o Respected Mexican is DEPORTED after 29 YEARS as TRUMP ordered him OUT!!

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mrduckbear 07/09/17 11:49:55 PM #1:	Do you think Andres should have been deported? Yes No View Results 43 y/o Respected Coffee Farmer Andres Magana Ortiz from Hawaii was forced to leave his wife and 3 children and return to Mexico after living in the US for 28 years!! He came to America illegally when he was 15 with his mother and moved to hawaii to pick coffee as a migrant worker. Now he's one of the most respected coffee farmers in the Kona district He's been trying to get legal citizenship and his wife and daughter both filed for permission to let him stay as the relative of a ctizien and even had Hawaii's congressional delegation try to intervenet but the Department of Homeland Security ordered him OUT by March After his lawyer appealed the order he was ordered to leave again but granted a 30 day reprieve and agreed to leave voluntarily after the agreement could not be reached.. He left Hawaii on Friday night and even paid for his own tickets out to a country where he no longer has family.. His 20 y/o daughter, Victoria Magana Ledesma said "We said our goodbyes at home. My dad decided it was better for my brother and my sister to not go all the way to the airport" Andres said "Very, very sad and very disappointed in many ways but there's not much i can do. Just follow what i have to do and hopefully in a little bit, things can get better" His family is still fighting to get back as his case gained national attention when a 9th US Circuit Judge criticized the Trump administration for deporting him after Trump said there was "bad hombres" in America that have to go....obviously his family said he was not one of them. Do you think he should have been deported? Andres and his family - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B915100000578-4679606-image-a-28_1499612200185.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B915500000578-4679606-image-a-29_1499612209902.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/16/422B85AF00000578-4679606-image-a-48_1499612402609.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B84A700000578-4679606-image-m-47_1499612380501.jpg Andre leaving - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B846C00000578-4679606-image-a-43_1499612321765.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B844B00000578-4679606-image-m-42_1499612297415.jpg --- Every time a Gamefaqs User PROVES they Stepped on a Bug, i will STOP Posting for 24 Hours...Beware, this is NOT a good thing to do!! <cite>mrduckbear posted [p:882633907] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote> Do you think Andres should have been deported? Yes No View Results 43 y/o Respected Coffee Farmer Andres Magana Ortiz from Hawaii was forced to leave his wife and 3 children and return to Mexico after living in the US for 28 years!! He came to America illegally when he was 15 with his mother and moved to hawaii to pick coffee as a migrant worker. Now he's one of the most respected coffee farmers in the Kona district He's been trying to get legal citizenship and his wife and daughter both filed for permission to let him stay as the relative of a ctizien and even had Hawaii's congressional delegation try to intervenet but the Department of Homeland Security ordered him OUT by March After his lawyer appealed the order he was ordered to leave again but granted a 30 day reprieve and agreed to leave voluntarily after the agreement could not be reached.. He left Hawaii on Friday night and even paid for his own tickets out to a country where he no longer has family.. His 20 y/o daughter, Victoria Magana Ledesma said "We said our goodbyes at home. My dad decided it was better for my brother and my sister to not go all the way to the airport" Andres said "Very, very sad and very disappointed in many ways but there's not much i can do. Just follow what i have to do and hopefully in a little bit, things can get better" His family is still fighting to get back as his case gained national attention when a 9th US Circuit Judge criticized the Trump administration for deporting him after Trump said there was "bad hombres" in America that have to go....obviously his family said he was not one of them. Do you think he should have been deported? Andres and his family - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B915100000578-4679606-image-a-28_1499612200185.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B915500000578-4679606-image-a-29_1499612209902.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/16/422B85AF00000578-4679606-image-a-48_1499612402609.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B84A700000578-4679606-image-m-47_1499612380501.jpg Andre leaving - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B846C00000578-4679606-image-a-43_1499612321765.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B844B00000578-4679606-image-m-42_1499612297415.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 07/09/17 11:51:57 PM #2:	don't let your mom do the crime if you can't handle the time obviously --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:882633993] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>don't let your mom do the crime if you can't handle the time obviously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 07/09/17 11:52:59 PM #3:	See this is why the blanket "FUCK ALL ILLEGALS" rhetoric is BS...he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship......and now that family is being broken up...rather than try to help this man they're just going to kick him back to Mexico....there is a better way....Why Trump and his Admin oppose helping people like this i have no idea.... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:882634042] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>See this is why the blanket "FUCK ALL ILLEGALS" rhetoric is BS...he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship......and now that family is being broken up...rather than try to help this man they're just going to kick him back to Mexico....there is a better way....Why Trump and his Admin oppose helping people like this i have no idea....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/09/17 11:53:20 PM #4:	Why was it so hard for him to get citizenship? --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882634053] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Why was it so hard for him to get citizenship?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/09/17 11:54:42 PM #5:	TheVipaGTS posted... he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship..... So why couldn't he get legal citizenship? --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882634116] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship.....</quote> So why couldn't he get legal citizenship?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/09/17 11:55:18 PM #6:	Why are you still here capitalizing irrelevant words. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:882634144] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Why are you still here capitalizing irrelevant words.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suchomimus 07/09/17 11:55:37 PM #7:	Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen. --- I'm a peasant. <cite>Suchomimus posted [p:882634161] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 07/09/17 11:56:17 PM #8:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship..... So why couldn't he get legal citizenship? Not sure here but its a common story for a lot of people. you know our system for this isn't the best. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:882634199] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship.....</quote> So why couldn't he get legal citizenship?</quote> Not sure here but its a common story for a lot of people. you know our system for this isn't the best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 07/09/17 11:56:51 PM #9:	Nearly 30 years and still no citizenship? Dude you're not even trying. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Devil May Cry HD collection <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:882634223] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Nearly 30 years and still no citizenship? Dude you're not even trying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 07/09/17 11:57:00 PM #10:	Suchomimus posted... Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen. How long on average do you think it takes to go through the citizenship process --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:882634230] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen.</quote> How long on average do you think it takes to go through the citizenship process</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/09/17 11:57:23 PM #11:	TheVipaGTS posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship..... So why couldn't he get legal citizenship? Not sure here but its a common story for a lot of people. you know our system for this isn't the best. I will agree with you there. However, after over 20 years this guy can't get legal citizenship? I see red flags all over the place with that. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882634245] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship.....</quote> So why couldn't he get legal citizenship?</quote> Not sure here but its a common story for a lot of people. you know our system for this isn't the best.</quote> I will agree with you there. However, after over 20 years this guy can't get legal citizenship? I see red flags all over the place with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/09/17 11:58:15 PM #12:	hortanz posted... Suchomimus posted... Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen. How long on average do you think it takes to go through the citizenship process Not even anywhere close to 28 years. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882634286] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>hortanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen.</quote> How long on average do you think it takes to go through the citizenship process</quote> Not even anywhere close to 28 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 07/10/17 12:01:15 AM #13:	28 years is more than enough time to get citizenship. He probably didn't start trying until 6 months ago. Also his mother illegally brought him here knowing the consequences. They've no one to blame but themselves. I do feel sorry for him and his family, especially the children but it's nobody's fault but his own. In 28 years time he should have known this could happen --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:882634412] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>28 years is more than enough time to get citizenship. He probably didn't start trying until 6 months ago. Also his mother illegally brought him here knowing the consequences. They've no one to blame but themselves. I do feel sorry for him and his family, especially the children but it's nobody's fault but his own. In 28 years time he should have known this could happen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 07/10/17 12:02:05 AM #14:	IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:882634444] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 07/10/17 12:02:30 AM #15:	Was he illegal? Oh right --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:882634457] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Was he illegal? Oh right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingGames 07/10/17 12:03:10 AM #16:	mrduckbear posted... He came to America illegally fairest of the next --- https://my.mixtape.moe/hhlayb.jpg <cite>FightingGames posted [p:882634489] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>mrduckbear posted...</cite> <quote>He came to America illegally</quote> fairest of the next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 07/10/17 12:03:39 AM #17:	St0rmFury posted... IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place. then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that.... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:882634511] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place.</quote> then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkeysRfunny 07/10/17 12:04:36 AM #18:	FightingGames posted... mrduckbear posted... He came to America illegally fairest of the next --- The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck. <cite>monkeysRfunny posted [p:882634569] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>FightingGames posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mrduckbear posted...</cite> <quote>He came to America illegally</quote> fairest of the next</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/10/17 12:05:53 AM #19:	TheVipaGTS posted... St0rmFury posted... IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place. then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that.... Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882634634] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place.</quote> then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that....</quote> Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz2017 07/10/17 12:06:34 AM #20:	Suchomimus posted... Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen. --- Hi <cite>Medz2017 posted [p:882634659] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 07/10/17 12:07:52 AM #21:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... St0rmFury posted... IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place. then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that.... Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego. they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:882634713] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place.</quote> then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that....</quote> Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego.</quote> they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/10/17 12:10:52 AM #22:	TheVipaGTS posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... St0rmFury posted... IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place. then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that.... Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego. they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"... Listen, i'm not saying it's not unfortunate that it had to come to this. However, If after 28 years in this country illegally, has he been paying taxes this whole time? I find that hard to believe. So yes, it is a problem and he needs to go. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882634846] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place.</quote> then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that....</quote> Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego.</quote> they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"...</quote> Listen, i'm not saying it's not unfortunate that it had to come to this. However, If after 28 years in this country illegally, has he been paying taxes this whole time? I find that hard to believe. So yes, it is a problem and he needs to go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/10/17 12:12:55 AM #23:	Actually, to be fair. I'd give him a year to get his legal citizenship and he's good. Which is outrageously gracious considering he had 28. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882634947] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Actually, to be fair. I'd give him a year to get his legal citizenship and he's good. Which is outrageously gracious considering he had 28.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teddytalks 07/10/17 12:13:12 AM #24:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... St0rmFury posted... IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place. then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that.... Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego. they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"... Listen, i'm not saying it's not unfortunate that it had to come to this. However, If after 28 years in this country illegally, has he been paying taxes this whole time? I find that hard to believe. So yes, it is a problem and he needs to go. There is a lot of problems in this country. A man living with his wife and kids isn't one of them. if you or anybody else in this topic think it is, then go start building the wall yourselves. <cite>Teddytalks posted [p:882634964] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place.</quote> then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that....</quote> Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego.</quote> they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"...</quote> Listen, i'm not saying it's not unfortunate that it had to come to this. However, If after 28 years in this country illegally, has he been paying taxes this whole time? I find that hard to believe. So yes, it is a problem and he needs to go.</quote> There is a lot of problems in this country. A man living with his wife and kids isn't one of them. if you or anybody else in this topic think it is, then go start building the wall yourselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz2017 07/10/17 12:13:28 AM #25:	He is lucky he is not an illegal immigrant living in Mexico. --- Hi <cite>Medz2017 posted [p:882634978] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>He is lucky he is not an illegal immigrant living in Mexico.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/10/17 12:15:45 AM #26:	Teddytalks posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... St0rmFury posted... IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place. then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that.... Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego. they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"... Listen, i'm not saying it's not unfortunate that it had to come to this. However, If after 28 years in this country illegally, has he been paying taxes this whole time? I find that hard to believe. So yes, it is a problem and he needs to go. There is a lot of problems in this country. A man living with his wife and kids isn't one of them. if you or anybody else in this topic think it is, then go start building the wall yourselves. If that wall does start to go up, rest assured, YOUR tax dollars are going to it too. Unless, ya know.... --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882635093] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Teddytalks posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>IINM he had to go back and remain in Mexico for 10 years before applying for citizenship due to him entering illegally. It really sucks for everyone involved but that's the system the authorities put in place.</quote> then its even more bull shit...Lived here for over 20 years with no problem and now has to live without his wife and kids because his mom tried to do right by him when he was 15...and somehow HE has to suffer for that....</quote> Actually his kids probably have it the worst. But it's nice you look of for numero illego.</quote> they all have it worse...I feel for his family too. Doesn't mean I can't feel sympathy for him too...what did this man do to make you so upset at him? He came to America with his mom at 15. From the sounds of it had no issues here, likely worked, started a family in Hawaii....why are you against helping people like this rather than saying "FUCK THEM ILLEGALS"...</quote> Listen, i'm not saying it's not unfortunate that it had to come to this. However, If after 28 years in this country illegally, has he been paying taxes this whole time? I find that hard to believe. So yes, it is a problem and he needs to go.</quote> There is a lot of problems in this country. A man living with his wife and kids isn't one of them. if you or anybody else in this topic think it is, then go start building the wall yourselves.</quote> If that wall does start to go up, rest assured, YOUR tax dollars are going to it too. Unless, ya know....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 07/10/17 12:17:31 AM #28:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... hortanz posted... Suchomimus posted... Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen. How long on average do you think it takes to go through the citizenship process Not even anywhere close to 28 years. --- Knowledge is power, power corrupts. Study hard and become evil. <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:882635175] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hortanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen.</quote> How long on average do you think it takes to go through the citizenship process</quote> Not even anywhere close to 28 years.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/10/17 12:17:40 AM #29:	28 years. No sympathy. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:882635184] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>28 years. No sympathy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vultis_Zales 07/10/17 12:18:02 AM #30:	I voted no The only argument i could think of is that he had over 20 years to file for citizenship and hasn't. But in this case i feel he should have been allowed to stay give him a work visa or something till he can get citizenship --- when someone brings a rocket launcher to a gunfight, you run the HELL home. <cite>Vultis_Zales posted [p:882635203] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>I voted no The only argument i could think of is that he had over 20 years to file for citizenship and hasn't. But in this case i feel he should have been allowed to stay give him a work visa or something till he can get citizenship</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhettoFlip 07/10/17 12:18:03 AM #31:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... Why was it so hard for him to get citizenship? Suchomimus posted... Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen. scorpion41 posted... Nearly 30 years and still no citizenship? Dude you're not even trying. glitteringfairy posted... 28 years is more than enough time to get citizenship. He probably didn't start trying until 6 months ago. Also his mother illegally brought him here knowing the consequences. They've no one to blame but themselves. I do feel sorry for him and his family, especially the children but it's nobody's fault but his own. In 28 years time he should have known this could happen Are you guys dumb or something? There was no way for him to get citizenship. --- #linning <cite>GhettoFlip posted [p:882635206] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote>Why was it so hard for him to get citizenship?</quote> <cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. He had plenty of time to become a citizen.</quote> <cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>Nearly 30 years and still no citizenship? Dude you're not even trying.</quote> <cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>28 years is more than enough time to get citizenship. He probably didn't start trying until 6 months ago. Also his mother illegally brought him here knowing the consequences. They've no one to blame but themselves. I do feel sorry for him and his family, especially the children but it's nobody's fault but his own. In 28 years time he should have known this could happen</quote> Are you guys dumb or something? There was no way for him to get citizenship.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/10/17 12:18:25 AM #32:	kenio8187 posted... I would think since he got married, that his status would change. Is that not a real thing? My only assumption, after 28 years, he loved our money and our country, but didn't feel like he needed to pay taxes. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882635225] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>kenio8187 posted...</cite> <quote>I would think since he got married, that his status would change. Is that not a real thing?</quote> My only assumption, after 28 years, he loved our money and our country, but didn't feel like he needed to pay taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/10/17 12:19:13 AM #33:	GhettoFlip posted... Are you guys dumb or something? There was no way for him to get citizenship. Yeah but why? --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:882635258] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>GhettoFlip posted...</cite> <quote> Are you guys dumb or something? There was no way for him to get citizenship.</quote> Yeah but why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 07/10/17 12:34:20 AM #34:	If he's been trying for 28 years to get citizenship but the government made too many hoops to jump through for him to ever possibly get it, then deporting him is 100% wrong. If it was possible for him to get citizenship but he simply didn't try hard enough, then unfortunately it's a correct and legal decision. Morally speaking, I don't think he was a threat and shouldn't have been deported regardless of the circumstance. But legally, if him getting citizenship was realistically possible but he didn't, then that's on him. --- "Someday I too will fly... and find you again!" http://i.imgur.com/qFpF3BR.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:882635835] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>If he's been trying for 28 years to get citizenship but the government made too many hoops to jump through for him to ever possibly get it, then deporting him is 100% wrong. If it was possible for him to get citizenship but he simply didn't try hard enough, then unfortunately it's a correct and legal decision. Morally speaking, I don't think he was a threat and shouldn't have been deported regardless of the circumstance. But legally, if him getting citizenship was realistically possible but he didn't, then that's on him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoreRpgs 07/10/17 12:35:39 AM #35:	Get the real criminals out, let this poor man stay <cite>MoreRpgs posted [p:882635899] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Get the real criminals out, let this poor man stay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 07/10/17 12:41:36 AM #36:	kenio8187 posted... I would think since he got married, that his status would change. Is that not a real thing? This Is his wife not a citizen? --- PSN: Jiek <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:882636126] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>kenio8187 posted...</cite> <quote>I would think since he got married, that his status would change. Is that not a real thing?</quote> This Is his wife not a citizen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/10/17 8:22:19 PM #37:	Jiek_Fafn posted... kenio8187 posted... I would think since he got married, that his status would change. Is that not a real thing? This Is his wife not a citizen? yes she is poor guy almost 30 years trying to get citizenship ... --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:882683391] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jiek_Fafn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kenio8187 posted...</cite> <quote>I would think since he got married, that his status would change. Is that not a real thing?</quote> This Is his wife not a citizen?</quote> yes she is poor guy almost 30 years trying to get citizenship ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/10/17 8:24:32 PM #38:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship..... So why couldn't he get legal citizenship? Probably had some priors. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882683546] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship.....</quote> So why couldn't he get legal citizenship?</quote> Probably had some priors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flermin 07/10/17 8:26:50 PM #39:	scumbag trump and scumbag republicans deporting people that have done more than they have their entire lives. <cite>Flermin posted [p:882683662] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>scumbag trump and scumbag republicans deporting people that have done more than they have their entire lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/10/17 8:28:02 PM #40:	Mal_Fet posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship..... So why couldn't he get legal citizenship? Probably had some priors. couldnt find any sources of that --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:882683729] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship.....</quote> So why couldn't he get legal citizenship?</quote> Probably had some priors.</quote> couldnt find any sources of that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/10/17 9:49:36 PM #41:	marc55 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... TheVipaGTS posted... he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship..... So why couldn't he get legal citizenship? Probably had some priors. couldnt find any sources of that It would explain why he couldn't get citizenship for almost 30 years. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882688686] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship.....</quote> So why couldn't he get legal citizenship?</quote> Probably had some priors.</quote> couldnt find any sources of that</quote> It would explain why he couldn't get citizenship for almost 30 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/12/17 5:38:29 PM #42:	Im all for deportation of criminals that don't contribute to American society. However this man has property that he pays taxes for and runs a business that stimulates the American economy. The money he earns goes back into the local economy because thats where he and his family live. Dont be dumb CE. Its counterproductive. (You cant pretend you are all a bunch of angels that never broke the law.) And i didnt vote in this topic because something tells me we are not getting the full story. Whats his criminal history? We cant jump to conclusions because we don't have his criminal history. I can already see both sides defending an argument that fits their narrative. Its pathetic. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:882798046] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Im all for deportation of criminals that don't contribute to American society. However this man has property that he pays taxes for and runs a business that stimulates the American economy. The money he earns goes back into the local economy because thats where he and his family live. Dont be dumb CE. Its counterproductive. (You cant pretend you are all a bunch of angels that never broke the law.) And i didnt vote in this topic because something tells me we are not getting the full story. Whats his criminal history? We cant jump to conclusions because we don't have his criminal history. I can already see both sides defending an argument that fits their narrative. Its pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/12/17 5:43:20 PM #43:	He had two duis. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:882798321] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>He had two duis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 07/12/17 5:48:28 PM #44:	Thanks for protecting us from those dangerous aliens --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:882798594] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Thanks for protecting us from those dangerous aliens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 07/12/17 5:49:52 PM #45:	if a person has a family but refuses to renew the license to their car should they not go to jail because it would separate them from their family? see, you would claim crossing the border is a harmless crime what is the terrible harm of not renewing the license to my vehicle? you understand that not doing that means I will go to jail when caught right? https://www.defensivedriving.com/blog/can-you-get-pulled-over-for-expired-tags/ If you get pulled over twice with registration that is expired by more than six months, you could face stiff penalties as severe as going to jail. More commonly, however, you will be issued a criminal traffic citation and a notice to appear in court. we can pity the man the situation is bad but he literally made his family full well knowing he could be removed any time he still chose to do so regardless --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:882798686] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>if a person has a family but refuses to renew the license to their car should they not go to jail because it would separate them from their family? see, you would claim crossing the border is a harmless crime what is the terrible harm of not renewing the license to my vehicle? you understand that not doing that means I will go to jail when caught right? https://www.defensivedriving.com/blog/can-you-get-pulled-over-for-expired-tags/ <quote>If you get pulled over twice with registration that is expired by more than six months, you could face stiff penalties as severe as going to jail. More commonly, however, you will be issued a criminal traffic citation and a notice to appear in court.</quote> we can pity the man the situation is bad but he literally made his family full well knowing he could be removed any time he still chose to do so regardless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/12/17 5:52:24 PM #46:	And you cant blame this one on Trump. His deportation started under Obama. He had 2 DUIs and no drivers license. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:882798833] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>And you cant blame this one on Trump. His deportation started under Obama. He had 2 DUIs and no drivers license.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HogRiderreturns 07/12/17 6:01:04 PM #47:	TheVipaGTS posted... See this is why the blanket "FUCK ALL ILLEGALS" rhetoric is BS...he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship......and now that family is being broken up...rather than try to help this man they're just going to kick him back to Mexico....there is a better way....Why Trump and his Admin oppose helping people like this i have no idea.... Because liberals just want us to let everyone stay if they are illegal. Instead of trying to compromise you do the same thing the other side does, our way or nothing. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>HogRiderreturns posted [p:882799339] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>See this is why the blanket "FUCK ALL ILLEGALS" rhetoric is BS...he was 15 and came over with his mom. Not a criminal, had a family, that family tried to help him obtain legal citizenship......and now that family is being broken up...rather than try to help this man they're just going to kick him back to Mexico....there is a better way....Why Trump and his Admin oppose helping people like this i have no idea....</quote> Because liberals just want us to let everyone stay if they are illegal. Instead of trying to compromise you do the same thing the other side does, our way or nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/12/17 6:02:07 PM #48:	Without the stress of skirting immigration law, this man probably would not have turned to the bottle and driven those cars. Truly so sad. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:882799400] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote>Without the stress of skirting immigration law, this man probably would not have turned to the bottle and driven those cars. Truly so sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 07/12/17 11:21:51 PM #49:	cerealbox760 posted... And you cant blame this one on Trump. His deportation started under Obama. He had 2 DUIs and no drivers license. Fair, Next. lmao at drunk driving apologists itt. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:882816497] in 43 y/o Res... [t:75548987]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>And you cant blame this one on Trump. His deportation started under Obama. He had 2 DUIs and no drivers license.</quote> Fair, Next. lmao at drunk driving apologists itt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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