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darkphoenix181
07/11/17 12:59:05 PM
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oh no we need to be stronger but don't have much time?
oh wait, it just so happens there is a place where you can train for years in minutes

oh no, the enemy is really strong
oh wait, everytime I get beat up I get stronger so I am stronger now

noo you beat me!
JK not even my final form!

dang I died
JK dragonsballs yo
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Veggeta X
07/11/17 1:01:01 PM
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And that's what makes it so great.
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Returning_CEmen
07/11/17 1:01:03 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
noo you beat me!
JK not even my final form!

This is my favorite, literally makes the last 3 episodes pointless lol.
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voldothegr8
07/11/17 1:01:49 PM
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Naruto
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MrStabbath
07/11/17 1:02:35 PM
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yeah super is pretty silly with the endings.
beerus arc > super saiyan GOD (though i guess that was the whole point of the arc. seemed silly at the time though. meh.)
freeza arc > whis time reverse
champa tournament arc > hit would've won but he throws the last match
zamasu arc > zeno button
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Veggeta X
07/11/17 1:03:06 PM
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Bleach was were worst lmao!

I need to get stronger so I will take off my eyepatch. I need to get stronger so I'll use two hands instead of one now.
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3khc
07/11/17 1:03:17 PM
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With A little tweaking and focus, the entire Dragon Ball series could be rewritten as an actual cohesive story.
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Megaman50100
07/11/17 1:03:43 PM
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Zamasu arc did it the worst.

Goku and crew fail and literally get the supreme god to show up and take care of it
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Xelltrix
07/11/17 1:06:32 PM
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Well yeah, Z is pretty terrible with that. Didn't really care as a kid but it's far too blatant to ignore entirely as an adult.
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 1:07:24 PM
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The only thing that I really hate is the thing where you get beat up and come back even stronger. That is just piss poor writing. If that was really something there would be no way the saiyans would ever have been subjugated. And the only time it was really used was to explain Vegeta's power jumps on Namek.
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CapnMuffin
07/11/17 1:08:39 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
Zamasu arc did it the worst.

Goku and crew fail and literally get the supreme god to show up and take care of it

Yeah it was a literal waste of time.

Trunks could have gone to the past and asked Whis to help him get to a future before everthing happened--basically what they did at the end of the arc. Boom. Then he just has to duke it out with his past self or Mai gets double the Trunks. ;)
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darkphoenix181
07/11/17 1:09:20 PM
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oops I forgot

last fight was really taxing! my opponent was strong and now I must face a more powerful one after being beaten to a bloody pulp! what will I do!?!?

oh wait, I eat a bean and instantly cured of all wounds and recharged!
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BMXJouster
07/11/17 1:15:10 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPhv_Ll-BzA

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scar the 1
07/11/17 1:17:32 PM
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Only one of the things in the OP is deus ex machina. Guess which one.
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darkphoenix181
07/11/17 1:21:54 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
Only one of the things in the OP is deus ex machina. Guess which one.


your mom
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scar the 1
07/11/17 1:23:25 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Only one of the things in the OP is deus ex machina. Guess which one.


your mom

Wrong, try again
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 1:29:08 PM
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scar the 1 posted...

Wrong, try again


Why don't you just tell us which ones you think are wrong ?
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scar the 1
07/11/17 1:37:05 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
scar the 1 posted...

Wrong, try again


Why don't you just tell us which ones you think are wrong ?

DEM is when a problem seems insurmountable and it's solved by something that hasn't been mentioned earlier at all. Like it's God stepping down from heaven granting a solution. Zenkai is mentioned really early on in the Freeza saga, Freeza's final form is hinted at (and even if it wasn't, DEM doesn't apply to the actual obstacles the protagonists face). Dragonballs fulfilling any wish is literally the setup of the series. It'd be like saying that the Ring making people invisible in LotR is DEM.
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pikachupwnage
07/11/17 1:39:53 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
scar the 1 posted...

Wrong, try again


Why don't you just tell us which ones you think are wrong ?

DEM is when a problem seems insurmountable and it's solved by something that hasn't been mentioned earlier at all. Like it's God stepping down from heaven granting a solution. Zenkai is mentioned really early on in the Freeza saga, Freeza's final form is hinted at (and even if it wasn't, DEM doesn't apply to the actual obstacles the protagonists face). Dragonballs fulfilling any wish is literally the setup of the series. It'd be like saying that the Ring making people invisible in LotR is DEM.


Yup.

Zeno button was introduced earlier.

You can call it shity writing but it was not Deus Ex Machina. If Zeno showed up having not been introduced or foreshadowed that would have been DEM.
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 1:41:34 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
scar the 1 posted...

Wrong, try again


Why don't you just tell us which ones you think are wrong ?

DEM is when a problem seems insurmountable and it's solved by something that hasn't been mentioned earlier at all. Like it's God stepping down from heaven granting a solution. Zenkai is mentioned really early on in the Freeza saga, Freeza's final form is hinted at (and even if it wasn't, DEM doesn't apply to the actual obstacles the protagonists face). Dragonballs fulfilling any wish is literally the setup of the series. It'd be like saying that the Ring making people invisible in LotR is DEM.


We had years of DB and DBZ, then Zenkai just come up in one arc when they need them beat the bad guy. When Tao he trained to get better. When Vegeta got beat by zarbon. This magic new skill let him beat him back.
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voldothegr8
07/11/17 1:56:53 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
Zamasu arc did it the worst.

Goku and crew fail and literally get the supreme god to show up and take care of it

The manga is a much better ending to his demise.
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scar the 1
07/11/17 2:41:26 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
We had years of DB and DBZ, then Zenkai just come up in one arc when they need them beat the bad guy. When Tao he trained to get better. When Vegeta got beat by zarbon. This magic new skill let him beat him back.

The zenkai was introduced as soon as Vegeta stepped out of the medical tank. It can be shitty, inconsistent and arbitrary without being DEM.
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