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Feline_Heart 07/15/17 7:42:51 PM #103:	Dyinglegacy posted... It bugged me that Aunt May wasn't an elderly old women. 50 is elderly --- Stay woke. <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:882980717] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>It bugged me that Aunt May wasn't an elderly old women.</quote> 50 is elderly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/15/17 7:45:19 PM #104:	Feline_Heart posted... Dyinglegacy posted... It bugged me that Aunt May wasn't an elderly old women. 50 is elderly I know you knew what I meant. Typical elderly, feeble old woman. Fuck. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:882980848] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>It bugged me that Aunt May wasn't an elderly old women.</quote> 50 is elderly</quote> I know you knew what I meant. Typical elderly, feeble old woman. Fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/15/17 7:47:57 PM #105:	Also, you'd have be in pretty damn bad shape to be considered "elderly" at 50. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:882980996] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>Also, you'd have be in pretty damn bad shape to be considered "elderly" at 50.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 07/15/17 7:49:52 PM #106:	Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:882981093] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/15/17 7:51:24 PM #107:	YookaLaylee posted... Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged Don't know. Ask the creators behind Aunt May. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:882981171] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote>Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged</quote> Don't know. Ask the creators behind Aunt May.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 07/15/17 8:03:06 PM #108:	Dyinglegacy posted... YookaLaylee posted... Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged Don't know. Ask the creators behind Aunt May. She's drawn as roughly 50 in the Lee/Ditko era too... Thing is, those comics are from the 60s so she looks like a 50-year-old did in the 60s... The outfit and the hair all remind you of your great grandparents now, but not really then... --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:882981762] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote>Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged</quote> Don't know. Ask the creators behind Aunt May.</quote> She's drawn as roughly 50 in the Lee/Ditko era too... Thing is, those comics are from the 60s so she looks like a 50-year-old did in the 60s... The outfit and the hair all remind you of your great grandparents now, but not really then...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/15/17 8:07:28 PM #109:	The Deadpool posted... Dyinglegacy posted... YookaLaylee posted... Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged Don't know. Ask the creators behind Aunt May. She's drawn as roughly 50 in the Lee/Ditko era too... Thing is, those comics are from the 60s so she looks like a 50-year-old did in the 60s... The outfit and the hair all remind you of your great grandparents now, but not really then... I just googled "aunt may first appearance", and this was the result I got. Not sure if accurate. https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/the-stan-lee-wikia/images/0/05/6755675445356.png/revision/latest?cb=20141005023055 --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:882981985] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote>Why would a teenager have an aunt who is old enough to be his grandmother? It makes much more sense for her to be middle aged</quote> Don't know. Ask the creators behind Aunt May.</quote> She's drawn as roughly 50 in the Lee/Ditko era too... Thing is, those comics are from the 60s so she looks like a 50-year-old did in the 60s... The outfit and the hair all remind you of your great grandparents now, but not really then...</quote> I just googled "aunt may first appearance", and this was the result I got. Not sure if accurate. https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/the-stan-lee-wikia/images/0/05/6755675445356.png/revision/latest?cb=20141005023055</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/15/17 8:09:08 PM #110:	That damn sure doesn't look 50 to me, even for back in the 60s. As I said, though, that might not be accurate. Anyway, all that being said. I still prefer familiar depiction of characters, as how I know them. But, hey, fuck it, right? --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:882982079] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>That damn sure doesn't look 50 to me, even for back in the 60s. As I said, though, that might not be accurate. Anyway, all that being said. I still prefer familiar depiction of characters, as how I know them. But, hey, fuck it, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 07/15/17 8:11:42 PM #111:	Its actually racist to replace her with a non white girl without red hair because her features were already established as that. Just like it was racist when the Matt Groening turned Smithers white <cite>L0Z posted [p:882982216] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>Its actually racist to replace her with a non white girl without red hair because her features were already established as that. Just like it was racist when the Matt Groening turned Smithers white</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaoticKnuckles 07/15/17 11:59:19 PM #112:	Skye Reynolds posted... ChaoticKnuckles posted... Aside from the fact that people in charge actually said "Yes he's the same character" and the people in charge at Marvel said "No she's not the same character". When Mary Jane Watson shows up, I'll believe that his MJ is a different MJ. It's just like Mandarin not being the real Mandarin. You may as well say that Nick Fury isn't the real Nick Fury. Horrible examples. Marvel has already said that Nick Fury IS Nick Fury and that the movie Mandarin was an actor and not the real Mandarin. Again, you're reaching for things to get mad about. She isn't Mary Jane. Deal with it. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. <cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted [p:882993721] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted...</cite> <quote>Aside from the fact that people in charge actually said "Yes he's the same character" and the people in charge at Marvel said "No she's not the same character".</quote> When Mary Jane Watson shows up, I'll believe that his MJ is a different MJ. It's just like Mandarin not being the real Mandarin. You may as well say that Nick Fury isn't the real Nick Fury.</quote> Horrible examples. Marvel has already said that Nick Fury IS Nick Fury and that the movie Mandarin was an actor and not the real Mandarin. Again, you're reaching for things to get mad about. She isn't Mary Jane. Deal with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/16/17 12:31:56 AM #113:	If a producer said that Peter Parker was Batman on the side, would you take that as something that was canon, but couldn't be shown for copyright reasons? If Mary Jane Watson shows up in the next Spider-Man film, I'll accept that MJ is just a shout-out. The same goes for the Mandarin twist and that scene that was only on the home video version of the film. We've got a Santa Claus flying to and from the North Pole on the screen and you're telling me after the fact that they're just some mall Santa and the real one hasn't shown up yet. If she's not MJ, there's no reason to call her MJ. As soon as people get used to her as a character, they'll confirm that she is Mary Jane Watson. As for the Mandarin, they don't care. The "real" one is never gonna show, so that makes Kingsley's character the real one by default. If you're an Elvis impersonator in a universe that has never had an Elvis Presley, that makes you the one and only Elvis to that universe. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:882994989] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>If a producer said that Peter Parker was Batman on the side, would you take that as something that was canon, but couldn't be shown for copyright reasons? If Mary Jane Watson shows up in the next Spider-Man film, I'll accept that MJ is just a shout-out. The same goes for the Mandarin twist and that scene that was only on the home video version of the film. We've got a Santa Claus flying to and from the North Pole on the screen and you're telling me after the fact that they're just some mall Santa and the real one hasn't shown up yet. If she's not MJ, there's no reason to call her MJ. As soon as people get used to her as a character, they'll confirm that she is Mary Jane Watson. As for the Mandarin, they don't care. The "real" one is never gonna show, so that makes Kingsley's character the real one by default. If you're an Elvis impersonator in a universe that has never had an Elvis Presley, that makes you the one and only Elvis to that universe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaoticKnuckles 07/16/17 11:37:02 AM #114:	Skye Reynolds posted... If a producer said that Peter Parker was Batman on the side, would you take that as something that was canon, but couldn't be shown for copyright reasons? If Mary Jane Watson shows up in the next Spider-Man film, I'll accept that MJ is just a shout-out. The same goes for the Mandarin twist and that scene that was only on the home video version of the film. We've got a Santa Claus flying to and from the North Pole on the screen and you're telling me after the fact that they're just some mall Santa and the real one hasn't shown up yet. If she's not MJ, there's no reason to call her MJ. As soon as people get used to her as a character, they'll confirm that she is Mary Jane Watson. As for the Mandarin, they don't care. The "real" one is never gonna show, so that makes Kingsley's character the real one by default. If you're an Elvis impersonator in a universe that has never had an Elvis Presley, that makes you the one and only Elvis to that universe. Like I said, you're really reaching. Just admit you want to be mad about this even though there's no good reason for it. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. <cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted [p:883012452] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>If a producer said that Peter Parker was Batman on the side, would you take that as something that was canon, but couldn't be shown for copyright reasons? If Mary Jane Watson shows up in the next Spider-Man film, I'll accept that MJ is just a shout-out. The same goes for the Mandarin twist and that scene that was only on the home video version of the film. We've got a Santa Claus flying to and from the North Pole on the screen and you're telling me after the fact that they're just some mall Santa and the real one hasn't shown up yet. If she's not MJ, there's no reason to call her MJ. As soon as people get used to her as a character, they'll confirm that she is Mary Jane Watson. As for the Mandarin, they don't care. The "real" one is never gonna show, so that makes Kingsley's character the real one by default. If you're an Elvis impersonator in a universe that has never had an Elvis Presley, that makes you the one and only Elvis to that universe.</quote> Like I said, you're really reaching. Just admit you want to be mad about this even though there's no good reason for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/16/17 11:48:39 AM #115:	I'm mad about it because I don't trust them when they say "it's just a joke, gaiz." The next movie is going to solidify her as MJ or the one after that. Or a producer will admit in 5 to 10 years when the heat has cooled off that she was Mary Jane. The point is that she's stated to be MJ, so them turning around and saying that she's not means very little. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:883012982] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>I'm mad about it because I don't trust them when they say "it's just a joke, gaiz." The next movie is going to solidify her as MJ or the one after that. Or a producer will admit in 5 to 10 years when the heat has cooled off that she was Mary Jane. The point is that she's stated to be MJ, so them turning around and saying that she's not means very little.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snovvlybub 07/16/17 11:56:43 AM #116:	it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc --- in the back of a long line like always <cite>snovvlybub posted [p:883013329] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaoticKnuckles 07/16/17 11:59:44 AM #117:	M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. Like I said, you're reaching. And you're throwing up these criteria for when it will be "okay" with you which are ridiculous. They may not ever put a white redhead character named Mary Jane Watson in these next couple of Spidey movies that star Tom Holland. That doesn't mean that by default Michelle is Mary Jane simply because they share the same nick name, which has already been confirmed to be simply an homage to the Mary Jane character. My god I'm so tired of "fans" not accepting the fact that they don't dictate what is and isn't canon with these characters. The people in charge do. You might think the decisions that they're making are stupid but you don't get to say "I don't care what they say, this is ACTUALLY what it is!" No it isn't. You're wrong. And no amount of bad analogies on your part are going to make you correct. She has a different name and completely different background than the Mary Jane character. Literally the only thing they have in common is the same initials or the same nick name that her friends call her. The people who are actually behind the movie have said she isn't Mary Jane. Your opinion on it has no bearing on the actual state of the universe they have created. They said it's not her, it's not her. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. <cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted [p:883013451] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. Like I said, you're reaching. And you're throwing up these criteria for when it will be "okay" with you which are ridiculous. They may not ever put a white redhead character named Mary Jane Watson in these next couple of Spidey movies that star Tom Holland. That doesn't mean that by default Michelle is Mary Jane simply because they share the same nick name, which has already been confirmed to be simply an homage to the Mary Jane character. My god I'm so tired of "fans" not accepting the fact that they don't dictate what is and isn't canon with these characters. The people in charge do. You might think the decisions that they're making are stupid but you don't get to say "I don't care what they say, this is ACTUALLY what it is!" No it isn't. You're wrong. And no amount of bad analogies on your part are going to make you correct. She has a different name and completely different background than the Mary Jane character. Literally the only thing they have in common is the same initials or the same nick name that her friends call her. The people who are actually behind the movie have said she isn't Mary Jane. Your opinion on it has no bearing on the actual state of the universe they have created. They said it's not her, it's not her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/16/17 12:00:54 PM #118:	ChaoticKnuckles posted... M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. When speaking of the Spider-Man universe, this is absolutely wrong. Those initials carry heavy association with an iconic character. You don't get to dictate what is and isn't important to the Spider-Man universe when you display a blatant lack of knowledge concerning the source material. They should have just made Michelle her own independent character with no reference to a completely opposite character. Tacking on those initials was a bad call. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:883013510] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted...</cite> <quote> M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. </quote> When speaking of the Spider-Man universe, this is absolutely wrong. Those initials carry heavy association with an iconic character. You don't get to dictate what is and isn't important to the Spider-Man universe when you display a blatant lack of knowledge concerning the source material. They should have just made Michelle her own independent character with no reference to a completely opposite character. Tacking on those initials was a bad call.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanielCormier 07/16/17 12:04:07 PM #119:	White characters can generally be played by non-white actors without issue. Nothing is hurt or lost by deviating from the source material since the Mary Jane character isn't about her whiteness. --- http://i.imgur.com/YmrwIJx.jpg <cite>DanielCormier posted [p:883013637] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>White characters can generally be played by non-white actors without issue. Nothing is hurt or lost by deviating from the source material since the Mary Jane character isn't about her whiteness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snovvlybub 07/16/17 12:04:40 PM #120:	DanielCormier posted... White characters can generally be played by non-white actors without issue. Nothing is hurt or lost by deviating from the source material since the Mary Jane character isn't about her whiteness. --- in the back of a long line like always <cite>snovvlybub posted [p:883013656] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>DanielCormier posted...</cite> <quote>White characters can generally be played by non-white actors without issue. Nothing is hurt or lost by deviating from the source material since the Mary Jane character isn't about her whiteness.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaoticKnuckles 07/16/17 12:05:50 PM #121:	Deadpool_18 posted... ChaoticKnuckles posted... M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. When speaking of the Spider-Man universe, this is absolutely wrong. No it's not. I realize that for fans simply hearing those two letters make them think of a specific character but the character is much more than just the nick name and you know it. The producers of the movie have already explained why they threw it in there. It's an homage. That's it. People assumed she was Mary Jane for months and so they're still mad now even when it's been confirmed that she isn't Mary Jane. That's all this is. That's why there's so much reaching to try to say she is Mary Jane even when she's been confirmed to not be. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. <cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted [p:883013706] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted...</cite> <quote>M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. </quote> When speaking of the Spider-Man universe, this is absolutely wrong.</quote> No it's not. I realize that for fans simply hearing those two letters make them think of a specific character but the character is much more than just the nick name and you know it. The producers of the movie have already explained why they threw it in there. It's an homage. That's it. People assumed she was Mary Jane for months and so they're still mad now even when it's been confirmed that she isn't Mary Jane. That's all this is. That's why there's so much reaching to try to say she is Mary Jane even when she's been confirmed to not be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaoticKnuckles 07/16/17 12:11:43 PM #122:	Deadpool_18 posted... ChaoticKnuckles posted... M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. When speaking of the Spider-Man universe, this is absolutely wrong. Those initials carry heavy association with an iconic character. You don't get to dictate what is and isn't important to the Spider-Man universe when you display a blatant lack of knowledge concerning the source material. They should have just made Michelle her own independent character with no reference to a completely opposite character. Tacking on those initials was a bad call. I'm not arguing whether or not it was a smart thing to do. What I'm saying is that she is not Mary Jane so getting mad about her not being a white redhead is dumb. And please don't presume how much I do or don't know about the source material, I've been reading Spidey comics since I could read. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. <cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted [p:883013963] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted...</cite> <quote> M.J. is a nick name dude. Nothing more. </quote> When speaking of the Spider-Man universe, this is absolutely wrong. Those initials carry heavy association with an iconic character. You don't get to dictate what is and isn't important to the Spider-Man universe when you display a blatant lack of knowledge concerning the source material. They should have just made Michelle her own independent character with no reference to a completely opposite character. Tacking on those initials was a bad call.</quote> I'm not arguing whether or not it was a smart thing to do. What I'm saying is that she is not Mary Jane so getting mad about her not being a white redhead is dumb. And please don't presume how much I do or don't know about the source material, I've been reading Spidey comics since I could read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/16/17 12:13:03 PM #123:	ChaoticKnuckles posted... And please don't presume how much I do or don't know about the source material, I've been reading Spidey comics since I could read. Fair enough. I apologize. Still, they shouldn't have given her association with MJ when they were clearly going the other direction. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:883014035] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted...</cite> <quote> And please don't presume how much I do or don't know about the source material, I've been reading Spidey comics since I could read.</quote> Fair enough. I apologize. Still, they shouldn't have given her association with MJ when they were clearly going the other direction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaoticKnuckles 07/16/17 12:20:33 PM #124:	Deadpool_18 posted... ChaoticKnuckles posted... And please don't presume how much I do or don't know about the source material, I've been reading Spidey comics since I could read. Fair enough. I apologize. No worries. I honestly would agree with you on one of your points. I don't think it was the smartest thing for them to associate her with the Mary Jane character at all, but what's done is done. I think these movies make stupid decisions fairly regularly but I'm just over fans saying that something established by the people in charge of the product somehow doesn't count just because they don't like it. Saying something like "She's Mary Jane until I say otherwise" is just ridiculous. Over the years the people behind these characters have made some AWFUL decisions. But canon is canon. If the guy writing a comic and the editor in charge of everything says things are a certain way, that's how they are until someone retcons it. It is what it is. As comic book fans we should all be used to that by now. So I'm just kind of over seeing people get all upset over this sort of thing. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. <cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted [p:883014353] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaoticKnuckles posted...</cite> <quote>And please don't presume how much I do or don't know about the source material, I've been reading Spidey comics since I could read.</quote> Fair enough. I apologize.</quote> No worries. I honestly would agree with you on one of your points. I don't think it was the smartest thing for them to associate her with the Mary Jane character at all, but what's done is done. I think these movies make stupid decisions fairly regularly but I'm just over fans saying that something established by the people in charge of the product somehow doesn't count just because they don't like it. Saying something like "She's Mary Jane until I say otherwise" is just ridiculous. Over the years the people behind these characters have made some AWFUL decisions. But canon is canon. If the guy writing a comic and the editor in charge of everything says things are a certain way, that's how they are until someone retcons it. It is what it is. As comic book fans we should all be used to that by now. So I'm just kind of over seeing people get all upset over this sort of thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 07/16/17 12:46:48 PM #125:	Yeah, I'm of the mindset that if she really is not Mary Jane, they shouldn't have thrown that little "my friends call me MJ" bit. But if they say she's not Mary Jane, I'm gonna believe them unless they change their minds. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:883015485] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I'm of the mindset that if she really is not Mary Jane, they shouldn't have thrown that little "my friends call me MJ" bit. But if they say she's not Mary Jane, I'm gonna believe them unless they change their minds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twinmold 07/16/17 1:39:54 PM #126:	I know! If I just say I'm not racist, they won't think I'm racist! I'm a genius! --- Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain <cite>Twinmold posted [p:883018081] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>I know! If I just say I'm not racist, they won't think I'm racist! I'm a genius!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 07/16/17 1:51:51 PM #127:	Twinmold posted... I know! If I just say I'm not racist, they won't think I'm racist! I'm a genius! we all know it's not officially racist unless someone calls somebody the N word. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:883018715] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twinmold posted...</cite> <quote>I know! If I just say I'm not racist, they won't think I'm racist! I'm a genius!</quote> we all know it's not officially racist unless someone calls somebody the N word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/16/17 2:01:10 PM #128:	snovvlybub posted... it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:883019234] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote>it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc</quote> Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snovvlybub 07/16/17 2:18:59 PM #129:	Skye Reynolds posted... snovvlybub posted... it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people --- in the back of a long line like always <cite>snovvlybub posted [p:883020186] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote>it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc</quote> Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing?</quote> in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/16/17 2:19:46 PM #130:	snovvlybub posted... Skye Reynolds posted... snovvlybub posted... it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people -_- --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:883020231] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote> it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc </quote> Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing?</quote> in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people</quote> -_-</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snovvlybub 07/16/17 3:42:24 PM #131:	Deadpool_18 posted... snovvlybub posted... Skye Reynolds posted... snovvlybub posted... it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people -_- u good? --- in the back of a long line like always <cite>snovvlybub posted [p:883024726] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote> it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc </quote> Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing?</quote> in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people</quote> -_-</quote> u good?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 07/16/17 4:26:18 PM #132:	I just like it when characters stay true to their classic selves, as I know them. Don't care about everyone else. I mean, I don't go around making topics about it, or anything, nor do I complain verbally to complete strangers. I'm in this topic now, because I'm at work, and bored. I do kinda smirk, though, when I think about a character who's almost always/always depicted as a different ethnicity, other than white, and then they are shown as white in a movie. I laugh at the absurdity of the shitstorms that flow from something like that, but then those same type of shitstorms aren't allowed when vice versa happens. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:883027060] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>I just like it when characters stay true to their classic selves, as I know them. Don't care about everyone else. I mean, I don't go around making topics about it, or anything, nor do I complain verbally to complete strangers. I'm in this topic now, because I'm at work, and bored. I do kinda smirk, though, when I think about a character who's almost always/always depicted as a different ethnicity, other than white, and then they are shown as white in a movie. I laugh at the absurdity of the shitstorms that flow from something like that, but then those same type of shitstorms aren't allowed when vice versa happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB mofo 07/16/17 4:40:24 PM #133:	I have this feeling they just added the line that her nickname is MJ to prevent people from constantly asking when is Mary Jane Watson going to show up. It's like what happened with the Garfield movies, where you had this large group waiting for Mary Jane to be introduced. --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB mofo posted [p:883027804] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote>I have this feeling they just added the line that her nickname is MJ to prevent people from constantly asking when is Mary Jane Watson going to show up. It's like what happened with the Garfield movies, where you had this large group waiting for Mary Jane to be introduced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/16/17 4:48:00 PM #134:	snovvlybub posted... Deadpool_18 posted... snovvlybub posted... Skye Reynolds posted... snovvlybub posted... it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people -_- u good? Better than some. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:883028212] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote> it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc </quote> Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? </quote> in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people </quote> -_-</quote> u good?</quote> Better than some.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snovvlybub 07/16/17 4:52:17 PM #135:	Deadpool_18 posted... snovvlybub posted... Deadpool_18 posted... snovvlybub posted... Skye Reynolds posted... snovvlybub posted... it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people -_- u good? Better than some. oo do tell --- in the back of a long line like always <cite>snovvlybub posted [p:883028467] in Why is it ... [t:75565186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>snovvlybub posted...</cite> <quote> it's not like mj being white is essential to her character lmao anyway im glad whoever casted this didn't bend over backwards to pander to white people like most of hollywood does re: ghost in the shell, the great wall, gods of egypt, fantastic beasts, la la land, etc etc etc </quote> Fantastic Beasts had whitewashing? </quote> in the same vein as la la land, they took the black harlemesque experience and filled it with white people </quote> -_-</quote> u good?</quote> Better than some.</quote> oo do tell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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