Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 103: Going Through Testimony with a Fine-Tooth Comey

(+) Yeah! (+)

Just confirm the pee tapes already.
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Surskit posted...

charmander6000 posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Can you accept a blowjob from a dude and not be gay?

I recently had a long discussion about this with a bunch of people (along with accepting cunnilingus for women) there were a lot of opinions.

Same. I had a talk with some people arguing that you can be straight and like dick because dicks aren't male.

I would have to disagree with that sentiment. At best the person would be bi. Once you enjoy performing sexual acts with the person of the same sex then you are an LGB. I can see if you were receiving and consider yourself straight because a mouth is a mouth.
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McCain is such a fucking idiot, he literally thinks a completed investigation and an ongoing investigation are the same things.
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SephG posted...

You don't think that there is still discourse (academic and layman) about how/when/why people are homosexuals? (ie, is it genetic--and if so, how is the gene passed on; can it be nurtured and how young does this development occur?)

Why is this triggering you? I'm not trying to troll

Not the SCIENCE of being gay, the IDEA of being gay.

The concept of "some dudes are attracted to other dudes" isn't very hard. Yet many still choose to disavow it!
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He literally just said "President Comey."

Why do you keep electing this jackass, Arizona?
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Is John McCain fucking stupid?
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No trump tweets of note yet? Apparently he'll be making a statement soon.
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Espeon posted...

Is John McCain fucking stupid?

You seriously voted for this man in 2008.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Espeon posted...

Is John McCain fucking stupid?

You seriously voted for this man in 2008.

He seems senile. He wasn't eight years ago.
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He literally picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
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charmander6000 posted...

Surskit posted...

charmander6000 posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Can you accept a blowjob from a dude and not be gay?

I recently had a long discussion about this with a bunch of people (along with accepting cunnilingus for women) there were a lot of opinions.

Same. I had a talk with some people arguing that you can be straight and like dick because dicks aren't male.

I would have to disagree with that sentiment. At best the person would be bi. Once you enjoy performing sexual acts with the person of the same sex then you are an LGB. I can see if you were receiving and consider yourself straight because a mouth is a mouth.

This isn't really a reply to anyone in specific, but I just wanna point out that if you accept the existence of trans people, you can't really make too big a deal about genitalia. Generally people are attracted to gender, not parts.

Now if you want to say, "if you're a man who enjoys giving another man a blowjob, you're probably at least bi" then... yeah I think that checks out. But again gender is a social construct, so it's still not true in, like, an absolute, empirical sense.
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She wasn't a train wreck and was actually considered a smart choice at the start of her tenure as his running mate. Then she proved herself to be an idiot.
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Based on the live updates I'm reading it sounds like McCain is having a bad day. Maybe he should have passed on the opportunity to speak.
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charmander6000 posted...

Based on the live updates I'm reading it sounds like McCain is having a bad day. Maybe he should have passed on the opportunity to speak.

He couldn't wrap his head around the idea that:

Clinton email investigation was over.
Trump collusion investigation was ongoing.

Yet he kept trying to link Clinton to possible Russia collusion because... she secretly wanted to sabotage herself?
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in like the 1920s it was fairly common opinion that you could fuck a guy and not be gay as long as you were the penetrative partner

but it was also weird because guys who took it from "straight" guys were sort of treated as like a third gender in the whole equation. we'd probably question if they were trans, these days.

Also more or less how Ancient Greece viewed it. It was perfectly fine if you were fucking a dude, but if you were catching you were considered kind of a ponce
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I was going to say that maybe McCain thought Clinton was actually president, but clearly he thinks Comey is.
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Kenri posted...

This isn't really a reply to anyone in specific, but I just wanna point out that if you accept the existence of trans people, you can't really make too big a deal about genitalia. Generally people are attracted to gender, not parts.

I disagree, humans are very much attracted to parts over gender. A straight male would be more attracted to a trans female over a trans male, assuming they have completed sexual realignment surgery.

Though to be fair I’m completely ignoring other traits that a person may find attractive (personality etc.)
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https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/872846890420895749

The pee tape is real

I think that's the big takeaway
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/872846890420895749

The pee tape is real

I think that's the big takeaway

What the christ.
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charmander6000 posted...

I disagree, humans are very much attracted to parts over gender. A straight male would be more attracted to a trans female over a trans male, assuming they have completed sexual realignment surgery.

they'd generally be attracted to a trans woman over a trans man even before sex reassignment surgery (which most trans men don't even get because it's still not very good)

mind you some are obviously going to be turned off by their partner having a dick, but I don't think many are gonna be like "heck yeah I'mma fuck this hairy dude's vagina" either
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Is the testimony in recess or over?
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https://twitter.com/megkinnardap/status/872842606191005696

Ryan should be raked over the coals for this excuse.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Is the testimony in recess or over?

It's over.
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McCain, didn't seem to grasp the concept of time. The email investigation started in 2015 and concluded in July 2016. The Russia investigation started in 2016 and hadn't concluded. It's like he thinks both events happened simultaneously and should have concluded simultaneously. Which doesn't make sense even if they were started simultaneously because they're unrelated things.
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Espeon posted...

McCain, didn't seem to grasp the concept of time.

https://twitter.com/joshgondelman/status/872856045336612864
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So anything happen yet? Seems like it just more or less confirmed public knowledge. Pee tape being real is hilarious though.
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"Trump clearly obstructed justice"
"Yeah but he didn't MEAN to. He's just new at this."
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I love how Trump asked him to run an investigation to disprove the existence of the pee tape, and Comey very gently reminded him that proving a negative is basically impossible.
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KamikazePotato posted...

So anything happen yet? Seems like it just more or less confirmed public knowledge. Pee tape being real is hilarious though.

Yeah pretty much.

It's great that it is now on the record that Comey believes he was fired "because of the Russia investigation," and in doing so reminded people that Trump explicitly said as much on national television.
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I like how Comey paints a picture of begging everyone in earshot not to leave him alone with Trump and no one listening.

And so he just has to placate Trump by not saying anything, but Trump hears what he wants to hear and then gets mad when Comey wasn't his pocket admin.
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TheRock1525 posted...

He literally just said "President Comey."

Don't we all wish
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After Trump slammed Qatar yesterday for being a huge source of government-funded terrorism...

https://twitter.com/simonmarksfsn/status/872858486895513600

This, if true, is incompetence at the highest level
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Jakyl25 posted...

"Trump clearly obstructed justice"
"Yeah but he didn't MEAN to. He's just new at this."

Comey: "Fuckers I tried to make sure he had an adult in the room! This shit's on you!"
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I love how the entire substance of Comey's testimony was that we have elected a toddler as President.
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Jakyl25 posted...

"Trump clearly obstructed justice"
"Yeah but he didn't MEAN to. He's just new at this."

"He just saw all this unobstructed justice all over the place and thought he should do something about that. No one had told him not to"
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Jakyl25 posted...

This, if true, is incompetence at the highest level

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474134260149157888
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Apparently Trump is most upset that Comey repeatedly, explicitly called him a liar.

Maybe Trump doesn't KNOW he's lying? He's still new to this.
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I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.
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So Trump hasn't tweeted anything at all today.

So maybe someone DID successfully steal his phone?

Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.

Pffft, no.
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Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.

Nah, Seph is going to show up at some point and continue claiming there's literally nothing there and it's not a big deal
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Regaro posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.

Nah, Seph is going to show up at some point and continue claiming there's literally nothing there and it's not a big deal

There's a massive difference between "Russia intervened in the election" (spoilers: they interfere in every US election and we interfere in every Russian election) and "the Trump campaign colluded with Russia for political gain." There is literally zero evidence of the latter.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCwPtOhrEc

(start around 2 minutes if your time is precious)

This is how I feel when talking to all of you (and young hysterical Leftists IRL) about the Russia investigation
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

young hysterical Leftists

wow how'd you know the name of my favorite band
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Regaro posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.

Nah, Seph is going to show up at some point and continue claiming there's literally nothing there and it's not a big deal

There's a massive difference between "Russia intervened in the election" (spoilers: they interfere in every US election and we interfere in every Russian election) and "the Trump campaign colluded with Russia for political gain." There is literally zero evidence of the latter.

So you think Flynn acted of his own accord and not on behalf of the Trump campaign?
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

This is how I feel when talking to all of you

then don't?

i feel like each topic half the time you're whining "man this topic is so awful everybody here is dense blah blah." you're free to go elsewhere to have a political conversation with awesome intelligent people.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Regaro posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.

Nah, Seph is going to show up at some point and continue claiming there's literally nothing there and it's not a big deal

There's a massive difference between "Russia intervened in the election" (spoilers: they interfere in every US election and we interfere in every Russian election) and "the Trump campaign colluded with Russia for political gain." There is literally zero evidence of the latter.

So you think Flynn acted of his own accord and not on behalf of the Trump campaign?

Where is there evidence that Flynn spoke to the Russians about interfering in the election?
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Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.

HAH
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TheRock1525 posted...

He literally just said "President Comey."

Why do you keep electing this jackass, Arizona?

This is the congressional equivalent of calling the teacher mom.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Regaro posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if the FBI Director at the time confirming, on record, that Russia repeatedly, maliciously, and with purpose attempted to interfere with the election will quiet those who think "But Russia!" is just a leftist concoction, whether or not it ever links directly back to the Trump campaign.

Nah, Seph is going to show up at some point and continue claiming there's literally nothing there and it's not a big deal

There's a massive difference between "Russia intervened in the election" (spoilers: they interfere in every US election and we interfere in every Russian election) and "the Trump campaign colluded with Russia for political gain." There is literally zero evidence of the latter.

So you think Flynn acted of his own accord and not on behalf of the Trump campaign?

Where is there evidence that Flynn spoke to the Russians about interfering in the election?

None directly. But there's so much smoke there's probably a fire.

-We know that Flynn was compromised by the Russians during the Campaign, because Obama relayed as such to Trump after he was elected, and Sally Yates relayed as such to Trump after he took office, for which she was expressly fired.

--We know that all top decision makers knew of Flynn's compromised position before they took office, and that Mike Pence was lying when he said he was unaware. We have documented evidence of when he was made aware.

--We know Flynn illegally colluded with Russia during the President-Elect stage to assure them that the Obama sanctions levied due to Russian election interference would be revoked under President Trump.

--We know Trump told Comey that he "hoped" Comey would let Flynn off the hook. This, despite Trump knowing for a fact that Flynn was compromised by Russia and colluding with them regarding sanctions prior to taking office, and after firing Flynn for failing to disclose meetings with them.


It's true that there is nothing directly damning in those facts in and of themselves, but to me they represent something obviously running deeper. Which is why there are many ongoing investigations.
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