Board 8 > Jeff & Leon Save Estelle in the Same House: Homecoming [JZLF]

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Link to the Previous Topic 'Til Purge:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75497095

Previously on Jeff & Leon & Order:




A Special Announcement:
I'm leaving for a few months again around the middle of this month, so this may well be the last JZLF topic for a little while. Combining them all, we're probably up to topic 11 or so at this point, and I want to say thanks to those who have joined us for this latest round. We'll be back.

What's On The Docket:
We're wrapping Psycho-Pass and Eureka Seven and initiating Tales of Symphonia. Leon's replaying Persona 4 and rewatching My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU. I'm rewatching Babylon 5 and hyping up for Games of Thrones Season 7. xp and dowolf and pyre are all chatting Trails as always and I'm Saving Estelle as only I can. We're caught-up on the MCU (Leon was fresh to it all and I hadn't seen Doctor Strange) and attending a showing for Spider-Man: Homecoming soon.

And Now, The Continuation...
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Tag
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I always roll with the all Ace Attorney fan team
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who is the guy that has posted like 100 times about trails in the sky

that guy seems pretty relentless, I'd want him in my party
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Not sure if you mean xp or pyresword since they both apply
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I don't like to vote in things that include myself anyway, so I suppose it doesn't matter which one

also who drew that excellent artworks in the opening post
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that was me, I am Picasso: The College Years
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I make all kinds of original masterpieces in my Babylon 5 rewatch thread


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Rean > Estelle
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why does nobody ever save me?
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JoshuaAstray posted...

why does nobody ever save me?

Don't worry. I only took the Estelle account so Jeff Zero couldn't have it. Joshua is actually my favorite.
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JoshuaAstray posted...

why does nobody ever save me?

Estelle spent dozens of hours saving you!
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LeonhartFour posted...

JoshuaAstray posted...

why does nobody ever save me?

Don't worry. I only took the Estelle account so Jeff Zero couldn't have it. Joshua is actually my favorite.

wanna trade?
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No.
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ninkendo posted...

Rean > Estelle

LeonhartFour posted...

Joshua is actually my favorite.

Wow did this topic start off on a bad note.
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Estelle overrated
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MariaTaylor posted...

I don't like to vote in things that include myself anyway,

Me neither, the choice is too easy
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LeonhartFour posted...

Not sure if you mean xp or pyresword since they both apply

I'm sorry.

I'm really bad at reading subtext and I know it so I try to be open about the fact that if you want to get something across to me like that you should just tell me directly. As it was, I felt like I was probably being prodded to stop, but I couldn't be sure if it was real or my imagination. I tried (and admittedly failed) to cut back, but yeah...

I'm really sorry.
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You don't have to apologize.

I just can't and won't read any of it.
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Oh right, need to transfer my rankings over:

Loved it, seen it more than once

Clannad
Cowboy Bebop
Full Metal Panic!
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Kanon
Kawai Complex Guide to Manors and Hostel Behavior
My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU
Persona 4 The Animation
Sailor Moon
School Rumble
Steins;Gate
The Disappearance of Yuki Nagato
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Toradora!

Really liked it, will watch again

Ace Attorney (when the dub comes out)
Attack on Titan
Baccano
Eureka Seven
Planetes
Psycho-Pass
Usagi Drop
Working!!

Liked it, but probably won't watch again

Air
Azumanga Daioh
Great Teacher Onizuka
Love Hina
Mobile Suit Gundam 00
Ouran High School Host Club
Trigun
Your Lie in April

Didn't like it, definitely won't watch again

Beyond the Boundary
Code Geass
Persona 4 The Golden Animation

Dropped it, never finished

Fullmetal Alchemist
Gurren Lagann
Slayers

Kanon gets a promotion now that I'm finished with it again! Not quite done with Eureka Seven and Psycho-Pass, but I have a feeling that's where they'll rank unless it really goes off the deep end in these last few episodes (which can happen).

New and Improved Female Character Rankings 2.0

Kurisu > Aqua > Mitsuru > Shiori > Namine > Valentine > Elizabeth > Cora
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oh yeah I can't speak for Leon or Jeff but there is generally no subtext in my posts. if I want to say something I just say whatever I am thinking. I wasn't implying you needed to stop or anything, I just thought it was a funny joke basis related to choosing a party member.
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I'm absolutely OK with xp/pyre/dowolf/etc talking Trails all they want and responding to xp's big Trails post near the end of the current/previous/whatever topic is on my queue

But yeah, neither of us can really reply, so it's a bit amusing

I really don't mind at all, I'm glad we have a social group going and I'm gonna miss it while I'm gone from Leonhouse
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Oh, are we talking about Trails characters better than Estelle?

Loewe4 posted...

Oh, are we talking about Trails characters better than Estelle?

No, Loewe, because that would be statistically impossible.
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Now now I am fully willing to consider the possibility that some hypothetical future Trails game could maybe have a character better than Estelle.

Probably not, but you never know!
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Tita Russell
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Tita was amazing in the 3rd honestly. Most improved character without a doubt imo.

Admittedly I think that may also be me underrating her in FC/SC though, in retrospect.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Estelle overrated

Fair, next.
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She's the real reason I'm most excited about Cold Steel III
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pyresword posted...

Now now I am fully willing to consider the possibility that some hypothetical future Trails game could maybe have a character better than Estelle.

Probably not, but you never know!

That's it

pyre, you're in my party for the final battle
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EstelleBright posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Estelle overrated

Fair, next.

Estelle is sad. :O To say such things... I guess it can't be helped. I'm saving Estelle's happiness... Geronimo!!
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Although if they plan on putting estelle in Cold Steel 3 I wouldn't be against that either but I hope they keep her a secret I don't know how they handled it for Trails to azure
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lmao rean get out of here

(I like Rean but Estelle and Kevin too powerful)
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Dudes a total pimp
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Did he actually? People like to make jokes about Joker doing the same, but he never actually does...
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Rean's harem is the largest I have ever seen in just about anything to be quite honest.
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Unfair for Joker because he only had one game while rean has had three games to essentially get every important woman in erebonia
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As if Rean only limits himself to the important women in Erebonia.

Rean x Vivi for life.
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excuse me are you implying vivi is not important
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I knew what kind of ride I was in for when within 15 minutes of the first game he was already shoving his face into the Trails In The Sky of a fellow classmate
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Hopefully there aren't Trails spoilers in these posts
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Nah
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No, but I tried to stay out of it because Cold Steel in this topic is a line too far for me unless you two are asking. Got to get you two to play 3rd first!

but slights against vivi, real or imagined, can not stand
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There are no real spoilers, unless I guess if you somehow managed to avoid learning that the series takes place in Erebonia.
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you guys just can't help yourself
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Transferred by request~

Anyway, I just beat Trails in the Sky the 3rd. As in maybe 10 minutes ago.

Wow. This game. This series. I almost don't even know what to say. I guess I'll start with the headliner? I'm very confident this is my favorite ending in any game. I think that used to be Persona 3 for me but this was just... honestly this was about as close to perfect as I've seen. The 3rd as a whole? I'm having to resist the urge to say it's ahead of SC cleanly and my favorite in the series, and almost by default, a very strong contender for my favorite game overall. That, I think, is perhaps a slight overreaction of being in the moment. I do think that when/if I settle my feelings on this a bit more it'll be roughly equal with SC at worse and they might just flip back and forth depending on what day you ask me the question. This is just an incredible, incredible game.

I can field spoiler questions if anyone wants, but for right now I just want to write a general review type of post, plus I've been feeling increasingly bad at how I've caused the topic to fill with spoiler tags because that was not how I envisioned this playthrough going and I want to apologize for that.

The main plot/thread here is solid but like FC and SC before it which was really more about Estelle and Joshua, the real highlight here is Kevin and Ries. And it does not disappoint at all. It's a different kind of relationship between them too, so it never feels like a rehash of that. Estelle is still the best protagonist in the series, IMO, but Kevin made a hard run for the title before Estelle slammed it shut on him at the very end and somehow maybe even surpassed her peak SC form. And Ries is as integral to that, if not moreso, than Joshua was to Estelle's story. They're both incredible characters and I'm glad we got to see their story.

Really after the saga of FC/SC I'm just so invested in this cast and how they interact one another and it's just at its finest here. These guys are just the best. The very best. You have all these little subplots running throughout the group if you look for them, and some are more important than the others, but they all just make everything feel more connected and alive. After this my wishing for the Crossbell games to come here is even stronger than ever.

And the ending. This is how you do an ending. Really if I had to poke at SC, I'd say that in some ways I felt like it lacked some feeling of closure, that it ended a bit too soon. Yeah, the main threads were all tied up and you had a general idea of how things would resolve but I just wanted a little more from it. I have absolutely no such complaint this time around. I was blown away by how well this was handled. And really I think the ending may very well have been the highpoint of the trilogy. I had to stop at one point because the tears in my eyes made my vision too blurry to read the text. It was just a masterclass.

And I mean, I've gone on previously about how the music has been on-point and the gameplay is much improved (despite mostly being the same system) and even the minor graphical improvements are very appreciated, but I mean... at the end of the day I'm here for this cast and their world and The 3rd just delivers. There are plenty of other minor things I could talk about too, or have touched on in previous posts, but I see I'm running out of room in this one so I'll wrap here for now.

Provisional Trails Series Ranking (keep in mind they're all generally very close anyway so it's not uncommon for me to move these around at times): Trails in the Sky the 3rd >= Trails in the Sky SC >= Cold Steel 2 >= Cold Steel 1 > Trails in the Sky FC
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xp1337 posted...

No, but I tried to stay out of it because Cold Steel in this topic is a line too far for me unless you two are asking. Got to get you two to play 3rd first!

but slights against vivi, real or imagined, can not stand

not gonna lie, saddest part of Jeff going away is no The 3rd topic from him.
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Oh, I will probably still post on b8 while I'm elsewhere. Certainly through the SMFFFC season, at least, and I might be back by the time it's over. I may even get around to Trails the 3rd while I'm gone...!
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I think I said way back when he first appeared that Dominic was secretly the best character!

I mean, he's still not even close.

dowolf posted...

not gonna lie, saddest part of Jeff going away is no The 3rd topic from him.

so nobody cares if I play it then

I guess I'll drop it a little lower in the queue
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