9:33:25 PM
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I think 90 percent of CE probably knows that
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Kaname_Madoka
07/20/17 9:35:21 PM
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i like how they censor penises between the head and the shaft, often with tiny hearts
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ToadallyAwesome
07/20/17 9:36:20 PM
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Nope. Never knew that
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SSJGrimReaper
07/20/17 9:36:51 PM
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isn't that something to do with the yakuza owning the porn studios or some shit
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Megaman50100
07/20/17 9:37:32 PM
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I've heard that it has to do with pubic hair being considered offensive.
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ExMechaGodzilla
07/20/17 9:38:47 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
I've heard that it has to do with pubic hair being considered offensive.

I dont think so, cause earlier today I watched some where the pubic hair was clearly visible while the vagin wasnt

but the censorship doesnt make any sense to me in the first place
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1337toothbrush
07/20/17 9:38:58 PM
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It has to do with laws drawn up after World War 2 by the US. Everyone has an anus, so I guess they don't care about showing it.
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V-E-G-Y-
07/20/17 9:40:05 PM
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Axiom
07/20/17 9:40:46 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
It has to do with laws drawn up after World War 2 by the US. Everyone has an anus, so I guess they don't care about showing it.

This. I'm pretty sure I remember reading an article that said it's actually legal to do unpixelated work now but it's basically taboo in the industry after so long so no one wants be the first to do it
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xyphilia
07/20/17 9:41:32 PM
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Yes but they don't censor or at least they didn't censor in the video I just watched, the female anus. Doesn't that invoke any kind of inquiry on your part?
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Behaviorism
07/20/17 9:48:01 PM
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Axiom posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
It has to do with laws drawn up after World War 2 by the US. Everyone has an anus, so I guess they don't care about showing it.

This. I'm pretty sure I remember reading an article that said it's actually legal to do unpixelated work now but it's basically taboo in the industry after so long so no one wants be the first to do it

I thought it had to do with the Yakuza
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1337toothbrush
07/20/17 9:48:03 PM
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Axiom posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
It has to do with laws drawn up after World War 2 by the US. Everyone has an anus, so I guess they don't care about showing it.

This. I'm pretty sure I remember reading an article that said it's actually legal to do unpixelated work now but it's basically taboo in the industry after so long so no one wants be the first to do it


According to wikipedia, it's still illegal. Pubic hair depiction was illegal until the mid-90s. As a side note and huge mind-blow, production of child porn was legal until 1999 and possession of it was legal until 2014.
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Axiom
07/20/17 9:51:14 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Axiom posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
It has to do with laws drawn up after World War 2 by the US. Everyone has an anus, so I guess they don't care about showing it.

This. I'm pretty sure I remember reading an article that said it's actually legal to do unpixelated work now but it's basically taboo in the industry after so long so no one wants be the first to do it


According to wikipedia, it's still illegal. Pubic hair depiction was illegal until the mid-90s. As a side note and huge mind-blow, production of child porn was legal until 1999 and possession of it was legal until 2014.

Ah I might have confused it with the public hair thing then or something. I donno it was a long time ago and for all I know the article was completely wrong >_>
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Medz2017
07/20/17 9:52:43 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
I've heard that it has to do with pubic hair being considered offensive.

I thought the Japanese girls do not shave as much as the western ladies
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Flermin
07/20/17 9:54:37 PM
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so basically no one really fucking knows

wouldnt it be some law? probably something on the books just saying you can't show it without censoring.
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WizardPowers
07/20/17 9:55:58 PM
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Does Japan have as big of an amateur porn scene as the US/Europe?

Or is all of this that censored shit?
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legolas0008
07/20/17 10:02:05 PM
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The anus is left uncensored until/unless used in a sexual manner, since it's not innately a sexual organ. Watch for that next time.
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Link HT
07/20/17 10:03:27 PM
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It's because porn is technically illegal in Japan. Not even porn, just "indecent" content or some shit.
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MC_BatCommander
07/20/17 10:04:33 PM
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No, what a fucking shocking revelation
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SwordMaster13X
07/20/17 10:06:35 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Axiom posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
It has to do with laws drawn up after World War 2 by the US. Everyone has an anus, so I guess they don't care about showing it.

This. I'm pretty sure I remember reading an article that said it's actually legal to do unpixelated work now but it's basically taboo in the industry after so long so no one wants be the first to do it


According to wikipedia, it's still illegal. Pubic hair depiction was illegal until the mid-90s. As a side note and huge mind-blow, production of child porn was legal until 1999 and possession of it was legal until 2014.


Now this is more mind blowing then censored vaginas. o_O
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Axiom
07/20/17 10:07:32 PM
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After looking into it a little more I think I know what the article was saying. This all comes from the interpretation of Article 175 of Japanese law that is extremely vague as to what constitutes obscenity. So basically if they actually wanted to they could easily interpret the law differently and allow unpixelated porn. It's just that no one wants to. At least that's my guess
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Twin3Turbo
07/20/17 10:08:24 PM
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As a side note and huge mind-blow, production of child porn was legal until 1999 and possession of it was legal until 2014.


If this is true, I'm not the slightest bit surprised
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ChromaticAngel
07/20/17 10:10:25 PM
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Flermin posted...
so basically no one really fucking knows

wouldnt it be some law? probably something on the books just saying you can't show it without censoring.


the obscenity laws in Japan say "You're allowed to have obscene things but they have to be censored" and that includes all depictions of genitals. It was a huge fucking deal a few years back that they were able to get pictures of fully nude adults uncensored into a medical text book.

But the laws used to be a lot more strict than that. You used to not be allowed to show pubic hair at all, and if you shot porn, you had to be shaved. They lifted that restriction. In animated porn, you weren't allowed to draw genitals so older stuff (from like 70s) has all kind of convenient censoring as well as the fabled "invisible penis that can only be seen by the silhouette of saliva" and through some oversight the ban on drawing penises didn't include tentacle monsters so that's how that happened. Both of those restrictions also got lifted, but they still became subject to the censoring law.

Porn produced in Japan that is not intended to be sold in Japan at all doesn't have to be censored. I.e. if you make porn exclusively for international audiences, it's a loophole around the censoring law, but it becomes hard to market it to Japanese citizens.

The reason the censors are still in place these days are two-fold.

1. The biggest reason is because the Yakuza has a monopoly on uncensored porn black market and it makes them ridiculous fucking money. A lot of that money is spent bribing politicians to keep the censors illegal every time someone starts a movement to repeal it.

2. A lot of popular japanese porn stars, mostly women, say that they will quit if the censors are removed because they like how the censors "leave some things to the imagination" so the porn industry in japan isn't pushing as hard to get the censors removed as they would otherwise be.
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Twin3Turbo
07/20/17 10:10:59 PM
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Axiom posted...
After looking into it a little more I think I know what the article was saying. This all comes from the interpretation of Article 175 of Japanese law that is extremely vague as to what constitutes obscenity. So basically if they actually wanted to they could easily interpret the law differently and allow unpixelated porn. It's just that no one wants to. At least that's my guess

Funny how @ChromaticAngel was just talking about the use of the word "obscene" in laws being too ambiguous in that CP topic.
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ChromaticAngel
07/20/17 10:12:45 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
Axiom posted...
After looking into it a little more I think I know what the article was saying. This all comes from the interpretation of Article 175 of Japanese law that is extremely vague as to what constitutes obscenity. So basically if they actually wanted to they could easily interpret the law differently and allow unpixelated porn. It's just that no one wants to. At least that's my guess

Funny how @ChromaticAngel was just talking about the use of the word "obscene" in laws being too ambiguous in that CP topic.

Yep. USA is the one that put that law there after WW2, basically. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.

I may be biased because I want uncensored japanese porn, however.
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TheMarthKoopa
07/20/17 10:13:54 PM
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I've watched Gravure where the actress would shove her butthole right into the camera, but their nipples and vaginas would always be covered

Seemed weird
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Axiom
07/20/17 10:16:54 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
Axiom posted...
After looking into it a little more I think I know what the article was saying. This all comes from the interpretation of Article 175 of Japanese law that is extremely vague as to what constitutes obscenity. So basically if they actually wanted to they could easily interpret the law differently and allow unpixelated porn. It's just that no one wants to. At least that's my guess

Funny how ChromaticAngel was just talking about the use of the word "obscene" in laws being too ambiguous in that CP topic.

Yep. USA is the one that put that law there after WW2, basically. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.

I may be biased because I want uncensored japanese porn, however.

Heh I've actually gotten used to the pixels. Well most of the time. Some older ones pixelate to the point of covering the ass which is my favorite part and a deal breaker >_>
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AbstraktProfSC2
07/20/17 10:24:14 PM
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Link HT posted...
It's because porn is technically illegal in Japan. Not even porn, just "indecent" content or some shit.

lol wut
They got boobie mags in gas stations and porn in vending machines everywhere
they also show boobies on late night public tv. like on basic cable shit. not like our HBO
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WesternMedia
07/20/17 10:31:43 PM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
Link HT posted...
It's because porn is technically illegal in Japan. Not even porn, just "indecent" content or some shit.

lol wut
They got boobie mags in gas stations and porn in vending machines everywhere
they also show boobies on late night public tv. like on basic cable shit. not like our HBO

Do you have first hand knowledge of this or did you get this info from online videos and blogs
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/20/17 10:32:14 PM
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I think it's just illegal to show genitals or something, which is why they censor vaginas and dongs. Now censoring nipples...That's the first I've ever heard of an incident like that, Japan or otherwise.
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Turbam
07/20/17 10:32:55 PM
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The will censor the anus if its being stimulated.
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Link HT
07/21/17 12:29:51 PM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
Link HT posted...
It's because porn is technically illegal in Japan. Not even porn, just "indecent" content or some shit.

lol wut
They got boobie mags in gas stations and porn in vending machines everywhere
they also show boobies on late night public tv. like on basic cable shit. not like our HBO

Boobs are fine, genitalia is not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_Japan#Censorship_laws
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weapon_d00d816
07/21/17 12:37:12 PM
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I don't understand why Japanese porn has a market to begin with when the internet is absolutely loaded with uncensored porn from all over.
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action52
07/21/17 12:51:53 PM
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xyphilia posted...
But they don't similarly pixelate the anus. Fucking lol Japan. What is this country sometimes.

You think that's fucked up, I remember about 10 years ago when I used to regularly see bestiality videos on the shelves in adult shops. The woman's genitals were pixelated, but the dog's junk was completely uncensored.
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The Deadpool
07/21/17 12:53:07 PM
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That's what caused the rise in animated porn: it wasn't censored...
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Kaname_Madoka
07/21/17 12:53:26 PM
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The Deadpool posted...
That's what caused the rise in animated porn: it wasn't censored...

wrong
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ExMechaGodzilla
07/21/17 2:05:23 PM
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WesternMedia posted...
AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
Link HT posted...
It's because porn is technically illegal in Japan. Not even porn, just "indecent" content or some shit.

lol wut
They got boobie mags in gas stations and porn in vending machines everywhere
they also show boobies on late night public tv. like on basic cable shit. not like our HBO

Do you have first hand knowledge of this or did you get this info from online videos and blogs

I can agree with him as someone who visited Japan and saw porn everywhere
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divot1338
07/21/17 2:11:05 PM
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Oh black rectangle. Why must thou obscure my view?
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Flermin
07/21/17 2:12:38 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Porn produced in Japan that is not intended to be sold in Japan at all doesn't have to be censored. I.e. if you make porn exclusively for international audiences, it's a loophole around the censoring law, but it becomes hard to market it to Japanese citizens.

totally, i've seen some of those JAV vids uncensored for this reason
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AwesomeOSauce
07/21/17 2:13:15 PM
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xyphilia posted...
But they don't similarly pixelate the anus. Fucking lol Japan. What is this country sometimes.



They do now where do you live? The got severly fined in 2016 for trying to get easy on the censors.
Now everyone is scared.

Tape and censor mosaic pixelation is what they use now. penis, vagina and anus. Also further pixelation of the area when there is penetration.
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Sexypwnstar
07/21/17 2:15:31 PM
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Uncensored Japanese porn is so fucking good
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Questionmarktarius
07/21/17 2:16:43 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
Uncensored Japanese porn is so fucking good

It is?
All of I've seen just seems like nobody involved actually wants to be there.
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Lonestar2000
07/22/17 7:44:17 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
I don't understand why Japanese porn has a market to begin with when the internet is absolutely loaded with uncensored porn from all over.

Japanese porn actresses are pretty fucking hot.
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Kanaya413
07/22/17 7:47:10 AM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
The Deadpool posted...
That's what caused the rise in animated porn: it wasn't censored...

wrong

It's a shame because hentai is the best porn ;(
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DocileOrangeCup
07/22/17 7:57:51 AM
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i wish they'd uncensor stuff. imagine hentai nowadays with that animation quality and no censors
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Kaname_Madoka
07/22/17 1:04:47 PM
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Kanaya413 posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
The Deadpool posted...
That's what caused the rise in animated porn: it wasn't censored...

wrong

It's a shame because hentai is the best porn ;(

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xyphilia
07/24/17 1:21:47 AM
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I've always remarked on the irony between hentai and live action japanese porn. With hentai the women describe everything that's happening to them in the course of sex, the whole hips moving on their own, feeling good inside, etc that's always super hilarious and erotic in its absurdity.

But with live action japanese porn? The women never talk at all, just whining like a race car engine and crying and being incredibly unappealing. They don't even say a few words most of the time like kimchi or whatever.

Always found that odd since both forms of porn are from the same culture.
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xyphilia
07/26/17 2:37:41 AM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
i wish they'd uncensor stuff. imagine hentai nowadays with that animation quality and no censors

Yeah but the design has been crap for ages
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AbstraktProfSC2
07/26/17 3:10:13 AM
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ExMechaGodzilla posted...
WesternMedia posted...
AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
Link HT posted...
It's because porn is technically illegal in Japan. Not even porn, just "indecent" content or some shit.

lol wut
They got boobie mags in gas stations and porn in vending machines everywhere
they also show boobies on late night public tv. like on basic cable shit. not like our HBO

Do you have first hand knowledge of this or did you get this info from online videos and blogs

I can agree with him as someone who visited Japan and saw porn everywhere

First hand knowledge. I lived there for seven years
You can buy vibrators, porn DVDs and "used" panties in vending machines
TV only showed boobs and butts from what I saw.
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