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darkprince45 07/14/17 3:30:05 PM #1: |
I'm not even white but I don't need other minority characters that are supposed to be different in the original source material
Don't pander to me, just stay true to the source. What would the outrage be if they made a Blade movie and Blade was a white dude? --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chill02 07/14/17 3:31:18 PM #2: |
Michael Jordan's a man, dude
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darkphoenix181 07/14/17 3:32:28 PM #4: |
might made more sense to have mj a white redhead but make a new latina character who steals spiderman's eye
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LightHawKnight 07/14/17 3:35:59 PM #5: |
I feel that Laura Harrier's character should have been MJ instead. If only for she is more like what MJ is than Zendaya's character was.
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Mernardi 07/14/17 3:40:03 PM #6: |
They never said she was Mary Jay Watson. Just MJ.
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DarthAragorn 07/14/17 3:40:23 PM #7: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
might made more sense to have mj a white redhead but make a new latina character who steals spiderman's eye I would have been perfectly fine with an original character love interest of any race. Just... Don't change established ones. --- Who fears to walk upon the grass? But it is the grass that hides the viper from his enemies and shelters him until he strikes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 07/14/17 3:41:53 PM #8: |
Preach! I'm getting tired of Hollywood shoehorning.
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Mernardi 07/14/17 3:42:24 PM #9: |
Is this a secret "I don't like black people in my movies" topic
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UnholyMudcrab 07/14/17 3:42:40 PM #10: |
Oh look, it's this topic again
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creativerealms 07/14/17 3:43:36 PM #11: |
It's not racist at all.
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The Top Crusader 07/14/17 3:44:10 PM #12: |
Yeah... I feel like the red hair is more important than the skin color.
But as has been said, this "MJ" is named Michelle, not Mary Jane, so meh. Well, even if she was officially Mary Jane, I don't care enough to get riled up about it, but still I like characters to be the characters they are supposed to be. Regardless of looks, her personality was WAY off from Mary Jane. --- -- - ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rikiaz 07/14/17 3:45:35 PM #13: |
DarthAragorn posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...might made more sense to have mj a white redhead but make a new latina character who steals spiderman's eye They aren't. This is a new character named Michele. Her nickname being MJ is more of an easter egg. She isn't Mary Jane. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 07/14/17 3:47:21 PM #14: |
Mernardi posted...
Is this a secret "I don't like black people in my movies" topic No wtf. I'm hyped for black panther and I love Luke cage, easily one of my favorite mcu series --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Haldol 07/14/17 3:54:33 PM #15: |
Not racist at all. I'm black and I hate when they turn random characters black just to be "inclusive". Just make new black characters
That said. This is not Mary Jay. It's a new character, like pretty much all of them in the movie. It's a different universe, so it's cool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 07/14/17 3:55:28 PM #16: |
She can dye her hair red like the other actresses if it so important tbh. I don't feel it is, but it is possible.
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creativerealms 07/14/17 3:57:48 PM #17: |
Haldol posted...
Not racist at all. I'm black and I hate when they turn random characters black just to be "inclusive". Just make new black characters But when they make new characters then people go, "why did they make this new character? Where is so and so from the comics." Of course what homecoming did was worse as it made new characters and called them comic book characters. --- when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 07/14/17 4:01:08 PM #18: |
chill02 posted...
Michael Jordan's a man, dude --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/14/17 4:07:46 PM #20: |
I don't understand why people get upset over things like this, but never bat an eye when it comes to movies like The Great Wall, or Gods of Egypt
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 4:08:02 PM #21: |
It isn't. People like to project.
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 4:09:28 PM #22: |
Mernardi posted...
They never said she was Mary Jay Watson. Just MJ. Because you aren't a fan of Spider-Man. I'm pretty tired of people without vested interests trying to dictate what is or isn't acceptable in things like the Marvel universe. Some people need to keep their mouths shut. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/14/17 4:17:09 PM #23: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Mernardi posted...They never said she was Mary Jay Watson. Just MJ. Spider-Man is literally my favorite superhero, and has been since I was a little kid And even I agree with his post No one gives a shit if they change the color of someone's skin in a movie that's set in a completely different universe anyway --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 07/14/17 4:19:34 PM #24: |
If we can switch up Adrian Tombs' backstory as the Vulture and reinterpret a couple other members of the will be Sinister Six, we can certainly reinterpret MJ. And this character's name isn't even the same. Like how is this even applicable?
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 4:33:39 PM #25: |
Samurontai posted...
No one gives a shit if they change the color of someone's skin in a movie that's set in a completely different universe anyway Plenty of people give a shit that Zendaya is a pure bastardization of an iconic comic character. hollow_shrine posted... And this character's name isn't even the same. Literally MJ. What? You think they're going to introduce two MJ's? --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz2017 07/14/17 4:34:26 PM #26: |
Michael Jackson was 3/4 there
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Samurontai 07/14/17 4:35:51 PM #27: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Samurontai posted...No one gives a shit if they change the color of someone's skin in a movie that's set in a completely different universe anyway You're right, I'm sorry Nobody but salty comic fanboys care about the skin of the character --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaname_Madoka 07/14/17 4:36:04 PM #28: |
michael jordon is a black man
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YoshitoKikuchi 07/14/17 4:37:08 PM #29: |
How did people react to Iris West's casting?
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 4:38:19 PM #30: |
Samurontai posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...Samurontai posted... It's not even her skin. It's her backwards personality. I'm holding out hope that they do a 180 and have a modeling agency discover her in HS, but trying to discredit the opinions of the people most familiar with the source material by calling them comic nerds makes you look absolutely stupid. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/14/17 4:43:19 PM #31: |
It wouldn't bother me but they went out of their way to race change as many people as possible.
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Samurontai 07/14/17 4:46:43 PM #32: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Samurontai posted...Deadpool_18 posted...Samurontai posted... It really doesn't make me look stupid when the only people who care about it are comic nerds tbh Most people don't give a shit, and thought they were all great --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 4:50:44 PM #33: |
Samurontai posted...
It really doesn't make me look stupid No, it does. Wanting your favorite series to stay somewhat true to the source material isn't racist and it isn't weird that it matters to the fans. I distinctly remember you throwing a bitch fit over Scarlett Jo in Ghost In The Shell, so this is especially humorous for me. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/14/17 4:53:23 PM #34: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Samurontai posted...It really doesn't make me look stupid No it's just stupid to complain about something that is loosely based off the source material And what the hell are you talking about? I was doing the complete opposite in regards to the Scar Jo ordeal lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 07/14/17 4:56:43 PM #35: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Samurontai posted...No one gives a shit if they change the color of someone's skin in a movie that's set in a completely different universe anyway Don't be dense. Comic MJ is short for Mary Jane. The intitials 'MJ' could be anything, as the rest of the topic has pointed out. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 14 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 4:56:46 PM #36: |
Samurontai posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...Samurontai posted... Well now that it's convenient for you to take that stance, of course you're going to claim the opposite. It's not stupid. At all. I loved the movie, but Flash's casting is a mistake and Zendaya doesn't display any traits of the iconic MJ. A simple name switch would have gone a long, long way. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 5:01:59 PM #37: |
hollow_shrine posted...
Don't be dense. I'm not. The argument of "It's not the same name" while having the exact initials of the intended character is simply irrelevant. I loved the movie, but you guys acting like it was without its flaws are just laughable. Tom Holland was perfect in every way, but the supporting cast needs work. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 07/14/17 5:03:19 PM #38: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Zendaya doesn't display any traits of the iconic MJ I disagree. I can certainly see shades of some of Mary Jane's more glib moments in Zendaya's MJ. I want to see their banter in the next movie once she's less of a supporting cast member and more center stage. And that's assuming they don't throw us a curveball and introduce Gwen. Deadpool_18 posted... I'm not. The argument of "It's not the same name" while having the exact initials of the intended character is simply irrelevant. I loved the movie, but you guys acting like it was without its flaws are just laughable. Tom Holland was perfect in every way, but the supporting cast needs work. Who needed work? Okay Aunt May didn't have enough to do here, but they've fixed that. Even the Prowler got it some really good moments, and he's just an easter egg. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 14 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 07/14/17 5:04:15 PM #39: |
smh
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Dash_Harber 07/14/17 5:05:29 PM #40: |
Yet not a single topic when Ben Urich was cast as black, despite being white in the comics. So it's important to look like the comics when it's a main character, but it's okay for minor characters to be black, eh?
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Samurontai 07/14/17 5:05:44 PM #41: |
I never said it was without its flaws lmao
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 5:06:09 PM #42: |
hollow_shrine posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...Zendaya doesn't display any traits of the iconic MJ I can see how she could develop into the MJ from the comics, fur sure, but she didn't resemble her much at all in the movie, imo. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 07/14/17 5:10:01 PM #43: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
I can see how she could develop into the MJ from the comics, fur sure, but she didn't resemble her much at all in the movie, imo. I don't think Michelle has any interest in fashion or acting. It's not present in her characterization thus far. She also doesn't have Aunt Anna acting as her harbinger, and needling Aunt May and Peter about taking her daughter out on a blind date. Beyond their conversation dynamic, I don't ever see Michelle moving any closer to Mary Jane from the comics. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 14 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 5:11:25 PM #44: |
hollow_shrine posted...
Who needed work? Flash, particularly. Flash isn't a rival. He's a bully. They got a few things right, but he needed to be meaner. Samurontai posted... It's just such a dumb thing to get upset about Your first mistake was assuming I was outraged by it. I'm not. I'm hopeful. I just know it could have been a lot better had they either introduced Zendaya as her own, new, independent character rather than tacking on the iconic initials that greatly imply fairly important details in the universe. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Deadpool 07/14/17 5:12:02 PM #45: |
No one seemed annoyed about Ned Leeds or Betty Brant or Adrian Toomes or any of the many changes they made...
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 5:12:36 PM #46: |
hollow_shrine posted...
I don't think Michelle has any interest in fashion or acting. Well she's 15 and they quite obviously downplayed her looks the entire movie. I see some sort of drastic makeover coming. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/14/17 5:12:48 PM #47: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
hollow_shrine posted...Who needed work? Fair enough Maybe she just does indeed share the same initials as Mary Jane and a sequel will show her full name or some shit Stay hopeful --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 07/14/17 5:14:37 PM #48: |
Samurontai posted...
Deadpool_18 posted... Fingers crossed, bruh. Even if they develop her further into someone that simply motivates Peter between right and wrong and makes his choices clearer, I'll take her as MJ. If she even utters the words "Go get em, Tiger." I'll take her. I just NEED some resemblances, lol. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 07/14/17 5:42:34 PM #49: |
The MCU isn't the main 616 universe it's the 19999 universe. It's supposed to be different.
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--kresnik-- 07/14/17 5:44:51 PM #50: |
I agree. Little Ophan Annie? Spider-Man's woman? Come on.
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Haldol 07/14/17 7:31:44 PM #51: |
creativerealms posted...
Haldol posted...Not racist at all. I'm black and I hate when they turn random characters black just to be "inclusive". Just make new black characters Not always. If it's a good character then people will except it. If it's Just a racialzed character then they probably would have that reaction But personally, I don't care if Mary Jay is in it or not. I honestly think she's a dumb bitch (especially Gwyneth Paltrows version). A fresh new character/love interest is welcome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline_Heart 07/14/17 7:33:19 PM #52: |
Haldol posted...
creativerealms posted...Haldol posted...Not racist at all. I'm black and I hate when they turn random characters black just to be "inclusive". Just make new black characters Her name is Mary Jane. And she was never played by Gwenyth Paltrow --- Stay woke. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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