Current Events > Shooter was an extremely far-left social justice warrior

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2/james-hodgkinson-profile/index.html

"His online presence was largely defined by his politics. For example, his public Facebook posts date back to 2012 and are nearly all about his support for leftist politics. He was passionate about tax hikes on the rich and universal health care."

I wonder which CEman it was. :/

there's a lot of 66 year old former small business owners on CE

am i rite?
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He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.
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It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think they're being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.
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s0nicfan posted...

He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

This

s0nicfan posted...

He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

lol what? far left loves guns
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Yes he was.

And?
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Antifar posted...

Yes he was.

And?

"Those damn liberals!"
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green butter posted...

s0nicfan posted...

He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

lol what

lol I know, that's crazy right? Sounds totally ridiculous. Imagine if you used that kind of logic in response to other public attacks.
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Social justice gunslinger, warriors aren't proficient with guns.
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Antifar posted...

Yes he was.

And?

clearly we should all start supporting Trump and the GOP

god antifar didn't you get the memo
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DifferentialEquation posted...

It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of shit.
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Sir Will posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of shit.

Just don't respond to him and he'll usually leave.

He's a bottom feeder troll.
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Kinda makes me wonder what stance the NRA takes on this connundrum
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Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.
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Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.

s0nicfan posted...

green butter posted...

s0nicfan posted...

He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

lol what

lol I know, that's crazy right? Sounds totally ridiculous. Imagine if you used that kind of logic in response to other public attacks.

the far left loves guns, stop talking out of your ass
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COVxy posted...

Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.

It was more along the lines of "when your side of choice dehumanizes the opposition by calling them Nazis, bigots, racists, etc, don't be surprised if keyboard warriors become violent"

COVxy posted...

Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.

o basically everybody? Come on, don't pretend like both sides aren't keeping score of every incident so they can use against each other. Just watch next week some idiot will do some stupid thing and the first thing out of the news and peoples mouthes will be which side he was on.
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Sir Will posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of shit.

I see no fault with what he said, I've been blaming the media for all this political violence for years now. The media which is mostly controlled by the left.
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QuantumScript posted...

Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.

You take CE way too seriously.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Sir Will posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of shit.

Just don't respond to him and he'll usually leave.

He's a bottom feeder troll.

Having trouble accepting that some people on your side get violent when they're not given muh freebies?
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QuantumScript posted...

Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.

Which one of the users here have said that?

And if you are saying this shooter represents all liberals do the other shooters represent all conservatives/whites/etc?

DifferentialEquation posted...

It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think they're being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

Or it shows how dangerous extremism can get no matter which side you are on.
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tremain07 posted...

COVxy posted...

Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.

o basically everybody? Come on, don't pretend like both sides aren't keeping score of every incident so they can use against each other. Just watch next week some idiot will do some stupid thing and the first thing out of the news and peoples mouthes will be which side he was on.

And to the extent to which it's true on both sides, it's pathetic.

It's pathetic either way.
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QuantumScript posted...

It was more along the lines of "when your side of choice dehumanizes the opposition by calling them Nazis, bigots, racists, etc, don't be surprised if keyboard warriors become violent"

>is against dehumanizing opposition
>calls opposition "keyboard warriors"

also wtf are you talking about

the alt right has been slinging "cuck" and "sjw" nonstop. that's not even starting on the horrifying behavior/slang for muslims or immigrants

this is a huge issue with our discourse, but let's not bury our heads in the sand and pretend one side is the problem, mkay?
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COVxy posted...

tremain07 posted...

COVxy posted...

Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.

o basically everybody? Come on, don't pretend like both sides aren't keeping score of every incident so they can use against each other. Just watch next week some idiot will do some stupid thing and the first thing out of the news and peoples mouthes will be which side he was on.

And to the extent to which it's true on both sides, it's pathetic.

It's pathetic either way.

Then why do you only say it's pathetic when someone does it to your side? lol

Doom_Art posted...

QuantumScript posted...

It was more along the lines of "when your side of choice dehumanizes the opposition by calling them Nazis, bigots, racists, etc, don't be surprised if keyboard warriors become violent"

>is against dehumanizing opposition
>calls opposition "keyboard warriors"

also wtf are you talking about

the alt right has been slinging "cuck" and "sjw" nonstop. that's not even starting on the horrifying behavior/slang for muslims or immigrants

this is a huge issue with our discourse, but let's not bury our heads in the sand and pretend one side is the problem, mkay?

i don't see how being called a sjw or a keyboard warrior is in any way comparable to being dehumanized by being called a Nazi

QuantumScript posted...

Then why do you only say it's pathetic when someone does it to your side? lol

I don't. Your selective attention is the cherry to this shitcake of a topic though.
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It went like this

Libs were like, "damn, a left-winger like us, but at least he was white"


Conservs were like, "damn, I would have preferred a Muslim, but an anti-Trumper BernieBro will do".
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yeah, he was, and he was also batshit insane. that doesn't prove anything about "Liberals". lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman shit. so, what's your point?
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voldothegr8 posted...

I see no fault with what he said, I've been blaming the media for all this political violence for years now. The media which is mostly controlled by the left.

yea fox, breitbart, infowars, and all the weirdly named facebook/twitter "news" sources are totally left wing guyz


Anyway, I read WaPo, NYT, and HuffPo (when I feel like indulging my bias), I watch MSNBC and CNN, and I enjoy several left wing podcasts

And I have never shot an elected official. Nor has the thought ever crossed my mind.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman shit. so, what's your point?

What's your point, that two wrongs make a right?
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voldothegr8 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman shit. so, what's your point?

What's your point, that two wrongs make a right?

my point is that him being "Liberal" is literally meaningless and only serves to further this pointless fucking partisan bullshit that plagues our country. anyone pointing that out and thinking it somehow makes "liberals" look bad is a flaming moron.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman shit. so, what's your point?

The point was that the left needs to practice what they preach and stop dehumanizing the right, because it just leads to violent leftists doing shit like this. There are consequences to exaggerating what the right is like, there are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots. You cheapen those words, and you also inspire violent people to take up arms against innocent people because of politics.

And make no mistake about it, that kind of tribalism and exaggeration on the left has gotten so bad that there are still going to be people (even on CE) that support what the shooter did and who wish he did more. I'd tag them but I don't want to get modded.

QuantumScript posted...

partisan bullshit

yup

i can take your exact quote and replace "left" with "right" and it still holds true. grow up and pull your head out of your ass.
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The daily discourse and outrage of trying to pin on one side or another the heinous deeds of an individual has gotten tiring, and more importantly it too often ignores or exculpates the more mundane violence inherent to the system.

Today's shooter committed a heinous action regardless of his target or affiliation; also, 10 people have died in ICE custody this year. The Portland killer was a monster regardless of which identity you wish to pin on him (he's fun because as a white supremacist and former Sanders supporter, you can blame both sides for him!) Also more mothers die giving birth in Texas than anywhere in the developed world.
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So it's ok for Proud to do it to liberals (repeatedly in this topic) but not the other side. And only the left does it. And he hasn't specifically pointed to any of us saying anything about all trump supporters being Nazis but continues to build his straw man.

This is like peak shitposting

QuantumScript posted...

Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.

Actually, that's pretty damn accurate, although I know you didn't intend it to be.
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QuantumScript posted...

here are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots

To be clear, Steve Scalise is a racist.

But the punishment for racism isn't death, and even if it was, taking the law into your own hands is not the way to go about that.
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nobody really gives a shit about violence anymore, they're just happy to be able to use it to further an agenda

Antifar posted...

(he's fun because as a white supremacist

That's funny because it's false. He was anti-racist and called Trump supporters "redneck peckerwood hillbillies pretending they aint racist".
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It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.
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Antifar posted...

QuantumScript posted...

here are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots

To be clear, Steve Scalise is a racist.

But the punishment for racism isn't death, and even if it was, taking the law into your own hands is not the way to go about that.

Cite?
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proudclod pls
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.

Many on twitter are. Several columnists had to delete their tweets.
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Violent Social Justice Radicals. Nothing surprising, really.

QuantumScript posted...

The point was that the left needs to practice what they preach and stop dehumanizing the right, because it just leads to violent leftists doing shit like this. There are consequences to exaggerating what the right is like, there are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots. You cheapen those words, and you also inspire violent people to take up arms against innocent people because of politics.

This. Let's not forget that Hillary Clinton considered Robert Byrd a friend and to be reformed but called half of Trump's supporters irredeemable. She is saying that someone who recruited over 100 people into the KKK can be be reformed but tens of millions of people who supported Trump cannot be.
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Ammonitida posted...

He was anti-racist

Harassing Muslim women and then killing those who intervene is a weird way to show that. If you would prefer I call him a bigot instead of a racist, fine, whatever.
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