Poll of the Day > Why do you think Conservatives are afraid of CHANGE???

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It's one of the main reasons why many conservatives are not "progressives" because they don't like change and rather everything stay the same as it was in the 50's....

especially when it comes to marriage definition, race/gender changes in entertainment or social attitudes...

Why do you think they hate change? let's see what people think why that is

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I hate forced changes. The natural order is for the strong to thrive and the weak to be absorbed. We (Canada) artificially bolstered multiculturalism under Pierre Trudeau, because he was a hippie and forced an agenda, and nobody really wanted it. Now there's no identity here other than "bend over and take it."
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The post title is:

Why do you think Conservatives are afraid of CHANGE???

and the last line of the description is

Why do you think they hate change? let's see what people think why that is

but the poll question is

Are you afraid of change in society?

Foolish poll is foolish.
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Not afraid of change. I am, however, afraid of blindly turning over seemingly every aspect of our lives to government, which is pretty much the left's platform in a nutshell.

The greatest change and progress the world has ever seen was the formation of America. And we have a movement that is dead set on tearing down every institution that has made it great.

Why is the left afraid of self-reliance and responsibility, and the idea that what you have worked hard for should not be the property of government?

Plz ban this shitposter
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I'm not afraid of change, so much as I am not overly fond of it. Not all change is good, after all
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mrduckbear posted...

It's one of the main reasons why many conservatives are not "progressives" because they don't like change and rather everything stay the same as it was in the 50's....

...what? Stay off the drugs, Ducky. It's really hurting your "job" performance.

mrduckbear posted...

Why do you think they hate change? let's see what people think why that is

And yet it's liberals complaining about all the changes that Trump is trying to make. Might as well ask why liberals hate change. Not to mention how much they talk about climate change =p
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Because they don't like the idea of anything challenging their traditional views of dominance by the white Christian patriarchy.
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gguirao posted...

Because they don't like the idea of anything challenging their traditional views of dominance by the white Christian patriarchy.

Did you really have to necro-bump a dead troll topic to hysterically claim that? =p
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What you call progressive others call regressive.
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TC doesn't know what a conservative is.
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Politicians need to lose power

it's obvious the requirements to become one aren't strict enough
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mastermix3000 posted...

Politicians need to lose power

it's obvious the requirements to become one aren't strict enough

You can blame democratic systems where the voting is left open to the general public or you can blame the general public for being awful. Granted, the public education system and government services account for a lot of the awfulness of the public which, in turn, are implemented by the politicians voted in so it's a kinda shitty circle.
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Hey duckbear, how long have you been sticking with this exact same shtick? Where's your change?!
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mrduckbear posted...

Why do you think Conservatives are afraid of CHANGE???

Because the odds of making positive changes are generally low, and it's easy to make horrible changes that sound good on paper to nitwits.
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I mean, that's pretty much the definition of "conservative." If you promote change, you can't really be considered conservative.
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adjl posted...

I mean, that's pretty much the definition of "conservative." If you promote change, you can't really be considered conservative.

Except for the fact that conservatives are the ones promoting the most change, including getting rid of the IRS and welfare programs.
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Zeus posted...

adjl posted...

I mean, that's pretty much the definition of "conservative." If you promote change, you can't really be considered conservative.

Except for the fact that conservatives are the ones promoting the most change, including getting rid of the IRS and welfare programs.

Reverting changes that have already been made that they didn't like doesn't really count as making their own change. There's some grey area there where, if a change has been around for long enough to become thoroughly entrenched as the status quo, reverting it would qualify as making a change of its own, but I think it's reasonable to say that when people promoting the reversion can remember a time before what they're reverting was in place, it doesn't count as promoting change. I'd say that's an okay place to draw the line.

That, and the definition of "conservative" means that, when what they're promoting does qualify as a change of its own, they aren't being conservative. That's a small c/big C sort of distinction, since naming political alignments with terms that have meanings of their own just confuses everything.
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adjl posted...

Zeus posted...

adjl posted...

I mean, that's pretty much the definition of "conservative." If you promote change, you can't really be considered conservative.

Except for the fact that conservatives are the ones promoting the most change, including getting rid of the IRS and welfare programs.

Reverting changes that have already been made that they didn't like doesn't really count as making their own change. There's some grey area there where, if a change has been around for long enough to become thoroughly entrenched as the status quo, reverting it would qualify as making a change of its own, but I think it's reasonable to say that when people promoting the reversion can remember a time before what they're reverting was in place, it doesn't count as promoting change. I'd say that's an okay place to draw the line.

That, and the definition of "conservative" means that, when what they're promoting does qualify as a change of its own, they aren't being conservative. That's a small c/big C sort of distinction, since naming political alignments with terms that have meanings of their own just confuses everything.

If reverting change doesn't count as change, then literally everything liberals are doing today and working towards isn't change. Keep in mind that socialism was the ORIGINAL system. The idea of individual property -- the basis for human prosperity -- came much later. However, by your standard of "if people can't remember" means that you're really bad at math, considering the IRS was formed in 1862 so not one person is alive to remember a time before that. Likewise, most people today weren't alive when most of the welfare programs first went in and even many of the older ones were still very young when these systems first appeared meaning they can't really remember a time before.

And no, you can CAN promote change while being conservative. You can even promote drastic changes. Why? Because conservative doesn't merely mean keeping things the way they are, but promoting things like tradition. Putting the pledge of allegiance into US schools was a big change, for instance, but it was one that played to tradition. And if we passed laws restricting clothing on the basis of modesty, that would be a very conservative law despite being a change.

Also, by your "logic," if a liberal undid a law, they'd become a conservative. >_>
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Zeus posted...

Keep in mind that socialism was the ORIGINAL system. The idea of individual property -- the basis for human prosperity -- came much later.

dafuq?
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Zeus posted...

changes that Trump is trying to make

because his changes are blatant , promote only hatred, and isolate cultures from each other.

also the way hes changing things are changing things bacwards... hes basically trying to change things back to how they were before progression....

changing back to a de-evolutionized society is not change.. .and most definitely not good change.
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Zeus posted...

And yet it's liberals complaining about all the changes that Trump is trying to make. Might as well ask why liberals hate change. Not to mention how much they talk about climate change =p

Coming back to this now, and how Trump has pretty much prevented people who are trans from serving in the military, I think they're sorta right to complain a little.
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Why do liberals say they hate and are distrustful of big government but also support having the government run and regulate everything?
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Is it really progressive change when the ideas are old, tired and have proven to cause poverty and starvation?

Why do liberals like the TC not understand incentives or read history?
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TreGooda posted...

Is it really progressive change when the ideas are old, tired and have proven to cause poverty and starvation?

Why do liberals like the TC not understand incentives or read history?

Exactly. "Change" is pretty overrated when stuff we had like education or healthcare used to work pretty damn well before needless meddling for the sake of change
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The kind of change we've been seeing lately I'm definitely against. The "Progressive" movement ran out of actual good causes to champion and have moved on to...

- Normalization of Pedophillia (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/salon-removes-pro-pedophilia-articles-written-todd-nickerson-website/)

- Sexualization of children (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/24/public-school-sex-ed-class-could-teach-on-oral-sex-and-bestiality_n_1028670.html)

- Kids aren't old enough to drink, smoke, or vote, but by god they're old enough to pick their gender despite the fact there are drastic and permanent health issues caused by gender reassignment processes.

- Pretending certain cultures are compatible with our Western culture when they clearly are not. Have a look at Europe and to a far lesser extent the US.

Those are just a few of the "changes" Progressives want to make to our country that will certainly ruin it. It's a pattern that stretches back to the dawn of time. Cultures emerge, they grow strong, and then they degenerate into debauchery because they're bored. It's something we need to avoid for the sake of future generations.
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Lightning Bolt posted...

Zeus posted...

Keep in mind that socialism was the ORIGINAL system. The idea of individual property -- the basis for human prosperity -- came much later.

dafuq?

History, bro. Collectivism can only take a society so far.

ZaruenKosai posted...

Zeus posted...

changes that Trump is trying to make

because his changes are blatant , promote only hatred, and isolate cultures from each other.

also the way hes changing things are changing things bacwards... hes basically trying to change things back to how they were before progression....

changing back to a de-evolutionized society is not change.. .and most definitely not good change.

lolwut? You're complaining that he's "de-evolving society" while promoting policies which bring us back to a paleolithic society.
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