Poll of the Day > This 8 y/o Kid STOPPED in front of the AMERICAN FLAG and Recited the PLEDGE!!!

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8 y/o Wyatt Warner from Salt Lake City, Utah was playing outside until he stopped in front of his friend's house that had a FLAG hanging outside and recited the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE..which was caught on camera.

His patriotic act was posted online as it shows the 3rd grader riding his bike to his friend's house on a mini motorcycle before stopping and placed his hand over his chest and said "I thought about all the people that died for our country and troops. And i once saw ISIS stepping and burning our flag and i got really mad. I knew they were bad people and i knew they hate Americans"

His neighbor, Emily Zarr showed off the video to his mother as his innocence was seen as a "mature act" from millions.

However, he recited one line wrong as rather than say "with liberty and justice for all" he said "with liberty and school".

He said he made the mistake simply because how often they have to do it everyday at school and got confused..

Do you think reciting the pledge of allegiance everyday at school is a bad thing? let's see what people think

Wyatt -

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I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.

It's supposed show respect to your fellow countrymen and pride in American roots. However yes you are right it doesn't educate anyone and is not needed.
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VioletMassacre posted...

Sensual_T_Rex posted...

respect to your fellow countrymen and pride in American roots.

Funniest thing I've read in a while.

Well aren't you just a edgy little maverick renegade.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.

Wait you didnt do that in school ? we did.

jkdarlow posted...

Wait you didnt do that in school ? we did.

Of course not. Only we did sing it a handful of times when I were part of the choir back in primary school.
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I resented it while in school, but nowadays I mostly don't care. It's just one more routine and probably has more benefit than some of the others.

wwinterj25 posted...

I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.

Clearly it educates them in the recitation of said pledge. At any rate, it's like arguing why bother putting national flags up over government buildings when everybody bloody well knows the country they're in.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.

Well, it happen here and its utter crap to sing them everyday. Glad i could lipsync
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I don't know if that's a commonplace thing in the US, but it seems kind of excessive. Forcing kids to recite a pledge of allegiance in the name of freedom is painfully ironic. I'm not even sure why the pledge is a thing for anyone other than new citizens. If it were the national anthem, that would be a different story. I don't really see anything strange or wrong about singing/listening to the national anthem at the start of each day.

Here in Alberta, the issue of the anthem being played depends on the school. In elementary school we had to sing the anthem every Monday. In middle school, it played every morning and we just had to stand for it. In high school it also played every morning but we remained seated, which was kind of weird.

I'm a teacher at a K to 12 school now, and at my school students stand for the anthem every morning, much like it was at my middle school. I think the elementary teachers get their classes to occasionally sing the anthem, but I'm a high school teacher so I'm on the other side of the building and have no way of knowing without asking.
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I stopped doing it in middle school, all my teachers hated it but fuck em.
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@wwinterj25 posted...

I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.

@wwinterj25

As a fellow Brit (I am from Glasgow) I too have often wondered why the Americans do this. I always thought it was just some Americana thing.

Totally agree. It is like us singing the National Anthem or Rule Britannia and shouting out God Save The Queen everyday in school.

So right unneeded and non-educational.
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hoggys2much99 posted...

Totally agree. It is like us singing the National Anthem or Rule Britannia and shouting out God Save The Queen everyday in school.

Except it's not, since the pledge is about 30 seconds long (as opposed to a song spanning minutes) and, while everybody stands up during it, most don't recite it. Otherwise, to be perfectly blunt, I'm sure your nation has a lot of habits we'd find strange.
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faramir77 posted...

Forcing kids to recite a pledge of allegiance in the name of freedom is painfully ironic.

Indeed. I don't think it is a bad thing but to some degree I'd say it should be an option. Some folks always complain about freedom of expression and whatnot. It outta be the right of the individual to make the pledge or not. On the flip side, it is not like making the pledge is equal to swearing in to the military and pledging your life to defend the country. Outta all the folks who feel making the pledge should be mandatory, how many will volunteer for the military if push comes to shove?
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@Zeus

I take it you have never heard the British National Anthem. It is one of if not the shortest National Anthem in the world. The Anthem can be sung in less than a minute.

Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

Time how long it takes to sing the first verse. It is about the same time as it takes to say the Pledge Of Allegiance. The other verses in that video are rarely sung.
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Zeus posted...

At any rate, it's like arguing why bother putting national flags up over government buildings when everybody bloody well knows the country they're in.

Yeah I know it's all about pride and that shit. Still a school is there to teach and again it serves no purpose other than "mah pride!". Having to do this everyday at school seems like brainwashing in my eyes. Also if Americans are that big on pride then why is it only school kids that do this? Why not have people do it in every work environment? Americans are going to american I guess.

Zeus posted...

Otherwise, to be perfectly blunt, I'm sure your nation has a lot of habits we'd find strange.

Probably. Just like any other nation.
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Zeus posted...

Clearly it educates them in the recitation of said pledge.

Full Throttle posted...

However, he recited one line wrong

Clearly not.
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I never understood why people hated the pledge
In America you can totally refuse to do it and nothing bad will happen
I always did it as a way of saying thanks to the people who created this country
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Well it kind of makes sense considering America's origin. We needed patriotism back in the early days.

But yeah, I can definitely see how it looks a little cult-like to other nations.

Anyway, why is this even a news story? It's a kid.

NomakM54 posted...

In America you can totally refuse to do it and nothing bad will happen

Not officially, but you will get glared at. Depending on the school, some kids actually get in trouble for refusing to stand up/recite the pledge.
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NomakM54 posted...

I never understood why people hated the pledge
In America you can totally refuse to do it and nothing bad will happen
I always did it as a way of saying thanks to the people who created this country

I wasn't allowed to refuse. I got in trouble a lot for sleeping through it.
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I have nothing against it. You can still have respect for and pride in the good things about a country in spite of people misusing those things.
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hoggys2much99 posted...

@wwinterj25 posted...

I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.

@wwinterj25

As a fellow Brit (I am from Glasgow) I too have often wondered why the Americans do this. I always thought it was just some Americana thing.

Totally agree. It is like us singing the National Anthem or Rule Britannia and shouting out God Save The Queen everyday in school.

So right unneeded and non-educational.

Maybe if you guys were more patriotic you wouldn't have a crumbling empire with your native populations shrinking day by day and being replaced by people not native to your lands.

I'm pretty sure we consider this a bad thing, at least when its advanced cultures replacing primitive culture, why is the opposite considered good by you guys?
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bulbinking posted...

Maybe if you guys were more patriotic you wouldn't have a crumbling empire with your native populations shrinking day by day and being replaced by people not native to your lands.

Yeah because that's working out so great for America that Trump wants to build a wall to keep immigrants out.

bulbinking posted...

I'm pretty sure we consider this a bad thing, at least when its advanced cultures replacing primitive culture, why is the opposite considered good by you guys?

Quick! We all need to sing god save the queen so the immigrants go away!
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bulbinking posted...

Why don't you guys ban assault trucks/vans to protect yourselves next? Clearly thats the only way to stop immigrants from committing acts of mass violence and fear in your country!

Nah. Pleading our alliance is clearly the only way to go obv.
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It's brainwashing. So, yes.
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I think my comment was too soon sadly because I just heard about a van with 4 asian men with machetes in essex police are there hope nobody got hurt im really REALLY sorry for you guys, poor things...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

It's brainwashing. So, yes.

You mean like lib arts classes in american universities? Some of the curriculum courses LITERALLY mimic cult style initiation socializing techniques.

I mean, it was leftists who originally studied mass brainwa-- "reeducation" programs after all.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

It's brainwashing. So, yes.

How is it brainwashing lmao
It's not like it's saying America is the greatest country on earth and anything that says otherwise is a lie
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No because it teaches them to respect this country.
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Sensual_T_Rex posted...

It's supposed show respect to your fellow countrymen and pride in American roots.

What I remember most about grade school was the violence at the hands of other students and beratement from teachers.

Zeus posted...

why bother putting national flags up over government buildings when everybody bloody well knows the country they're in.

That is a good point. Maybe it's more to denote the special use of that particular building.

Allegiance to the flag.
Why? It's a piece of cloth. It does nothing special. If another country were to start using the same flag would this allegiance have to extend to that country as well?

For the republic.
Most people don't even realize the US is a republic. They think it's a straight democracy then get confused when the electoral college becomes an issue. Also an issue is that voters are divided between Republicans and Democrats leading to more confusion with wording association.

One nation.
Hardly, identity politics have made Americans more divided than ever.

Under God.
Freedom of religion.

Liberty and justice.
Two things that no one seems to have.
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bulbinking posted...

poor things...

Jokes on you as I don't live in London. Try harder next time.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I don't understand why this is even a thing. It would be like us Brits singing out national anthem everyday at school. It's not needed and educates nobody.

In america that becomes a constitutional issue if they recite the version that was modified to In the 50s to set us apart from the ussr- namely the oft controversial "under God" line which was not part of the original pledge.

If they recited the pledge in its original unmodified form it wouldn't be an issue.

But then the religious whackjobs who want to convert people would get pissed even though they can just sing it how they personally wanted.

IMO- we should just scrap the pledge in favor of the Classic "New York New York" by Sinatra.

New York is America anyway.
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Full Throttle posted...

His patriotic act was posted online as it shows the 3rd grader riding his bike to his friend's house on a mini motorcycle

I see no one here noticed that there is a house sitting on top of a motorcycle somewhere.

I'm okay with the pledge, because

Tardis2015 posted...

it teaches them to respect this country.

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