Poll of the Day > Just out of curiosity, will Trump ever move beyond the whole election fiasco?

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WastelandCowboy
07/11/17 8:38:38 PM
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He won. Hillary lost. It's over. He's President of the United States of America for the next four years. You'd think he would've moved on by now and be focused on fulfilling his campaign promises, like most other presidents. Yet, we keep hearing the same old broken record about Hillary's emails, Obama's former governance and subsequent actions, and the Russia/Putin hacking. Frankly, I'm bored to death of it.

Furthermore, I'm tired of hearing about CNN, "Mainstream Media", and "Fake News". I don't care anymore. The only news I give an inkling of attention to, in regards to news, is anything on NPR and a few select local news channels. I don't even care anymore about having to decipher which article is real and which is false or decoding biased articles. The world is shit anyway.

I want to hear something different. Something that I can care and/or discuss about.

Furthermore, how long do you think it'll be before everyone else moves past the election, its results, and Trump? Four years - end of his presidency, assuming it's only one term? Eight years - at the end of the next president's supposed first/final term? Twelve? Sixteen? Will I have to keep hearing people bitch and moan about it in the year 2050?
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Zeus
07/11/17 8:42:17 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
You'd think he would've moved on by now and be focused on fulfilling his campaign promises, like most other presidents.


Which he's blocked on doing at every turn. Travel ban? Blocked. Healthcare reform? Not happening. Wall? He's hit a wall.

WastelandCowboy posted...
Obama's former governance


Given that Obama complained about GWB for 8 years, you can hardly knock Trump for complaining for just a few months ago far.

WastelandCowboy posted...
the Russia/Putin hacking.


Blame the media for that.

WastelandCowboy posted...
Furthermore, how long do you think it'll be before everyone else moves past the election, its results, and Trump?


Considering that people like to embrace the fake rigged election narrative to justify in their minds Trump's win, probably never?
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Doctor Foxx
07/11/17 8:43:34 PM
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Wow that's like a new speed record
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WastelandCowboy
07/11/17 8:52:06 PM
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Zeus posted...
Which he's blocked on doing at every turn. Travel ban? Blocked. Healthcare reform? Not happening. Wall? He's hit a wall.

So focus on something else? Is his presidential agenda that limited that he only has three items he wants to do in his four years?

Zeus posted...
Given that Obama complained about GWB for 8 years, you can hardly knock Trump for complaining for just a few months ago far.

Do you have any basis or references for this? I mean, shit, why do I even have to ask at this point?

Zeus posted...
Blame the media for that.

So prove it. Allow a full investigation to show everyone, once and for all, that these claims are baseless. He's basically just saying "Nuh-uh. Not true. You're fake anyway. Blah blah blah."

Zeus posted...
Considering that people like to embrace the fake rigged election narrative to justify in their minds Trump's win, probably never?

A win that was completely out of their control? He won the electoral vote. Not the popular vote. No matter how they try to spin it, it was out of their control from the start.
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WastelandCowboy
07/11/17 8:53:46 PM
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Kungfu Kenobi
07/11/17 8:55:28 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
Is his presidential agenda that limited that he only has three items he wants to do in his four years?


How high do you think he can count?
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Doctor Foxx
07/11/17 9:04:22 PM
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
Is his presidential agenda that limited that he only has three items he wants to do in his four years?


How high do you think he can count?

how many fingers does he have on each hand?
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Erik_P
07/11/17 9:04:31 PM
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Which he's blocked on doing at every turn. Travel ban? Blocked. Healthcare reform? Not happening. Wall? He's hit a wall.


When you keep on saying you want to ban Muslims from entering the country during the campaign and then write up an EO when you're elected that bans Muslims from entering the country nobody is going to believe you when you claim it isn't a Muslim ban.

Healthcare reform is really a tax break for the rich and a death sentence for a portion of 22 million people on the ACA.

We need money to build the wall. We don't have the money. Besides, it won't stop drugs or illegal immigrants from getting here so it's a gigantic waste of money.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
07/11/17 9:24:52 PM
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Pretty sure it's the Democrats that will never move beyond it.
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Kungfu Kenobi
07/11/17 9:34:42 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
Is his presidential agenda that limited that he only has three items he wants to do in his four years?


How high do you think he can count?

how many fingers does he have on each hand?


Whoa there, let's see if he can count them all on one hand first. xp
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Doctor Foxx
07/11/17 9:36:59 PM
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
Is his presidential agenda that limited that he only has three items he wants to do in his four years?


How high do you think he can count?

how many fingers does he have on each hand?


Whoa there, let's see if he can count them all on one hand first. xp

Well i mean a person could be missing a finger on a hand, or have an extra finger. Never know what hand is being used or if it's the six-fingered man
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Lobomoon
07/12/17 8:39:36 PM
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Trump Moved - The Mainstream Media hasn't...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9fq3BljjKo

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Zeus
07/12/17 8:53:37 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...

So focus on something else? Is his presidential agenda that limited that he only has three items he wants to do in his four years?


He is also working on other things (such as re-negotiating deals), but those were 3 of his biggest campaign promises. However, no matter what he works on, he's going to face unprecedented obstruction. Even his SCOTUS pick got filibustered.

WastelandCowboy posted...
Do you have any basis or references for this? I mean, shit, why do I even have to ask at this point?


It's like asking somebody to confirm that air still exists. You can walk outside your house for that. However, keep in mind that it was a LARGE part of his re-election campaign, including his silly "truck" metaphor he kept using.

WastelandCowboy posted...
So prove it. Allow a full investigation to show everyone, once and for all, that these claims are baseless. He's basically just saying "Nuh-uh. Not true. You're fake anyway. Blah blah blah."


...you mean the investigation literally going on right now? And while NOBODY running an investigation has accused Trump of any complicity -- not James Comey, etc -- that hasn't stopped the media from claiming it. The media literally does not care about facts.

WastelandCowboy posted...
A win that was completely out of their control? He won the electoral vote. Not the popular vote. No matter how they try to spin it, it was out of their control from the start.


Actually, it was completely within their control unless you're arguing that their votes only count when it's for the winning candidate, which is would be Erik levels of nonsense. Likewise, a hardy hearty LOL @ the claim that Trump had the election in the bag before any votes were cast, given that his win wasn't that huge and almost every source predicted a Hillary win.
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JixHedgehog
07/12/17 8:59:29 PM
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*sigh*

Not as long as the cry babies have something to say about it
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Mead
07/12/17 9:07:51 PM
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Zeus posted...
he's going to face unprecedented obstruction. Even his SCOTUS pick got filibustered.


Stop and ponder about this one for a bit bud
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Lobomoon
07/12/17 9:11:26 PM
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Mead posted...
Zeus posted...
he's going to face unprecedented obstruction. Even his SCOTUS pick got filibustered.


Stop and ponder about this one for a bit bud


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FrozenBananas
07/12/17 9:13:21 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Pretty sure it's the Democrats that will never move beyond it.


As much as I dislike Trump, this is the case as well. Both sides are whiny babies that won't let anything go.
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WastelandCowboy
07/12/17 11:00:39 PM
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Zeus posted...
He is also working on other things (such as re-negotiating deals), but those were 3 of his biggest campaign promises. However, no matter what he works on, he's going to face unprecedented obstruction. Even his SCOTUS pick got filibustered.

Re-negotiating which deals?

Is this "obstruction" really that "unprecedented"? People will do anything to preserve a way of life.

Who? Neil Gorsuch?

Zeus posted...
It's like asking somebody to confirm that air still exists. You can walk outside your house for that. However, keep in mind that it was a LARGE part of his re-election campaign, including his silly "truck" metaphor he kept using.

So, no sources? And that's nothing like "asking somebody to confirm that air still exists".

It wasn't a "silly metaphor". It made sense. Under Bush's administration, the country entered one of the worst economic recessions in history - equivalent to driving a car into a ditch. (And by the way, yes, it was a car, not a truck). Obama's administration got the country (and the car) out of the ditch, all the while everyone else just asked them to hurry faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AofWhwUSdFc


Zeus posted...
you mean the investigation literally going on right now? And while NOBODY running an investigation has accused Trump of any complicity -- not James Comey, etc -- that hasn't stopped the media from claiming it. The media literally does not care about facts.

Yes, the current investigation. I'd be surprised if Trump stands by and lets the investigators have full access and not complain about it.

You're saying this as if all media are the same. Maybe it's news to you, but the media doesn't just consist of CNN and FOX News. CBS, ABC, NBC, etc. And before you complain, not all of these examples are the same as CNN.

Zeus posted...
Actually, it was completely within their control unless you're arguing that their votes only count when it's for the winning candidate, which is would be Erik levels of nonsense. Likewise, a hardy hearty LOL @ the claim that Trump had the election in the bag before any votes were cast, given that his win wasn't that huge and almost every source predicted a Hillary win.

Now you're comparing me to Erik? What the hell dude.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/12/20/why-electoral-college-landslides-are-easier-to-win-than-popular-vote-ones/

For the fifth time in U.S. history, and the second time this century, a presidential candidate has won the White House while losing the popular vote.

In this week’s Electoral College balloting, Donald Trump won 304 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton’s 227, with five Democratic and two Republican “faithless electors” voting for other people. That result was despite the fact that Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more popular votes than Trump in November’s election, according to Pew Research Center’s tabulation of state election results. Our tally shows Clinton won 65.8 million votes (48.25%) to almost 63 million (46.15%) for Trump, with minor-party and independent candidates taking the rest.


Trump won because states with key electoral votes voted in his favor. Hillary won the popular vote, like I just told you.

No, I, like many others, knew Trump would win. I hoped I would be wrong, but surprise.

Like George Carlin said, in the same video I posted that you haven't yet responded to (for god only knows why), voting is meaningless.

Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish and ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish and ignorant politicians.
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WastelandCowboy
07/12/17 11:02:14 PM
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I will add, that, in regards to the whole "Obama's administration got the country out of the recession", it wasn't entirely his administration. But the point still stands. His administration got the wheels going.
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CyborgSage00x0
07/12/17 11:20:25 PM
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No. Even if it came out that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with Russian collusion (and option that has vanished as of just yesterday), pretty much his entire administration has in some form at this point. And as long as they are around, their shady associations with the Russians will be a sticking point.

Basically, after the FBI investigation (or hell, maybe before), only impeachment or firing of many in his inner circle will make this scandal go away. It's pretty much all Trump will be known for at this point.
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Smarkil
07/13/17 1:39:31 AM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
You'd think he would've moved on by now


Yes. It's Trump that is guilty of this. Not 50% of the population and most of the media outlets.

Only Trump.
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Conner4REAL
07/13/17 2:01:12 AM
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Trump won't stop or let it go because his own bruised ego can't accept that the majority of this country didn't want him as president, he won by the technical machinations of the electoral college.

Winning the presidency wasnt enough- he has a psychological need to think he's right even when he is clearly not- this is most highlighted by his past when taking losses he still makes an excuse to himself it's a win.

This is so basic in his character that you can see it in his whole presidency and comments he makes and makes up.

Regardless what you think of him or his presidency that's a basic point blank observation of how he acts based on his own words and conduct and both.

That's why he won't let the election go because numbers don't lie so he needs to validate to him self Wild ideas on how he can claim to win by popularity. Even though he did actually win the presidency according to the system we have in place.
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Erik_P
07/13/17 5:51:16 AM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
I will add, that, in regards to the whole "Obama's administration got the country out of the recession", it wasn't entirely his administration. But the point still stands. His administration got the wheels going.


What are you talking about? It was entirely Obama that got us out of that recession. It wasn't Bush; he got us into it and it sure as fuck wasn't Trump because the country had rebounded long before he decided to run for president.
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JOExHIGASHI
07/13/17 6:16:41 AM
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nope

he'll hold more rallies so that people will vote for him in November 8, 2016
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InfernalFive
07/13/17 6:25:01 AM
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Smarkil posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
You'd think he would've moved on by now


Yes. It's Trump that is guilty of this. Not 50% of the population and most of the media outlets.

Only Trump.

Seriously. Thinking it's solely Trump's fault is just downright ignorant.
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Peterass
07/13/17 8:55:43 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Pretty sure it's the Democrats that will never move beyond it


For real. They are the only ones who keep whining and looking for reasons why they lost. Never mind being a party that stands for nothing and has no vision.
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SmokeMassTree
07/13/17 9:09:42 AM
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Yes, it's absolutely trump holding onto the election. Definitely not the biased media
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Erik_P
07/13/17 9:31:27 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
Yes, it's absolutely trump holding onto the election. Definitely not the biased media


I can always post all the tweets from Trump talking about the election if you like.

Oh and there's also the fact that he has a map of his electoral college victory hanging on the wall of the WH.

Peterass posted...
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Pretty sure it's the Democrats that will never move beyond it


For real. They are the only ones who keep whining and looking for reasons why they lost. Never mind being a party that stands for nothing and has no vision.


Could you provide evidence of Dems whining about losing?
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Lightning Bolt
07/13/17 9:42:19 AM
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Not likely. He's not fit for the job, and so he's making no progress at it.
Until he actually does anything, the most recent news about him will always be the election.
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Peterass
07/13/17 9:57:18 AM
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Erik_P posted...

Could you provide evidence of Dems whining about losing?


Cnn.com
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Erik_P
07/13/17 12:39:58 PM
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Peterass posted...
Erik_P posted...

Could you provide evidence of Dems whining about losing?


Cnn.com


Gonna need something more specific.
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Smarkil
07/13/17 12:42:17 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Peterass posted...
Erik_P posted...

Could you provide evidence of Dems whining about losing?


Cnn.com


Gonna need something more specific.


You could try looking back at the 95% of the things you post.
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Erik_P
07/13/17 12:53:59 PM
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Smarkil posted...
Erik_P posted...
Peterass posted...
Erik_P posted...

Could you provide evidence of Dems whining about losing?


Cnn.com


Gonna need something more specific.


You could try looking back at the 95% of the things you post.


So you don't have anything specific either. Because I post about the latest stupid shit Trump does, not the election.
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