Poll of the Day > Trump's budget cut proposal cuts funding for west coast quake warning system.

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WastelandCowboy 05/26/17 11:11:35 PM #51:	DirtBasedSoap posted... earthquakes, like global warming are a liberal hoax How's that tin-foil hat? <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879885415] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>earthquakes, like global warming are a liberal hoax</quote> How's that tin-foil hat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/26/17 11:53:09 PM #52:	WastelandCowboy posted... DirtBasedSoap posted... earthquakes, like global warming are a liberal hoax How's that tin-foil hat? He clearly wasn't serious. Sometimes I wonder about you people <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:879887478] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>earthquakes, like global warming are a liberal hoax</quote> How's that tin-foil hat?</quote> He clearly wasn't serious. Sometimes I wonder about you people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 05/27/17 12:21:30 AM #53:	Zeus posted... Well, California should have voted in his favor. Really, they brought this on themselves. Next election he might not have to worry about their electoral votes. Sorry i am late for the back up but i found that shit hilarious XD Sorry no one else got your joke hahahaha and im from california lmao --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:879888639] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, California should have voted in his favor. Really, they brought this on themselves. Next election he might not have to worry about their electoral votes.</quote> Sorry i am late for the back up but i found that shit hilarious XD Sorry no one else got your joke hahahaha and im from california lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/27/17 12:24:00 AM #54:	here's a really easy way to tell if there's an earthquake or not is the ground moving? is it supposed to be moving? --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879888745] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>here's a really easy way to tell if there's an earthquake or not is the ground moving? is it supposed to be moving?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/27/17 12:37:24 AM #55:	OhhhJa posted... Sometimes I wonder about you people What do you mean "you people"? <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879889235] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Sometimes I wonder about you people</quote> What do you mean "you people"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 05/27/17 12:42:36 AM #56:	WastelandCowboy posted... OhhhJa posted... Sometimes I wonder about you people What do you mean "you people"? what do you mean "you people" --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:879889429] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Sometimes I wonder about you people</quote> What do you mean "you people"?</quote> what do you mean "you people"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/27/17 12:49:31 AM #57:	yutterh posted... WastelandCowboy posted... OhhhJa posted... Sometimes I wonder about you people What do you mean "you people"? what do you mean "you people" You know exactly what I mean. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879889729] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Sometimes I wonder about you people</quote> What do you mean "you people"?</quote> what do you mean "you people"</quote> You know exactly what I mean.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jramirez23 05/27/17 12:58:45 AM #58:	Why? The government's budget isn't like a family because the government itself can make the decision to print more money. --- Then we two companions stayed in the ocean After five days the currents separated us. <cite>jramirez23 posted [p:879890056] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>Why? The government's budget isn't like a family because the government itself can make the decision to print more money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 05/27/17 3:33:44 AM #59:	WastelandCowboy posted... yutterh posted... WastelandCowboy posted... OhhhJa posted... Sometimes I wonder about you people What do you mean "you people"? what do you mean "you people" You know exactly what I mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1iV24hL8Rk --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:879894846] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Sometimes I wonder about you people</quote> What do you mean "you people"?</quote> what do you mean "you people"</quote> You know exactly what I mean.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1iV24hL8Rk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 05/27/17 4:05:35 AM #60:	jramirez23 posted... Why? The government's budget isn't like a family because the government itself can make the decision to print more money. sadly some people believe this. --- Kill From The Shadows <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:879895575] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>jramirez23 posted...</cite> <quote>Why? The government's budget isn't like a family because the government itself can make the decision to print more money.</quote> sadly some people believe this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ha21nagamas 05/27/17 7:35:51 AM #61:	Zeus posted... ha21nagamas posted... Hahaha even japanese is more technologically advance than USA in the earthquake warning system, heck i think Indonesia is more advance than USA in that field too its just so hilarious harhar You mean nations more at risk of earthquakes are more advanced in detecting them? Insanity! Plus "even Japan"? Japan is a wealthy first-world nation on par with the US in many regards, it's not some third-world shithole where they don't even have roads because nobody owns cars. @ha21nagamas I laughed at this eventhough i know its wrong to lol at my own country. But my point is that if trump want to cut the funding to prevent the natural disaster to kill more people he is just insane --- Happy Ramadhan Fasting everyone, hope you survived for a full month of it! <cite>ha21nagamas posted [p:879899392] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ha21nagamas posted...</cite> <quote>Hahaha even japanese is more technologically advance than USA in the earthquake warning system, heck i think Indonesia is more advance than USA in that field too its just so hilarious harhar</quote> You mean nations more at risk of earthquakes are more advanced in detecting them? Insanity! Plus "even Japan"? Japan is a wealthy first-world nation on par with the US in many regards, it's not some third-world shithole where they don't even have roads because nobody owns cars. @ha21nagamas</quote> I laughed at this eventhough i know its wrong to lol at my own country. But my point is that if trump want to cut the funding to prevent the natural disaster to kill more people he is just insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 05/27/17 7:45:51 AM #62:	ha21nagamas posted... to prevent the natural disaster This doesn't prevent earthquakes. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:879899563] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>ha21nagamas posted...</cite> <quote> to prevent the natural disaster </quote> This doesn't prevent earthquakes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/27/17 9:01:47 AM #63:	helIy posted... here's a really easy way to tell if there's an earthquake or not is the ground moving? is it supposed to be moving? Are there times when the ground is supposed to be moving? --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:879901403] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>here's a really easy way to tell if there's an earthquake or not is the ground moving? is it supposed to be moving?</quote> Are there times when the ground is supposed to be moving?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/27/17 9:18:50 AM #64:	Mead posted... helIy posted... here's a really easy way to tell if there's an earthquake or not is the ground moving? is it supposed to be moving? Are there times when the ground is supposed to be moving? Building work next door. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:879901864] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>here's a really easy way to tell if there's an earthquake or not is the ground moving? is it supposed to be moving?</quote> Are there times when the ground is supposed to be moving?</quote> Building work next door.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 9:21:33 AM #65:	WastelandCowboy posted... https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover." Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development. It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it? --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879901948] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding <quote>LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover."</quote> Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development.</quote> It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/27/17 10:06:05 AM #67:	OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover." Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development. It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it? Seismographs. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879903167] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding <quote>LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover."</quote> Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development.</quote> It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it?</quote> Seismographs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 10:22:42 AM #68:	WastelandCowboy posted... OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover." Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development. It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it? Seismographs. A few seconds? --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879903684] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding <quote>LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover."</quote> Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development.</quote> It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it?</quote> Seismographs.</quote>A few seconds?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropic_Sunset 05/27/17 10:31:17 AM #69:	yutterh posted... Zeus posted... Well, California should have voted in his favor. Really, they brought this on themselves. Next election he might not have to worry about their electoral votes. Sorry i am late for the back up but i found that shit hilarious XD Sorry no one else got your joke hahahaha and im from california lmao No worries, I got the joke too. Always funny to see who takes it seriously. Krazy_Kirby posted... jramirez23 posted... Why? The government's budget isn't like a family because the government itself can make the decision to print more money. sadly some people believe this. He's not entirely wrong, but clearly doesn't understand the implications of printing money. Why not just print enough money for everyone to be a billionaire? Money problems solved! WastelandCowboy posted... Seismographs I was not aware that a seismograph was able to predict an earthquake before the earthquake occurred and gave the seismograph something to measure. --- "Nostalgia is a hell of a drug." -Magus 10 <cite>Tropic_Sunset posted [p:879903978] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, California should have voted in his favor. Really, they brought this on themselves. Next election he might not have to worry about their electoral votes.</quote> Sorry i am late for the back up but i found that shit hilarious XD Sorry no one else got your joke hahahaha and im from california lmao</quote> No worries, I got the joke too. Always funny to see who takes it seriously. <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jramirez23 posted...</cite> <quote>Why? The government's budget isn't like a family because the government itself can make the decision to print more money.</quote> sadly some people believe this.</quote> He's not entirely wrong, but clearly doesn't understand the implications of printing money. Why not just print enough money for everyone to be a billionaire? Money problems solved! <cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Seismographs</quote> I was not aware that a seismograph was able to predict an earthquake before the earthquake occurred and gave the seismograph something to measure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 10:36:38 AM #70:	As far as unpredictable disasters go it's asteroid then earthquake. No money will predict earthquakes. --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879904162] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>As far as unpredictable disasters go it's asteroid then earthquake. No money will predict earthquakes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/27/17 10:39:10 AM #71:	OneTimeBen posted... As far as unpredictable disasters go it's asteroid then earthquake. No money will predict earthquakes. There are plenty of natural disasters that used to be unpredictable before years of research were done and new technology was developed. Earthquakes are no different, but research and development stagnate without financial support. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:879904254] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote>As far as unpredictable disasters go it's asteroid then earthquake. No money will predict earthquakes.</quote> There are plenty of natural disasters that used to be unpredictable before years of research were done and new technology was developed. Earthquakes are no different, but research and development stagnate without financial support.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/27/17 10:50:18 AM #72:	OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Seismographs. A few seconds? Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879904622] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Seismographs.</quote>A few seconds?</quote> Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 11:05:32 AM #73:	WastelandCowboy posted... OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Seismographs. A few seconds? Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen. So what is the trend for the Yellowstone blast? Any money to predict it need to go there. No joke. --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879905210] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Seismographs.</quote>A few seconds?</quote> Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen.</quote>So what is the trend for the Yellowstone blast? Any money to predict it need to go there. No joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/27/17 11:11:19 AM #74:	OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Seismographs. A few seconds? Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen. So what is the trend for the Yellowstone blast? Any money to predict it need to go there. No joke. No idea. I'm no seismologist. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879905468] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Seismographs.</quote>A few seconds?</quote> Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen.</quote>So what is the trend for the Yellowstone blast? Any money to predict it need to go there. No joke.</quote> No idea. I'm no seismologist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 11:16:54 AM #75:	WastelandCowboy posted... OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Seismographs. A few seconds? Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen. Ok so trends. There are trends of tornadoes killing people. We predict them ok. Any trends that say California is going to slip away? Like half of Florida being underwater in 10 years. --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879905690] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Seismographs.</quote>A few seconds?</quote> Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen.</quote> Ok so trends. There are trends of tornadoes killing people. We predict them ok. Any trends that say California is going to slip away? Like half of Florida being underwater in 10 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/27/17 11:35:01 AM #76:	OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Seismographs. A few seconds? Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen. Ok so trends. There are trends of tornadoes killing people. We predict them ok. Any trends that say California is going to slip away? Like half of Florida being underwater in 10 years. I already told you I don't know. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879906334] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Seismographs.</quote>A few seconds?</quote> Seismographs can produce results that can be used to predict trends, trends that can be used to predict when an earthquake might happen.</quote> Ok so trends. There are trends of tornadoes killing people. We predict them ok. Any trends that say California is going to slip away? Like half of Florida being underwater in 10 years.</quote> I already told you I don't know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/27/17 11:36:11 AM #77:	I am a seismologist. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:879906381] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>I am a seismologist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 05/27/17 11:37:50 AM #78:	Yo @OneTimeBen, what country are you from? --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:879906454] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>Yo @OneTimeBen, what country are you from?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 05/27/17 11:42:16 AM #79:	This is a good cut --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:879906681] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>This is a good cut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 11:43:40 AM #80:	Sarcasthma posted... Yo @OneTimeBen, what country are you from? Iowa. --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879906740] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote>Yo @OneTimeBen, what country are you from?</quote> Iowa.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 05/27/17 11:47:11 AM #81:	Ah yes, the great country of Iowa. :p --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:879906886] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>Ah yes, the great country of Iowa. :p</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 11:50:53 AM #82:	So yeah need money to be Nostradamus with earth quakes. Geologists are not going away. --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879907035] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote>So yeah need money to be Nostradamus with earth quakes. Geologists are not going away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 05/27/17 2:48:17 PM #83:	OneTimeBen posted... WastelandCowboy posted... https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover." Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development. It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it? It is research for a better warning system. Every second counts. --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:879915326] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-05-26/trumps-budget-cuts-west-coast-quake-warning-system-funding <quote>LOS ANGELES (AP) — President Donald Trump's budget proposal would cut federal funding for an earthquake early warning system for California, Oregon and Washington state, a development that seismology experts and some local leaders say would be the end of the project. The system being developed in conjunction with various universities is intended at providing critical seconds of warning when an earthquake has started and potentially dangerous shaking is imminent, allowing time for people to take cover and to slow or halt such things as critical industrial processes and transportation systems. A version of the ShakeAlert system has been undergoing testing but still needs to have more seismic sensors installed in Northern California, Oregon and Washington. The proposed funding cuts for the next fiscal year starting Oct. 1 would come from the budget of the U.S. Geological Survey, a bureau of the U.S. Interior Department. Veteran seismologist Lucy Jones, who recently retired from the U.S. Geological Survey after years of providing earthquake information to the public, said she was deeply disappointed. "Eliminating the $10 million (per) year that the government has been spending would stop the program and waste the $23 million that has already been invested," she said in a statement. "The talented scientists and technicians that are working on the project now will go to other jobs, so their experience and expertise would be lost." Rep. Adam Schiff, a Los Angeles-area Democrat, said in a Facebook post that the system should not be stopped just as it is being expanded after years of work to educate the public and Congress on its benefits. "Support for the early warning system in Congress is sustained, growing and bipartisan, and we will not accept this attempt by the president to cut a vital funding stream for a program that will protect life, property and critical infrastructure," Schiff wrote. Rep. Ken Calvert, a Republican who represents an inland Southern California district, is chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Interior and the Environment and has supported funding of the earthquake warning system in the past. In a statement Tuesday he did not mention the warning system specifically, but noted that the budget "proposes some reductions for agencies that fall within the Interior Subcommittee's jurisdiction. Those agencies perform important work, so the members of our committee will be faced with making some difficult decisions." A telephone message seeking comment was left Friday morning at Calvert's district office in Corona. In Los Angeles, Councilman Mitch Englander called the funding cuts "a threat to the lives of millions of people in California and beyond." Englander's district includes the epicenter of the deadly 1994 Northridge earthquake that caused billions of dollars in damage to Los Angeles and neighboring areas. "When it comes to earthquakes, seconds matter," he said in a statement. "A fully deployed early warning system would give time for elevators to shut down, hospitals to turn on backup generators, and people to take cover."</quote> Mind you, this system is still in development. However, cutting the funding for it will not be helpful to it's development.</quote> It literally says seconds or warning. What is that going to do? How much should we spend on a few seconds warning? And how is it possible to predict something is happening before it happens? Does the World make a certain sound or what is it?</quote> It is research for a better warning system. Every second counts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/17 3:17:52 PM #84:	BlackScythe0 posted... Zeus posted... BlackScythe0 posted... If you think about it there are three great threats the government needs to handle. Natural disaster, disease, and war. Trump wants to cut funding from two of the three major concerns. Not really. The main function of government is protecting the borders -- which includes war -- because the borders define the country's boundaries and then maintaining a system of order (contract law, criminal law, etc). Everything else comes second. And historically disaster relief wasn't a federal function, that was handled by the states. Disease, when addressed by government was also handled at the state level. The feds weren't even directly involved with roads until the last century when highways went in. I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make here. Historically blood letting and pounding nails into peoples brains were accepted medical treatments. I'm not even sure what kind of argument you're trying to make there. First off, blood letting was debunked long before the US was started. Second, even if it was an approved medical process at the time, it still makes no sense in context. More importantly, you've fundamentally misrepresented the most important jobs of government to advance a false agenda. Troll_Police_ posted... im content to let the people who choose to live in areas that are prone to earthquakes pay the price instead of the rest of us. tbh, California is a pretty wealthy state. If they started charging Hollywood its fair share -- rather than let them get away with hokey accounting -- they could afford a lot of stuff. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879916723] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>If you think about it there are three great threats the government needs to handle. Natural disaster, disease, and war. Trump wants to cut funding from two of the three major concerns.</quote> Not really. The main function of government is protecting the borders -- which includes war -- because the borders define the country's boundaries and then maintaining a system of order (contract law, criminal law, etc). Everything else comes second. And historically disaster relief wasn't a federal function, that was handled by the states. Disease, when addressed by government was also handled at the state level. The feds weren't even directly involved with roads until the last century when highways went in.</quote> I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make here. Historically blood letting and pounding nails into peoples brains were accepted medical treatments.</quote> I'm not even sure what kind of argument you're trying to make there. First off, blood letting was debunked long before the US was started. Second, even if it was an approved medical process at the time, it still makes no sense in context. More importantly, you've fundamentally misrepresented the most important jobs of government to advance a false agenda. <cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>im content to let the people who choose to live in areas that are prone to earthquakes pay the price instead of the rest of us.</quote> tbh, California is a pretty wealthy state. If they started charging Hollywood its fair share -- rather than let them get away with hokey accounting -- they could afford a lot of stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/17 3:17:56 PM #85:	Doctor Foxx posted... Allisonata posted... Well, we'd be wrong to say that exercise has never killed someone... I guess. But is it right to say this? “Other than golf, he considers exercise misguided, arguing that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy.” He used a terrible analogy, but activity over time does wear the body down particularly where bones are concerned (which I learned after talking to a co-worker who broke a leg bone jogging). Granted, that's more a risk associated with high-impact activities or prolonged activity over a long period of time. A lot of pro athlete's bodies are pretty messed up by the end of their careers. Doctor Foxx posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... maybe he considers doing other things a more valuable use of his time. there is zero guarantee that exercising will increase your longevity. it can but that doesnt mean it will. be that as it may, what he has suggested about the body being like a battery is patently false and dangerously misguided exercise is one of the most important things for health Which is a somewhat overstated misconception. While a completely sedentary lifestyle is obviously bad, just regular movement can be enough to keep up health if you have an actually healthy diet. Exercise is mostly used to compensate for shitty lifestyle behaviors. That said, there are clearly some okay exercises like walking which won't wear parts of the body down too badly or expose you to unnecessary risk. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879916729] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Allisonata posted...</cite> <quote>Well, we'd be wrong to say that exercise has never killed someone... I guess.</quote> But is it right to say this? “Other than golf, he considers exercise misguided, arguing that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy.”</quote> He used a terrible analogy, but activity over time does wear the body down particularly where bones are concerned (which I learned after talking to a co-worker who broke a leg bone jogging). Granted, that's more a risk associated with high-impact activities or prolonged activity over a long period of time. A lot of pro athlete's bodies are pretty messed up by the end of their careers. <cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>maybe he considers doing other things a more valuable use of his time. there is zero guarantee that exercising will increase your longevity. it can but that doesnt mean it will.</quote> be that as it may, what he has suggested about the body being like a battery is patently false and dangerously misguided exercise is one of the most important things for health</quote> Which is a somewhat overstated misconception. While a completely sedentary lifestyle is obviously bad, just regular movement can be enough to keep up health if you have an actually healthy diet. Exercise is mostly used to compensate for shitty lifestyle behaviors. That said, there are clearly some okay exercises like walking which won't wear parts of the body down too badly or expose you to unnecessary risk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 05/27/17 4:56:18 PM #86:	Zeus posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Zeus posted... BlackScythe0 posted... If you think about it there are three great threats the government needs to handle. Natural disaster, disease, and war. Trump wants to cut funding from two of the three major concerns. Not really. The main function of government is protecting the borders -- which includes war -- because the borders define the country's boundaries and then maintaining a system of order (contract law, criminal law, etc). Everything else comes second. And historically disaster relief wasn't a federal function, that was handled by the states. Disease, when addressed by government was also handled at the state level. The feds weren't even directly involved with roads until the last century when highways went in. I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make here. Historically blood letting and pounding nails into peoples brains were accepted medical treatments. I'm not even sure what kind of argument you're trying to make there. First off, blood letting was debunked long before the US was started. Second, even if it was an approved medical process at the time, it still makes no sense in context. More importantly, you've fundamentally misrepresented the most important jobs of government to advance a false agenda. Troll_Police_ posted... im content to let the people who choose to live in areas that are prone to earthquakes pay the price instead of the rest of us. tbh, California is a pretty wealthy state. If they started charging Hollywood its fair share -- rather than let them get away with hokey accounting -- they could afford a lot of stuff. California gives more to the government then what it receives. Also doesn't hollywood pay taxes? I am actually not sure how it works lol Figured hollywood was run like any other business in california. Just curios, how exactly does hollywood not pay it's fair share? --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:879921311] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>If you think about it there are three great threats the government needs to handle. Natural disaster, disease, and war. Trump wants to cut funding from two of the three major concerns.</quote> Not really. The main function of government is protecting the borders -- which includes war -- because the borders define the country's boundaries and then maintaining a system of order (contract law, criminal law, etc). Everything else comes second. And historically disaster relief wasn't a federal function, that was handled by the states. Disease, when addressed by government was also handled at the state level. The feds weren't even directly involved with roads until the last century when highways went in.</quote> I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make here. Historically blood letting and pounding nails into peoples brains were accepted medical treatments.</quote> I'm not even sure what kind of argument you're trying to make there. First off, blood letting was debunked long before the US was started. Second, even if it was an approved medical process at the time, it still makes no sense in context. More importantly, you've fundamentally misrepresented the most important jobs of government to advance a false agenda. <cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>im content to let the people who choose to live in areas that are prone to earthquakes pay the price instead of the rest of us.</quote> tbh, California is a pretty wealthy state. If they started charging Hollywood its fair share -- rather than let them get away with hokey accounting -- they could afford a lot of stuff.</quote> California gives more to the government then what it receives. Also doesn't hollywood pay taxes? I am actually not sure how it works lol Figured hollywood was run like any other business in california. Just curios, how exactly does hollywood not pay it's fair share?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/17 8:53:00 PM #87:	yutterh posted... Also doesn't hollywood pay taxes? I am actually not sure how it works lol Figured hollywood was run like any other business in california. Just curios, how exactly does hollywood not pay it's fair share? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ Honestly, if California cracked down on the bullshit accounting practices used to screw the state out of taxes and creators out of money -- most screenwriters have to sue to get their money -- then it would have a tremendous amount of additional money to fund tons of earthquake equipment (among lots of other stuff) without taking a dime from the feds. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879932598] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Also doesn't hollywood pay taxes? I am actually not sure how it works lol Figured hollywood was run like any other business in california. Just curios, how exactly does hollywood not pay it's fair share?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ Honestly, if California cracked down on the bullshit accounting practices used to screw the state out of taxes and creators out of money -- most screenwriters have to sue to get their money -- then it would have a tremendous amount of additional money to fund tons of earthquake equipment (among lots of other stuff) without taking a dime from the feds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 05/27/17 10:22:46 PM #88:	Zeus posted... yutterh posted... Also doesn't hollywood pay taxes? I am actually not sure how it works lol Figured hollywood was run like any other business in california. Just curios, how exactly does hollywood not pay it's fair share? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ Honestly, if California cracked down on the bullshit accounting practices used to screw the state out of taxes and creators out of money -- most screenwriters have to sue to get their money -- then it would have a tremendous amount of additional money to fund tons of earthquake equipment (among lots of other stuff) without taking a dime from the feds. Wow, never knew that shit lol hollywood is crazy corrupt hahaha i knew it was but damn, it reached a level higher then i though possible lol Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right? --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:879936522] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Also doesn't hollywood pay taxes? I am actually not sure how it works lol Figured hollywood was run like any other business in california. Just curios, how exactly does hollywood not pay it's fair share?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ Honestly, if California cracked down on the bullshit accounting practices used to screw the state out of taxes and creators out of money -- most screenwriters have to sue to get their money -- then it would have a tremendous amount of additional money to fund tons of earthquake equipment (among lots of other stuff) without taking a dime from the feds.</quote> Wow, never knew that shit lol hollywood is crazy corrupt hahaha i knew it was but damn, it reached a level higher then i though possible lol Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/17 11:21:06 PM #89:	yutterh posted... Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right? But that's not really the issue here, but yes, that is the claim put out by WalletHub which was then carried by the Atlantic and others before becoming a talking point on tv. Of course, logically, you'd have to assume that the net would need to be higher than what they take because at least a few states need to contribute more than they take otherwise the deficit would look much worse and large states with wealthier populations seem the more likely to contribute --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879939074] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right?</quote> But that's not really the issue here, but yes, that is the claim put out by WalletHub which was then carried by the Atlantic and others before becoming a talking point on tv. Of course, logically, you'd have to assume that the net would need to be higher than what they take because at least a few states need to contribute more than they take otherwise the deficit would look much worse and large states with wealthier populations seem the more likely to contribute</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 05/27/17 11:30:11 PM #90:	Zeus posted... yutterh posted... Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right? But that's not really the issue here, but yes, that is the claim put out by WalletHub which was then carried by the Atlantic and others before becoming a talking point on tv. Of course, logically, you'd have to assume that the net would need to be higher than what they take because at least a few states need to contribute more than they take otherwise the deficit would look much worse and large states with wealthier populations seem the more likely to contribute My point was that what they receive is basically their tax break. But I get your point too. --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:879939469] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right?</quote> But that's not really the issue here, but yes, that is the claim put out by WalletHub which was then carried by the Atlantic and others before becoming a talking point on tv. Of course, logically, you'd have to assume that the net would need to be higher than what they take because at least a few states need to contribute more than they take otherwise the deficit would look much worse and large states with wealthier populations seem the more likely to contribute</quote> My point was that what they receive is basically their tax break. But I get your point too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/27/17 11:32:34 PM #91:	OneTimeBen posted... Sarcasthma posted... Yo @OneTimeBen, what country are you from? Iowa. This single post explains so much. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:879939555] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote>Yo @OneTimeBen, what country are you from?</quote> Iowa.</quote> This single post explains so much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/28/17 4:00:53 AM #92:	yutterh posted... Zeus posted... yutterh posted... Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right? But that's not really the issue here, but yes, that is the claim put out by WalletHub which was then carried by the Atlantic and others before becoming a talking point on tv. Of course, logically, you'd have to assume that the net would need to be higher than what they take because at least a few states need to contribute more than they take otherwise the deficit would look much worse and large states with wealthier populations seem the more likely to contribute My point was that what they receive is basically their tax break. But I get your point too. I just feel that it's a somewhat important nuance that, if taxes were working properly, the payouts would be higher (which would both further support the state and the fed). While California does pay in a good deal of federal taxes, there are certain parties within the state who aren't contributing (in much the same way that everybody on my street may pay more taxes than other streets but that wouldn't excuse me from not paying taxes personally by using creative loopholes). Of course, even if certain parties are tax evading, that doesn't necessarily mean that the state itself hurts for it -- since they might be using that money to create other jobs and vitalize the local economy -- although it almost always means that the feds are losing any advantage. And, on some level, it's obviously not the state's fault as a whole for citizens who refuse to properly participate (or participate at all, in the case of some write-downs) in their taxation system although the state is somewhat at fault for not going to greater measures to enforce it especially in the instance of a known problem. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879947815] in Trump's bu... [t:75389441]...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yutterh posted...</cite> <quote>Also you do know california pays more into federal then what it receives right?</quote> But that's not really the issue here, but yes, that is the claim put out by WalletHub which was then carried by the Atlantic and others before becoming a talking point on tv. Of course, logically, you'd have to assume that the net would need to be higher than what they take because at least a few states need to contribute more than they take otherwise the deficit would look much worse and large states with wealthier populations seem the more likely to contribute</quote> My point was that what they receive is basically their tax break. But I get your point too.</quote> I just feel that it's a somewhat important nuance that, if taxes were working properly, the payouts would be higher (which would both further support the state and the fed). While California does pay in a good deal of federal taxes, there are certain parties within the state who aren't contributing (in much the same way that everybody on my street may pay more taxes than other streets but that wouldn't excuse me from not paying taxes personally by using creative loopholes). Of course, even if certain parties are tax evading, that doesn't necessarily mean that the state itself hurts for it -- since they might be using that money to create other jobs and vitalize the local economy -- although it almost always means that the feds are losing any advantage. And, on some level, it's obviously not the state's fault as a whole for citizens who refuse to properly participate (or participate at all, in the case of some write-downs) in their taxation system although the state is somewhat at fault for not going to greater measures to enforce it especially in the instance of a known problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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